Jacque Fresco - Depression, Self Image - Sept. 5, 2011 (1/2)
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- Jacque discusses "what is depression?" and talks about elements of self-image and identification that produces low self-sufficiency. Covers how projections create disappointment, how "looking within" rarely works, and shows how specific reward/reinforcements often provide only palliative help. Discusses the importance of learning new things and gaining predictability when dealing with depression.
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Why did the world wait so long to recognize this man's genius?
Sammybizness He is not the only one really. One of a kind yes. But it is money root of all evil suppresses. Ad agencies count on another, voluntary ignorance. But pep are leaning more and faster. We could be doing things now to show unity, then the youth unite and silence the "their" World.
He isn't genius, he is enlightened
The world has yet to recognize. It's up to those who remain to carry the possibilities into the future.
@@Jerome3693 which is a form of genius in my view
@@Jerome3693it’s a part of what we understand as ‘Genius’
We need this man's message, knowledge and wisdom today, more than ever!
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@JC-zc1wr nop we aren't.
Time to read, not project 😉
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martin luther king jr shouldve teamed up with this guy
This is THE BEST explanation of Depression that I've been seeing on the internet. I always thought of it that way but could not explain it with such good words and examples. Good for you Jacque Fresco, you have put all the other psychologists I've seen to shame.
I love you Todd.
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I miss 😢 Mr J Fresco 😢 😞 a real guru of the 21st century 🙏
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Roxanne is still alive
He just described how to manage emotions, being depressed is an emotion, when you experience it you can choose to hold on to it or quickly discard it. Being able to manage your emotions properly is also a high form of spiritual consciousness. At that state of being you are wiser, you love unconditionally, you are compassionate, you show empathy.
This is what stoicism also describes, to hold your emotion in judgement and see why you felt that way and to act to not suppress it but validate and then solve it.. at least I think that’s how it be sometimes haha
This image pops in my mind when unwanted emotions arise, I can click my ticket and go for the ride or I can simply decide not to get on the ride and move forward. We attach to so much we aren’t even aware. Be here now, wishing us abundance.
what a beautiful human
He is definitely right for a lot of cases but for me I love who I am and I am depressed I live in the monetary system.
oh wait no actually I am also addicted to cannabis as a coping mechanism and that is my negative self image
looking for justice indeed, I had to learn how to accept the world the way it was, not how I wished it to be and continue to working to change it
Same. My depression has mostly been existential. Not personal. But I believe we possess the ability to change the world via small victories everyday that can snowball into something special but you have to have a strong defiant will to achieve this. And your vision for yourself and the world is a plant you have to water every single day
This man was about 95 years old here in 2011. Very well aged and sharp too, wow
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[ Such divine wisdom ]
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Innate and we all have access. 🤲🏼❤️
What a great man he was. We need that kind of man again.
Some people just have a way of taking the obvious perspective by articulating it into a practical and relatable way. Mr. Fresco has that gift.
this man,puts it across ,so simply...now I really understand my depression..thank you very much.
Thanks for your reply 🙂
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How do you get a self-image? By learning new things, by learning things that take you out of the old value system ♥️
Sorry, I am unsure if you are asking a question or if your comment was rhetoric? 🤔🤷🏽♂️
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@@TheVenusProjectGlobal it was rhetoric 🙂 just wanted to highlight the meaningful final words from the video that I hold in high regard ♥️
@Elis Kakit thanks for clarifying 🙂
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or you can learn that self image is a mental construct that you invested years of energy in it and that is why you defend it.
@@Anlonn yep
Thank you Mr.Fresco. I wish I could have met you.
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I'd like to see his dream, the venus project, come to life.
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@@JC-zc1wr reading is vital
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@J C take a day off
@J C the nwo is here, what would you prefer, totalitarian dictatorship or a free society
Saying, something is bad without defining what appears to be the problem suggests that you really have nothing decent to say and just be the nay sayer for low vibe ego purpose..🤷🏻♀️
He is lovely person
Thanks sir, I'd like to be a college student who does well and i'd even like to be a college professor like you, but that second thing I know is a faraway dream that takes many new things to learn and overcome. God bless
My man was strong but as cold as steel.
Almost everything he said was very helpful except no person can say if dogs think about death.
if a dog never saw someone die, then he doesn't think about death. but if he sees another being dying then thinking about death it's a big possibility.
They say its rough.
I learned how to fix the speakers on televisions from this clip. As someone who recently turned into an atheist, I realized how dumb it was to hit the TV, the sound goes on, Liquors back off and I get mad. So I did things logically. Looked at the tv, saw where I could unscrew stuff without destroying anything, looked up where the speaker was, looked at what wires went to what, took the old TV took the speakers out, be attached the wires to the original TV and the sound began to work.
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I feel so unhappy I have done for a very long time 😢 but I still laugh a few times a day and probably smile twice a week 😊 I feel highly stressed from my work as a chef I just hope if anything in life I get better life after death life is meant to be happy not for a few but for the many I was a happy kid and got taught by idiots
I've never heard of a happy chef ,why dont you try literally anything else and do something with your life instead of throwing in the towel and hoping for an after life
@@ottoflouer1750 I don’t know what else to think about nothing is interesting as once was I guess
@youngjezy23 Yes, many people feel the same 'trap' in the monetary slavery system.
You are not alone, it is very difficult to move off the track we get stuck on.
It seems that when it gets to the point where we ponder our existence, it is beneficial to try a change. If it isn't a change in career paths, at least a change in workplaces/environment/location.
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I'd like him to articulate on a person with their identify, but living in a situation in which very little of their physical needs are met and very little positive relationships with others. Would his emphasis on self identity still play the biggest part of rather or not a person is depressed?
Does anybody know what wristwatch he is wearing?
No sorry.
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How do you deal with anxiety like in sports performances what is your thinking about it
Fix the root cause, not the outcome.
Ie. Proactive system rather than the reactive system we have today
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@@TheVenusProjectGlobal and what do you guys think about addiction and how to get rid of like alcohol or any mobile or anything like type
Learning new things! Learning new things. Learning new things? Learning new things,
Ok
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i wish the earth had more people like him.
YOUR THE BEST! SPREAD THE WORD!
IF YOU DO NOTHING, NOTHING WILL HAPPEND
Seems like you're doing nothing too
whell, im spreading on internet, but isnt enought
INDEED
I feel better when I listen Jacque Fresco. You inspire me :-). THANKS
Best explanation of depression I've heard so far, it makes sense and so simple.
Mr Fresco you are an amazing human being such an inspiration I have seen many of your videos and have to say I'm hooked on your way of thinking, incredible mind brilliant! I'm struggling for words you are the man in my eyes!!
"Learning things that take you out the old value systems" love that!
He deserves at least a ph.d in psychology for this.
You don't need a phd in psychology in order to understand human behaviour.
Jacque, you're something else.
This guy is awesome
I think that the number of people who are diagnosed with clinical depression nowadays is way larger than the number of people who actually have messed up brain chemistry. Not to mention that you can have messed up brain chemistry because of the reasons Mr. Fresco pointed out and not some genetic flaw that caused mental disorder. That's what he's talking about: most of the "depressed" people are simply sad and miserable because they can't realize their true potential, because they have unrealistic expectations and because they pursue things that they truly don't need, in other words they are not living their lives for themselves.
Another problem is that so many people nowadays like to justify their inability to change their lives(study more, exercise more, eat healthy or whatever, anything) by saying that this is who they are and they simply can't change it, that it's all some health problems or unfortunate circumstances that they have no control over. Most of the time it's total bullshit, and all they are doing is desperately looking for excuse not do anything, because the truth is that humans are naturally extremely lazy(obviously because it's an evolutionary advantage), craven, indecisive and whatnot, but we don't want to admit it because it will lower our self-esteem so we come up with all sorts of theories some of which are very elaborate to justify our behavior and never dare to admit the simple truth even to ourselves preferring to live in the captivity of illusions. And that's what Mr. Fresco's philosophy is all about: snap out of it, live in the reality not in your imaginary world and then maybe, just maybe things will change. Or you can keep getting high on anti-depressants, tranquilizer, booze, food, postmodernist philosophy or whatever other drugs you're taking and continue to waste your life.
I agree I hope he lives forever id love to meet Him
I wish i could follow this guy around all day and learn how to be this awesome and transform the world around me into a place worth living
***** i think you're good that way! i've been around him most days of the last 5 yrs except when they've traveled out of town. Tho' he's 98, i honestly say that there's nobody who tries harder to do their gig than he does. He's absorbed by the mission he's on and his drive to carry out what he can is both enlightening and heartbreaking; because we see what we're up against as well. he said at a session the other day "if i kick the bucket tomorrow I'll have no regrets, because i know i've done all that i can do"...and he's right! (whatever "right" means, ha.) do what you can to meet him in person while he's still with us...
Is he hiring for disciples? Lol
I've suffered from depression for years! Listening to you has been good!
Hope you have a great life, ending up running this planet earth! THANK YOU!!!
I love his tone. I love how clear he explains things. Jacque thank you for being someone worthy enough to consider a role model. I look up to this man
"When you speak, don't speak for approval, speak to inform. If you found a fire you'd gladly rush into a hall with a thousand people and tell them all to leave and not feel anything, because what you're saying is essential.". That is fantastic advice. I'm very glad to have watched this, just for that lesson. I'll remember that,
My girlfriend and I are planning to visit Fresco soon. We are from SF Bay area. Please stay well I really am eagered to meet you. I wish he was my DAD!
no thanks, I'll pass...
***** please do, thank you...
Hi man! Did u visit him?
Mountain Lion I'm also from Bay Area. Good to know there are people here that explore the Venus Project. I should visit Fresco as well.
This is one of wisest things I have heard in a long, long time
Mindblown, i cant quit smoking because smoking is my identitiy and i feel empty without it... that makes so much sense speaking of addictions.
My friends havent been able to quit smoking weed or drinking or smoking cigarettes etc because they have nothing else. I was able to quite everything cold turkey and not become depressed because I have HEAPS of other things im interested in. I play 6 instruments and I am interested in technology and basically all the topics Jacque covers haha you need to replace the addiction with someone of value, no matter what it is :)
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Yes my friend any bad habits you have to replace with something else. I'm glad to see more and more people quit smoking.
wow..I wish everyday who's suffering from depression get a chance to see this. and the cue is to 'give them something to do, to work towards a direction, and to learn new things'..I'll remember this.
For 95 this guy looks like he is 70, I am glad to see Jacque still alive and as coherent as he ever was.
Peter Joseph needs to watch this everyday to get understanding of this simple important message, It even took me several times of watching to get it. One of my favorite videos. The venus project is a humble simple and fun approach for obtaining sustainable life on this planet. This is the true meaning of food for thought. And thank you Roxanne for being the extension of this mans ideas.
I've been thinking to myself for a long time, on how I would like to change the world. I told others about this & was told that You cannot change the world, its always going to be a bad world. I got depressed I got quiet I got skinny I got scared. I started learning about the bad things in the world, & told myself I can't do anything but sit back & watch because my efforts would be wasted. I might not change the world, but I can change myself, and inform others on what I thinks right. Peace In.
Probably one of the most insightful and intelligent men I have ever listened to.
Jacque fresco , you have an outstanding mind ,, can we start now? I have invented machines ,but have always been to afraid to put them out there, as I know what happens in todays control system,, that is depressing to me, but not the creative process , through action on said creativity(art , science, inventions) brings me out of this state...
awful pictures. :s
anything12321 ?
Epic .... we need more of Jacques Fresco in this world...
I just hope this genius and great human being continues to live among us for the years to come.He is one of the few people of this era that can help humanity work towards revolution like the world has never seen before.Sadly to say I have given up on humanity as a whole but there are some people,characters that are intelligent human beings...but it is hard.
Long Live Jacque Fresco.Bow to the ground.
BTW Isn't amazing how blind and asleep the world is?
This has really helped me in my life. I have the answer to depression!! I am no longer depressed because now!! I know how to fight it. Get this guy to answer more of life's questions, PLease.
I am impressed by any of those TH-cam videos into Jasque Fresco talks. Every single one of them, say again Every. Single. One of them have made me say wow to myself. I always was been caught off gaurd in his talks, there was always something i didn't really think about. This man is so inspiring, there are no words that can describe it better....
Jacque is definitely one of the I would say about twenty people that have influenced me the most so far in my life.
I'm ridiculously grateful that we all got to experience the words of wisdom, from this utmost remarkable man. :)
Jacque has a unparalleled ability to objectively look at the world in ways that I think very few people have the tools to do.
Thanks for all your hard work, Jacque and Roxanne.
And thanks for uploading these incredibly enlightening discussions, interviews and lectures.
The distance between our expectations or assumptions about the way we think things "ought" to be and the way they are is what causes depression... true... and then our ability or inability to effect change compounds it. So alleviating depression requires a perceptual shift. Seeing things as how they could be, as opposed to how they "ought" to be. And then supporting those possibilities through choices that offer us a sense of power or "self." Thank you, Jacque. For all you do.
Fresco is one of the smartest guys in the world. If we followed his lead, the world would be a much better place!
I was just diagnosed with depression.
I didn't accept their idea to put me on anti-depressants though, I knew there was another answer.
I knew that the answer lies on what causes that cycle to begin.
Jacque brought more light. thank you!
btw I really want to visit and go on the tour!
Look guys, I just wanna point out before you watch the video - Jacque is more talking about "values-related depression" than biochemical depression. So before somebody starts about genetics, you should first know that he talk about depression when you are biochemically stable, meaning your neurotransmitters are intact, levels of monoamines and serotonin are normal and you don't suffer from terminal or very unpleasant illness. That would save a lot of heart ache. Yes, SSRIs and other antidepressants work - by altering your messed up brain chemistry.... but psychiatrist or psychologist don't necessarily deal with what to do when you're not depressed anymore (biochemically)...they don't always give you the right method (nor does a priest)... that's what Jacque is trying to tell (at least that's how I understood). Any reply?
Filip Valábik sounds right
Thank for pointing this out! Too often when depression is being discussed, there's no clarification on how the depression is based. Being depressed because of a biochemical imbalance is much different from being depressed because of having a bad day.
I think you misunderstand what the biochemical model of depression is. It doesn’t describe an established cause of depression - it may be a consequence of depression. Whereas, what Jacque is describing in this video is how people can end up in depressive states by virtue of their mindset or behaviour… this is the role of the psychologist (a good one) to establish. Once found, their client can work on this.
Medication mostly treats the cause of symptoms (the imbalance) but the root cause of symptoms is, in most cases, established in psychology. Medication has to be paired with psychology input. Medication has *limited* efficiency on its own.
I hope that makes sense.
The things he is talking about in this video, makes more sense than all the stuff I've read and heard during all these years. I would have been thankful if I heard this knowledge from my therapist, and actually got some help for a change... Only during the end of the last year I realized some of these things myself, thought in a much smaller scale. It's really amazing how clearly he can see all things, it's really like he was some kind of an visionaire.
Very vice man. Innocent and vice. That are the qualities we must develop in ourselves - being vice and innocent makes us mature. I send Jacque my love and respect. He is one of the seldom people in this world who are not thinking about themselvem egoistically but about the future of mother Earth.
So brilliant in explanation about depression as the negated side of self image and perceived self esteem, and self validation ; all aspects relating to self/other beliefs, self/other emotions. The sociial values about" self' & "other" internally directed.
so clear, rational and so calm... He is enlightened
It is so true we don't know what the future can bring. We all need to do our jobs now and promote these types of things. We need to spread this throughout the internet and make the world change, type it everywhere on the internet facebook, twitter, blogs etc. make the world change and do your part. We all need to stand together.
It's attachment, whether it's to a object or a feeling or something else.
oh yeah, this guy gets it
Great Jacque Fresco! We must all of us have to continue what his started with VENUS PROJECT!
This whole self image just describe the depression that is found in my CULTURE... mind blown
I needed this Fresco
What a wise man.
Thank you Jacque Fresco ❤️
Amazing as always...
Fresco you are the man, We need all of your material to be spread like the a virus,so we can infect everyone with these ideas, Saludos desde Mexico
i have depression for about year and insomnia,a lot of Jacque's videos makes sense but it's difficult get forward ...........THANK YOU JACQUE ,i will try
thanks for all of your kind comments, am passing along to Jacque. i think it helps him to see what works/helps
Yes, mr Fresco, I understand that.
+Daniel • I think he keeps asking this questions coz he has low expectations for people's intelligence and ability to comprehend what he's saying, this way he never get's disappointed and depressed. As he often points out: wrong, unjustified expectations is one of the main causes for the misery in human's lives.
They have got it 100% right. Music to my ears
Reading this that you wrote makes me smile.
Jacque's more apt to suggest sociology over psychology, and investigate behaviorism independently. Someone came to a session here and was head of a department that emphasized behaviorism and told of interesting experiments they were doing, wish i could recall who it was. Anyways, Jacque maintains that a widespread acceptance of behaviorism would have negative impact upon the system and so there isn't much support from academia which requires funding to operate in price system.
I've learned a lot from Jacque ! and not just form this video. Thank you :)
I'm depressed because I hate humanity, for all the horrible things it has done and is currently doing, and just how deeply screwed up everything really is when you examine it closely.
Everywhere I look, I just see lies and corruption.
The thought of that a resource-based economy could very well become reality in the future is one of the few things keeping me together.
what a great man and great mind,
Jimbobasaur, making a crisp distinction between physical and mental things for stuff like depression IS part of the archaic way. Been a long history of trying to define depression into a corner where there's a simple, common-sense solution, and then when a person who's got it bad (with, say, 80% biochemistry and 20% behavior/self-image) doesn't handle things, they're looked at as the perpetrators more than as the victims and things get cavalier and dismissive. Similar dynamic with many things.
Hi admin. Please let Jacque know that his lectures and session I've seen help me overcome my depression caused mainly by my opiod addiction. Instead of taking a pill I listen to him and get tremendously boosted. Please just tell him this. Filip from Slovakia
You are talking about depression, I understand what it is and what it feels like. It is nothing but chemical reactions, seriously, if you wanted, you can control it. The day I learned this, it was gone. Do most people really have no control over emotions, sucks for them. The best part is, if you do have control over it, you can make the good emotions last longer.
Jacque Fresco, Born March 13, 1916 (age 99) holy cow this guy will be 100 years old in March, God Bless him, Hope I make it to at least 85...
Do you hear what he is saying? His mind is crystal clear. You can follow every turn of the argument. I know people in their 40-s who can barely formulate straightforward thought in less than a minute, this guy is older than America's democracy and in 15 minutes he nailed an important subject, proposed decent solution and still tell bunch of educating stories on other subjects. Damn he's underrated in this society. And forget about Venus Project itself, at least the dude who is talking for like a hundred years on the same subject, about things he understood and learned during his life, all the way from debating a Klan guy on moral issues to designing its own city and offering his experience for us to build a butter place to live, is worth some attention...
it is so good to hear those thoughts come in to words one can grashp
going to send these videos to my psychology teacher.
This guy is my role model. I'll try to be as brilliant as he is. But it's okay if I don't succeed, the journey towards there will be great.
I loved that so easy to understand, wow sir you are awesome
Jacque needs to have his own show on PBS, A&E, Discovery Channel, or whatever. Rather, *we* need to have him on TV.
learn't so much from jacque, would love to meet him one day soon i hope
I recommend practicing sahaja yoga for all of those who feel depressed. It hepled me to enjoy the life fully.
you had me at "what you get is what you get"...
I would explain Jacque's lack of self-image as a lack of perception of our own self, the one providing our learning capacities, our "speaking-thinking being".
This self is also considered our spirit, and don't need identification in order to be. It identifies with everything, yet is free and independent of our earthly condition, but super-conscious.Losing sight of this being means losing sight of our free capabilities, our free attention and energies.
G.Kuhlewind thought concentration !!!
i feel much more inform and educated
Thank you.
Of course! but never ever expect your procedure to succeed, it will fail almost always, but anything is always worth trying in this capacity. Just remember, everyone is different and success is never guarunteed.
He speaks complete truth. Some of the most depressed-prone people I find out there are activists. As they are identified with the cause, have expectations and therefore lack a sense of real self. This is why they get aggressive when people don't agree with them!!
@teewilson333 If you overcame all the rest, I'm sure you can overcome the anxiety as well. I hope you get there.
Ever since I got Jacque's full DVD lecture set it has never left my dvd player....he provides thought food for SOOOO many topics. Thanx Jacque