In Nero: Black Girls in Rome, Portraits and Narratives
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- What's it like to be a Black Girl in Rome?
Watch the video to find out the answer to that question for some.
In Nero: Black Girls in Rome is a creative series curated by Dr. Tamara Pizzoli
which seeks to appropriately highlight and share the narratives of Black women in the eternal city
through a variety of artistic mediums.
The first is a photography project & short film made in collaboration with visual artist Sara Shamsavari and videographer James Maiki.
Coming soon:
In Nero: Black Girls in Rome, the web series
In Nero: Fairytales and Histories Reimagined and Retold, an art exhibition at Fox Gallery featuring the work of master Italian painter Elena Tommasi Ferroni and curated by Tamara Pizzoli on November 7, 2015.
Please like our page and share if you find the work to be meaningful.
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Really #excited to #curate & enjoy this #exhibition in #Rome at Fox Gallery featuring the amazing work of master #artist Elena Tommasi Ferroni and a collection of #Black #fairytale characters and historical figures- #InNero: Fairytales & Histories Reimagined and Retold. November 7 at 7:30. This one is #Ethiopian Aida. #art #Italy #blackgirlmagic #blackgirlscurate #multicultural #stories #thinkoutsidethebox
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This is one of the best videos I've seen of Black women from America living in Italy. I loved it! Keep up the good work ladies! For the Black women born and raised outside of the United States living in Italy you should make a video from your perspective, that way we will know your experiences as well.
god I'm so tired of my people seeking acceptance from other's it's ridiculous
Me too it's embrassing
I agree Laverle after watching this video, to me it appears they are longing for acceptance. It is sad when are we going to get over it. They had to travel this far to see if they would be accepted by the Romans. Unbelievable.
kim tenner isn't it,its embarrassing the level of sef hate some of us have for each other
Not only that, these women admitted to accepting racism as long as they are treated as a novelty by a certain number of people. I have a question I'm not sure can be answered. Is this behavior mostly exhibited by women? Do women have a greater need to be accepted than men? Wanting to be accepted or liked is a human trait. But do women have more of this trait than men. As I mentioned in an earlier post, sex has a lot to do with these women or any other woman(gay black men included) being accepted by a society. Again, I'm happy these women have found happiness.
Nah, as the producer and creator of the series, I can say first hand that is NOT why i moved to rome. I moved to Rome at 25 years old after having just finished my Doctorate degree and to have a life adventure and get over a broken heart. Ended up finding countless versions of myself and would encourage anyone who hasn't in the states to go on ahead and cross the Atlantic...for a visit or permanently. There are treasures to be found.
I loved watching this I hope you continue to film these all over the world. I have been to Rome twice and other parts of Italy. I enjoyed my experience there and often wondered what it would be like to live there. Thanks for sharing this!
+L Middleton Thank you!
Don't tell me Italians or anything other Europeans "love Black people" when our history and interaction with them everyday says otherwise. How can Italians love Black women when they threw bananas and called the Black woman that was elected to their government every racist name in book.
XXI LEGIO RAPAX Learn proper English before you try to come at me and nobody can drive anyone to be racist. Get off your balls? Please...I am African....I am a Queen you wouldn't exist without me.
Yeah because every Italian is a Lega Nord party supporter/politician (the most racist/separatist italian political party, with the least votes) Nice argument you got there. 0/10
Just FYI, the party got sued and lost the cause.
sedavenp you can tell the black women in this video worship wight men...
speak for your ugly self i am 100 pct italian and i love black women
Thank you for sharing this with us.. I truly enjoyed this video.
I really enjoyed this video! I like the statement, we have to create our own narrative. I feel and also my Mom taught me, that they are no better than we are. Thanks for showing the world how beautiful Black Woman are. Black Woman have many, many different shades of color. We also age less. Thank God. We are beautifully and wonderfully made.
As nice as this video is, it's a very narrow view of what it's like to be a 'black girl' in Rome. I think a disclaimer should be written here to say what it's like to be black AMERICAN or ex-pat black in Rome, because this is most definitely not an accurate portrayal of how Black Italians are treated. A very romanticised portrayal... Also a little belittling I find that one of the girl states that Italian like Black women because they are 'exotic', are you being serious? We're not bloody fruits.
Così bello come questo video è, è una visione molto ristretta di ciò che com'è essere una 'ragazza nera' a Roma. Credo che un disclaimer dovrebbe essere scritto qui per dire come ci si sente ad essere nero americano o ex-pat nero a Roma, perché questo non è sicuramente un ritratto accurato di come sono trattati neri italiani. Una rappresentazione molto romanzata ... anche trovo un po' riduttivo che una delle donne afferma che agli italiani piacciono le donne nere perché sono 'esotiche', lei sta scherzando?? Sa che non siamo frutti?
But hey, this is just my perception as an Afro-Italian woman.
Please read some of my replies below. Not all of the women are American. There are specific reasons why the video seems American-heavy and it has more to do with Black participants from other areas of the world not being as willing to sign the consent form or speak on camera. #InNero is an on-going series. It'd be great if viewers gave space and opportunity for the project to grow and evolve naturally--and refrained from judging the narratives of others. Personally, I think it's interesting that seeing Black women thriving abroad makes ALL kindsa commenters on here...itchy. Pensa te...
As someone whose mother is Gambian (west coast of Africa in case you're unfamiliar) and has moved to the UK, built herself a successful career, I most definitely do not begrudge successful Black women abroad. These women however are predominately expat Black women and therefore it is very unlikely that they experience to the same extent the prejudice towards native Black Italians. I however am opened minded to see other, more realistic portrayals of the Black Italians in Rome. Although I can imagine why they would shy away from the camera.
The same way you ask viewers like me to refrain from passing judgment is the same way I politely ask you to refrain passing judgement on me. A little taste of your own medicine goes a long way ;)
Why would I be unfamiliar with the Gambia? I write fairytales predominately based in West Africa and publish them. You are welcome to check them out at www.theenglishschoolhouse.com. On my personal fb page I share tons of updates about the stories I have in development. (Tamara Pizzoli) I also own an online art gallery dedicated to predominately Black art--www.thenefgallery.com. #InNero is an artistic series that spans a lot of mediums, and there's a definitive and beautiful African theme throughout it. Not judging you, simply house cleaning the comments section--and encouraging you to pick up a camera and tell the stories you wish to see if the narratives of others aren't what you deem to be an accurate portrayal of...who they are.
Thanks for the links, I will definitely check them out! I just want to clarify that I am not trying to make these women fit my expectation of what it means to be black and in Italian but I want to point out that their experience for the most part is very divergent to native born black Italians. Anyway, thanks for showing me your perspective on the matter, I will definitely be picking up the camera when I get the chance next year to (hopefully) other voices. Best.
This is very nice. My father is Sicilian and I'm considering moving there for a time. I would like to see more daily life. Thank you!
@Eros Delorenzi ma che minchia dici
Eros Delorenzi i have seen a lot sicilian mix lol
Eros Delorenzi se è vero quello che dici, siete proprio ignoranti
Dr pizzoli I had a pleasure of meeting your mother today and I bought a few books. you are amazing
Hi looking forward to more Black girls in Rome, when is the next video going to be featured? Subscribed :D
Probably late summer. Thank you for asking.
of course, we need more channels like this
This is amazing! I would love to see more content!
+Natasha Pugh Thank you!
Just watched the work you've done and I'm sorry to say that, as an Italian with African origins, it adds nothing to the necessary discussion. Not only because "black girls" is a very generic appellative that makes much sense in the US and less in Italy. But also because, being African-American and being Italian (with African origins), hence being a black Italian, are two very different things and should be treated as such. It is indeed true that most times it is made no distinction between the two, however the so-called "second generation" live in a complete different world from the one you depicted. If the aim was to share the stories of African-American women in Rome, then I understand your point. If, however, the aim was to depict the lives/experiences/stories of black women in general (included black Italians) I'm afraid you've gone a bit off rails.
The goal was to narrate ourselves and to begin a discussion. It's important and relevant work. Thank you.
+Pizzoli Media She has a point. Putting black is misleading because it entails the black diaspora as a whole. African Americans sometimes tend to think blackness revolves around them and their experience is a validation of everyone else. Africans in Italy and most of Europe in general have a complete different experience when it comes to their blackness in comparison to black americans visiting which comes with a set of privilege. I know that when I travel to Europe that I'm being afforded a privilege just because of my American passport. The OP made a great point. It's an important part of the discussion and shouldn't be dismiss.
+Bsmoove nice indeed, different kind of blackness means different privileges and perceptions, it should not be ignored when talking about "black people "
+Pizzoli Media I was going to write a long comment, but I wont waste my energy. I was also going to write a respectful comment, but because you've so blatantly disregarded a native born Italian of African origins I will not give you any respect. If you seriously don't see how your project is problematic you have serious issues. Okay, so you're an American woman in Italy. So what, why is your experience more valid than a woman of African origins that has lived in Italy for her entire life? How dare you disregard someone that has a very great point and obviously has a different type of knowledge when it comes to living in Italy. You are othering native born Italian women of African descent in so many ways and to me you're doing it purposefully. If this is a discussion between you and your friends then don't portray it as some type of representation of the voices of native born woc in Italy (read: its actually screwed up to call them black). But oh, I forgot....being American sets you above everybody else.
+essflem I'm not here for your respect. I'm here to tell my stories and give other women and individuals the opportunity to do the same. I'm proud of my work, my voice and how I use my platform. You're welcome to use yours as you choose. Keep watching. It's appreciated. We're currently filming Black men in Rome so be on the look out for it!
Love it! Keep up the good work.
Just came across this video I think the video is interesting, but I don’t think it actually reflects the Nero in Rome. It would have been interesting interviewing the Afro Italians. I was born in Rome and this video only show one side of the story.
For example I spent some time in brazil and experienced some discrimination because I learned a little Portuguese and ventured away from the tourist areas....many people were afraid of me as if I could be a possible criminal based on my skin color
Now "some" black American woman that ventured out away from to tourist areas received discrimination but it manifested itself in the form
Of discrimination when they entered into stores...some whites perceived them as not having enough money to afford the items....
Two different manifestations yet both based on skin color....there is no need to approach things from a feminist view point when the experience could be felt by both men and woman just sometimes differently...
They love what ......I'm black Italian and curiosity is not love
At least when you're curious about someone it means you are open to their culture. The same cannot be said about many blacks in Italy. You guys BARELY try to open up to different cultures. Out of all the blacks I know, 2 out of 10 open up to italian culture.
Last Ethiopian African American women are desperate that's why they create such videos
Last Ethiopian Hi could you text me and tell me how Africans are treated in Italy. I'm African American and live in United States of America. I live in Los Angeles California and it's a very big city. The community that I live in is predominantly Ethiopian and I like that. Ethiopians are very friendly people. One day I would to travel to Ethiopia and see such a beautiful culture. My Ethiopian neighbors invite me to there festivities, all the time. I like people from all over the world. I believe everyone should be treated fairly, no matter where they come from. Thank you!
im 100 pct italian from new york ,i think its great you are black italian hope we can stay in touch
Wow this video was great. I like information about Italy. This is one of the countries that I want to visit.
This is AMAZING and BEAUTIFUL. Thank you for sharing such beautiful journeys of these great black sisters. I have not been to Italy (yet) but have traveled Europe and from a gay black male perspective, I experienced the many things that these women described. My experience was so positive that I wanted to move but as you know, quite a difficult thing to do. I am happy to see and hear how black women are being appreciated for the great power that they are. I look fwd to seeing more videos.
+Cuse149 Thank you!
I love it! Congrats!
+Kai Travelmaker thank you!!
Rome has 5 Million inhabitants, so there are 5 million diffrent opinions about black people.
very interesting Tamar, thank you for this important video. Just a question: why did you translate "black" with "di colore"? I mean we still don't overcome this "coloured" thing??? Which color?? Let's just say black, white, etc. let's start using appropriate terms ;)
Thank you for the compliment, and I'm sure you're aware that there are many individuals who take offense to the term "Black". I attended a great conference in Florence this time last year and there was a young, progressive artist there who gave an entire lecture denouncing that term and refusing that it applied to him. So my short response to your comment would be, who gets to decide what's 'appropriate?' I describe myself as Black, African-American, and a woman of color, and am completely comfortable with those who accept or reject any or all of those labels.
great T-shirt..."CREATE YOUR OWN NARRATIVE"...Think I'll print up a few. along w/ "WAKE UP FROM THE DELUSION OF....INCLUSION"! Respectfully, Margo
Lovely
Hi Tammy! I loved this! I'm a Bajan living in Rome. I'd love to meet up with you sometime.
When will there be more videos?
When I birth this baby I'm baking. :0)
Are you all still connected? Do you have meetup groups? I ask because I am moving to Rome with my daughter
4:08 The pleasure and the honor to be home of such a nice person is all ours, my friend and sister.
More power to y’all ladies. I don’t think I could take all the staring and questions.
I think the video is great tool to start discussion because it portraits exactly what the author intended "the narratives of black women in Rome" of course every woman has different narrative and it's though work like this that women's voices can be heard. I believe that work of this nature can inspire more work; particulary for those who feel their experiences were not depicted in here. However, I most say that I have been in Italy only for 5 years and I'm not American, but Latin American and I saw myself in many of the women in the video.
The woman in green is so grievous. I can’t stop staring at her 😍
An interesting counterpoint to the Passegiando videos from cecile emeko, about italian-born Black women.
What type camera are you using???
Tears sweetie. This is so beautiful and sad.
LDenise Loveflower this is bullshit because our African brothers & sisters are not treated the same as these African Americans who are just Black on the outside with no cultural ties to Africa or African culture
I think the commenters' points are valid but spoken too soon. I think before passing judgement on this work, questions should have been asked to grasp a better understanding of what the project was about. Getting up in arms about semantics is usually really stupid so I, as an African having been born in and living in the United States have a completely different experience here than an African who was born of immigrant parents or is an immigrant themselves. We know this this is like, DUH! So the obvious comments below should have instead asked if other perspectives and experiences will be explored and explain why that is also important. Announcing that this perspective is irrelevant is problematic as well. So for those commenters, please step off of your high horse and enjoy the documentary. Try to improve it with positive feed back and making suggestions, asking questions, because your animosity toward African American women is showing, and the bitterness is actually getting in the way. Thanks.
+SweetieMackiin Check this! I don't care what you have to say. You can reply, you can msg me, you can yap all that you want. My opinion is my opinion and I said what I said. Get over it and move on. The conversation was obviously done. You flaming this back up is stupid. Waste your time replying if you want to. I'm ignoring you
Molto Interessante Tamara!
+Davide Spina Grazie!
Unfortunately, i could'nt finish watching. As a BLACK Woman ( read: "African-American", Born in Northeast USA, descendants of freed enslaved Africans mixed w Indigenous, Irish & who knows what else)... who lived in Rome for 6 years, this is a very mish-moshed glossy perspective of a very layered and varied experience. Black is NOT African. sorry. African immigrants are treated VERY differently from American ex-pats (brown or NOT). In the 6 years I commuted to my job on my Vespa ( as an artist/ tv personality = another privilege) I did not see ONE other brown woman on a moped... and only a few in the cars i passed... in almost 7 years!!! There is NO INTERGRATION of African Women in Italy. I actually had to pull out my Passport in a government office where they were condescending (thinking i was Ethiopian) until I started cursing in my New York accent and pulled out my passport. Documents I had been waiting MONTHS for magically appeared the NEXT WEEK. I think the problem is not this video. That's her perspective... albeit glossy and surface. The problem is there needs to be more of a discussion in GENERAL of how in Italy, Beauty trumps Race. And "Black Girls" in Rome is not an honest title when the women in this video obviously span the diaspora of African experience.
Loved reading the comments more than anything.
This is a push for those of us that cannot accept THIS 1-dimentional conversation to exapand the conversation to include the TRUTH(s) we lived and live as black & brown women Internationalists... if this video is "out" there... then the rest of the stories and the depth of perspective needs to be "out" there as well. Otherwise its not really 'serving' the people it seems to want to reach and 'educate' ... its just self- masturbatory and perpetuates a lack of awareness and responsibility as ex-pats versus immigrants...Ex-pats have choices that immigrants may not have access to. But WHAT do American Blacks DO with that privilege and awareness??? I felt a responsibility while living in Rome to work with the African Immigrant community in Testaccio for example...I think the call from Africans to recognize the difference in experience is not to criticize but to open an AWARENESS of the responsibility within privilege. SO. Pizzoli Media...Thanks for the push to bring out more depth in this perspective of what it is like to be an American Black woman ex-pat in Italy. Poi sarebbe interessante di vedere un video dove si senti qualcuno parlando italanio vero...perche questo e la vera prova di "intergrazione" versus una perspectiva di spettatore culturale....beh... ma, quello e un altro conversazione per un altro filme....
+free bird Look forward to seeing what you and others create to get other stories 'out there' with the gift of your responsibility and privilege. Check out the Black Girls in Rome web series (trailer on TH-cam). It's scripted, dialogue is in Italian and English & subtitled--written, directed and produced by me. Abbiamo anche le persone di colore parlando in Italiano! Pensa te... :0)
lovely video
+Tazliymah thank you!!
This doesn't make me want to go to Italy
+keira motoki and it would be a big mistake!
come and you won't regret it :)
This is really a sweet and encouraging comment. Then hopefully one day God willing, I'll be able to go and have some good experiences :)
It's a clever decision to avoid visiting Italy if you're black. In fact a black man was killed in Italy a couple of days ago just because he was black and it's not the first time that a black man is killed in Italy just because he's black. Italy is dangerous if you're black, is a country that has a long history of racism against blacks (think about Mussolini and the fascists) save your money and visit some other European country.
hahahaha you're just writing crap, Italy is the safest country in the world for the blacks.
.......... at Fermo? So tell the story the way it was and not how you wrote .ciao
I saw this on For Harriet and while I liked the video overall, I feel it was a bit superficial and lacking depth. It was nice to see the beautiful Black women just being though. The "Strolling" series on youtube, by Emeke gives you the other story that some of the commentors were looking for.
K, but it's NOT the strolling series. It's its own on-going series. I encourage anyone who doesn't agree with the stories of others to pick up a camera and tell their own in the way they see fit.
about those u say " italians are extreme racist with blacks " could u articolate and tell us some example of your experience ?
very beautiful women
look forward to seeing the web series. Perhaps you will address some of the comments that I see below? But overall, it's a beautiful piece that is sure to evolve as you continue to share stories. I featured this video on FTV picks-a new video hub that highlights new films and series by and /or featuring talent of color. You can see the page here freealityproductions.com/ftvpicks/
+Freeality TV Thank you so much for your support and for sharing the video.
classy women!
+MrJazmine87 Thank you!
Ok
im 100 pct italian american and i love black women thats all i date
Joe Moschetta - Fetishizing.
6:07 is gorgeous lady.
I liked Italy, but it got on my nerves of my blackness was made a point of conversation.There are some boundaries they cannot cross and I will address. However it's nice there but prefer to mix with people I can relate to, not among ignorance, (my ex family that's why I'm an ex) my daughter who is half Italian, will learn to know the culture and ignorance.
Am in Italy and I know
Every one wants to be appreciated, in America Black women no matter our heritage are view all the same and mostly negative! In America you are Black first, then female and never really a fellow American!
@@rightsaysted8911 posso chiederti di dove hai vissuto in Italia?
Dove*
E quando mai l'Italia è stato un paese aperto?
I love hearing about positivity and embracing something new but Unfortunately this video doesn't put forth that, The perspective of this video is from black women who grew up in America and recently moved to rome. Yes they are black but they do not represent The accurate amount of black people who are in Italy as well as the native people of Italy who are Descendants of black African Italians. Those black women of Rome, true black women have far different experiences.
+phylicia Taylor The video isn't attempting to be representative of ALL Black women in Rome. All of the women aren't American. And it is the first of many in the series. The participants were free and open to share as they wanted, and I contend they're all "true" black women. Of course the experiences are varied in Rome, but there are so many factors that led to the video turning out the way that it did. A variety of women were photographed, but not all agreed to be shown on film. You'll see a range of diversity in the glimpses of photos in the film. As the curator, I chose to let the project naturally evolve, and don't see that as problematic as the title of the piece isn't "All Black Women in Rome in 12 minutes."
do Italian women like black men
+Tyrone Warfield No, they don't.
some do and some don't
+Tyrone Warfield Italian women and black men in Italy? Nah sorry. Italian parents in Italy will never accept their daughter dating a black man.
Texas is the home of the players and pimps xD
Timmy O'toole Houston, TX, Hustletown baby!
12:37 African woman with white woman's hair...typical...and making the most exaggerated statement : Italians love black women! ...yeah sure...i
Sharing this video on blackgirlfly.com!
thank you!
Pizzoli Media Hello! I just watched your video and wanted to know if I can reach out to one of the ladies before I go to Rome towards the end of the month. Do you have a contact information?
Non è vero
ill bet they don't like Zimbabwe or Uganda. Africa.
I love how the lade with faux blonde hair speaks about the Italian love for Black American women but she is not immersing herself 100% in her Black heritage... 😕
being African American women here in America embrace all kinds of colors of hair and totally wholeheartedly love AND embrace everything black!!
ppl l
2 words...Mary J.
I don't believe this
and u love the white european culture
So what
MANDINGO CRINGO MACHACHO HOLA! The bald one is like a man i used to think Michelle Obama was a man not anymore!!!