I certainly can't take all the credit for this film - Neville Davies at the Preston MRC shot it back in the early 1990's and I put it together with the music.
What memories I got from watching this video. The comments made by Trainbum made me think that we were possibly neighbours as i too used to go to sleep and wake up to the sounds of these magnificent steam giants .Living adjacent to Bulawayo station in the 60's we used to walk along the tracks to school, very often alongside the locos taking in the sounds and smells as we walked through the steam and smoke eminating from these wonderful machines. Long live the memories of the steam era !!
The major disadvantage, however, is that its tractive weight reduces as the water is used from the tanks, which led to problems. One severe constraint with the Garratt loco was that if the train hauled by it gets stalled inside a tunnel, the crew may get trapped, as no escape route will be available backwards or front past the sizzling cylinders. A normal engine has a hot cylinder only at one end, providing an escape route through the other.
When I hear music on a railway video my normal reaction is to immediately turn off. Not on this occasion, the music only adds to the excellence of seeing the wonderful Garretts. Many thanks for posting.
Yes, the Garratts in Zimbabwe were amazing. I managed to photograph quite a few back in the 1970s when I made 2 visits. I am publishing many of my steam adventures at steam train stories. Just type it into Google and you will find them!
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is a 1960's era song imported to the US from Rhodesia - only this version is being sung by the people who originated it. Add in the Garratt efficiency locomotives and this is one neat presentation. The Garratt locomotives are still in use because their tractive capabilities are greater than modern diesel, and they average seventy to one hundred years old. Proof that if you do something right you don't have to do it over.
No. Not better than Dieselocomotives. They already have the Garrett locomotives and willikely use them until worn out. Then buy the morefficient dieselocomotives, whichave much lowerepair/maintenance co$ts.
Barbara , you indeed telling the truth , one can only shed tears of an african pain over the broken dreams of new birth of a nation called Zimbabwe.We grew up in the 70s and can account the history of the RR and how this network was managed.Today the railways.are in a state of neglect , disrepair , abandoned , looted , poor economic value and national malaise in every respect, to mention.Cry the beloved nation.
I grew up with steam train around me, back in Southern Rhodesia and Zimbabwe. I wrote about a Zimbabwean steam train in my book, Sam Edward the Steam Train, Lulu Press Ltd.
They took the same concept of articulating the driving wheelbase to let larger locomotives negotiate larger turns. The Challengers and Big Boys were built much later and were much more powerful. They also had one tender as opposed to two on both sides of the boilers like the Garratts.
"The lion sleeps tonight" this one covered by unknown artist, the original was from 1939 by Solomon Linda, South African Zulu. Most famous version was by "The Tokens" in 1961. Current famous versions are done by “Soweto string quartet” and “Ladysmith Black Mambazo” and the Disney movie “lion King”
These locomotives are very interesting. The position of driving wheels and that sloping hood on the front alone is weird. Who made these things. There very unique.
It is not in reference to the locomotives nor did they engage in slave trading. Africa did not have railroads at the time of slave trade nor did the Beyer-Garratts exist. The song is about Shaka, Warrior King of the Zulus, along the lines of the mythical European sleeping king in the mountain: Shaka the Lion, who heroically resisted the armies of the European colonizers, is supposed not to be dead but only sleeping and will one day awaken and return to lead his oppressed people to freedom.
Yup, i recall that being the case. Railway Magazine ran an undercover report from another area recently,one running diesel, but it was fascinating nonetheless(the platform was apparently littered with Z$ and the staff insisted on receiving US$ for the service!)
Its worth noting that these tocomotives are on a 3ft guage as well, I do wonder how a full scale garrat would compare with a challenger. Also a problem with the tender arrangement is that as the locomotive consumes fuel its tractive effort decreases since there's less weight on the wheels. Other articulated steam locomotive types I know of are shays and fairlies.
True, the articulation allowed for greater speed on curves as the water in the front tank dropped so did tractive effort this was solved by by coupling a water tender directly behind the loco.
Great video, thank you. Yes they were/ are predominantly Beyer Peacock manufactured locomotives...Altho I believe they had/ have some on loan from SAR , but reliability I can only guess is below par.
When I was at Milton Junior in the nineteen forties friends and I on our bicycles used to play chicken with these locos at the 12Av level crossing just after Oak Av !
I always liked these locomotives. I want a model, but the track gauge is an issue.(I'm HO standard 56.5" gauge). Might have to regauge a model. Excellent video. ♡ T.E.N.
HOn42 ( NG version used in Australia and NZ); also On42, 1:48 And Sn42 ( using HO running gear) 1:64. Definitely a scratch building effort. DocAV Australia
Great Video, not too keen on the music as it drowns out the sound of the loco. That aside, I'm glad some people have the passion and foresight to record these African locos. Several different types of Beyer-Garratt locos ran here in Australia. The West Australian, Queensland and South Australian Garratt's are very similar to the African Garratt's as they run on the metre gauge track. New South Wales Government Railways ran the AD60 Garratt designed for the Standard Gauge track. AD60 number 6029 has just been restored to beautiful and truly amazing working condition by the ACT division of the Australian Railway Historical Society (check out the You Tube Vids of 6029). The Garratt's are extremely powerful locomotives that could pull an enormous loads, the wheel base spread the weight of the loco over the length of rail so less weight was placed on each wheel to track. As the track loading was significantly reduced it allowed them on occasion to run (carefully) on light branch line tracks. Sad to see some (people?) think they are ugly, anyone who has seen and heard these locos running would develop a very different opinion. Thanks for the great video.
Those are static, it seems. There is a running 0-6-0 in St Jacobs, outside of Kitchener , Ontario, Canada. My friend owns the Loco. Hes working on a smaller Teakettle of a thing, a Porter.
Google "NSW AD-60 Garratt" - the New South Wales Government Railways ran Beyer-Garratts on standard gauge - reputedly one of the most powerful locomotives in the Southern Hemisphere.
JBofBrisbane Info the GL 20 class on 3ft 6 inch gauge has a Tractive Effort of 89,000 lb. the East African railway also on narrow gauge 59 class is at 83,000 lbf The NSW Garrett on standard gauge was only 59,500 later raised to 63,000 lbf. So they were a long way off being the most powerful in Southern Hemisphere
Neat music! Prefer to hear the locomotive sounds not covered by the music. Why the two wheels under the smoke stack? More weight on drive wheels means more traction.
since the geography was so large they used lighter gauge rail to save on cost per mile. The design of the locomotive and its wheel arrangement was to spread the weight on the light rail
The 4-6-2 wheel arrangement was the best arrangement for maximum power and speed with the lightest axle load on light tracks and also kept the wear down more wheels would have increased hammer blow and weight ( remember the garrets were express passenger and freight engines )
does everyone know that in this song "the lion" was a referance to these locomotives? They would engage in taking natives and shipping them to the ports so they could be moved to America as slaves.
This Idiots at 1:50 running for their lives in front of the loco. No respect for the danger, at 3:30 too. I hope, the railfans are still alive. Nice video with dreammusic!
Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you, but this is the first time I saw your question about a Garrett locomotive. The primary advantage of the Garrett is it's basically running two locomotives with one crew. Also, it is easier on lighter rail than a standard articulated steam locomotive and apparently it can traverse tighter curves.
I hear the good news that the people are now raiding these steam locomotive machines & hauling them off in parts to sell on the black market! That sounds very good to me! Junk all the remaining steam locomotives! Cut them apart & melt them down!
Rhodesia was the jewel. Pity Mugabe was born & allowed to destroy a great country. Dreamed of the Garratt Engines last night so looked for them Thanks for a great video
No just appreciative of what was achieved by men of vision. I also happen to love trains though the Garratt wasn't the best of the best I certainly didn't appreciate what the native blacks of this land did to the cattle left behind by the white farmers Seems many countries can't function without a strong dictator. I do believe in freedom for all men. I was a marcher for Steve Biko & you implying I didn't want the blacks to have their land is ridiculous How about we all leave the countries the white man has invaded & let "them" have their land back. Where will you go?
@@sick9990101 Zimbabwe was the jewel in the crown of southern Africa, a wonderful country very productive and with an excellent infrastructure. I use my real name when replying as does Barbara? if someone is going to make a rude reply, please do not hide behind something like sick99. The Beyer Garretts are wonderful locomotives very much suited to the narrow gauge of Africa 3'6inches lines The Articlated design of the Garrett allowed it have the pulling power of two engines with the crew of one, the double articulation along with the steering bogies allowed for greater speed on curves, and that what this video shows off well. By the way, Mugabe did start off well introducing of primary school education for everyone, but as we know things went sour and corruption reigned. I actively campaigned for independence in the 1960/70's and my late brother was one of the 1st contract teachers to work in Zimbabwe. What went wrong? I saw the film on Gandi in Harawe in 1982, Gandi said, its better to be ruled badly by ourselves, than well by strangers. I believed this for years, but now in my 60's, I wonder if the mothers of children who later starved would have chosen Smith over Mugabe if that meant feeding her child? would the families of the Matabele slaughtered by the Korean trained Red Brigade, preferred Smith? Education is (almost) everything, cultures is another major factor, in industry a workplace culture is put in place to ensure employees work in a desired manner, profit sharing schemes make employees shareholders too, with obvious benefits to employers. Culture is a difficult concept. and one very difficult to change and culture changes happen only very slowly. Back in the day towards the end of UDI Thatcher (and I was never a fan) was later on the verge of recognizing Bishop Abel Muzorwa and Canaan Bana UANC but was dissuaded by Australia and New Zealand at a commonwealth conference, as it precluded ZANU and ZAPU. I wonder now, had this happened how things might have changed more peacefully and although a transition to majority rule many taken a little longer would Zimbabwe still have be the jewel in the crown? UDI of course although wrong, caused Harold Wilson's government to blockade oil imports to Zimbabwe had a positive effect on the Garretts as the supply of coal was not effected and they steamed on.
Nope, ride bicycles, the rich ones. They don't have there own currency anymore and thus have no means to TAX income. Many more people are now suffering because they used to sell food on the trains, no more trains.
Absolute piece of junk, cost the lives of many a Western Australian Driver and Fireman. To such an extent the whole state Rail system was brought to a halt with the biggest strike action the state ever saw, and has seen since. The drivers flatly refused to drive them as they kept jumping of the tracks and killing the workers during such derailments. The Africans are more then welcome to them.
No mate,Australia had but a hand full of Garratts and the rest of the world had hundreds,yet Australia suffered the highest accident rate.Australia's poor track work,unskilled engineers and lack of maintenance is what caused the deaths of crews
The Garrats concerned in Accidents, Derails, etc were the Ill-conceived WWII ASG engines, designed by a committee with no experience of either Garratts or Narrow Gauge working! During WWII, as Britain couldn't supply because of Wartime Exigencies...the ASGs were sent to NG states of Qld, WA, and SA and? TAS. Tasmania already had Garratt experience ( K1 0440, and a later a 2442.) The ASGs spread turnouts, curves in yards, dropped driving Wheels, and other problems. Funnily enough, after WWII ASG fiasco, Qld and SA bought Beyer-Garrat and Franco Belge Garratts, and NSW bought the Heavy AD60s for Coal Traffic and Heavy Freight. They lasted from 1950s till end of steam, with Good Results! One Qld, BG and one AD60 are in Running Condition, and another AD60 is supposedly under restoration? Back in late 1960s, I saw a BG13-1/4 with a 30 car Cattle Train on the main Ipswich to Brisbane line, doing what could be considered at the time, Express Train Speed. Their Syncopated Smokestack beat announced their arrival well before coming into view between the Suburban Houses. Those were the days! ( of my Youth) I lived across a large Park from the Main Line ( on a 20ft.high embankment...)
I'm sorry, but hat Garratt train looks like something straight out of a nightmare like in a one way trip to silent hill. Ugly piece of junk. The only reason that twisted anomaly of engineering is still chuggg is because no junkyard will accept it.
On the contrary, I had my first Lionel train set in 1958. I also worked for Chessie Rail system as a technician. But that anomaly of twisted human ingenuity Garrett train-if the devil ever had a baby carriage, that would be it. Yes, I hate that train enough to derail it.
Some of these have come to My Country! New Zealand! We have 3!
Yes they are currently on a siding in Mercer, waiting for restoration hopefully.
What memories I got from watching this video. The comments made by Trainbum made me think that we were possibly neighbours as i too used to go to sleep and wake up to the sounds of these magnificent steam giants .Living adjacent to Bulawayo station in the 60's we used to walk along the tracks to school, very often alongside the locos taking in the sounds and smells as we walked through the steam and smoke eminating from these wonderful machines. Long live the memories of the steam era !!
BEAUTIFUL!!! DELICIOUSLY BEAUTIFUL!!! THE GOOD OLD DAYS, NOW IN UTTER RUINS!!! 🍁🇨🇦.
The major disadvantage, however, is that its tractive weight reduces as the water is used from the tanks, which led to problems. One severe constraint with the Garratt loco was that if the train hauled by it gets stalled inside a tunnel, the crew may get trapped, as no escape route will be available backwards or front past the sizzling cylinders. A normal engine has a hot cylinder only at one end, providing an escape route through the other.
When I hear music on a railway video my normal reaction is to immediately turn off. Not on this occasion, the music only adds to the excellence of seeing the wonderful Garretts. Many thanks for posting.
Yes, the Garratts in Zimbabwe were amazing. I managed to photograph quite a few back in the 1970s when I made 2 visits. I am publishing many of my steam adventures at steam train stories. Just type it into Google and you will find them!
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is a 1960's era song imported to the US from Rhodesia - only this version is being sung by the people who originated it. Add in the Garratt efficiency locomotives and this is one neat presentation. The Garratt locomotives are still in use because their tractive capabilities are greater than modern diesel, and they average seventy to one hundred years old. Proof that if you do something right you don't have to do it over.
No. Not better than Dieselocomotives. They already have the Garrett locomotives and willikely use them until worn out.
Then buy the morefficient dieselocomotives, whichave much lowerepair/maintenance co$ts.
Barbara , you indeed telling the truth , one can only shed tears of an african pain over the broken dreams of new birth of a nation called Zimbabwe.We grew up in the 70s and can account the history of the RR and how this network was managed.Today the railways.are in a state of neglect , disrepair , abandoned , looted , poor economic value and national malaise in every respect, to mention.Cry the beloved nation.
I grew up with steam train around me, back in Southern Rhodesia and Zimbabwe. I wrote about a Zimbabwean steam train in my book, Sam Edward the Steam Train, Lulu Press Ltd.
I have never heard the "lion sleeps tonite" sung this way and I love it!!
Very impressing steam locos - very nice version of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" (Mbube), too.
They took the same concept of articulating the driving wheelbase to let larger locomotives negotiate larger turns. The Challengers and Big Boys were built much later and were much more powerful. They also had one tender as opposed to two on both sides of the boilers like the Garratts.
Such neat looking locomotives.
Fantastic locos and what fantastic singing. I loved it
Thanks for the chance to see that. I wonder what has happened to them since.
"The lion sleeps tonight" this one covered by unknown artist, the original was from 1939 by Solomon Linda, South African Zulu.
Most famous version was by "The Tokens" in 1961. Current famous versions are done by “Soweto string quartet” and “Ladysmith Black Mambazo” and the Disney movie “lion King”
A very very nice video. Beautiful engines and the African music is fitting to the movie, too. Thumbs up from Germany! :)
used to be one of these in coatbridge near glasgow,there brought it back from SA as it was built in glasgow springburn locomotive works.
These locomotives are very interesting. The position of driving wheels and that sloping hood on the front alone is weird. Who made these things. There very unique.
It is not in reference to the locomotives nor did they engage in slave trading. Africa did not have railroads at the time of slave trade nor did the Beyer-Garratts exist. The song is about Shaka, Warrior King of the Zulus, along the lines of the mythical European sleeping king in the mountain: Shaka the Lion, who heroically resisted the armies of the European colonizers, is supposed not to be dead but only sleeping and will one day awaken and return to lead his oppressed people to freedom.
Yup, i recall that being the case. Railway Magazine ran an undercover report from another area recently,one running diesel, but it was fascinating nonetheless(the platform was apparently littered with Z$ and the staff insisted on receiving US$ for the service!)
an Australian train group is restoring one to return it to regular service.
Its worth noting that these tocomotives are on a 3ft guage as well, I do wonder how a full scale garrat would compare with a challenger.
Also a problem with the tender arrangement is that as the locomotive consumes fuel its tractive effort decreases since there's less weight on the wheels.
Other articulated steam locomotive types I know of are shays and fairlies.
True, the articulation allowed for greater speed on curves as the water in the front tank dropped so did tractive effort this was solved by by coupling a water tender directly behind the loco.
Great video, thank you. Yes they were/ are predominantly Beyer Peacock manufactured locomotives...Altho I believe they had/ have some on loan from SAR , but reliability I can only guess is below par.
It's a beautiful video.
When I was at Milton Junior in the nineteen forties friends and I on our bicycles used to play chicken with these locos at the 12Av level crossing just after Oak Av !
We had Garrats in Kalgoorlie Western Australia. I like them. They are unusual.
Pity that it is such a dangerous place to visit!
Fantastic. Gustavo (Brazil)
good video,,wonder if they still youse them,,
Power of a large locomotive but capable of negotiating tight curves.
Childhood video.
I always liked these locomotives. I want a model, but the track gauge is an issue.(I'm HO standard 56.5" gauge). Might have to regauge a model. Excellent video. ♡ T.E.N.
HOn42 ( NG version used in Australia and NZ); also On42, 1:48
And Sn42 ( using HO running gear) 1:64.
Definitely a scratch building effort.
DocAV Australia
Great Video, not too keen on the music as it drowns out the sound of the loco. That aside, I'm glad some people have the passion and foresight to record these African locos. Several different types of Beyer-Garratt locos ran here in Australia. The West Australian, Queensland and South Australian Garratt's are very similar to the African Garratt's as they run on the metre gauge track. New South Wales Government Railways ran the AD60 Garratt designed for the Standard Gauge track. AD60 number 6029 has just been restored to beautiful and truly amazing working condition by the ACT division of the Australian Railway Historical Society (check out the You Tube Vids of 6029). The Garratt's are extremely powerful locomotives that could pull an enormous loads, the wheel base spread the weight of the loco over the length of rail so less weight was placed on each wheel to track. As the track loading was significantly reduced it allowed them on occasion to run (carefully) on light branch line tracks.
Sad to see some (people?) think they are ugly, anyone who has seen and heard these locos running would develop a very different opinion.
Thanks for the great video.
thanks and I did google...they even manufactured smaller models that I'd not seen before...
Too bad that it is too dangerous to go and see these wonderful old Locos. Maybe they are all gone by now anyway!
we were in Broken hill for awhile
EXCELLENT
Those are static, it seems. There is a running 0-6-0 in St Jacobs, outside of Kitchener , Ontario, Canada. My friend owns the Loco. Hes working on a smaller Teakettle of a thing, a Porter.
Lovely film and music tem. How is her title and singers name? thanks.
what thissong of video is beatiful
what configuration is that
Google "NSW AD-60 Garratt" - the New South Wales Government Railways ran Beyer-Garratts on standard gauge - reputedly one of the most powerful locomotives in the Southern Hemisphere.
JBofBrisbane Info the GL 20 class on 3ft 6 inch gauge has a Tractive Effort of 89,000 lb. the East African railway also on narrow gauge 59 class is at 83,000 lbf The NSW Garrett on standard gauge was only 59,500 later raised to 63,000 lbf. So they were a long way off being the most powerful in Southern Hemisphere
Great steam trains
I don't understand why the UK did not use this idea two power units worked by one crew , developed by the Beyer Peacock company at Manchester
The design was such that they could negotiate
sharper curves. Plus I think the weight was
dispersed over the drivers giving it much better
traction.
my dad worked for the RR for a while
That country is a huge tragedy I feel sorry for the people
when we moved to Wankie we went on a goods train with 2 or 3 coaches at the back of the train then the train broke down in the middle of no were
Посмотрел с большим удовольствием. Не ожидал, что в Африке до сих пор живут локомотивы Гаррета.
Great video, great music
Regards from Russia
Beyer-Garratt
Did Mallets (and later Challengers and Big Boys) do the same thing that Beyer-Garratts did?
Great music. Name of group?
meet the great man himself Ian Smith
Actually 3' 6" gauge or 1067mm.
are these engines still in service now or have they, like many others, been replaced?
Probably just lying and rusting with chickens inside
is that a rare train?
@steamboy51: 2-8-2+2-8-2: class 16A, 4-6-4+4-6-4: class 15/15A, 4-8-2+2-8-4: class 20/20A.
Don't forget the 6th class 4-8-2 tank locomotive
My surname is Garratt. I wonder if this has any significance to my lineage as I don’t know much about my family history
very interesting locos but I don't understand why they were built...off to google for me then :)
thanks for posting!
That’s a Rhodesia Railways 6th class tank engine @0:16!
Зимбабве больше не придется эти поезда, ничего не имею. Они были, оставленный английском обратный путь до becomming Зимбабве.
Yeah, maybe the music sometimes over rides the engine sound. But this is the time and place, isn't it. Singing a capella - engine - Achoo.
Charles Darwin would have taken a great interest in Mr Mugabe.
Ha ha
Neat music! Prefer to hear the locomotive sounds not covered by the music.
Why the two wheels under the smoke stack? More weight on drive wheels means more traction.
since the geography was so large they used lighter gauge rail to save on cost per mile. The design of the locomotive and its wheel arrangement was to spread the weight on the light rail
The 4-6-2 wheel arrangement was the best arrangement for maximum power and speed with the lightest axle load on light tracks and also kept the wear down more wheels would have increased hammer blow and weight ( remember the garrets were express passenger and freight engines )
garratt #394 is now at steam incorapted paekakriki new zealand being restored and i know that because i work on it on a thursday
Are they still in service?
some of them are!
please, what is name of this music ??? what's name for cerc the mp3 in internet ?
Rafael D. B. Anella : The lion sleeps tonight
does everyone know that in this song "the lion" was a referance to these locomotives? They would engage in taking natives and shipping them to the ports so they could be moved to America as slaves.
This Idiots at 1:50 running for their lives in front of the loco. No respect for the danger, at 3:30 too. I hope, the railfans are still alive. Nice video with dreammusic!
Yup but just because they were invented doesn't mean Africa had them at the time and they didn't.
are they beyer garratts
What is the advantage of a Garratt locomotive?
Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you, but this is the first time I saw your question about a Garrett locomotive. The primary advantage of the Garrett is it's basically running two locomotives with one crew. Also, it is easier on lighter rail than a standard articulated steam locomotive and apparently it can traverse tighter curves.
it looks so narrow 3 feet gauge
Great video -except for the music. I would rather hear the steam engines
EX R.R.
the garratt is absolutely beautiful...
the more dust and grime and dirt on a steamer, the better! she certainly has lots of it!
i strongly agree with you. The being dirty means they are true hard workers.
@Bignadim but that is the african way.
I hear the good news that the people are now raiding these steam locomotive machines & hauling them off in parts to sell on the black market! That sounds very good to me!
Junk all the remaining steam locomotives! Cut them apart & melt them down!
Great film. sadly, badly maintained
This thing should have been cut apart & melted by now!
Why oh why do people put music over steam train videos.
The chuffing is what we want to hear!
most of it was recorded silently
Rhodesia was the jewel. Pity Mugabe was born & allowed to destroy a great country. Dreamed of the Garratt Engines last night so looked for them Thanks for a great video
No just appreciative of what was achieved by men of vision. I also happen to love trains though the Garratt wasn't the best of the best I certainly didn't appreciate what the native blacks of this land did to the cattle left behind by the white farmers Seems many countries can't function without a strong dictator. I do believe in freedom for all men. I was a marcher for Steve Biko & you implying I didn't want the blacks to have their land is ridiculous How about we all leave the countries the white man has invaded & let "them" have their land back. Where will you go?
@@sick9990101 Zimbabwe was the jewel in the crown of southern Africa, a wonderful country very productive and with an excellent infrastructure. I use my real name when replying as does Barbara? if someone is going to make a rude reply, please do not hide behind something like sick99.
The Beyer Garretts are wonderful locomotives very much suited to the narrow gauge of Africa 3'6inches lines The Articlated design of the Garrett allowed it have the pulling power of two engines with the crew of one, the double articulation along with the steering bogies allowed for greater speed on curves, and that what this video shows off well.
By the way, Mugabe did start off well introducing of primary school education for everyone, but as we know things went sour and corruption reigned. I actively campaigned for independence in the 1960/70's and my late brother was one of the 1st contract teachers to work in Zimbabwe.
What went wrong? I saw the film on Gandi in Harawe in 1982, Gandi said, its better to be ruled badly by ourselves, than well by strangers. I believed this for years, but now in my 60's, I wonder if the mothers of children who later starved would have chosen Smith over Mugabe if that meant feeding her child? would the families of the Matabele slaughtered by the Korean trained Red Brigade, preferred Smith?
Education is (almost) everything, cultures is another major factor, in industry a workplace culture is put in place to ensure employees work in a desired manner, profit sharing schemes make employees shareholders too, with obvious benefits to employers. Culture is a difficult concept. and one very difficult to change and culture changes happen only very slowly.
Back in the day towards the end of UDI Thatcher (and I was never a fan) was later on the verge of recognizing Bishop Abel Muzorwa and Canaan Bana UANC but was dissuaded by Australia and New Zealand at a commonwealth conference, as it precluded ZANU and ZAPU. I wonder now, had this happened how things might have changed more peacefully and although a transition to majority rule many taken a little longer would Zimbabwe still have be the jewel in the crown?
UDI of course although wrong, caused Harold Wilson's government to blockade oil imports to Zimbabwe had a positive effect on the Garretts as the supply of coal was not effected and they steamed on.
Nope, ride bicycles, the rich ones. They don't have there own currency anymore and thus have no means to TAX income. Many more people are now suffering because they used to sell food on the trains, no more trains.
Guys i got black ops lobbys from here lol.. - /watch?v=NQtYkMzuGtg
Whoever said that monstrous piece of junk is beautiful must go to bed each night hoping for a nightmare.
What...?
Absolute piece of junk, cost the lives of many a Western Australian Driver and Fireman. To such an extent the whole state Rail system was brought to a halt with the biggest strike action the state ever saw, and has seen since. The drivers flatly refused to drive them as they kept jumping of the tracks and killing the workers during such derailments. The Africans are more then welcome to them.
No mate,Australia had but a hand full of Garratts and the rest of the world had hundreds,yet Australia suffered the highest accident rate.Australia's poor track work,unskilled engineers and lack of maintenance is what caused the deaths of crews
The Garrats concerned in Accidents, Derails, etc were the Ill-conceived WWII ASG engines, designed by a committee with no experience of either Garratts or Narrow Gauge working! During WWII, as Britain couldn't supply because of Wartime Exigencies...the ASGs were sent to NG states of Qld, WA, and SA and? TAS. Tasmania already had Garratt experience ( K1 0440, and a later a 2442.)
The ASGs spread turnouts, curves in yards, dropped driving Wheels, and other problems.
Funnily enough, after WWII ASG fiasco, Qld and SA bought Beyer-Garrat and Franco Belge Garratts, and NSW bought the Heavy AD60s for Coal Traffic and Heavy Freight.
They lasted from 1950s till end of steam, with Good Results! One Qld, BG and one AD60 are in Running Condition, and another AD60 is supposedly under restoration? Back in late 1960s, I saw a BG13-1/4 with a 30 car Cattle Train on the main Ipswich to Brisbane line, doing what could be considered at the time, Express Train Speed. Their Syncopated
Smokestack beat announced their arrival well before coming into view between the Suburban Houses.
Those were the days! ( of my Youth)
I lived across a large Park from the Main Line ( on a 20ft.high embankment...)
I'm sorry, but hat Garratt train looks like something straight out of a nightmare like in a one way trip to silent hill. Ugly piece of junk. The only reason that twisted anomaly of engineering is still chuggg is because no junkyard will accept it.
sounds like you wanted it repainted
Louis Phung Scrapped and melted down is more like it.
Do you have some sort of hate for steam locomotive?
On the contrary, I had my first Lionel train set in 1958. I also worked for Chessie Rail system as a technician. But that anomaly of twisted human ingenuity Garrett train-if the devil ever had a baby carriage, that would be it. Yes, I hate that train enough to derail it.
Alright. Not talking to you