Torque Pro & WiFi OBD Scanner: Connecting - OBD4Everyone Ep. 5
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- In this episode of OBD4Everyone, we will show you how use an inexpensive Wifi OBD scanner and the $5 Android app: “Torque Pro” to connect to the engine computer, add some gauges and make it talk faster.
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Thanks, I ordered a bluetooth Vgate iCar Pro and i got sent the wifi version, the simple info you gave had me up and running in mins, plus the extra info was great to know.
Thx Paul
Hey Paul,
I'm glad to hear that!
Welcome to the wonderful world of OBD!
Nice video! Good to mention that Torque also has some preset profiles which are very handy. For the prius for instance it has mapping for each individual battery pack and other sensors which are only used in hybrids.
Thanks for the info!
@OBD4Everyone does this need an update or is it still valid?
Thank you so much for you simple, easy and great explanation. I was ont eh edge to get the torque pro and your video make it easy no -brainer.
Hey Manoj Vijaukumar,
You are very welcome! Torque Pro is a very good app for OBD diagnostics. More episodes are in the editing process right now and should be bout soon.
I was going to throw mine in the bin . Thanks for such an easy resolution. First youtube video i have liked in a long time.
Hey Phil Bowden
Thank you for your kind words!
I'm glad the video helped :)
Great walkthrough and instruction. Many thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
Top presentation. Well done 👍
Hey Paul Z,
Thank you! I am working on the next episode right now :)
I love the ***idea*** of Torque. If I could just get it to connect, that'd be great - but it *WON'T.* Not about to shamble my way through buying up one adapter after another in a fruitless attempt to find one that connects. Stopping at two, thanx ever so much. This has the exact flavor of trying to get printers/dialup to work in linux, back in the day. Finally succeeded, but only after much purchasing & hair tearing. I soon went back to microSITH. Color me unimpressed. Gonna keep looking.
I understand... sometimes this stuff can be frustrating as there are multiple moving parts.
It could be your phone not liking a wifi connection without internet, your car might not be OBD certified (check for sticker under hood), the OBD device might be bad, or a combination of those items.
I have always had good luck with OBDFusion, so that my be an option for you.
Thanks 👌
Hey Vannelsie Briseño Méndez,
You are welcome :)
great tutorial.. thanks.
I'm glad you liked it!
Have fun learning more about your car through OBD :)
@@OBD4Everyone wifi one works much better thanthe bluetooth one..
how simply described. Thanks.
can we manipulate engine settings with OBD? lets say if wanted to reduce RPMs during idle position.
Hey ruknani,
With the typical ELM327 and Torque Pro (or any inexpensive app) there is no way to change the idle speed. OBD-2 is read only.
What is the speed of your idle and why do you want to lower it?
OBD4Everyone Thank you for the reply.
I have daihatsu mira cocoa 660cc model 2014.
At the start of the engine the gauge shows 1200 RPMs. During drive the RPMs I get about 900 to 1000 on idle position.
Thanks
Hey ruknani,
I am not familiar with that car... but generally small engines (like 660cc) typically idle around 900 to 1,000 RPM when warmed up. (based on my experience with 600 and 750cc motorcycle engines.)
Just got the wifi OBD scanner and it connected easily. I would like to know if the information via wifi can be viewed on a desktop computer running windows 10? Maybe by using the wifi address ?
Hey Cheryl DeVore,
Yes it can! BUT you need an OBD program to manage the data communication between the PC and the OBD scanner.
Here are someone that I have used:
• www.obdsoftware.net/software/touchscan
• glmsoftware.com/Purchase.aspx
and you can do an online search to many more options.
Have fun and good luck!
Hi there. Thanks for taking your time to show how to setup up torque on wifi.
I have my Torque setup through WIFI on my android. all is working great, but when i want to connect to the internet, lets say i want to download usermade themes and other things, it wont connect to the internet.
Iam using my iphone to connect my android to the internet throug wifi. My android is a car android screen with GPS, music etc etc. I swaped it out for my old navigation, to get some newer features from android into my car. It all works great, and when i need to connect to other things that need internet connection, like gps or other app, i connect through wifi on my iphone, i made a shared internet connection on it. It works great
But since torgue also uses wifi, i cant use my wifi on my iphone. is there a how to do, to get it to connect to the internet, using my iphone. iam thinking i will have the same problem all over again, if i switch to bluetooth, since i think torque cant use both things. So how would i get updates or new skins / themes for my torque. Or would it use my android wifi through my iphone to connect to the internet.
Yes iam asking alot here LOL :-) But iam a little lost here. I have tried all i can so far with the wifi connection.
Hope you find the time to answer.
Thanks
Hey Ole Lund,
Sorry, but I don't know the answer to your question.
Generally my OBD scanner is only plugged in when I am running a diagnostic report or logging data and I don't have any need for internet access.
I quick google search on "android wi-fi and LTE networks" showed this: geeknizer.com/combine-3g-4g-mobile-data-wifi-speed/
Maybe that will help?
I just recently installed a supercharger on my truck. Anyway I can get a reading for boost lbs from this device?
Hey Jose Gutierrez,
I really can't say... does your truck have a "manifold absolute pressure" sensor? (MAP)
If you do, you could try monitoring the "absolute manifold pressure" sensor and see if it shows boost.
Are you still using the factory ECU?
hi there ,in my Torque Pro the blue icon with the smart phone doesn't work ,but all the rest has blue icon. did you know where the problem is ?
Very sorry for the late reply!
When you say "it doesn't work" can you describe what you have done and any errors?
Is this bluetooth or wifi? What car are you trying to connect to?
I have been able to connect with the phone icon not being bright blue.
Hey! I have a question, so I followed your instructions and made sure that my torque was on Wi-Fi, but the obdi symbol didn't stop flashing! Is there any other way I can try to get it to connect or why it might not be connecting?? It's in a 2002 Honda civic
You might want to pop over to the Torque Pro forum and see if you can get help there: torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewforum&f=1.0
Sir can you pls help me with th3 delay is gauges response , if i rev the the rev gauge react 0.5 late. Kindly confirm
Hey Salman Iftikhar,
The most likely cause of gauges that are slow to respond is the protocol that your car's network uses.
To check which protocol your car uses:
(1) Start Torque Pro and connect to your car
(2) Touch "Adapter Status"
(3) Move down the page an look for "OBD Protocol" and there it is.
Some protocols are fast, like the ISO15765-4 CAN11/500 which runs at 500,000 bits per second and some are slow, like the ISO 9141-2 which runs at 10,000 bits per second.
For the slower protocols, if you reduce the number of PIDs you should have a quicker response.
To see the overall speed of your car's network and OBD scanner, in the Adapter Status section look under "Adapter PID read speed" to see how many PIDs can be read every second.
The other thing that can speed up the gauge response is a faster OBD scanner.
The next episode of OBD4Everyone I will show the results of a 12 OBD scanner speed test on a ISO15765-4 CAN11/500 network. (This is the mandatory protocol for all cars made for North America and Europe from about 2008 and up)
Question, my ELM327 arrived in ADHOC mode (stupid) for 6 years i would use it searching non stop for an STN or Infrastructre mode or Version of the product, one day i decided to see if port 80 is open , it was (HTTP GUI), i switched it to Station mode, i entered SSD, Encryption (WPA2PSK CCMP) and the key ( even kept a screen shot) the ELM327 connects a few seconds to the AP and disconnects. I made sure the AP is set to the same Encryption type, and key... I even set a static/Fixed in the ELM327 .. Any tips? The unit is close to AP, tried many APs, legacy, wrt54g, dd-wrt. different channels. no go . tHANK YOU IN ADVANCE
I don't know... Since I like a data connection, I only use BlueTooth OBD scanners.
Hi there. Is there any way to monitor an OBD scanner like this remotely via 3g/4g mobile phone network?
Sorry, but I am not aware of a product that does this, but I haven't searched for one either.
Thank you for your video. All is great except my android wont stay connected to obd2 wifi adapter and constantly drops the connection, because it doesn't have internet. Please advise.
As you can imagine, there are many things that can cause this...
I would try a different Android device and app to see if it still happens.
Sir please show us comparison between wifi and bluetooth real time speed in real dash
Hey ghanshyam Paunikar,
I think this will show you the speed difference between wifi and bluetooth OBD scanners:
The Ultimate OBD Scanner Buyers Guide & Speed Test (2019): OBD4Everyone E20
th-cam.com/video/U2zrz7ofFFw/w-d-xo.html
Tested straight out of box but I immediately accidentally cleared codes. Is there anyway back to start up again?.
Hey ewelve01,
If I understand your question correctly, you just need to drive the car until the check engine light returns and then CAREFULLY read the code(s).
Some ECU store "permanent" codes that are only cleared when the problem is fixed. They can not be erased.
Maybe try to read the codes again or see if the freeze frame has something.
Good luck!
Brilliant review. but...I have a problem!! My Torque Pro diagnostic app tries to connect to an OBDll which isn't in the socket...how can I reset Torque pro to remove this 'memory' which refuses to let me connect to my new OBDll interface? without deleting and reinstalling Torque Pro? Thanks for any help!
Hey Nicholas Cann,
To me it sounds like Torque Pro is still looking for the last Bluetooth device. Try switching it to Bluetooth, quit and restart Torque Pro and see if that helps.
I have been able to switch back and forth between wifi and bluetooth without any problems on my Samsung Tab A, so it should work for you too :)
@@OBD4Everyone Thank you for your prompt reply...I managed it at 4:30 am this morning :D
Glad to hear!
My problem is that i cannot connect to car ecu.
Hi, came here wondering should i buy a wi-fi OBDII scanner or a bluetooth one, my biggest concern is latency, then price.
Hey Протић,
From the testing I have done (see below) the type of connection (bluetooth / wifi) doesn't seem to have a big impact on the speed.
The speed of the OBD scanner is mostly due to the vehicle network protocol, speed and the quality of the OBD chip. (actually, the size of the internal buffer)
For example the OBD CAN protocol typically runs at 500,000 bits/second and ISO 9141 protocol runs at 12,500 bits per/second.
For me, I do like using bluetooth LE, as it allows a cell data connection while the scanner is connected. With wifi, you can only be connected to one data source, either WIFI or cellular.
My current favourite OBD scanner is the OBDLink MX+
More information is covered in this episode:
2019 OBD Scanner Review & Speed Test:
th-cam.com/video/U2zrz7ofFFw/w-d-xo.html
@@OBD4Everyone Oh sorry, i didnt see that video. Thank you soo much for the comment either way, i apreciate that you tried to explain this as best as possible. Have a great day and good luck with your channel!
When the car is blinking during connection what could be the problem and possibly fix?
I have been having issues with my obd2 connecting to the ecu
That means that the OBD scanner can't connect to your car's engine computer. Check under the hood for a sticker that says "OBD Certified" as some parts of the don't require the ECU to be OBD compliment.
You may want to have a look and ask a question at the app's support forum:
torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewforum&f=1.0
Can we change the temperature reading to degree Celsius ? Can we get this item from Amazon ?
Hey niah ma,
Yes, Torque Pro can disaplay Celcius: Settings > Units > Use Celsius
and here is a link to the Wi-Fi scanner from Amazon:
Foseal Wifi OBD Scanner:
• Amazon Canada: amzn.to/2PeuzRc
• Amazon USA: amzn.to/2vLFCcM
** Note **
We are a participant in the Amazon Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon and affiliated sites.
OBD4Everyone
So which model do you recommend ? Forseal or veepeak ?
Hey niah ma,
They are both good choices, but I like the smaller size of the Veepeak. Happy scanning!
Hey so how can one use a wifi scanner AND use the mobile data on the same device? It sucks bc if I'm using my obd scanner I can't use the internet on my cell phone
Good question!! I think there is a way to do this but haven't looked into it as I switched to BLE OBD scanners.
PID Read Speed ! THANKS
I'm using the same wifi adapter too, but the phone icone is missing on display...
On the blutooth adapter was on, any idea why?
Thank's in advance!
To be honest, I don't know.
You could try the Torque Pro user forum: torque-bhp.com/
and see if some has the answer.
Here is the direct link: torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewforum&f=1.0
Is this OBD Compatible to all type and brand of car?
Hey Joko Prasetiyo,
It depends on the year on the car and what market it was designed for.
OBD II products work with vehicles (including hybrids) sold in the United States in or after 1996. Vehicles in other regions that are OBD II / EOBD / JOBD may also be supported (Canada - 1998, European Union - 2001 (gas), 2004 (diesel), Australia - 2006 (gas), 2007 (diesel), etc.)
Normally there is a sticker somewhere on the car that will show which OBD standard the car is certified to work with. (Normally under the hood)
@@OBD4Everyone thx for your information.
Спасибо
Добро пожаловать
Доброе утро подскажите пожалуйста почему не могу подключиться к be golf 4 не видит эбу
Есть ли в любом случае мы можем сделать это на английском языке? Я использую гугл переводчик.
Вы уверены, что уверены, что Golf MK4 (1997 - 2004) сертифицирован по европейской OBD?
Под капотом должна быть наклейка с надписью «Сертификат OBD-II» или что-то в этом роде.
Насколько я понимаю, автомобили в Европе не поддерживали стандарт OBD до 2001 года, и это было только для новых моделей.
Существующие модели не должны были соответствовать требованиям OBD, пока не была представлена новая модель.
Hi!
I have a problem with OBD2 wi-fi!
Does someone know how to have connection through wifi and have mobile data turned ON on android? I have samsung note 20ultra 5g! I already tryed to put apk. to use only mobile data and its not working! 😞
I thought I read an article on how to have wifi and Cell data work at the same time, but can't find it now.
A quick search resulted in this:
www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-use-mobile-data-while-being-connected-to-Wi-Fi#:~:text=In%20Android%20Pie%20or%20Android,simultaneously%20on%20your%20Android%20phone.
Good luck!
Why did it say "profile not setup" after you set it up?
Hey Shane Prior,
That may of happened in the editing. Sometimes multiple takes are edited together to get the best result and that may of slipped between the cracks. Sorry!
OBD4 Everyone
All good. Was just curious. Thanks for the review and setup process! I can't wait for the Konnwei KW903 to come it so I can give it a try
Hey Shane Proir,
Have fun with your new toy.... ahhhh, I mean diagnostic tool :)
hi , I try to connect , but when I go to wi fi , and I try connect phone with obd , there is " imposible conect " why?
Hey Andrei,
That is going to be hard for me to answer as I don't have details.
The only way I can try to help is if you tell me what car, what scanner, what device and what EXACT steps did you take.
olá meu obd2 trabalha muito lento e a conexão wifi cai todo momento ,pode me ajudar ???
Google translate:
hello my obd2 works very slow and the wifi connection drops all the time, can you help me???
The speed of the sensor update is mostly determined by the protocol your engine computer uses. ISO 9141 is about 12,500 bits per second and CAN Bus is 500,000 bits/second. Maybe you are getting the fastest your engine computer can provide...
As for the wifi dropping, that sounds like an wifi OBD scanner issue or maybe interference. The only time I had a wifi OBD scanner loose the connection was due to a bad wifi OBD scanner.
Google translate to Portuguese:
A velocidade de atualização do sensor é determinada principalmente pelo protocolo que o computador do motor usa. ISO 9141 é de cerca de 12.500 bits por segundo e CAN Bus é de 500.000 bits / segundo. Talvez você esteja obtendo o mais rápido que seu computador de motor pode fornecer ...
Quanto à queda do wi-fi, isso soa como um problema de scanner OBD wi-fi ou talvez interferência. A única vez que eu tive um scanner OBD wi-fi perdendo a conexão foi devido a um scanner OBD wi-fi ruim.
where to buy that wifi adapter?
I purchased that from Amazon a few years ago.
Hi my car icon keeps flashing and the dials dont read anything. Am I doing something wrong
Hey Abi Mccune,
I don't think so. Is the ignition on and the engine running?
A flashing "car" in Torque Pro usually means that it can't communicate with the engine control module. (ECM)
If you look under the hood, check the engine label (usually on the underside of the hood, or by the rad cover) and see if it says "OBD II" certified. If not, Torque Pro or any other OBD device won't work.
Also, in some markets outside of North America and Europe, the OBD communication is locked and only the dealer can get access.
What is the year, make and model of the car?
@@OBD4Everyone hi yes the engine is running and I'll double check under the hood but it's a seat ibiza 1.6 2009 model
I think it is OBD 2 compliant, based on this:
www.outilsobdfacile.com/location-plug-connector-obd/Seat-ibiza-4
Does the OBD scanner work on other cars?
Is WiFi better than Bluetooth?
Good question!
From what I have seen, WIFI can be faster, for 2008+ vehicles that use CAN Bus, but then your phone doesn't have access to cell data :(
Bluetooth does allow cell data while being connected to your car, but it might be a little slower.
Now, for cars from about 2016+, they have a OBD gateway and seem to greatly show the speed of OBD data requests.
For me, I use the BLE (Bluetooth low energy) devices, as I like to stream music while driving my car.
I am facing lag in gagues
Hey Salman Iftikhar,
The most likely cause of gauges that are slow to respond is the protocol that your car's network uses.
To check which protocol your car uses:
(1) Start Torque Pro and connect to your car
(2) Touch "Adapter Status"
(3) Move down the page an look for "OBD Protocol" and there it is.
Some protocols are fast, like the ISO15765-4 CAN11/500 which runs at 500,000 bits per second and some are slow, like the ISO 9141-2 which runs at 10,000 bits per second.
For the slower protocols, if you reduce the number of PIDs you should have a quicker response.
To see the overall speed of your car's network and OBD scanner, in the Adapter Status section look under "Adapter PID read speed" to see how many PIDs can be read every second.
The other thing that can speed up the gauge response is a faster OBD scanner.
The next episode of OBD4Everyone I will show the results of a 12 OBD scanner speed test on a ISO15765-4 CAN11/500 network. (This is the mandatory protocol for all cars made for North America and Europe from about 2008 and up)
@@OBD4Everyone bro really appreciate yiur detailed information , can yiu pls xonfirm what obd2 adaptor shoukd i pirchase to get the real time data, pls share link or only confirm the name of the adaptor , thank you once again bro
Hey Salman Iftikhar,
Can you please tell me the protocol your car uses?
If it uses a slower protocol, a faster OBD scanner won't make any difference.
Please tell me what is shown
To check which protocol your car uses:
(1) Start Torque Pro and connect to your car
(2) Touch "Adapter Status" (
3) Move down the page an look for "OBD Protocol" and there it is.
Just tried Torque Lite and almost send my OBD2 gadget back for refund, because it was like 3-10 sec delay from OBD2 sensor. Then tried app called "OBD Scanner" and I see all is good, no delay. If Torque Lite its so rubbish app, Im not even thinking about Torque Pro. Certainly will go for OBD Scanne Pro. So angry that this Torque app misleading people to think that something wrong with OBD2 sensor...
Hey Audrius A,
That's interesting. As you can imagine some OBD scanners work better with different apps.
I tried to find the app "OBD Scanner" in Google Play, but couldn't find it.
Where did you download it from? I would like to have a look at it.
@@OBD4Everyone play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ovz.carscanner
Hey Audrius A,
Thanks for the link. I will have a look at it!