A simple 9mm kills an enemy just as dead as a laser rifle. But if there are ten thousand more troops for every one you can kill, those laser guns don't mean anything.
Dave had been playing the same game for year it went by a different name. They should have figured something was up when he caught on to how to play an alien game so quickly.
It is now canon that TheSpiffingBrit became disenfranchised after TH-cam struck down his channel due to pressure from alien game making companies/game tournaments and thus he changed his name to Dave to infiltrate and piss off the aliens.
And the Ukrainian forces are currently proving the uselessness of heavy battle tanks versus fire and forget guided missiles, and an armed civilian militia.
While their logistics needed help for it to work, it is a perfectly valid strategy You issue each of your soldiers with 200 rounds for his gun? We issued 500 soldiers for each of yours.
Iirc someone commented something about "spamming trash units" on someone else's video read-through of this story, and of its sequel where he goes full Tyranid in the second game.
Aliens: We have the greatest, and most powerful fleets ever created, Human. They took centuries to build and they will annihilate all things! Human: All my ships can be summarized into a Cockpit, and engine, and a gun. Let me introduce you to a little concept we call "Attrition Warfare".
not only dave but it would also have worked for the SW empire had they not wasted so many resources on megastructure-follies with glaring weaknesses. imagine every rebel strike being responded to by 20-50 rapid reaction carriers bearing swarms of tie fighters/bombers not many places left to retreat to when you have that sort of pursuit force after you.
I see Dave was was using Orks tactic's from Warhammer 40k and Soviet tech . Enough Dakka can solve any problem. If Dakka does not work , bring more Dakka to overwhelm the foe.
As we find out in the sequel story, Dave is a master because he actually understands strategy while everyone else is just using cookie cutter builds that they don't really understand in depth. I've watched Starcraft videos where exactly this situation plays out (albeit between two players); the player that understands strategy and unconventional builds absolutely trounces players using "unstoppable" cookie cutter builds.
@@AgroSquerril I also have heard this one before, but I love the story. Did you do Humans are Cheating Bastards? I would love to hear that one again too.
This was hilarious. Reminds me of my 2 year long, every weekend game of Axis and Allies I had going with a friend. I couldn't win because he was figuring out his purchases using excel spreadsheets and advanced formulae that I didn't understand, and I am a lead designer for a power engineering firm.
Quantity has a quality all to itself, and when you can, make sure that your forces are built around force multipliers so that all “numerically fair” fights are not fair at all. Then use all that you can to be a sneaky bastard, because the only fair fight is the one you lose.
My thing is this, quantity will never truly surpass quality, but numbers do count. Quality doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't field enough of it, or replace it fast enough when, not if, you lose something. The trick is to balance quality and quantity as well as you can and use the strengths of both to balance out the weaknesses of both.
Humans: We are the Hord, We are the Zerg, we are all the swarms that we have created in our fantasies as well as all the horrors! Our imagination is our limit and let me tell you, I can imagine a lot of ships!
So humanity has been preparing for galactic warfare since the rise of PC games? Maybe even before that? Someone's probably written that story - I wonder if our host has read it?
many years ago, my friends and I were avid players of Axis and Allies. The first time I took Russia, my friend who had taken Germany pulled the classic blunder of trying to destroy the UK. I sat there, round after round after round amassing men. Just men, no tanks, no planes, and no ships. When the German player finally looked east, I had a wall of men amassed on the border. Then he made the mistake of attacking...
Dave: I have no social life, I've beaten Hoi4 endsieg in 1945 with expert ai, i did it with Japan and Germany, did it with the Soviets in 41, do not trifle with my knowledge or you'll be drown under a wave of conscripts
And still, Dave kept smiling!😁 An expensive military is a vulnerable one. Dave stocked up on cheap used sruff, and cheap off the shelf tech, which left him enough money to retrofit his military with some better quality weapons. At the same time, he was able to field large numbers of the cheap ships, and supply them with lots of cheap ammo. Which would you rather face, a modern hand gun or AR 15, or a well maintained old gatling gun with plenty of ammo belts? Good intel is always helpful and will save money and lives down the line.
Hence why one of his first major investments was in counter intelligence. Keep the other side from knowing as much about you as you can, and do your best to ensure that what they know will not give them the full picture.
This reminds me of playing AOE back in the day and building nothing but elephant archers, balista, catapults, walls, balista towers, and then starting a wonder for the wonder victory. There would be so many projectiles flying across the map is caused lag. By the time the lag cleared so were the enemies.
@@SpectorOfDoomYT There is only 2 ways to Play stellaris. Be a inwardperfectionist, isolated from the Rest of the Galaxy Become the physical Manifestation of "WAR CRIMES"
excuse my ignorance .. but the only AOE i know of is a stone age to medival time on one small map not planets and space ships. what AOE are we talking about?
aliens...plays combat... dave...plays strategy and tactics... also.. difference between own thinker commanders and the ones that sure read a lot of 'meta' but bairly can think of a course of action on ther own..
Plasma weapons in space actually should compensate for fuel expenditure and fuel acceleration that has to be equated to not just generate a puff. Anything thrown must be able to maintain that reaction against the distance crossed. Modified kinetic weapons would achieve this through sub-core materials. Plain plasma makes no sense from any truly logical perspective. The sub core must maintain any plasmic reaction. The core is designed for penetration or fragment sown penetration. Scifi fails on certain fronts but is so entertaining plot wise to not discard. A true mass driver has reactant fuel accelerated to sub or FTL+.
It doesn't matter how nice your guns are. All that matters is how dead your enemies are.
true
A simple 9mm kills an enemy just as dead as a laser rifle. But if there are ten thousand more troops for every one you can kill, those laser guns don't mean anything.
Well said
Ye
indeed dont matter if its shiny or not..only if its effective ;)
Tbh i expected for Dave to say something along the lines of "I probably should've told you that I have over 5000 hours in stelaris" at the end
Same got more in total war and hoi4
When you become Crisis.
Galactic Civilization sounds more like it in all honesty. It is a more complicated Space Age Civ game than Stelaris.
Dave had been playing the same game for year it went by a different name. They should have figured something was up when he caught on to how to play an alien game so quickly.
The second they said Dave took low tech world's I KNEW.
All HAIL THE ZERG RUSH!!!
The low worth worlds of plenty. Very much worth the chaos
In magic the gathering parlance, Dave was running a weenie deck!
AOE is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits
TheSpiffingBrit
It is now canon that TheSpiffingBrit became disenfranchised after TH-cam struck down his channel due to pressure from alien game making companies/game tournaments and thus he changed his name to Dave to infiltrate and piss off the aliens.
@@Loregamorl If it was said that Dave was drinking yorkshire tea I would 100% agree that Dave was spiffing in disguise.
To be fair he has no idea how to play AoE3. He tried to use an island map, which are multiplayer only.
YES, ABSOLETLY YES! This right here!
"if we throw enough humans into their bullets, they will soon run out of bullets..."
That's the moral of the story...
thats exactly how humans tend to fight too.
@@ejedwards1678 Replication is part of the scientific process. Humans know a lot about exploiting systems.
Zapp Brannigan approves
Russian military strategy 101.
Comrade Stalin approves of your tactics from his pit in hell.
"except Dave, frick Dave!"
Made me laugh for a while
"And he still was fricken smiling"
Made me laugh even longer
:)
@@AgroSquerril
Great stories btw TFOS is my favorite
@@WeevilLover9000 glad you enjoy
: > )
Dave externally: still fricken smiling.
Dave internally: I’m going to wwii you bros.
"Dave kept on smiling" Always my favorite line in this story.
hey , he was having fun
Every time my wife head that line, she just chuckled.
@@douglasmcneil8413 that has put an image in my mind please make it go away
@@lupaswolfshead9971 That was supposed to say heard. I blame the keyboard for that one. 😆
Dave's smile seems to be contagious since I'm smiling.
that's always good
Now im laughing, and i didnt here it yet
Agreed
Say it with me *the Soviets proved high tech in modern warfare doesn’t mean shit when your facing hordes of men and steel*
“If you throw enough people at the bullets eventually they will run out of bullets”
And the Ukrainian forces are currently proving the uselessness of heavy battle tanks versus fire and forget guided missiles, and an armed civilian militia.
While their logistics needed help for it to work, it is a perfectly valid strategy
You issue each of your soldiers with 200 rounds for his gun? We issued 500 soldiers for each of yours.
There is a limit to that strategy. The Russians are finding it now.
Yea, and the problem with the Soviets, and the current Russians, is that they also have the modern tech.
Iirc someone commented something about "spamming trash units" on someone else's video read-through of this story, and of its sequel where he goes full Tyranid in the second game.
So we went from swarm tactics to... SWARM tactics?
@@confusedlemur12 he used FTL artillery to shoot a self replicating nano machine swarm onto opponent planets so yes SWARM tactics
Aliens: We have the greatest, and most powerful fleets ever created, Human. They took centuries to build and they will annihilate all things!
Human: All my ships can be summarized into a Cockpit, and engine, and a gun. Let me introduce you to a little concept we call "Attrition Warfare".
Zerg rush go bbbbrrrrr
Quantity has a Quality all it's own.
krieg war doctrine go brrrr...then recruits zergs and go BRRRRRR
Guardsmen go "BRRRRT!"
You forgot fuel :D
I think this was the first HFY narration that I ever listened to.
Welcome to the family
It was but the first. it won't be the last.
This... I've heard this story before... But who cares! It's still good as ever.
*More~*
I’m sure you’ve read or heard of said sequel…
*_Cocky Grin…_*
not only dave but it would also have worked for the SW empire had they not wasted so many resources on megastructure-follies with glaring weaknesses. imagine every rebel strike being responded to by 20-50 rapid reaction carriers bearing swarms of tie fighters/bombers
not many places left to retreat to when you have that sort of pursuit force after you.
Dave's motto, "Quantity has a Quality all it's own."
I see Dave was was using Orks tactic's from Warhammer 40k and Soviet tech . Enough Dakka can solve any problem. If Dakka does not work , bring more Dakka to overwhelm the foe.
Prepare for wah.
WUUUUAAAAAAGGGGGHHHGHHHGHHGGGHHHGGHHH
@@confusedlemur12 (silent "wuuuuuaaaaagggghhhh" from the purple ork in the back)
if you got a problem, use a gun, if that don't work, use more gun.
" Big E's quote from TTS series when he was asked *how much dakka is enough?* "
Yeah *enuff dakka* can probally make chaos gods cease to exist
So Civilization meets Starcraft....and Dave is a master of both games it seems. Those poor poor fools
As we find out in the sequel story, Dave is a master because he actually understands strategy while everyone else is just using cookie cutter builds that they don't really understand in depth. I've watched Starcraft videos where exactly this situation plays out (albeit between two players); the player that understands strategy and unconventional builds absolutely trounces players using "unstoppable" cookie cutter builds.
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 Asymmetrical warfare at its finest
Stellaris player in nutshell, Corvette torpedo spam or spinal battleship blob.
Well, Dave was clearly playing the Anchient Human Tactic, called "Zergrush" ^^
i already heard this but i'll still watch the video.
Much appreciated
@@AgroSquerril I also have heard this one before, but I love the story. Did you do Humans are Cheating Bastards? I would love to hear that one again too.
@@MaitlandJones BLAMMO th-cam.com/video/HXFoR7Uljqs/w-d-xo.html
This was hilarious. Reminds me of my 2 year long, every weekend game of Axis and Allies I had going with a friend. I couldn't win because he was figuring out his purchases using excel spreadsheets and advanced formulae that I didn't understand, and I am a lead designer for a power engineering firm.
Quantity has a quality all to itself, and when you can, make sure that your forces are built around force multipliers so that all “numerically fair” fights are not fair at all. Then use all that you can to be a sneaky bastard, because the only fair fight is the one you lose.
If you aint cheating you aint trying
My thing is this, quantity will never truly surpass quality, but numbers do count. Quality doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't field enough of it, or replace it fast enough when, not if, you lose something. The trick is to balance quality and quantity as well as you can and use the strengths of both to balance out the weaknesses of both.
Cant wait this stories a good one!
Humans: We are the Hord, We are the Zerg, we are all the swarms that we have created in our fantasies as well as all the horrors! Our imagination is our limit and let me tell you, I can imagine a lot of ships!
Humans playing this game: *chuckles in stellaris meta building*
I kept waiting for one of the aliens to rush into his core world, only to find it empty, and shout, "Dave's not here, man!"
So humanity has been preparing for galactic warfare since the rise of PC games? Maybe even before that? Someone's probably written that story - I wonder if our host has read it?
Based Dave refitting old ship hulls like a true hoi4 meta player lmao
The Dollar General strategy of winning.
Thrift shopping battlefleet.
Xeno was battling Macklemore.
Wow dave just went Imperial Guard using the Imperial navy
I remember a similar exploit under specific situation in StarCraft 1 mass overlords the easiest way to win a game is to break it.
Lol the tried and true Russian tactic of just chucking shit at the enemies and drowning them in bodies
After all, quantity has a quality all its' own.
Drown them in our bodies and blood!
This is like the 3rd time I've listened to this story,
I want to play this game.
:)
It’s basically Stellaris
I like this story. It gets batter with part two!!
Where can I find part 2?
Where can I find part two?
Dave is smiling, but im laughing
This is the story that got me into HFY
Ah, yes. The legend of Dave. I enjoy this one...
:)
many years ago, my friends and I were avid players of Axis and Allies. The first time I took Russia, my friend who had taken Germany pulled the classic blunder of trying to destroy the UK. I sat there, round after round after round amassing men. Just men, no tanks, no planes, and no ships. When the German player finally looked east, I had a wall of men amassed on the border. Then he made the mistake of attacking...
Dave: I have no social life, I've beaten Hoi4 endsieg in 1945 with expert ai, i did it with Japan and Germany, did it with the Soviets in 41, do not trifle with my knowledge or you'll be drown under a wave of conscripts
Aliens: Playing the game like normal people
Dave: "Have you ever heard of Halo? No? Huh. What about Warhammer?"
This is like the opposite of Halo's human-covenant war.
Dave learned well the lessons of WW2
Dave essentially did a ZERG swarm😂😂
Reminds me of playing VGA Planets, back in the day. Except my wife was "Dave".
Let a high-level StarCraft player at the game and watch their heads explode!
And still, Dave kept smiling!😁 An expensive military is a vulnerable one. Dave stocked up on cheap used sruff, and cheap off the shelf tech, which left him enough money to retrofit his military with some better quality weapons. At the same time, he was able to field large numbers of the cheap ships, and supply them with lots of cheap ammo. Which would you rather face, a modern hand gun or AR 15, or a well maintained old gatling gun with plenty of ammo belts? Good intel is always helpful and will save money and lives down the line.
Hence why one of his first major investments was in counter intelligence. Keep the other side from knowing as much about you as you can, and do your best to ensure that what they know will not give them the full picture.
A good economy is the backbone of any army
This got me thinking of old games and I found Steam has the Master of Orion games. Hail the algorithm.
As someone who always goes “tall” with high tech and high economy in 4x I also say “frick Dave”. I hate Zerg rush. 😅
I see Dave went the liberty ship route then.
guy in my gaming group won lots of strategy games with the theory that the highest economy wins most of the time.
This reminds me of playing AOE back in the day and building nothing but elephant archers, balista, catapults, walls, balista towers, and then starting a wonder for the wonder victory.
There would be so many projectiles flying across the map is caused lag. By the time the lag cleared so were the enemies.
Dave ! David lister ?
keeper going
This has to be one of the best
Have you ever heard of "minmaxing"?
Sounds like a paradox game, no need to pay with resources when I become a crisis. Hahahaha
Zerg v protoss lol
FTA
For the algorithm
There is always another possible route to victory.
yup
Accuracy by volume. F&$?, i love dave’s plan…😅
The key to war is industrial output. Quality is important, but only in the right measure. Sherman tank anyone?
Quantity has a quality of its own.
"do you want to play a game?"
WarGames (3/11) Movie CLIP - Shall We Play a Game? (1983) HD
sorry i got the quote wrong.
"Welcome to Starsector"
- Some guy
Someone needs to make this a game irl on a board or disk or download and make it happen
Soooo, like and enhanced version of Stellaris?
@@SpectorOfDoomYT
There is only 2 ways to Play stellaris.
Be a inwardperfectionist, isolated from the Rest of the Galaxy
Become the physical Manifestation of "WAR CRIMES"
@@LS9646 we don't use the term war crime, we use the term war ender.
@@frozenheartedgiant8330
What do you mean this isnt an Area-denial-weapon?
It clearly denied them this Planet!
@@LS9646 In galactic scale that planet cracker is just a hand grenade.
Lol... I wondered where Dave met these guys hehe I wonder if Dave is part Korean...
Thank You for the reading
Dakka, always more dakka.
pew pew
Yay thanks for reading this.
The WW2 USSR / Zerg tactic FTW
EOA game is basically space monopoly.
It takes forever to actually win and everyone leaves mad!
Dave subscribed to the axiom - quantity has a quality all its own.
Wait so it takes years to play this game or am I just stupid
Edit: I’m a fricking idiot and should sacrifice the comment to the algorithm
For the algorithm
I think it might have been ingame years
I think it's in alien years.
There are no dangerous weapons only dangerous people who use weapons
Quantity is not quality, but quantity has a quality all it's own.
anybody know where to find the apparent sequel to this?
as far as I know this on is the sequel , here is the first one. th-cam.com/video/HXFoR7Uljqs/w-d-xo.html
Ahhh for the swarm!
Blessed be the algorithm
For the algorithm
This is actually the low key biggest problem for the American military. They lose to the overrun so consistently they banned the method in war games 😂
Go it Dave, you did us proud lad.
I really like this story!
For the algorithm!
For the algorithm
What? Dave didn't say, "You mad, brah?"
This is litterally how I play Star Ruler....
Good I love this one so much ch
glad you enjoeyd
What does he mean by smash-oh I see
Quality trumps Quantity.
.
But as the Russians would say, "Quantity has a Quality of its own."
Do not underestimate Murder Primates ™️ !!!!
Human total war vs alien total war.
Oh neat, they play stellaris
This was actualy my firsst hfy (read by nfy who also did the second one)
Cool
@@AgroSquerril quite
why is the standard caption in korean?
For the algorithm 👽👾🤖🌌🛰🚀🛸🌠
excuse my ignorance .. but the only AOE i know of is a stone age to medival time on one small map not planets and space ships. what AOE are we talking about?
aliens...plays combat...
dave...plays strategy and tactics...
also.. difference between own thinker commanders and the ones that sure read a lot of 'meta' but bairly can think of a course of action on ther own..
Sounds fun.
why are the subtitles in korean?
no clue , that would be a youtube thing
WWII’d
Using a horrendous Russian accent "you see komrad, i dont need fire power if you cant dodge bullets"
Plasma weapons in space actually should compensate for fuel expenditure and fuel acceleration that has to be equated to not just generate a puff. Anything thrown must be able to maintain that reaction against the distance crossed. Modified kinetic weapons would achieve this through sub-core materials. Plain plasma makes no sense from any truly logical perspective. The sub core must maintain any plasmic reaction. The core is designed for penetration or fragment sown penetration. Scifi fails on certain fronts but is so entertaining plot wise to not discard.
A true mass driver has reactant fuel accelerated to sub or FTL+.
Can someone link me the second story?
www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/63hu38/an_exceptional_human/ i think
Thanks
Mmm, Infantry doctrine.