Jacque Fresco - Free Will - Nov. 2, 2010

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  • A portion of Fresco lecture on free will, from 2010-11 Lecture Series 3.
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  • @CristianKirk
    @CristianKirk 13 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you Jacque for saving my life...

  • @6XstringXsamurai
    @6XstringXsamurai 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My wife and I were watching a documentary on body modification, and this guy had little magnets implanted in his fingertips and forearms and other parts of his body. Over time he has developed a 6th sense of being able to feel magnetic fields and frequencies. His body has begun to tune in to this new sensory connection. Pretty interesting.

  • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
    @TheVenusProjectGlobal  13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @GCGiorn influence is a force.

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like, share, subscribe. It really helps the message get out there‚ (Peter tvp volunteer)

    • @mebhisntatownie
      @mebhisntatownie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheVenusProjectGlobal would jesus christ agree with the venus project

  • @philipz308
    @philipz308 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We call for a straightforward approach to the redesign of a culture, in which the age-old inadequacies of war, poverty, hunger, debt, environmental degradation and unnecessary human suffering are viewed not only as avoidable, but totally unacceptable.
    The Venus Project is a veritable blueprint for the genesis of a new world civilization, one that is based on human concern and environmental reclamation. One fundamental premise is that we work towards having all of the Earth’s resources as the common heritage of all the world’s people. Anything less will simply result in a continuation of the same catalog of problems inherent in the present system.

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like, share, subscribe. It really helps the message get out there‚ (Peter tvp volunteer)

  • @njhbeats
    @njhbeats 13 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks Jacque, you make it so easy to understand

  • @star-stuff
    @star-stuff ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That's extremely enlightening! Glad I watched it.

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing 🙂
      Like, share, subscribe. It really helps the message get out there‚ (Peter tvp volunteer)

  • @hriscucristianioan9421
    @hriscucristianioan9421 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know that free will Doesn't Exist ... is just a number of information given to us to Process it then give results , I wished to meet you in this life ... but the meeting is not lost , good life to all 🙃

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing
      Like, share, subscribe. It really helps the message get out there‚ (Peter tvp volunteer)

    • @hriscucristianioan9421
      @hriscucristianioan9421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheVenusProjectGlobal my way of sharing this thoughts are straight to the individual ... it is harder than talks to masses ... but how do we know the easier way until we not practice or try it the hard way ... polarity law and so on.

    • @hriscucristianioan9421
      @hriscucristianioan9421 ปีที่แล้ว

      Polarity law is just one of them (all 7) ... when someone know how to manoeuvre them , then that project or whatever the individual do in his life will succeed faster than others ... I barely manoeuvre two of them , understanding the process and so on ... human beings are pretty limited in developing Entities because of missing information , lot to say but I will resume here , succes in your project.

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hriscucristianioan9421 thanks for your reply. I am not familiar with what you mean by 'polarity law'
      (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

    • @justgeorge2567
      @justgeorge2567 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's talking about the Seven Natural Laws through which everyone and everything is governed. They are the laws of : Attraction, Polarity, Rhythm, Relativity, Cause and Effect, Gender/Gustation and Perpetual Transmutation of Energy.

  • @GeorgeTVP
    @GeorgeTVP 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @MrIzzy In other words, the decision to protect yourself by shooting someone, even if the conflict is a minor one, was made one someone bullied you or called you names. A person who was never bullied or was raised in an environment where conflicts were resolved by discussion will find it really difficult to pull out a gun and shoot someone in the face. Our society finds violence entertaining and normal..and it is to them. But what kind of society do people wish to live in. People reflect culture

  • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
    @TheVenusProjectGlobal  13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @GCGiorn not true, every step you take is forced by your background. It's never a choice. Fresco had a particular set of circumstances that drove him toward physical sciences, engineering, human behavior, etc.

  • @chadinterrupted
    @chadinterrupted 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @GCGiorn Humans react to stimuli. If their sensors sense pain, they try something new until it feels good. Overtime humans learn new things and pass these experiences down to the new generations who continually have a head start as generations continue. Whatever Jacque was exposed to lead him to where he is today. The reason I support TVP even if it likely won't benefit me in my lifetime is because I KNOW that it can, but I also know it never will if I join the ignorance club and turn away.

    • @asobu000
      @asobu000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey are you alive?

  • @chadinterrupted
    @chadinterrupted 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @GCGiorn I can only speak for myself but I'm in a very similar situation Fresco was in maybe when he was my age so I think I can answer your questions about why he "chose" to seek knowledge. The reason I follow in this same path is through pleasure. I want to live in an environment that is easy to survive in because it is more pleasurable than living in a cave somewhere. I was exposed to things that helped me realize the power of the scientific method, therefor I follow it.

  • @enlighteneveryone
    @enlighteneveryone 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @GeorgeTVP Yeah. it's very important to have his more influential videos be at the front. It allows people to feel more attracted to the project. Most of the volume seems to be on TH-cam. And we all know about TH-cam... people will watch, and forget (it's like a natural thing + experiences of personal life). But with people directly going to the website, they get the same vibe but probably more because they're actually at the site they long heard about.

  • @GeorgeTVP
    @GeorgeTVP 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was just what I needed. I had my professor tell me that there is a difference between a psychopath and nazi soldier who murders jews. He said a nazi murderer is due to their moral values and a psychopath "there's a medical definition". He said the same thing when I said Dick Cheney was a psychopath.

  • @andrewlilley3660
    @andrewlilley3660 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think this man was a true asset to mankind, however, I find his simplistic ideas that we are a product solely of our environment incomprehensible, we are not, these circumstances may have a profound influence on how we turn out, but to think that if only everyone had the right start in life there would be no crimes committed is ludicrous, human beings are far more complex than that!
    We would always have the psychopath, for instance, these people are entirely uninfluenced by their environment or upbringing, and these types would be wolves among sheep in Fresco's society, and that's just one example of why his utopian ideas would never work!

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you saying psychopaths are born as baby psychopaths?
      (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

    • @andrewlilley3660
      @andrewlilley3660 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheVenusProjectGlobal Yes!

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewlilley3660 What is the data/evidence/proof for those claims?
      (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

    • @andrewlilley3660
      @andrewlilley3660 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheVenusProjectGlobal I can't provide proof, but neither can you provide proof to the contrary, thanks.

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andrewlilley3660
      scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=babies+born+evil&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1682020584803&u=%23p%3DpkwrGW9XNMsJ
      www.jstor.org/stable/asianeth.75.2.397
      (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

  • @SorenK1987
    @SorenK1987 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get that our choices are determined by our environment, but what determines the environment in-itself?

  • @GeorgeTVP
    @GeorgeTVP 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joel, could you recommend the web developer of the Venus Project website to have these videos in the front page? I think some people don't know about these videos on youtube.

  • @necridos
    @necridos 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @osheaad Then listen to his public lectures outside the VP. He encourages people to ask him questions, and if they don't understand his logic he encourages people to question him further. "Each person chooses in the likeness of his ego" Jacque agrees, and he also explains how this ego is developed, and how each choice is made off the logic developed by this ego.

  • @gt42636
    @gt42636 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's a difference between ''a force'' and ''being forced''.

    • @mitkoogrozev
      @mitkoogrozev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colloquially , yes. People use the terms as if there is a difference. But the difference they suggest isn't there.
      Usually they say that you are ''being forced" only when you do things you don't like, or under the motivation of threat. Like for example, if I tell you to eat some food you hate eating, while holding a gun to your head. Generally speaking people would say that what they are doing is "against their will'' or ''being forced'' in this case. But if there is no gun, and you are just hungry somewhere at a place you are most happy in, like lets say your home, and your favorite food is present, when you eat that, people would say it's because they freely chose to.
      But you see, causally in both cases there are physical forces manipulating your behavior one way or another. You have been taught to like certain foods based in the culture you grew up in, and then the presence of stomach pain causes you to move to the fridge. You have been also taught to respond to the hunger by moving to the fridge because of past conditioning as well. You've been taught that a fridge is a place where consistently you will find food. And then after you open the fridge, your favorite food has particular shape, color , dimension etc. You've been taught to visually discriminate how your favorite food looks. The reflected light from your favorite food hits your retina, which forces signals up to your brain, which causes your arms to move in the direction of the food to grab it etc.
      See what I mean? This is part of what Jacque is talking about in this video to the degree that I understand it.

  • @timonsanchez3347
    @timonsanchez3347 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many do we need to follow the examples of TVP and what subjects do we need to study to make it possible? don't wanna wait no more, he died years ago now, he turns in his grave we didnt do anything yet with this.. how can we watch this and continue talk? not do? what is the DO, and what to do?

  • @lIIIIlllllIIIllI
    @lIIIIlllllIIIllI 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Por favor, seria alguien tan amable de subtitularlo al castellano?:)

  • @MrIzzyDizzy
    @MrIzzyDizzy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    that different parts of the brain are activated which show what your choice will be when asked to press a cople of buttons randomly = push a button when you make adecision then tough then touch the button you have decided on - the ultimate decision was determined several seconds before you push the i have decided button - even when people upon finging this out try and fool it - i e change thier decsion at the last moment - the ultimate decision is still refected seconds before -

  • @enlighteneveryone
    @enlighteneveryone 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @enlighteneveryone also, IE: in 9:20 when he mentions yellow spots: actually can enlightn ppl directly to racism. Not all (x) are what the person you previously had bad experiences from. It leads to defensive stereotyping, and can later transform into offenve stereotyping. IE:would be many minority communities, who were ever oppressed and react twenty years later (children of the oppressed and living in mostly poverty for few more generations). He speaks in volumes, which can sound like rambling

  • @isaacbarratt854
    @isaacbarratt854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are flaws to your theory
    It was from our capacity to find new uses for emotions of great utility that the notion of free will was extrapolated
    Furthermore, there exists an impulse to explain: but whether or not we explain in favour of or against something is subject to valuation
    With regards to belief multiple truths can exist: it is painful to care it is also painful not to care, which should you believe? It is true that i both love my mum and hate my mum, both are true, which should i believe
    Seemingly it makes rational sense to believe in whatever thing provides the greatest advantage, it makes logical sense to believe in whatever gives you pleasure
    As demonstrated: when creating meaning or prioritising truths there is choice involved
    Let us assume that it is too painful to believe in the thing that gives me pleasure, thereby i choose to believe the thing that makes me miserable, only now may we doubt our capacity for free will, which seems to be mediated by a capacity to endure emotional resistance when encountered: eg, our capacity to endure places upon us limitations
    Let us also consider morality: is it self imposed, why are we altruistically so myserable, by choice? Morality would rob us of this notion, morality is adherance to a rule
    But at any time we may change the explanations and rules we live by that seemingly placed limitations upon our horizon as individuals and as a species
    A strength of will is required to endure harsh truths: not all people have the strength of will and are thereby not at liberty to act to their own advantage or believe the things that bring us pleasure

    • @isaacbarratt854
      @isaacbarratt854 ปีที่แล้ว

      If an impulse to explain and create meaning exists why does not everybody create explanations that bring them pleasure: why the joy, glee and vexations of the artist

    • @isaacbarratt854
      @isaacbarratt854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exaustion mean that the will is lacking
      Frustration means that the will was resisted

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you please put the flaws in the summarised number form so we can respond efficiently?
      Ie. 1,2,3 etc
      (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

    • @DreGotHandz
      @DreGotHandz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whenever someone responds using fancy language and long windedness, its just a bunch of B.S

    • @isaacbarratt854
      @isaacbarratt854 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DreGotHandz did you actually read it or are you just making an assumption

  • @MrIzzyDizzy
    @MrIzzyDizzy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont deny the values and operant conditioning are controling factors in our behavior - i only point out that choices that are irelevant to any values or conditoning are registered in different parts of the brain before you acknowledge you have nade them - these are lad tested results - i got them second hand though -so i wil try and find the source experiments for you

  • @necridos
    @necridos 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @6XstringXsamurai What documentary is this? This sounds cool

  • @Ramiromasters
    @Ramiromasters 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @bluntpunk83 As humans we enjoy multiple systems but still that does not count as free will.
    If you chose not to avoid yellow, then its obvious that your conditioning to suppress that feeling was bigger than the one from avoiding him.
    Think about this, guy from a generation of doctors about to graduate, last day he quits and become a car salesman, just to prove he has free will, would that be proof of free will? or was he a slave of his emotions to prove his point?

  • @TheDethBringer666
    @TheDethBringer666 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've put a magnet against the side of my head before and I could feel the slight magnetic pull on the metals within my head. Just something random I remembered, not important.

  • @MrIzzyDizzy
    @MrIzzyDizzy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think enviromental conditioning and operant conditioning plays a large role in our values and behaviors this can be overcome with reasoning if you are educated enough we are no more than what we have learned and often less - however the lack of freewill is more fundamental - it ours inability to freely choose even among things that are not affected by values - like red ball or blue ball - our actions are electro chemical response - until those are self directed we cant choose -test are showing

  • @timonsanchez3347
    @timonsanchez3347 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do i reference to this ? as in an essay ?

  • @MrIzzyDizzy
    @MrIzzyDizzy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MrIzzyDizzy its a variant of libets experiment im discussing - as far as the example you site - it would reflect a value you have about human life

  • @Herbarius
    @Herbarius 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @heymodi if you had added "I am a" in front of that, you would have created a (linguistic) paradox.

  • @MrIzzyDizzy
    @MrIzzyDizzy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @GeorgeTVP watch?v=N6S9OidmNZM - is a video on a similar experiment - its finding were six seconds prior to your decison it is reflected in your brain - ie different areas are lighting up which show what your decision will be

  • @bluntpunk83
    @bluntpunk83 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    humans have some sort of manual override mechanism. to use JFs example, you could choose to not avoid the yellow spotted person. you cannot chooss the set of variables presented to you but you can choose from the set. your gut reaction as to what choice to make is of course dictated by environmental factors, however humans have the free will to go against instinct.

  • @laitela01
    @laitela01 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @michael0001able Or, two people were influenced by dislike button.

  • @MrIzzyDizzy
    @MrIzzyDizzy 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @GeorgeTVP sorry i responded without directing it at you - its the response just below this 1

  • @hybrid212
    @hybrid212 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @AshRNand he's 95, he'll turn 96 in march.

  • @bluntpunk83
    @bluntpunk83 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Ramiromasters id say thats a case foro free will

  • @L6FT
    @L6FT หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was a long winded way of saying, free will is not really a free choice, as we are conditioned and limited by our circumstances.

  • @ZaGoudou
    @ZaGoudou ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is that an onion on Jacque's belt I see? 🤟😁❤

    • @ZaGoudou
      @ZaGoudou ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously though. I've been a fan of him and his ideas as well as Roxanne and TVP in general ever since I first learned about them years ago. I definitely recommend visiting Venus and taking the tour!

  • @GeorgeTVP
    @GeorgeTVP 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MrIzzyDizzy The ultimate decision was not made seconds before. Everything you know and experience adds up to that point of your decision making system. If you were bullied as child and you learned by films, comic books or books in general that you can protect yourself if you learned how to fight then later you decided to use guns to protect yourself. When you confront a person physically the decision to pull out a gun and shoot someone is much easier to do because of your background.

  • @enlighteneveryone
    @enlighteneveryone 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @temporos lol I can tell you lost track to what he's saying. It happens kind of, and he also a lot of times say it's best to learn by asking them to repeat. Not speaking to you offensively. Everyone have different periods of learning or span of attention on certain things not of their original or natural interest (Ithink Socrates says this also). I had the same experience with a some speeches, but we can re-watch them all. After a second watch and other vids, you'll find enlightenment my friend.

  • @blackpanther6389
    @blackpanther6389 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone ask him about the ball thing and the cliff. He said he had theories on that, I'm really interested in what those theories are. Imagine this mans brain talkin about some shit like that lol!

  • @ThatIsWhatYouGet
    @ThatIsWhatYouGet 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't fully agree with this. I think the environment affects you specially when you don't know about other environments. I said no all over my life to thousands of things about the environment I was raised in, things my parents told me, just many things. I think somehow, If you are awake, you can feel and think what you want and what you don't want about the environment you are living in. So I guess knowing about different environments is what really gives you the freedom to chose.

  • @kzabost
    @kzabost 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh... I must to learn english more.

    • @asobu000
      @asobu000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey you gone?

  • @jhigh107
    @jhigh107 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Be cool if they can get Jacque to guest star on the Big Bang Theory

  • @fitzerg
    @fitzerg 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:04 About Morality

    • @93krstn
      @93krstn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favorite part, you can change your lifelong perspective listening to Fresco.

  • @ThatIsWhatYouGet
    @ThatIsWhatYouGet 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    And maybe those different environments don't need to be real, maybe through questioning everything you can realize other environments are possible. So this is a weird subject.

  • @enlighteneveryone
    @enlighteneveryone 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Near 9:20 can remove racism.

  • @7shukur
    @7shukur ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is no one challenging him?

    • @TheVenusProjectGlobal
      @TheVenusProjectGlobal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These ideas/proposals are challenged daily. I observe it frequently through all social media platforms
      (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

    • @Superlongevityinstitute
      @Superlongevityinstitute 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SHOW ME YOUR LIBRARY

  • @BLooDCoMPleX
    @BLooDCoMPleX 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good lesson but too disorganized when compared to his others.

  • @mattheffernan4854
    @mattheffernan4854 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    None of this can account for the belief in Jesus Christ. Jesus teaches us to reject the world to abstain, to forgive, to love thy neighbor like thy self... Christ Is LORD

  • @6XstringXsamurai
    @6XstringXsamurai 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @necridos It's just called "Modify" It's on Netflix streaming. It's mostly about tattooing and body piercing but it shows some really brutal breast implant surgeries and other stuff. It definitely doesn't hold back. Another forewarning - there's a lot of dicks in it! haha, as in pierced, split, tattooed, and mutilated wieners. I'm not sure why but yeah...tons of dicks. lol

  • @TheMidwestsk8ter
    @TheMidwestsk8ter 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DaveTheRave234 i already did lol

  • @michael0001able
    @michael0001able 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    two people were influenced by their environment to click the dislike button :-]

  • @WayneWilberforce
    @WayneWilberforce หลายเดือนก่อน

    BORING

  • @salvadorvalladolid2076
    @salvadorvalladolid2076 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He seems possessed and robotic.