I remember my grandfather telling me about the complexity of starting and running those cars. He got his driver's licence in 1914. It was a 6 months course that included bit of automobile engineering and repair skills. A big tool box and some spares were always carried in the car. Two spare tyres, puncture kit and air pump too. Sadly we lost his licence.
Oh man, what a pleasure to watch this. Reminded me of driving a 1937 RR like this on an icy morning and driving it with Windows open. I was so nervous, not my car. But it was a gorgeous sounding smooth engine.
@@D-JMI I have no idea. It was a 1937 RR wedding car and the owner drove some 1927 car, American. Asked me which I wanted to drive , said the rolls because I was even more scared to drive the older car
No you didn't, these came with very comprehensive manuals. But if you had a degree, you were somebody and you wanted a chauffeur. Most importantly you could afford one. Also, degrees were not mass produced like today.
@@nonotherthananother Also, it’s kinda like with anything, once you know how to do it it becomes second nature. Explaining how to use a computer can be super difficult to explain, even a phone. But now to most it’s second nature. I volunteer to teach a 12 week I.T class to adults, and I take it slowly and everything seems complicated to them but by the end it’s straightforward, natural even. 12 Weeks is a long time I know, but maybe that illustrates my point more, it’s not gonna take 12 weeks to learn to start your car, obviously.
Worked for a limousine service that had three '32-'34 RR 's like this one, but they ran a lot smoother. You don't lean the mixture and advance the ignition that much on a cold engine. Cruising 55 you'd advance full and mix depending on engine load. Double de-clutch 1 & 2, 3 & 4 synchronised. Mechanical power brakes. Slide in from the opposite side because gear and handbrake levers are in the way. Loved it!
@@D-JMIWatching your video I re-lived (and shared) the enthusiasm I experienced driving the 20-25 UK model. I may be one of very few people who knows how to drive these beauties but I really don't care wether or not you follow sound advice on how to treat a cold engine. Happy holidays.
@gerardoppewal372 yes, but a 25hp is very different from a Springfield p1in many ways, but I will certainly head your advice on keeping it richer while cold and such , happy holidays to you as well!
I know right? I used to be a flight engineer, and you kind of expect this on a multi engine aircraft, but this is car; and it starts with doing something under the hood like you drive a Jalopy. This is a Rolls Royce?
It seemed exactly the same to me lol, just that the controls are in different places. The 1926 Model T has the throttle and spark advance levers swapped from here (and does not have a foot throttle), the fuel mix is on the choke, and the starting button is on the floor to the left. In fact, our Model T cranks as easily as a modern car. The Rolls in this video took a HECK of a lot of cranking to start it. th-cam.com/video/Ij74EXN_FpM/w-d-xo.html
We have a 1928 P1 ( in the UK ) in our family next year 60 years ownership .The Derby cars of course are reversed , the induction / exhaust system on the left side .The starter motor though sounds identical !.
It sounds like you have a weak cylinder. That consistent little hiccup that happens during cranking is an indication of a bad cylinder. The engine should also idle dead smooth (particularly on a RR product) and it doesn't. It could be a bad or stuck valve, a weak valve spring or the rings are bad. It sounds like it loses almost all cranking compression on that cylinder, so it is probably a bad valve spring or a stuck valve (or possibly a broken rocker arm), if it was the rings you would have more compression while spinning the starter motor. That also assumes that you don't have a hole in the piston.
the hiccup is from the autovac cycling. It is quite normal and usual with autovac systems that use manifold pressure to draw in fuel, There is no problem with valves, pistons or any other components it has under gone compression, leak down and other tests. If you watch the the short of this car doing a coin test, you will see a perfectly running, smooth, running engine.
It's so important to let old cars warm up before you drive them. The oil can be super thick until up to temp and not able to get to where it's needed, plus tolerances were not what they are now, so change a lot with temperature. I spend a good ten minutes letting mine warm up before taking it out.
Just imagining the butlers who needed to know how to do so many things in addition to what is described and do it with excellence every day all the time in service of their masters.
my old luxury car had the feature of having most of this stuff being automated. it even has an automatic choke. but you still have to fiddle with the gas pedal like any old car, i couldn't figure out most of this stuff if i had all the time in the world
No, you don't have to fiddle with the gas on any old car. If it's like this, something is'nt in perfect condition normaly. Have an 83 Audi with 5 cyl. engine and fully automated carb. You just need to turn the key and it's running after 1-3 seconds if the float chamber is'nt dry.
Ok. So now it’s running. What do you do to actually drive it? I love old cars, and collect them. I came close to buying a Ford Model T roadster once. But, it was fairly complicated to start and drive. I passed on it.
Well…no car thief will nab that!….not with that starting process that locomotive…whoops!…car requires…Imagine back in the day trying to get that up and at ‘em on a cold, frosty morning in winter…
Wow! The Rolls makes my 1928 Pontiac seem like it has push-button start. I'm disappointed that my start up procedure is so simple. I guess GM had to do that because a Pontiac wasn't chauffer driven. I don't even have advance/retard, it's automatic! All that and 40 hp! : )
Well when they took over the development of the Whittle jet engine, the famous saying was that it simply sucks along like a hoover vacuum cleaner with only a few moving parts, but we're going to over engineer the hell out of this thing and the rest is history
@@D-JMI Rolls Royce actually improved the original Whittle from counter flow combustion cans and a limited one sided centrifugal compressor to eventually a annular combustion chamber and a double sided compressor. Then Allison got to play with the design.
I remember my grandfather telling me about the complexity of starting and running those cars. He got his driver's licence in 1914. It was a 6 months course that included bit of automobile engineering and repair skills. A big tool box and some spares were always carried in the car. Two spare tyres, puncture kit and air pump too. Sadly we lost his licence.
It wasn't unusual to get spare parts with a new Car
Rolls-Royce does not break down they fail to proceed
@ttm2609 yes
They last forever.
😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😆😆
Finally, I know how to start my antique Rolls Royce properly. Best 4 minutes of my life.
@@bhanson4917 rsrsrsrs
"Oh, it is just like starting my Spitfire!" -British WWII pilots
😂😂
They are all dead.
Just need someone to yell : "ignition" !
@@BruselskySluzebnikwow really? Great contribution
Oh man, what a pleasure to watch this. Reminded me of driving a 1937 RR like this on an icy morning and driving it with Windows open. I was so nervous, not my car. But it was a gorgeous sounding smooth engine.
What model was it Phantom 3, 25/30?
@@D-JMI I have no idea. It was a 1937 RR wedding car and the owner drove some 1927 car, American. Asked me which I wanted to drive , said the rolls because I was even more scared to drive the older car
This is why they had chauffeurs. You need a degree to get the damned thing going.
No you didn't, these came with very comprehensive manuals.
But if you had a degree, you were somebody and you wanted a chauffeur. Most importantly you could afford one. Also, degrees were not mass produced like today.
@@nonotherthananother Also, it’s kinda like with anything, once you know how to do it it becomes second nature. Explaining how to use a computer can be super difficult to explain, even a phone. But now to most it’s second nature. I volunteer to teach a 12 week I.T class to adults, and I take it slowly and everything seems complicated to them but by the end it’s straightforward, natural even.
12 Weeks is a long time I know, but maybe that illustrates my point more, it’s not gonna take 12 weeks to learn to start your car, obviously.
After a few times, this becomes second nature. 🙄
@@nonotherthananotheryou must be real fun at parties..ugh
Indeed!
Worked for a limousine service that had three '32-'34 RR 's like this one, but they ran a lot smoother. You don't lean the mixture and advance the ignition that much on a cold engine. Cruising 55 you'd advance full and mix depending on engine load. Double de-clutch 1 & 2, 3 & 4 synchronised. Mechanical power brakes. Slide in from the opposite side because gear and handbrake levers are in the way. Loved it!
Springfield cars have a 3 Springfield gearbox non-sycro and are left-handed drive, so how or why would I follow that advice?
@@D-JMIWatching your video I re-lived (and shared) the enthusiasm I experienced driving the 20-25 UK model. I may be one of very few people who knows how to drive these beauties but I really don't care wether or not you follow sound advice on how to treat a cold engine. Happy holidays.
@gerardoppewal372 yes, but a 25hp is very different from a Springfield p1in many ways, but I will certainly head your advice on keeping it richer while cold and such , happy holidays to you as well!
You might want to check the flaps and rudder before flight! 😉
I know right? I used to be a flight engineer, and you kind of expect this on a multi engine aircraft, but this is car; and it starts with doing something under the hood like you drive a Jalopy. This is a Rolls Royce?
I m starting engine on a 64000 KW ship with a click of a mouse. I stop the main engines on the same ship again with another mouse click.😂😂😂😂😂
I don't have any mice that smart here, but I'll keep looking
@@D-JMI xDD
Honestly like the look of that switch panel. Reminds me of those in army trucks for the lights.
The 20s was early in car development. This was super advanced and very easy to start. Try to start a model t and then come back to this
It seemed exactly the same to me lol, just that the controls are in different places.
The 1926 Model T has the throttle and spark advance levers swapped from here (and does not have a foot throttle), the fuel mix is on the choke, and the starting button is on the floor to the left.
In fact, our Model T cranks as easily as a modern car. The Rolls in this video took a HECK of a lot of cranking to start it. th-cam.com/video/Ij74EXN_FpM/w-d-xo.html
We have a 1928 P1 ( in the UK ) in our family next year 60 years ownership .The Derby cars of course are reversed , the induction / exhaust system on the left side .The starter motor though sounds identical !.
It is always good to hear about people staying involved with these cars
What a beautiful piece of engineering and history
It's like starting an old airplane!
Thank you so much. "Saudades" the time I was mechanic!. Greetings from Brazil.
This made me so grateful for computers doing all the work when I start my car in the morning.
yeah until there's an AI Invasion!
Oh Jeeves, take me to the supermarket please? Imagine that as your daily runner. Pretty cool.
That is the most amazing piece of kit. It's basically like a Hondata ECU but with mechanicals
Oh the procedure! It's like starting a jet? Everything is separated out. Marvellous.
I say; That would slow down the boy racers?
Imagine doing a Le Mans style race start with these.
Give me a dam FORD! I would have not have time for all the HULLABALLOO, just to start the thing!
Love the oil gauge. LBS PER "
They should have these back in production. People would love it.
It sounds like you have a weak cylinder. That consistent little hiccup that happens during cranking is an indication of a bad cylinder. The engine should also idle dead smooth (particularly on a RR product) and it doesn't. It could be a bad or stuck valve, a weak valve spring or the rings are bad. It sounds like it loses almost all cranking compression on that cylinder, so it is probably a bad valve spring or a stuck valve (or possibly a broken rocker arm), if it was the rings you would have more compression while spinning the starter motor. That also assumes that you don't have a hole in the piston.
the hiccup is from the autovac cycling. It is quite normal and usual with autovac systems that use manifold pressure to draw in fuel, There is no problem with valves, pistons or any other components it has under gone compression, leak down and other tests. If you watch the the short of this car doing a coin test, you will see a perfectly running, smooth, running engine.
I think early cars and airplanes were very similar to start.
Seems pretty simple :-) seriously, thank you, been with cars all my life, had no idea it would have all these.
It's so important to let old cars warm up before you drive them. The oil can be super thick until up to temp and not able to get to where it's needed, plus tolerances were not what they are now, so change a lot with temperature. I spend a good ten minutes letting mine warm up before taking it out.
Thanks for such an interesting video. I wouldn't have a clue how to start that prior to watching this 😅
That's probably one of the cars my father worked on, way back when.
@@ttm2609 Nope, 77. My dad was a late starter, born in 1903. Did the upholstery.
Great video! Thank you for sharing.
Just imagining the butlers who needed to know how to do so many things in addition to what is described and do it with excellence every day all the time in service of their masters.
We are absolutely spoiled by modern cars. Most people completely disrespect the engineering and evolution that went into it.
Does that have CarPlay?
VERY interesting. I never had a chance to do all this. Even my first car had an automatic choke.
There might be 10 people on the planet that needs to know this....
Well! We will be sure to have a party and NOT Invite You!😢😮, so there!😅
What's the compression like on all cylinders? It sounded a bit uneven during the starting.
That's a work of art!
Starter sounds sicker than a Ford flathead
The engine controls seem similar to those for WWII and earlier aircraft.
Now this here is your turbo encabulator lever
Excellent 👏🏻👏🏻
wowser, and i thought hand cranking my moms austin cambridge was complicated.
ty.
When I saw this I thought he was starting a airplane hope whoever has a car like this don't have a senior moment
my old luxury car had the feature of having most of this stuff being automated.
it even has an automatic choke.
but you still have to fiddle with the gas pedal like any old car,
i couldn't figure out most of this stuff if i had all the time in the world
@James-ej7wz yes I remember those up until the 1980s I think?things have changed
No, you don't have to fiddle with the gas on any old car. If it's like this, something is'nt in perfect condition normaly.
Have an 83 Audi with 5 cyl. engine and fully automated carb.
You just need to turn the key and it's running after 1-3 seconds if the float chamber is'nt dry.
Don’t need to go under the hood to adjust that valve again ?
The first cars were truly contraptions
Same procedure to starting my old 87 audi 5000 turbo :p except i had to pour a bucket of water on the engine for it to start haha
Probably why there were probably few DUIs back then 😊
@@davsaltego I think it was not taken as a serious manner back then
Believe me, they all break down!!
Ok. So now it’s running. What do you do to actually drive it? I love old cars, and collect them. I came close to buying a Ford Model T roadster once. But, it was fairly complicated to start and drive. I passed on it.
I have plenty of videos on my channel showing diving these cars
No wonder they had a little man to drive it. Put him in a uniform with hat and gloves adds a nice touch.
Fantastic. Fascinating
Thanks for your sharing
Fascinating!
Can you start it by hand , no battry ?
Cars that had magnetos such as earlier ghosts and their British counter parts, yes, but dual distributors had to have a battery
Does the gas pedal overrule the hand throttle?
@@gargoyle7863 yes
The hand throttle is working like the fast idle cam on a car with an automatic choke. The hand throttle sets the idle speed.
British simplicity.
Very cool!
23degress to be exact
1:57 Basically an old F1 steering wheel 😂
The money shot is at 4:57.
It's like starting a damn air plane.
What is funny about the rolls-royce's and jaguars was if you turn those two switches in the right position you did not need the ignition key 🗝️.
Just like early Supermarine Spitfire with Merlin engine!
Radiator shutters!
But of course
Better not stall at the lights.
I think I can apply some elements of this to my fiat 500 of 2020.
Just gonna pop over to sev for some nachos and a soda. Be back in a few hours.
Well…no car thief will nab that!….not with that starting process that locomotive…whoops!…car requires…Imagine back in the day trying to get that up and at ‘em on a cold, frosty morning in winter…
Interesting video. Please video in landscape in future. It's far better for video's.
I will keep that in consideration usually I use a gopro, but sometimes the phone if it is handy
Those insta360s are perfect for this.
Record everything, be the camera man _after_ filming.
F-16C Block 50 is simpler to start. Faster too!
Dang, it sounds like a ship diesel when it starts 😅
NASA style launch.....😊
Isso é como dar partida em um avião 😮😮😮😮
@joseruyborgesribeiro6089 sorry in English please
@ This is like starting a plane
What a fuckin beaut !! The noise 😌
Wow! The Rolls makes my 1928 Pontiac seem like it has push-button start. I'm disappointed that my start up procedure is so simple. I guess GM had to do that because a Pontiac wasn't chauffer driven. I don't even have advance/retard, it's automatic! All that and 40 hp! : )
Well when they took over the development of the Whittle jet engine, the famous saying was that it simply sucks along like a hoover vacuum cleaner with only a few moving parts, but we're going to over engineer the hell out of this thing and the rest is history
@@D-JMI Rolls Royce actually improved the original Whittle from counter flow combustion cans and a limited one sided centrifugal compressor to eventually a annular combustion chamber and a double sided compressor. Then Allison got to play with the design.
Jeez, like starting an airplane.
Just in case you run across a Springfield Phantom One and nobody else is around to start it but you.
exactly
My chauffeur would always crank the engine until oil pressure rose. Then start.
@barrybarry6592 well your chauffeur was a wise person. I wonder if Rolls-Royce Chauffeur school taught that?
@D-JMI I believe it was via Jack Barclay from memory, who also collected the vehicle for service
Vibration is significan. Isn"t it ?
It's a well-balanced 6 cylinder engine and runs very smoothly.
Where they used beautiful brass and chrome back then they now use plastic.
It seems more complicated than starting a jet.
The size of his feet and shoes!
101/2
Go start the car. Ok, I’ll be back in an hour.
Give me 10 minutes!
Сразу заметив связь с самолетами)
anyone else notice that these machines often get handled by people with dad socks
No mom socks allowed
Moc se tomu nechce.
look like B-29 cockpit
...
My car has a button.
my chauffeur takes care of all of that, really, i have more important things to attend to
The steering wheel would kill you in a 5 mph collision.
you're not supposed to crash
Lbs. Per centimeter squared
square inch
É como dar partida em um avião
Wel... Get on with it already! Talk talk talk...
A carrot for the old Drysdale Horse would have been quicker.
So you need a masters degree in engineering to drive a Springfield RR.
The owner are supposed to do a checklits like in a plane ?. Pure caracter indeded.
Battery seems poor.
@@misscrabstick I can't afford a rich one.😉
@@D-JMI What years your car? My best guess would be around early 30's, I did a lot of work on a 20/25 Cooper bodied car some years ago.
That one is a 1927, Cooper bodies are very rare, restored a Cooper P3 convertible years ago
Im so sure that wont start, its like vgg but not at all..
Mate, how slow is your explanation,
Ахренеть !!!!!!!!!!
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