This is my favorite episode yet, guys, and I don’t say that lightly! I’ve been a viewer for a while now, and y’all are a God-send in general, but you perfectly introduced my consistent internal conflict as a Kierkegaardian/Wesleyan between subjectivity and objectivity. I LOVED IT! Keep doing your thing, it just keeps getting better. ♥️
@@TheRemnantRadio Of course, man. If my platform ever grows, I'd love to have y'all on the channel some time. Basement boys and beards of all shapes and sizes are accepted with the fam n' cheese. :D
Disney: For me, I unsubscribed from Disney+. It wasn't the "woke" agenda because, newsflash, sinners sin. They love it. They sell it. They enjoy it. But what took me over the edge was the whole "My child is pansexual" and "Disney needs to be a place where my child feels welcome". Pansexual is not Bisexual. It's defined as opened to all sexual encounters (pan means all) and sexually attracted to everyone. Everyone means everyone, regardless of age, race, or gender. Mind you, the context of this is "my child". More importantly, the debate was sparked over PRE 4th grader's! I don't want my 3rd grader open to sexual activity of any type. I want them NON-sexual. Disney doesn't. Then, coming out and saying 50% of all characters in a Disney movie going forward will be LGBTQ+... Disney is no loner selling entertainment. They're selling sexual identity. That is now their brand. That's a brand I, personally, ain't interested in backing... not when it's marketed to kids.
Pansexual does not mean regardless of age. It strictly has to do with regardless of gender (cisgender, trans etc..) This is free information on the internet. Why are people hellbent on sexualizing the lgbtq community? I don't understand that. There is no extension or room for innocence and that's just sad that automatically it's all about sex and nothing more. Children shouldn't be sexualized regardless of how they identify. It's weird, and if it was the other way around, where it was a "normal" household with father and mother, therefore it's not sexual nor considered an agenda at that point?
I can only go by the definition of "pansexual" by all the online dictionaries. Pan means all. The definition is "Sexually attracted to everyone". And "Open to sexual activity with anyone regardless of gender". "Anyone" "everyone".. Pan means all. All is all. So, YES... this is all about sexual activity with KIDS.
I would also say for parents who feel convicted over certain things they don’t want their children to participate in, give your children an explanation as to why they shouldn’t participate and even present your research and findings to them. Children, and I would say especially teens, want a reason why it’s wrong, and I feel like the pushback would be a lot less if you could give a rational and articulated response so that your children understand the deeper reasons and it’s not just because “it’s demonic”. It might very well be, especially within modern culture, but show them why and explain it to them. Once the kids are grown up, they can do their own research, but I feel like the chances that they will indulge in the material once they leave the house because of rebellion against the “don’t touch” rule would be less likely. Just some thoughts, God bless!
This is 100% spot on. My parents always explained things to me and I never rebelled. My wife on the other hand was raised by "I said so" parents and she rebelled like crazy :(
My personal guideline: if I can imagine Jesus sitting next to me while I watch or read something and if I imagine (according to scripture) he is OK with it, then I can watch it. If not, then I shouldn't.
Why as a Christian would we see how close to the fire we can get without being burned? Especially with music music is a direct path into our soul. God set me free from meth, weed alcohol, adultery, violence, lying, stealing, in 2011 list goes on on and on. I try to keep the atmosphere around me as clean and clear as possible. At work at home etc. Call it legalizm call it what you want but on judgement day you wont be by my side when I'm standing face to face with my Creator. Who paid such a price to pay for my sins.... Past present and future sins! Glory to the King of kings
herniated discs suck... I popped 3 cervical (neck) discs, 4 years ago. Good physiotherapy is worth every penny. My prognosis was initially grim, but God healed me more than the doctors thought possible. Will be praying for your healing Miller!
I grew up in Baptist legalism and I got bitter and denied my Christianity . It took me years like 40 yrs to claim my belief in Christ again and believe I didn’t get saved til about 13 yrs ago in my Assemblies of God church. I’m 55
I'm thinking of not hanging out with a Baptist lady anymore. She only thinks KJV bible is only true one, she believes in OSAS but says she doesn't drink alcohol cuz she's Christian even though Jesus drank, and now she thinks any tv almost is bad.
I love you guys. Excellent way of explaining all of it. I had the spirit of fear so bad and could not watch anything. But now the perfect love of God has cast out all fear. I have a different perspective than others. Thank you!!
I think some people are able to watch certain movies that others can't is because they have become accustomed to that top of a movie and their conscience has become seared. Personally speaking, when I decide what to watch or listen to, I judge it based on Philippians 4:8. As for what I eat or drink, I do my best to treat my body as the temple of the Holy Spirit, of course I fail many times like everyone else.
You guys are awesome! The body needs to be having time to discuss these things together, not in a church event, but as believers doing life together! Branching from that point we are so compartmentalized as supposed to having everything be submitted to Christ and having the habit of putting Christ at the center of everything! I believe that the whole counsel of scripture illuminated by the Holy Spirit and his wisdom will lead us to the law of liberty (James), which is actually a centering our lives on Christ, freedom, not a freedom to do our own will type of freedom that the world worships and that Americans worship. Removing ourselves from our cultural context just as we are meant to do as we seek to study scripture, is not something many Christian’s do, we start from our culture: “can I watch this thing my spirit wants?” VS: “I am meant to become one with God and do the will of the Father just as Jesus did and through Jesus, so does this activity help me become one, does it honor the father? If we are meant to live a lifestyle of losing our life, should not our fun activities honor God? Can I glorify God by watching one of my fav movies, Die Hard? There’s nudity, there’s violence, there’s terrible cursing and coarse joking and more…if I frame my life in terms of honoring God or not, how could I justify watching this? To watch something, I believe, is on some level giving myself to the thing. I am allowing this medium to please me to fulfill something in me. That sounds like a form of worship to me. Also, I do not think we are meant to be exposed to so many ideas all over the place. I think if the physical realm became invisible to us and the spiritual realm be came visible to us so to speak, we would think very differently. But, all that to say I struggle with delighting in the movies and tv shows etc etc and I am sincerely, asking these questions and desiring to reject anything that displeases God in my life. Love to all.
Thank you for sharing this! I’m kind of sad that not more people have said the same sort of thing. How in the world could we watch something like a horror movie or witchcraft. How does that honor God? Couldn’t we find better and more productive things to do with our time? Are we out there sharing the gospel? We could take up a new hobby that actually helps us with our health or a hobby that we can share with others. I just don’t see the place of, all these movies and television shows in our lives as far as building us up in the Lord.
Charisma magazine once did an article debunking the pokemon legalism. It was compelling and personally helped me as a new believer be more discerning concerning Christian legalsim/ fear culture. That being said in my experience , looking at the fruit, most adults I've met who were into pokemon look back on it with nostalgia and fond memories but not a lot of cult like behavior. However, I often see people who were into Harry Potter growing up who are are OBSESSED with it , tattooed with HP symbols, into witchcraft or magic and seems to have more LGBT+ people involved in it than some other groups. Is it the story itself, the culture involved or does it open a door for some people? IDK, but I do think there are not demons of specific pop culture stories or characters. I think there are demons who use ANYTHING they can to harm, stumble, possess or destroy people. Legalistic religion and hedonistic worldliness can both potentially take you down a road away from Father.
This might also have something to do with the imaginary world of Harry Potter being better developed, since Pokemon was made as an episodic advertisement for toys and Harry Potter was actually written to be an engaging book. Also, people love to be able to identify themselves with personality categories. Pokemon and Harry Potter are both avowedly fictional fantasies, but to people who don't recognize God, it's exactly as meaningful as anything else.
Yeah, I haven't looked into it but I was caught off guard with the pokemon stuff. My memory was just that they were creatures like alternative animals and it was a mildly entertaining show as a kid.
Pokémon is based on beetle fighting that children in rural areas in Asia would do for fun. You would go out into Forrest and find the biggest beetle and capture it and then release them in a arena and have them fight. My dad said he would do that as a child.
When it comes to Harry Potter why on earth would we watch and be entertained and enjoy anything that God calls an abomination and that whoever practices these things have thier part in the lake of fire? 🔥🔥🔥 The Bible clearly says "Dont do" sorcery and witchcraft... Why on earth would anyone think the Holy Spirit would be saying "Do" watch it. 😤 Revelation 21:8 [8]But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Micah 5:10-12 10 “In that day,” declares the LORD, “I will destroy your horses from among you and demolish your chariots. 11 I will destroy the cities of your land and tear down all your strongholds. 12 I will destroy your witchcraft and you will no longer cast spells. Why would we support in any way the production of these kinds of films? Why would we spend Gods money to watch witchcraft? Hope this is an eye opener to someone. Be blessed all 🙌
Though I have no problem having a beer with a curry, I would not be able to (in good conscience) have a beer with a brother who has been set free from alcoholism; for that would be putting a stumbling block before him. Likewise, I would not expect the brother who was set free from alcoholism to tell me that I must never drink for it is sinful and worthy of the second death.
You guys are so industrious! Your output is prolific yet remains quality content, I love that. To have regular content means so much, it offers a positive alternative to the tsunami of shallow, ungodly content on TH-cam and your posture of humility and sincere respect for those with other views is very welcome. You guys and Mike Winger and Gavin Ortlund are great blessings to me. Thankyou!
I unfortunately know a lot of Christians - including my own young adult children who don’t mind watching entertainment that is very sinful, sexually immoral, degenerate, and full of foul language. I can’t understand this. God says to hate what he hates and love what he loves. I take that seriously. It actually makes me sorrowful that so many Christian’s aren’t bothered by sin in these shows and can dismiss it so easily. It’s a searing of the conscience. I then hear people say to me that’s my own conviction and they don’t feel that. Can you explain that. Because to me sin is sin and is very well spelled out in the scriptures as we are to abstain from these things. Not because we are better but because it’s a sin against our Heavenly Father.
I used to watch tons of horror flicks, listen to demonic music, messed up stuff online. Here was my messed up reasoning: if it is a reality, we should be able to watch it. Certainly it cannot be a sin to understand the real things that people experience. Wrong! You are right. Eye gate, ear gate. Looking back it was deep spiritual blindness
I agree. There are times I watch a movie and it curses or blamphemes and I’m like,”Father forgive the script writers.” But if it keeps going on and on I turn it off. I used to play GTA before I was saved and I tried to play it again being born again and the Holy Spirit was like nope. And I got rid of it. The game is literally going against the 8th commandment 😂😂 but I still play video games but have gotten/not played some that are just plainly ungodly.
Just abstain from watching with them, tell them why you abstain,and trust God to communicate to them the same convictions He communicated to you, and until then, keep your opinion to yourself. Period. You're not the one to convince them of anything. I'm speaking as if these are adults in your home. If they are adults in your home, you can stop paying for the streaming services. I have more opinions if minors, I'll share if asked.
I grew up with Sailor Moon and Pokémon. God told me to purge the Sailor Moon stuff years ago and I only did so partially. (Last week I finished that purge.) Pokémon? Laughed off any idea of Pokemon being demonic until two weeks ago. The topic kept coming up in unrelated sermons I was listening to over the next two weeks. I decided, if I am going to purge Pokemon, I need a concrete reason for it to be demonic. I prayed and asked God to finally reveal it to me once and for all if it is or is not demonic. That night I was researching until I discovered the “Satan equivalent” Pokémon, Giratina. If there is Giratina, then who is the god Pokémon? The god of all of the Pokemon universe is Arceus. Arceus is designed after the kirin, a chimera, essentially the Japanese equivalent of the unicorn. I made it this far and decided to go to bed because I couldn’t make any connections. As soon as I rolled over, I remembered a fallen angel that first appears as a unicorn. The occult believes this demon “gives excellent familiars.” Dictionary definition of familiar: A spirit often embodied in an animal and held to attend and serve or guard a person. Is that not exactly what Pokémon are? Demons are demons regardless of how cute they are. I’ve played Pokémon for two decades, and on Friday I deleted the app and burned all of it. Rare cards up in flames in the name of Jesus.
Thinking while listening brought this to mind. Many people, possibly some of you, have made an idol of the bible and of theology. Like the pharisees who had no relationship with God, but had a relationship of sorts with scripture and theology. People don't even consider such a thing because it sounds so right to be a person of the word and have accurate theology.
Duuuude. I am a new Christian and have definitely noticed this. Christianity in some circles seems so academic and cerebral. Honestly the thing that brought me to the table were the intellectual arguments/theology but the thing that keeps me around is my relationship with God and joy and peace I have as a result. I literally don’t understand why Christians argue so much amongst each other about theology.
Well, everything may be justified as permissable.. but not everything is profitable to the soul. That is the biblical guidance I live by. Take it all to God and allow Him room to direct/guide /correct/adjust accordingly. All the best
Great episode to walk that fine line of scriptural sin and conviction…. Where we have people draw lines are celebration of Halloween and then witchcraft (Harry Potter/Narnia/LotR). People would say, if it causes your brother to stumble then don’t participate especially if you are a leader but others say then I can’t do anything because I might cause someone to stumble… Thanks!
Mentioning the Monster drink, having grown up in Hispanic Charismaticism, there was a concern about this. I always tell them that its funny they would tell me about this drink while eating at a Chinese buffet, which are usually explicitly idolatrous with statues of their religion and even some places giving offerings in the very restaurant.
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This really spoke to me. My son is 5 and LOVES VR. It's hard not to let him play it because I see him interacting with others, standing up to bullies, defending others, and even telling other kids about God through it! However, when I try to get him to stop he has tantrums that he doesn't have with anything else :(
43:24 I cant! 😂 on a serious note, thank you for addressing these subjects. I grew up in a very conservative Christian home, which I am grateful for, but I have struggled as an adult with discerning between actual conviction and what I was raised to believe was a sin. I have strived to make scripture the ultimate authority concerning these issues while following the Holy Spirit.
I would only say this about the symbolism, predictive programming, occult conspiracy etc. I would be careful speaking on that without deep research. You could very easily alienate individuals who have put the time into deeply researching those fields. Most of them have dealt with being made fun of by family and friends already.
Ironically my AG Bible college wanted me to read the fictional book Faust for a class where it described in detail a ritual with the devil. I felt very uncomfortable and asked to read a different book but I sensed that my professor was pretty judgmental toward me about it.
Perhaps an episode on the harsh realities of practicing witchcraft. It makes me sad that Children get murdered for witchcraft purposes. Some have limbs violently hacked of. Scripture does describe magic as powerful, somewhere it speaks of witches keeping those who should have died, alive, and those who should have stayed alive, making them die before there time. Alternative episode idea, if you want it. Or perhaps interview someone with insight into this topic.
My pastor made a helpful observation while preaching on Romans 14, I think. I can't quote him, but in essence, what he said was that we all immediately assume that the other guy is the weaker brother.
Y’know, after watching your videos for two years and being a Patreon subscriber, I thought to myself: man, RR reaches more people on a weekly than many mega churches. It’s weird because RR has discussed everything about the Gospel but never presented it by itself…Yet! But hey, I can’t wait when one day you preach the Gospel on RR! It’s going to be jam packed with scholarly work, amazing metaphors and be digestible for the laymen. It’s gonna be a the Super Gospel!
Hahaha thanks for your support! Check out our New Perspective video this week, I think we tried to make it pretty clear. But you’re right, we usually don’t do a succinct “Gospel sharing moment,” although it does happen some
Very good discussion! Thank you very much and I must say I was in total agreement with what each of you said concerning the array of issues that we are confronted with as Christians; these confrontations happen nearly daily in this day and age!
Very ‘impressed’ with Josh in his knowledge of Naruto. Respect! I think one thing that may be lost in this discussion is how/what Japanese culture sees as a ‘demon.’ Lost in translation if you will. I believe there is nuance and could change some of the discussion if charity is allowed. BELIEVE IT!
I haven't seen Naruto but I remembered a scene in Princess Mononoke where a character is demonised and he fights against it and resists the urges to act according to it's will. So, there's a demonic entity but a very positive message...
I'm excited to hear a episode covering the full Gospel of Repentance, Baptism, Holy Spirit, and walking and crucified life as a Disciple of Jesus who is the coming King and demands our allegiance to be for His Kingdom only and not for this world.
Since my (one) comment came up in this video, I’d like to add my main point throughout the chat was that “feeling” conviction or the lack thereof is not a measure for sin. Scripture + conviction in tandem should always be used.
I agree with that. But in the gray areas I think we just have to seek the Holy Spirit, which is inevitably more subjective how we interpret…. Anyway…. Since I owe you a comment on the sovereignty stuff from another chat…. My bad for not getting back. Personally, I view things from more of a traditional sovereignty / providence perspective. To me it comes down to primary and secondary causes. A good example of this is the Cross. God was the primary cause of the crucifixion bc He predestined it (Acts 2, 4). But that doesn’t mean that the Holy Spirit filled Judas to force the betrayal. No, Satan did that. Satan, not the Holy Spirit, was empowering those who mocked and spat and nailed Jesus to the tree. So even though God was “over” it all-that’s what it means that He is the primary cause-He did not Himself commit sin. People did-they were the secondary cause. Of course there is an element of mystery in all of this. How does God ordain that sin happens-as Acts 2 and 4 make clear He did with the Cross-without Himself sinning? (Another example is Gen 45 with Joeseph.) We don’t precisely know how, but we know (or at least, I believe) that it’s true. You might think of it like the sun. The Sun only emits light and heat, just as God only emanates glory and goodness. When the sun goes down, however, the outcome is darkness and coldness. Dark and cold are not the “direct product” of the sun, but indirectly, they result from the sun setting. In the same way, God only emanates glory and goodness by His positive agency, but He also moves and acts in such a manner that darkness and evil result. Not as a direct product, but as an indirect one, as it were. Does God want all the evil in the world to be eradicated? Of course. That’s why Jesus came, to deal with it. In the meantime, God allows a bunch of mess until Christ returns to put all enemies under His feet (1 Cor 15). That’s about the best I can do in a brief TH-cam comment! Blessings
@@michaelrowntree2005 Well, if you've got to be a Calvinist, at least you've CHOSEN, (see what I did there?), to be the best kind: an inconsistent one! 😆 (Which means you believe the Bible more than you do Augustine, Calvin, and others), and that's a relief! God bless you, bro
@@michaelrowntree2005 No worries at all on the delayed reply…! I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to think it through and share your thoughts. It’s such a complex topic-and full of mystery like you said. There is definitely holiness in the tension/mystery. The analogy you used with the sun is a very good one, and I agree, this is a very complex topic for YT comments lol. How much does it cost to sponsor an episode of RR? If you guys will consider discussing this topic and the various viewpoints associated with it, I will personally financially sponsor it. (I’m serious). This stuff matters, because what we believe about it has practical implications in regards to how we pray, for example. Anyways, prayerfully consider. Haha. :)
I want to thank you guys for your videos. They are great in this discussion type format. I agree 100% that some things are liberty issues. However sorcery and witchcraft are not in anyway shape or form a liberty issue. We to having children have had these discussions with others brother and sisters in the Lord to see how far is too far with the things of witchcraft and sorcery such has even Micky Mouse. What I realized was we were desperately making excuses to make the Bible fit in today's society verses being willing to allow my self to be shaped by the Bible.
I like where Roundtree was going. If there's clear scriptural support against something, it's for all of us to follow. If there's not scriptural clarity (such as with eating meat) then there's freedom for personal convictions.
Thank you guys! So cool to hear a different charismatic perspective than usual! It would be cool if you guys did a video about if Christians can have demons and why.
We have talked about this a lot. We don't have an episode named "can Christians be possessed" but we do have a demonology playlist. you may find helpful content in there. th-cam.com/play/PLMsjeViSScFGlQJfR8BWdL8cZ46M1SjSZ.html
Guys y'all are killing it! I'm so impressed with your channel and topics. I share your videos all the time too! What I really enjoy is that y'all seem to be so biblically sound/solid and balanced charismatics too! That is so refreshing to me. I am trying to have that mindset too. I love that y'all talk about all these topics and try to bring clarity on differences between commands and personal convictions. I also have been down rabbit holes of conspiracy theories and have heard all the monster/vaccine/ Pokémon ect stuff. The only thing I'd say is that concerning movies with witchcraft like Harry Potter ect ..I do think there is scripture for us to steer clear of entertaining those dark demonic stuff from OT and NT (Deuteronomy/Acts). But I also realize that I have a background in occult/new age and that it's a personal conviction for me to also steer clear of that kind of entertainment. I had to get deliverance as I've shared before and I just want to guard it by not allowing room for the enemy. But I am not legalistic about it ..for example, I visited universal studio last year and rode the Harry Potter rides which we amazingly fun y'all! However, I didn't allow my kids to participate in some of the magic sorcerer stuff. That is what I mean by personal conviction and trying to be balanced. I'm so thankful for your channel and I pray God continues to grow it past 100,000 subs! Lol mine only has 115 subs but trying to not despise small beginnings! Y'all keep it up & y'all keep making me laugh all the time!
Watching sinful activity for pleasure or entertainment is sin. Getting pleasure out of what God hates is sin. Seems to me God is very clear about that. ❤❤
the way my pastor explained demons in objects to me was something like, "oh people seem to like looking at this thing, I'm gonna hang out here so they look at me and maybe I'll find a way in"
Good show. You are correct: regarding these gray area issues, it's the attitude of the heart that counts. And that's not for us to judge and make legalistic rules about (1 Samuel 16:7).
We lose a lot of brothers and sisters because of this too ..As always, another topic not talked about enough. I grew up in a church that condemned things other denominations allowed in their churches, and also with constantly being told you have to stop doing this or that, and struggled for a long time as a new believer and when I found passages like the ones mentioned where Paul talks about not condemning others,especially new believers, and I would ask, I would be told not to. I could give many examples but in trying to keep this short, I wish I could talk to everyone I grew up with and say this stuff to, but as I said, it is very discouraged in our churches and that is not right, and another reason why I love your content and pray that these discussions reach the right ears. Basically, I left the church but thank God HE didn't leave me. A lot of believers are turned away from the faith because of these actions. Be blessed.
It was difficult to finish this video. How can anyone claim that their wife, who discerns spiritual things really well, can't watch something because of a demonic presence, but then be like but it's cool if I watch it because I don't have that discernment. Bro, maybe listen to your wife because her eyes have been open to that? Demons don't discriminate, and demonic doors open up when we're repeatedly entertaining them. I've been delievered of a swarm of hovering demons myself. I didn't get them because I was going out and looking for them. They often find their ways in when we make (repeated) sinful decisions, when we turn things into idols, or when we are abused by others. Demons sitting on the liquor store doors? I have no idea, but I do know that if you get drunk you're opening yourself up to opportunities for the devil. I generally appreciate the "middle ground" approach that you guys take on your videos, but this one just feels like you've lost where you stand in an attempt to rationalize, and neutralize any urgency around, the demonic.
All things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial. This shouldn't even be about whether something is sin or not. I think you guys are approaching this from the wrong angle (to be fair I'm not done the episode yet lol). We are told not to violate love, and to guard our hearts, to avoid idols, things like that. I'm also uncomfortable with legalism, but I think Josh's response to the guy who has seen a lot of people with demons cast out that identified themselves as having a root in Pokemon, is not a good response. (I say that as someone with no dog in the fight - I never saw pokemon or played it or anything in my life lol, I know nothing about it and don't care - but I'd hear out the deliverance guy for sure) If we as mature believers know there are specific risks and harms associated with cultural phenomena, we don't need to make them "sin," but we do need to make the harms and risks known, take them seriously, and ask ourselves if our liberty is hurting ourselves or others. And having said that, as an artist with a history in occult spiritual stuff, I know that actually yeah, demonic stuff is infused in a lot of art, movies, etc. Is it sin to be exposed to it? No. Is it sin to enjoy it? Maybe not. Is it beneficial? I would argue not, it's not beneficial. Is it harmful? Frequently. Not just to individuals, but cultures. Harry Potter acted as a gateway to witchcraft for an entire generation, not just in overt occultism but in the cultural shifts we are now seeing. You think this mental health epidemic came out of nowhere? It didn't. Is it sin to watch HP? No, obviously not. Perhaps we can study it to understand what is happening in culture. I can't watch it, it makes me nauseous and I hate it for what it is. But, some cultural works that have demonic energy in them, and demonic themes, I will watch in small doses, and I always end up feeling upset by what is being manipulated into the world through it. Again, not about what is sin and what isn't. I do think there is some inherent redemptive beauty in a human being's work of creative excellence, even if it's coming from their flesh and demonic strongholds. They are still in God's image, and creativity is beautiful! We shouldn't laugh off the potential harms, is all.
When I was a child, I was a big fan of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, and a woman and a few others tried to convince my Mom and Grandmother that it was an evil show. Thankfully, my Mom and Grandmother saw that it wasn’t. There was also a phase, within the local churches of my hometown and the surrounding area, where the wearing of Eskimo Joe’s t-shirts was condemned as sinful. My family thought it was all ridiculous.
Not really related to the subject, but: Do you consider that the healing mentioned in Isaiah 53 (through the wounds of The Anointed One) should be understood through the lens of the first verses in Isaiah 1 (cf. esp. vv. 5-6)? Do you think that Isaiah does this analogy (sin being seen as disease) throughout the whole book?
Haha, Miller's comment about skinny jeans at 7:34 had me laughing. "I'm glad the skinny jean trend has left us cuz I don't think I could have ever pulled them off". Couldn't pull them off because you're not that trendy, or because they would literally be too tight to pull off of your legs? Great episode! I really enjoyed Sam's sermon as well.
So if Satan is a copy cat of God, bc he wants the worship, and if God uses signs, symbols, and patterns, then why would Satan do that in this kingdom of his? Christian businesses put symbols in their stuff as a way to honor God, then why would we not think that people who worship Satan, not unknowingly but knowingly then why would they not do the same thing. I absolutely believe there are demonic symbols in more things than we realize. However I do agree, that so much of our convictions are subjective but people try to put their personal convictions on everyone else, and again, sometimes demons come through things bc of idolatry and not necessarily bc that thing has demons attached. I taught my kids about all these things and when my kids got to a certain age, I allowed them to start making their own choices so they can learn self control and learn to listen to the Holy Spirit and not just do something bc mom said and I have found that my kids are making decisions bc they were taught and allowed to figure it out instead of forcing them and causing them to rebel
The entire chapter of Eph 4 covers this topic, but like Josh said how theres one Holy Spirit. “There is one body and one Spirit-just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call- one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.” So if husband and wife is one flesh, how could convictions be split? Paul in Romans 14 was talking about convictions of eating meat or not and differentiating Holy days, not that we each have our own Lord, our own baptism, our own faith, our own Holy Spirit etc because scripture doesnt contradict Itself.
Thanks for this video. The “weak in the faith” in Romans 14:1 seems to refer to Jews who are a minority in number in the faith/family of the Messiah. Jews had been the majority of believers early on in Rome, with a gentile minority. The Jews were expelled from Rome for a number of years, causing the gentile believers to eventually become the majority. When the Jewish believers returned, they were a minority and treated as such…as inferior.
You guys mention several times that a clear line can be drawn with pornography. Are you also referring to sex scenes in movies? Isn't that pornography as well? What about nudity in movies? I'm very careful not to expose myself to seeing nudity. I sincerely want to know if born again Christians think its okay to watch movies or show's with nudity in them? For me that's an absolute no go. Is that just my own personal conviction?
Good point, movies like Titanic and Braveheart have nude scenes, but I wouldn’t call it pornographic. Would I let my children watch it? No. Generally speaking I would apply a principle of will this cause me to outright stumble or sin? If I’m a recovering alcoholic, I’m not going into a bar. If I struggle with lust, I’m not going to put myself willing into temptation. All that being said, I do think there are some subjective lines (and clear objective ones too) where something goes from being art to being sin.
I love romantic movies. But sex scènes is a no go. Even Christian movies have kissing scenes. I think if you are Looking to where the Line is in art: Just think; Can I perform this in front of my church on sunday morning for everyone to see and would it be honouring to God?
I was hoping to hear your take on touring Chinese temples. Is the fear of them and their propensity to demonize people legalistic or a real reality that should be avoided? We are going on a trip and I don’t know whether I should abstain or not.
Mike, I looked into the Ecclesiastes 7:18 you quoted about "the fear of God avoids extremes", it sounded compelling for this topic, but actually I only found the NIV and NLT to translate it the way quoted in the episode, and both come with an alternate reading in my bible notes. ESV, nasb, nkjv, do not translate it that way. Actually they change the meaning quite substantially, to the point I don't think it could be used for the argument of this episode. But that's my translation criticism opinion. Thanks for your hard work. I Listen to every episode. Favorite channel!
“Do not be excessively righteous and do not be overly wise. Why should you ruin yourself? Do not be excessively wicked and do not be a fool. Why should you die before your time? It is good that you grasp one thing and also not let go of the other; for the one who fears God comes forth with both of them.” Ecclesiastes 7:16-18 I read this verse in context years ago from NASB and came away understanding what Michael pointed out with it. I think it makes sense, people get way to uptight and legalistic striving to look righteous and smart and this verse says this is not good.
@@BruceWayne-hr4oz i can see how it could be concluded the way you and Mike, and NIV translaters did. That last verse is a little hard to translate, but the fuller context Id personally take it as don't trust in your own estimation of righteousness. the fear of the Lord leads us to look to God for His righteousness. "the fear of God avoids extremes" just doesn't seem like it lines up with the fuller idea of the fear of the Lord in scripture. Debatable I guess, just like the broader episode content lol
Thanks Benjamin for the thoughts! I still agree with what I said bc the context is not being “over wicked or over righteous”--aka antinomian or legalistic-two extremes. NIV is a dynamic equivalent translation which means phrase for phrase, vs word for word like ESV and NASB. either way, good pushback. Thanks again!
I personally am cool with watching Lord of the Rings whilst I am not personally cool with Harry Potter, the latter of which, per my observation, has an overwhelming main theme of witchcraft, unlike Lotr. Just my own convictions. 😇
Just a clarification, DeSantis and the Florida Legislature only reacted once Disney came out in opposition and lobbied in the media concerning an education bill that prohibited gender/sex education in K-3rd........ The state would have left disney alone if they had not tried to play politics with kids in the state directly.
Ok so still mulling this over on the whole monster energy drink and I am of the mind that messaging on the can aside.. we shouldn’t be drinking this stuff which is toxic to our bodies. Josh I recommend Alisa Childers most recent podcast on abortion with Scott K - point number 3 relates to this topic about Christians should not be trashing the body (the topic they’re talking about is abortion, but could be applied to eating and drinking stuff that’s not actually real food).
I could get addicted to good real estate deals and I agree about putting anything before God can become idol, especially when it takes time from getting you stuff done.
Great episode and way overdue. I went from Church of Christ legalism to Charismatic legalism. Now the CoC I was with actively involved in evangelism and discipleship so we weren’t the “traditional church.” Either way after 4 years I left. Well, then (long story short) there was Charismatic legalism as if working out in the gym is self worship. Well it could be like like over eating on Sunday is. Could be and is are two different things. Well honoring God in your body is not idolatry. Even wanting to look and feel younger is not idolatry and just because it could be doesn’t mean it is. So yeah Romans 14 is great on this. Another thing my hair is nearly over my ears and the back can touch my neck. Is it a shame to have long hair. It is if I’m wanting to look like a Corinthian temple prostitute. To use I Corinthians 11 we may as well be consistent and say women has to use head coverings. No, it usually means the Holy Spirit is leading us to honor God I’m all these things whether it’s music, movies, spending time in prayer as well as working out in the gym, and overall be led by the Holy Spirit.
@@gabriellafaithmckenzie I can tell I was in a hurry to write that. Needs some serious editing. And it's funny how that works, legalism. Goes to show legalism is problem in the heart. Grace vs. Legalism is a great topic to study in II Cor 3. I tried explaining to a friend of mine in a Calvary Chapel, Charismatic but teach systematically through the scriptures, and he didn't want to hear anything I had to say. One reason he knew I was a COC back the day and I was telling him if tattoos are so wrong based OT ban then he shouldn't shave his beard. He didn't get it. But as he said he did all kinds of drugs back in the day, and he was delivered from them, but it has compromised his ability to work things out. It's a good thing he was set free from that the way he was.
@@CCR-ew6ke No worries! It was a year ago lol. You know, that is an interesting point to make. It definitely is a heart issue because I tend to lean that way unintentionally. Thank you for your kind words of advice. If you don’t mind me asking what COC did you attend? I find more often then not, I know most of the people in COC lol especially since it’s passed down generation to generation.
@@gabriellafaithmckenzie I was not raised in COC and it wasn't generation to generation. So I lucked out in that (I used to think those raised in COC were spoiled and don't know how easy they have it. Well, at first when I had a more positive view). I know, that sounds crazy of me to think those kids had it easy. Anyway, I went to Crossroads COC in Gainesville....the controversial one. It wasn't ICOC but it did give rise to the discipleship movement in COC. And so I was always taught the Holy Spirit indwells the believer until I began to visit other congregations. Crossroads was legalistic in many ways and prideful is the way I saw it. And so I looked for more COC who were acitve because that would alleviate the idea Crossroads owned the market on evangelism and "being effective for Christ." And so it was good to hear about Richland Hills COC, now The Hills in Ft. Worth, TX. I never went there either but heard about it. I knew a couple from Whites Ferry Road COC who were at Crossroads and they helped me to see things more clearly. After that I left and joined the Army to do so. *I didn't look to see this was from last year...
The basic way too see these issues is is it getting you closer to christ and helping you live a more holy life and or are you wasting time like for me I go to the gym and I realize you can fall into a trap quick with how others are barely dresses but it helps me sustain from gluttony and hopefully live a longer life to preach the gospel and thats how we should look at these issues per individual and thier life
Pokemon came from the same company as Dungeons and Dragons. They came up with Pokemon to counter the worsening reputation of Dungeons and Dragons. Pokemon is cute and seems harmless....
As a sisterly love, please let us not use the name of the LORD in vain by any forms of expression. The LORD calls this blasphemy and we as Christians need to be careful to use God's name as an expression for His name is Holy. I'm saying this out of love and I pray anyone will take heed to this.
I love action movies but more so crime dramas. I love seeing justice done and the criminals caught. When I am watching a movie and there is a love scene or something that my eyes personal don't wanna see ill either not look leave the room or skip past that scene. One movie saga that comes to mind is James Bond. Loving the dialog guys and one scripture that comes to mind is in Peter where it says grow in the grave and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. Keep up the good work guys as none of us has it completely figured out and that's a good thing because I feel it stresses upon God's children to proactive in seeking such wisdom and discernment as we tarry through this life eagerly awaiting the second coming pf Our Lord!!!
Considering, that not everyone would be at the same level in the body (immaturity, lack of study of the Word, benchwarmers, etc.) how do we go about saying "live by your convictions"?
The monster can literally is just a giant M made claws. Nothing more🤷♀️ When it comes to movies with magic, etc... my rule of thumb is, if its the villain/“bad guy” doing the sorcery, okay fine. But when its the good guy/girl and its glorified, made to look fun or appealing...etc, different story for me. When it comes to what we use for entertainment, we should be careful. Some scenes or entities in movies aren’t just creativity by the writers. Some of it comes from personal experiences or that of friends, etc. The black shadowy figures seen in some scary movies are also commonly seen by people in real life, they are demons, so I would def have a hard time entertaining myself with that. Stephen King, who wrote The Shining, did not do it on his own. The images in the movie came straight from what he called his “muse” I believe. He literally wrote what he was told to write and what he physically saw while staying in the Stanley Hotel. My point is, sometimes we are entertaining ourselves with actual demonic things. I do agree with the points made in this video, though, just wanted to add my thoughts! 🙂
Holy spirit definitely convict's people differently about things not explicitly written or instructed in the bible. As in Acts, the HS forbade some of the apostles from going into Asia and it would be sin for them to disobey that leading. But that doesn't mean it's sin for all, only those who had that witness of the spirit. The same can be applied for things today like pokemon, what job to take, harry potter, who to Marry, etc.
Pokémon and Japanese Anime in general are mostly mix of spiritual world and futuristic technology. The spiritual part comes from Japanese folklore in which demons/spirits are common and even if they are bad, you can befriend them. They can be part of anything, usually natural or geographic features like rivers trees or look like forest animals. Pokémon like most japanese anime source the ideas here.
Guys, I grew up not being able to watch many shows, or even play with certain toys because my mom read "Turmoil in the Toy Box". I don't begrudge it at all. I use discernment, especially with entertainment, and some things Holy Spirit allows me to watch\heart ead and some He doesn't. There is music that makes my spirit cringe but it doesn't bother my believer friends. Because He has made us different from one another, it seems logical that our omniscient Father would deal with each of us according to our personalities with our personal weaknesses & strengths. It's easy to know the things the Word shouts; but making doctrine out of its whispers is how cults are birthed. I appreciate this dialogue. It's very Berean.
Towards the end of your show I would say it's not hard to say no to the things I become knowledgeable to. Just Say No. Things i choose key word choose to say o.k. to after being woke to the knowledge of certain things is choice each of us make and are consciously saying I'll take my chances on judgement day whether I was compromising, pushing past conviction or not when the Holy Spirit convicted me not to do something or participate in something or support something. God bless you brothers though. You have a lot wonderful shows I have watched.
So how would you go about addressing something like if someone listened to the Beatles who had Aleister Crowley on their album cover? Considering their dives into various forms of spiritualism and messages about drugs and other things. Would you say it's probably wise not to listen to them but also that's something to sort out with God? Or even the many other artists who like to wear shirts with Aleister Crowley on them. Really any of the many artists that paint him as a visionary would do. I just chose the Beatles because this came up recently with a fellow Christian.
isn't Aleister Crowley the same as Hitler?.... in spiritual sense? ...leading millions to hell...? So what if he was on the cover. Would you listen to that music also? ....Just a thought
@@Henriette-van-der-Ende Also, when it comes to what you personally listen to, I think it's between yourself and God. I think it's unwise to expose yourself to constant pagan content, but I also think if you like a melody and can let everything else slide right off of you, then praise God.
@@evanbiter2138 Jesus tells us that if even one thing that causes us to sin would be better off removed from our bodies. If you like the melody of one occult song, is it really ok to keep enjoying it knowing the origin of its root and message? It's not a salvation issue, but you're just going to make your life so much harder by opening doors to the occult.
I've got no problems with Harry Potter, but my wife can't because she came out of New Age/ witchcraft. She tried watching it and she decided she definitely didn't want to.
Your wife is very wise indeed. She is yielding to the guidance of The Holy Spirit not to watch Harry Potter. May The LORD Almighty continue to direct her path and bless her walk with Him along the narrow path, in the Mighty and Matchless Name of Jesus Christ our Blessed Messiah 🙏🏼✝️👑
@@TheNathanMac That's great! good job dad! I think that is super important to educate kids about it and share testimonials too once they are of age to understand. I have been attacked by demons and I have had that conversation with my 15 year old and told him (those movies and new age) it can be a gateway and for him to steer clear.
I played with Pokemon and read 5 of the Harry Potter books when I was a kid, and I never had an interest in witchcraft, because I can discern even as a child fiction from fantasy. I have never felt convicted about watching Star Wars or Lord of The Rings but have actually encountered Jesus through them sometimes. Sometimes God will watch a movie with me and speak to me through them prophetically. God is not legalistic and tends to meet people where they are at.
I've heard about that Disney agenda for two decades now. Warnings from the Christian community. It's a shame because there is a lot of good there as well. But darkness does often disguise itself as light. 🙏
This is my favorite episode yet, guys, and I don’t say that lightly! I’ve been a viewer for a while now, and y’all are a God-send in general, but you perfectly introduced my consistent internal conflict as a Kierkegaardian/Wesleyan between subjectivity and objectivity. I LOVED IT! Keep doing your thing, it just keeps getting better. ♥️
Thanks Kyle! I appreciate the feeback.
@@TheRemnantRadio Of course, man. If my platform ever grows, I'd love to have y'all on the channel some time. Basement boys and beards of all shapes and sizes are accepted with the fam n' cheese. :D
I'm so impressed how these guys can pump out so much quality content on such a consistent basis.
Word…Im impressed how God can use 3 jerks to put out such 🔥🔥 humbke graceful spirit filled content
Disney: For me, I unsubscribed from Disney+. It wasn't the "woke" agenda because, newsflash, sinners sin. They love it. They sell it. They enjoy it. But what took me over the edge was the whole "My child is pansexual" and "Disney needs to be a place where my child feels welcome". Pansexual is not Bisexual. It's defined as opened to all sexual encounters (pan means all) and sexually attracted to everyone. Everyone means everyone, regardless of age, race, or gender. Mind you, the context of this is "my child". More importantly, the debate was sparked over PRE 4th grader's! I don't want my 3rd grader open to sexual activity of any type. I want them NON-sexual. Disney doesn't. Then, coming out and saying 50% of all characters in a Disney movie going forward will be LGBTQ+... Disney is no loner selling entertainment. They're selling sexual identity. That is now their brand. That's a brand I, personally, ain't interested in backing... not when it's marketed to kids.
Pansexual does not mean regardless of age. It strictly has to do with regardless of gender (cisgender, trans etc..) This is free information on the internet. Why are people hellbent on sexualizing the lgbtq community? I don't understand that. There is no extension or room for innocence and that's just sad that automatically it's all about sex and nothing more. Children shouldn't be sexualized regardless of how they identify. It's weird, and if it was the other way around, where it was a "normal" household with father and mother, therefore it's not sexual nor considered an agenda at that point?
It's such a shame too because I loved the parks and I'm pretty sure Walt wouldn't be too stoked about the direction the company is heading in :(
I can only go by the definition of "pansexual" by all the online dictionaries. Pan means all. The definition is "Sexually attracted to everyone". And "Open to sexual activity with anyone regardless of gender". "Anyone" "everyone".. Pan means all. All is all. So, YES... this is all about sexual activity with KIDS.
That effer Walt. He was a Nazi for a while!
I would also say for parents who feel convicted over certain things they don’t want their children to participate in, give your children an explanation as to why they shouldn’t participate and even present your research and findings to them. Children, and I would say especially teens, want a reason why it’s wrong, and I feel like the pushback would be a lot less if you could give a rational and articulated response so that your children understand the deeper reasons and it’s not just because “it’s demonic”. It might very well be, especially within modern culture, but show them why and explain it to them. Once the kids are grown up, they can do their own research, but I feel like the chances that they will indulge in the material once they leave the house because of rebellion against the “don’t touch” rule would be less likely. Just some thoughts, God bless!
This is 100% spot on. My parents always explained things to me and I never rebelled. My wife on the other hand was raised by "I said so" parents and she rebelled like crazy :(
My personal guideline: if I can imagine Jesus sitting next to me while I watch or read something and if I imagine (according to scripture) he is OK with it, then I can watch it. If not, then I shouldn't.
I do the same!
Not a bad idea, actually.
Why as a Christian would we see how close to the fire we can get without being burned? Especially with music music is a direct path into our soul. God set me free from meth, weed alcohol, adultery, violence, lying, stealing, in 2011 list goes on on and on. I try to keep the atmosphere around me as clean and clear as possible. At work at home etc. Call it legalizm call it what you want but on judgement day you wont be by my side when I'm standing face to face with my Creator. Who paid such a price to pay for my sins.... Past present and future sins! Glory to the King of kings
herniated discs suck... I popped 3 cervical (neck) discs, 4 years ago. Good physiotherapy is worth every penny. My prognosis was initially grim, but God healed me more than the doctors thought possible. Will be praying for your healing Miller!
I grew up in Baptist legalism and I got bitter and denied my Christianity . It took me years like 40 yrs to claim my belief in Christ again and believe I didn’t get saved til about 13 yrs ago in my Assemblies of God church. I’m 55
I'm thinking of not hanging out with a Baptist lady anymore. She only thinks KJV bible is only true one, she believes in OSAS but says she doesn't drink alcohol cuz she's Christian even though Jesus drank, and now she thinks any tv almost is bad.
Welcome back!
I love you guys. Excellent way of explaining all of it. I had the spirit of fear so bad and could not watch anything. But now the perfect love of God has cast out all fear. I have a different perspective than others. Thank you!!
I think some people are able to watch certain movies that others can't is because they have become accustomed to that top of a movie and their conscience has become seared. Personally speaking, when I decide what to watch or listen to, I judge it based on Philippians 4:8. As for what I eat or drink, I do my best to treat my body as the temple of the Holy Spirit, of course I fail many times like everyone else.
Amen Philippians 4:8 is a great standard.
You guys are awesome!
The body needs to be having time to discuss these things together, not in a church event, but as believers doing life together! Branching from that point we are so compartmentalized as supposed to having everything be submitted to Christ and having the habit of putting Christ at the center of everything!
I believe that the whole counsel of scripture illuminated by the Holy Spirit and his wisdom will lead us to the law of liberty (James), which is actually a centering our lives on Christ, freedom, not a freedom to do our own will type of freedom that the world worships and that Americans worship. Removing ourselves from our cultural context just as we are meant to do as we seek to study scripture, is not something many Christian’s do, we start from our culture: “can I watch this thing my spirit wants?” VS: “I am meant to become one with God and do the will of the Father just as Jesus did and through Jesus, so does this activity help me become one, does it honor the father?
If we are meant to live a lifestyle of losing our life, should not our fun activities honor God? Can I glorify God by watching one of my fav movies, Die Hard? There’s nudity, there’s violence, there’s terrible cursing and coarse joking and more…if I frame my life in terms of honoring God or not, how could I justify watching this?
To watch something, I believe, is on some level giving myself to the thing. I am allowing this medium to please me to fulfill something in me. That sounds like a form of worship to me.
Also, I do not think we are meant to be exposed to so many ideas all over the place. I think if the physical realm became invisible to us and the spiritual realm be came visible to us so to speak, we would think very differently. But, all that to say I struggle with delighting in the movies and tv shows etc etc and I am sincerely, asking these questions and desiring to reject anything that displeases God in my life. Love to all.
Thank you for sharing this! I’m kind of sad that not more people have said the same sort of thing. How in the world could we watch something like a horror movie or witchcraft. How does that honor God? Couldn’t we find better and more productive things to do with our time? Are we out there sharing the gospel? We could take up a new hobby that actually helps us with our health or a hobby that we can share with others. I just don’t see the place of, all these movies and television shows in our lives as far as building us up in the Lord.
Y'all crack me up man. Thanks for simultaneously shedding light on serious topics and keeping it lighthearted and hilarious.
Charisma magazine once did an article debunking the pokemon legalism. It was compelling and personally helped me as a new believer be more discerning concerning Christian legalsim/ fear culture. That being said in my experience , looking at the fruit, most adults I've met who were into pokemon look back on it with nostalgia and fond memories but not a lot of cult like behavior. However, I often see people who were into Harry Potter growing up who are are OBSESSED with it , tattooed with HP symbols, into witchcraft or magic and seems to have more LGBT+ people involved in it than some other groups. Is it the story itself, the culture involved or does it open a door for some people? IDK, but I do think there are not demons of specific pop culture stories or characters. I think there are demons who use ANYTHING they can to harm, stumble, possess or destroy people. Legalistic religion and hedonistic worldliness can both potentially take you down a road away from Father.
This might also have something to do with the imaginary world of Harry Potter being better developed, since Pokemon was made as an episodic advertisement for toys and Harry Potter was actually written to be an engaging book. Also, people love to be able to identify themselves with personality categories. Pokemon and Harry Potter are both avowedly fictional fantasies, but to people who don't recognize God, it's exactly as meaningful as anything else.
Yeah, I haven't looked into it but I was caught off guard with the pokemon stuff. My memory was just that they were creatures like alternative animals and it was a mildly entertaining show as a kid.
Pokémon is based on beetle fighting that children in rural areas in Asia would do for fun. You would go out into Forrest and find the biggest beetle and capture it and then release them in a arena and have them fight. My dad said he would do that as a child.
When it comes to Harry Potter why on earth would we watch and be entertained and enjoy anything that God calls an abomination and that whoever practices these things have thier part in the lake of fire? 🔥🔥🔥
The Bible clearly says "Dont do" sorcery and witchcraft... Why on earth would anyone think the Holy Spirit would be saying "Do" watch it. 😤
Revelation 21:8
[8]But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Micah 5:10-12
10 “In that day,” declares the LORD, “I will destroy your horses from among you and demolish your chariots. 11 I will destroy the cities of your land and tear down all your strongholds. 12 I will destroy your witchcraft and you will no longer cast spells.
Why would we support in any way the production of these kinds of films? Why would we spend Gods money to watch witchcraft?
Hope this is an eye opener to someone.
Be blessed all 🙌
Though I have no problem having a beer with a curry, I would not be able to (in good conscience) have a beer with a brother who has been set free from alcoholism; for that would be putting a stumbling block before him. Likewise, I would not expect the brother who was set free from alcoholism to tell me that I must never drink for it is sinful and worthy of the second death.
You guys are so industrious! Your output is prolific yet remains quality content, I love that. To have regular content means so much, it offers a positive alternative to the tsunami of shallow, ungodly content on TH-cam and your posture of humility and sincere respect for those with other views is very welcome. You guys and Mike Winger and Gavin Ortlund are great blessings to me. Thankyou!
I unfortunately know a lot of Christians - including my own young adult children who don’t mind watching entertainment that is very sinful, sexually immoral, degenerate, and full of foul language. I can’t understand this. God says to hate what he hates and love what he loves. I take that seriously. It actually makes me sorrowful that so many Christian’s aren’t bothered by sin in these shows and can dismiss it so easily. It’s a searing of the conscience. I then hear people say to me that’s my own conviction and they don’t feel that. Can you explain that. Because to me sin is sin and is very well spelled out in the scriptures as we are to abstain from these things. Not because we are better but because it’s a sin against our Heavenly Father.
I used to watch tons of horror flicks, listen to demonic music, messed up stuff online. Here was my messed up reasoning: if it is a reality, we should be able to watch it. Certainly it cannot be a sin to understand the real things that people experience. Wrong! You are right. Eye gate, ear gate. Looking back it was deep spiritual blindness
Keep praying for your prodigals. The Lord is working patiently for our families
Amen
I agree. There are times I watch a movie and it curses or blamphemes and I’m like,”Father forgive the script writers.” But if it keeps going on and on I turn it off. I used to play GTA before I was saved and I tried to play it again being born again and the Holy Spirit was like nope. And I got rid of it. The game is literally going against the 8th commandment 😂😂 but I still play video games but have gotten/not played some that are just plainly ungodly.
Just abstain from watching with them, tell them why you abstain,and trust God to communicate to them the same convictions He communicated to you, and until then, keep your opinion to yourself. Period. You're not the one to convince them of anything.
I'm speaking as if these are adults in your home. If they are adults in your home, you can stop paying for the streaming services. I have more opinions if minors, I'll share if asked.
I grew up with Sailor Moon and Pokémon. God told me to purge the Sailor Moon stuff years ago and I only did so partially. (Last week I finished that purge.) Pokémon? Laughed off any idea of Pokemon being demonic until two weeks ago.
The topic kept coming up in unrelated sermons I was listening to over the next two weeks. I decided, if I am going to purge Pokemon, I need a concrete reason for it to be demonic. I prayed and asked God to finally reveal it to me once and for all if it is or is not demonic. That night I was researching until I discovered the “Satan equivalent” Pokémon, Giratina. If there is Giratina, then who is the god Pokémon? The god of all of the Pokemon universe is Arceus. Arceus is designed after the kirin, a chimera, essentially the Japanese equivalent of the unicorn. I made it this far and decided to go to bed because I couldn’t make any connections.
As soon as I rolled over, I remembered a fallen angel that first appears as a unicorn. The occult believes this demon “gives excellent familiars.” Dictionary definition of familiar: A spirit often embodied in an animal and held to attend and serve or guard a person. Is that not exactly what Pokémon are?
Demons are demons regardless of how cute they are. I’ve played Pokémon for two decades, and on Friday I deleted the app and burned all of it. Rare cards up in flames in the name of Jesus.
Please pray for LaRee she has chronic abdominal pain and migraine. Blessings to your wonderful show
Thinking while listening brought this to mind. Many people, possibly some of you, have made an idol of the bible and of theology. Like the pharisees who had no relationship with God, but had a relationship of sorts with scripture and theology. People don't even consider such a thing because it sounds so right to be a person of the word and have accurate theology.
Duuuude. I am a new Christian and have definitely noticed this. Christianity in some circles seems so academic and cerebral. Honestly the thing that brought me to the table were the intellectual arguments/theology but the thing that keeps me around is my relationship with God and joy and peace I have as a result. I literally don’t understand why Christians argue so much amongst each other about theology.
Well, everything may be justified as permissable.. but not everything is profitable to the soul. That is the biblical guidance I live by. Take it all to God and allow Him room to direct/guide /correct/adjust accordingly. All the best
Great episode to walk that fine line of scriptural sin and conviction…. Where we have people draw lines are celebration of Halloween and then witchcraft (Harry Potter/Narnia/LotR). People would say, if it causes your brother to stumble then don’t participate especially if you are a leader but others say then I can’t do anything because I might cause someone to stumble…
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Mentioning the Monster drink, having grown up in Hispanic Charismaticism, there was a concern about this. I always tell them that its funny they would tell me about this drink while eating at a Chinese buffet, which are usually explicitly idolatrous with statues of their religion and even some places giving offerings in the very restaurant.
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This really spoke to me. My son is 5 and LOVES VR. It's hard not to let him play it because I see him interacting with others, standing up to bullies, defending others, and even telling other kids about God through it! However, when I try to get him to stop he has tantrums that he doesn't have with anything else :(
Loved this and thanks a lot! Some chapters for dealing with gray areas for me are: 1 Cor 8, 1 Cor 10, Rom 14, Mark 7, and Col 2.
43:24 I cant! 😂 on a serious note, thank you for addressing these subjects. I grew up in a very conservative Christian home, which I am grateful for, but I have struggled as an adult with discerning between actual conviction and what I was raised to believe was a sin. I have strived to make scripture the ultimate authority concerning these issues while following the Holy Spirit.
I would only say this about the symbolism, predictive programming, occult conspiracy etc. I would be careful speaking on that without deep research. You could very easily alienate individuals who have put the time into deeply researching those fields. Most of them have dealt with being made fun of by family and friends already.
You saved me a lot of typing. Amen
Well said. Amen.
Ironically my AG Bible college wanted me to read the fictional book Faust for a class where it described in detail a ritual with the devil. I felt very uncomfortable and asked to read a different book but I sensed that my professor was pretty judgmental toward me about it.
Perhaps an episode on the harsh realities of practicing witchcraft.
It makes me sad that Children get murdered for witchcraft purposes. Some have limbs violently hacked of.
Scripture does describe magic as powerful, somewhere it speaks of witches keeping those who should have died, alive, and those who should have stayed alive, making them die before there time.
Alternative episode idea, if you want it. Or perhaps interview someone with insight into this topic.
My pastor made a helpful observation while preaching on Romans 14, I think. I can't quote him, but in essence, what he said was that we all immediately assume that the other guy is the weaker brother.
Y’know, after watching your videos for two years and being a Patreon subscriber, I thought to myself: man, RR reaches more people on a weekly than many mega churches. It’s weird because RR has discussed everything about the Gospel but never presented it by itself…Yet! But hey, I can’t wait when one day you preach the Gospel on RR! It’s going to be jam packed with scholarly work, amazing metaphors and be digestible for the laymen. It’s gonna be a the Super Gospel!
Hahaha thanks for your support! Check out our New Perspective video this week, I think we tried to make it pretty clear. But you’re right, we usually don’t do a succinct “Gospel sharing moment,” although it does happen some
I just love this episode! 'Whats that picture box' LOL!
I was thinking of leaving a charasmatic church but you guys answer my concerns, thanks!
Very good discussion! Thank you very much and I must say I was in total agreement with what each of you said concerning the array of issues that we are confronted with as Christians; these confrontations happen nearly daily in this day and age!
-a great show, as always!
Very ‘impressed’ with Josh in his knowledge of Naruto. Respect! I think one thing that may be lost in this discussion is how/what Japanese culture sees as a ‘demon.’ Lost in translation if you will. I believe there is nuance and could change some of the discussion if charity is allowed. BELIEVE IT!
I haven't seen Naruto but I remembered a scene in Princess Mononoke where a character is demonised and he fights against it and resists the urges to act according to it's will. So, there's a demonic entity but a very positive message...
I'm excited to hear a episode covering the full Gospel of Repentance, Baptism, Holy Spirit, and walking and crucified life as a Disciple of Jesus who is the coming King and demands our allegiance to be for His Kingdom only and not for this world.
Since my (one) comment came up in this video, I’d like to add my main point throughout the chat was that “feeling” conviction or the lack thereof is not a measure for sin. Scripture + conviction in tandem should always be used.
True. 1 Cor 4:4
I agree with that. But in the gray areas I think we just have to seek the Holy Spirit, which is inevitably more subjective how we interpret….
Anyway….
Since I owe you a comment on the sovereignty stuff from another chat…. My bad for not getting back. Personally, I view things from more of a traditional sovereignty / providence perspective. To me it comes down to primary and secondary causes. A good example of this is the Cross. God was the primary cause of the crucifixion bc He predestined it (Acts 2, 4). But that doesn’t mean that the Holy Spirit filled Judas to force the betrayal. No, Satan did that. Satan, not the Holy Spirit, was empowering those who mocked and spat and nailed Jesus to the tree. So even though God was “over” it all-that’s what it means that He is the primary cause-He did not Himself commit sin. People did-they were the secondary cause.
Of course there is an element of mystery in all of this. How does God ordain that sin happens-as Acts 2 and 4 make clear He did with the Cross-without Himself sinning? (Another example is Gen 45 with Joeseph.) We don’t precisely know how, but we know (or at least, I believe) that it’s true. You might think of it like the sun. The Sun only emits light and heat, just as God only emanates glory and goodness. When the sun goes down, however, the outcome is darkness and coldness. Dark and cold are not the “direct product” of the sun, but indirectly, they result from the sun setting. In the same way, God only emanates glory and goodness by His positive agency, but He also moves and acts in such a manner that darkness and evil result. Not as a direct product, but as an indirect one, as it were.
Does God want all the evil in the world to be eradicated? Of course. That’s why Jesus came, to deal with it. In the meantime, God allows a bunch of mess until Christ returns to put all enemies under His feet (1 Cor 15).
That’s about the best I can do in a brief TH-cam comment!
Blessings
@@michaelrowntree2005 Well, if you've got to be a Calvinist, at least you've CHOSEN, (see what I did there?), to be the best kind: an inconsistent one! 😆 (Which means you believe the Bible more than you do Augustine, Calvin, and others), and that's a relief! God bless you, bro
@@Drspeiser lol
Blessings to you too!
@@michaelrowntree2005 No worries at all on the delayed reply…! I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to think it through and share your thoughts. It’s such a complex topic-and full of mystery like you said. There is definitely holiness in the tension/mystery. The analogy you used with the sun is a very good one, and I agree, this is a very complex topic for YT comments lol. How much does it cost to sponsor an episode of RR? If you guys will consider discussing this topic and the various viewpoints associated with it, I will personally financially sponsor it. (I’m serious). This stuff matters, because what we believe about it has practical implications in regards to how we pray, for example. Anyways, prayerfully consider. Haha. :)
I want to thank you guys for your videos. They are great in this discussion type format. I agree 100% that some things are liberty issues. However sorcery and witchcraft are not in anyway shape or form a liberty issue. We to having children have had these discussions with others brother and sisters in the Lord to see how far is too far with the things of witchcraft and sorcery such has even Micky Mouse. What I realized was we were desperately making excuses to make the Bible fit in today's society verses being willing to allow my self to be shaped by the Bible.
I like where Roundtree was going. If there's clear scriptural support against something, it's for all of us to follow. If there's not scriptural clarity (such as with eating meat) then there's freedom for personal convictions.
Thank you guys! So cool to hear a different charismatic perspective than usual! It would be cool if you guys did a video about if Christians can have demons and why.
We have talked about this a lot. We don't have an episode named "can Christians be possessed" but we do have a demonology playlist. you may find helpful content in there. th-cam.com/play/PLMsjeViSScFGlQJfR8BWdL8cZ46M1SjSZ.html
@@TheRemnantRadio thanks!
Guys y'all are killing it! I'm so impressed with your channel and topics. I share your videos all the time too! What I really enjoy is that y'all seem to be so biblically sound/solid and balanced charismatics too! That is so refreshing to me. I am trying to have that mindset too. I love that y'all talk about all these topics and try to bring clarity on differences between commands and personal convictions. I also have been down rabbit holes of conspiracy theories and have heard all the monster/vaccine/ Pokémon ect stuff. The only thing I'd say is that concerning movies with witchcraft like Harry Potter ect ..I do think there is scripture for us to steer clear of entertaining those dark demonic stuff from OT and NT (Deuteronomy/Acts). But I also realize that I have a background in occult/new age and that it's a personal conviction for me to also steer clear of that kind of entertainment. I had to get deliverance as I've shared before and I just want to guard it by not allowing room for the enemy. But I am not legalistic about it ..for example, I visited universal studio last year and rode the Harry Potter rides which we amazingly fun y'all! However, I didn't allow my kids to participate in some of the magic sorcerer stuff. That is what I mean by personal conviction and trying to be balanced. I'm so thankful for your channel and I pray God continues to grow it past 100,000 subs! Lol mine only has 115 subs but trying to not despise small beginnings! Y'all keep it up & y'all keep making me laugh all the time!
Watching sinful activity for pleasure or entertainment is sin. Getting pleasure out of what God hates is sin. Seems to me God is very clear about that. ❤❤
Brothers and Sisters, Please watch "Enforced Sunday Worship Laws" by Pastor COX
Oh my goodness my 4 year old is the same. Prayers for these boys! 🙏
Such a great show! Thank you!
the way my pastor explained demons in objects to me was something like, "oh people seem to like looking at this thing, I'm gonna hang out here so they look at me and maybe I'll find a way in"
i love you guys. thanks for what you do
We should never go against conscience.
Drums are of devil was a thing. The band Tourniquet wrote a song about.
Good show. You are correct: regarding these gray area issues, it's the attitude of the heart that counts. And that's not for us to judge and make legalistic rules about (1 Samuel 16:7).
I think it also comes down to whether you like it. And that also determines whether you watch it. So, why are you watching it becomes the question...
We lose a lot of brothers and sisters because of this too ..As always, another topic not talked about enough. I grew up in a church that condemned things other denominations allowed in their churches, and also with constantly being told you have to stop doing this or that, and struggled for a long time as a new believer and when I found passages like the ones mentioned where Paul talks about not condemning others,especially new believers, and I would ask, I would be told not to. I could give many examples but in trying to keep this short, I wish I could talk to everyone I grew up with and say this stuff to, but as I said, it is very discouraged in our churches and that is not right, and another reason why I love your content and pray that these discussions reach the right ears. Basically, I left the church but thank God HE didn't leave me. A lot of believers are turned away from the faith because of these actions. Be blessed.
Here is the question whatever we are watching is it glorifying Christ?
It was difficult to finish this video. How can anyone claim that their wife, who discerns spiritual things really well, can't watch something because of a demonic presence, but then be like but it's cool if I watch it because I don't have that discernment. Bro, maybe listen to your wife because her eyes have been open to that? Demons don't discriminate, and demonic doors open up when we're repeatedly entertaining them. I've been delievered of a swarm of hovering demons myself. I didn't get them because I was going out and looking for them. They often find their ways in when we make (repeated) sinful decisions, when we turn things into idols, or when we are abused by others. Demons sitting on the liquor store doors? I have no idea, but I do know that if you get drunk you're opening yourself up to opportunities for the devil. I generally appreciate the "middle ground" approach that you guys take on your videos, but this one just feels like you've lost where you stand in an attempt to rationalize, and neutralize any urgency around, the demonic.
Thank you. I unfortunately cannot finish this video.
All things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial. This shouldn't even be about whether something is sin or not. I think you guys are approaching this from the wrong angle (to be fair I'm not done the episode yet lol). We are told not to violate love, and to guard our hearts, to avoid idols, things like that. I'm also uncomfortable with legalism, but I think Josh's response to the guy who has seen a lot of people with demons cast out that identified themselves as having a root in Pokemon, is not a good response. (I say that as someone with no dog in the fight - I never saw pokemon or played it or anything in my life lol, I know nothing about it and don't care - but I'd hear out the deliverance guy for sure) If we as mature believers know there are specific risks and harms associated with cultural phenomena, we don't need to make them "sin," but we do need to make the harms and risks known, take them seriously, and ask ourselves if our liberty is hurting ourselves or others.
And having said that, as an artist with a history in occult spiritual stuff, I know that actually yeah, demonic stuff is infused in a lot of art, movies, etc. Is it sin to be exposed to it? No. Is it sin to enjoy it? Maybe not. Is it beneficial? I would argue not, it's not beneficial. Is it harmful? Frequently. Not just to individuals, but cultures. Harry Potter acted as a gateway to witchcraft for an entire generation, not just in overt occultism but in the cultural shifts we are now seeing. You think this mental health epidemic came out of nowhere? It didn't. Is it sin to watch HP? No, obviously not. Perhaps we can study it to understand what is happening in culture. I can't watch it, it makes me nauseous and I hate it for what it is. But, some cultural works that have demonic energy in them, and demonic themes, I will watch in small doses, and I always end up feeling upset by what is being manipulated into the world through it.
Again, not about what is sin and what isn't. I do think there is some inherent redemptive beauty in a human being's work of creative excellence, even if it's coming from their flesh and demonic strongholds. They are still in God's image, and creativity is beautiful! We shouldn't laugh off the potential harms, is all.
Everyone should read this comment right here.
When I was a child, I was a big fan of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, and a woman and a few others tried to convince my Mom and Grandmother that it was an evil show. Thankfully, my Mom and Grandmother saw that it wasn’t. There was also a phase, within the local churches of my hometown and the surrounding area, where the wearing of Eskimo Joe’s t-shirts was condemned as sinful. My family thought it was all ridiculous.
Great biblical and sound.
Not really related to the subject, but: Do you consider that the healing mentioned in Isaiah 53 (through the wounds of The Anointed One) should be understood through the lens of the first verses in Isaiah 1 (cf. esp. vv. 5-6)? Do you think that Isaiah does this analogy (sin being seen as disease) throughout the whole book?
Haha, Miller's comment about skinny jeans at 7:34 had me laughing. "I'm glad the skinny jean trend has left us cuz I don't think I could have ever pulled them off". Couldn't pull them off because you're not that trendy, or because they would literally be too tight to pull off of your legs? Great episode! I really enjoyed Sam's sermon as well.
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED/ LOSING SALVATION. I'VE BEEN A CHRISTIAN FOR MANY YEARS BUT STILL CANT LAND ON THIS FUNDAMENTAL ARGUMENT.
So if Satan is a copy cat of God, bc he wants the worship, and if God uses signs, symbols, and patterns, then why would Satan do that in this kingdom of his? Christian businesses put symbols in their stuff as a way to honor God, then why would we not think that people who worship Satan, not unknowingly but knowingly then why would they not do the same thing. I absolutely believe there are demonic symbols in more things than we realize. However I do agree, that so much of our convictions are subjective but people try to put their personal convictions on everyone else, and again, sometimes demons come through things bc of idolatry and not necessarily bc that thing has demons attached. I taught my kids about all these things and when my kids got to a certain age, I allowed them to start making their own choices so they can learn self control and learn to listen to the Holy Spirit and not just do something bc mom said and I have found that my kids are making decisions bc they were taught and allowed to figure it out instead of forcing them and causing them to rebel
The entire chapter of Eph 4 covers this topic, but like Josh said how theres one Holy Spirit. “There is one body and one Spirit-just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call- one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.” So if husband and wife is one flesh, how could convictions be split?
Paul in Romans 14 was talking about convictions of eating meat or not and differentiating Holy days, not that we each have our own Lord, our own baptism, our own faith, our own Holy Spirit etc because scripture doesnt contradict Itself.
Thanks for this video.
The “weak in the faith” in Romans 14:1 seems to refer to Jews who are a minority in number in the faith/family of the Messiah.
Jews had been the majority of believers early on in Rome, with a gentile minority. The Jews were expelled from Rome for a number of years, causing the gentile believers to eventually become the majority. When the Jewish believers returned, they were a minority and treated as such…as inferior.
You guys mention several times that a clear line can be drawn with pornography. Are you also referring to sex scenes in movies? Isn't that pornography as well? What about nudity in movies? I'm very careful not to expose myself to seeing nudity. I sincerely want to know if born again Christians think its okay to watch movies or show's with nudity in them? For me that's an absolute no go. Is that just my own personal conviction?
Good point, movies like Titanic and Braveheart have nude scenes, but I wouldn’t call it pornographic. Would I let my children watch it? No.
Generally speaking I would apply a principle of will this cause me to outright stumble or sin? If I’m a recovering alcoholic, I’m not going into a bar. If I struggle with lust, I’m not going to put myself willing into temptation.
All that being said, I do think there are some subjective lines (and clear objective ones too) where something goes from being art to being sin.
I agree with you Mark
I love romantic movies. But sex scènes is a no go. Even Christian movies have kissing scenes. I think if you are Looking to where the Line is in art: Just think; Can I perform this in front of my church on sunday morning for everyone to see and would it be honouring to God?
I was hoping to hear your take on touring Chinese temples. Is the fear of them and their propensity to demonize people legalistic or a real reality that should be avoided? We are going on a trip and I don’t know whether I should abstain or not.
Mike, I looked into the Ecclesiastes 7:18 you quoted about "the fear of God avoids extremes", it sounded compelling for this topic, but actually I only found the NIV and NLT to translate it the way quoted in the episode, and both come with an alternate reading in my bible notes. ESV, nasb, nkjv, do not translate it that way. Actually they change the meaning quite substantially, to the point I don't think it could be used for the argument of this episode. But that's my translation criticism opinion. Thanks for your hard work. I Listen to every episode. Favorite channel!
“Do not be excessively righteous and do not be overly wise. Why should you ruin yourself? Do not be excessively wicked and do not be a fool. Why should you die before your time? It is good that you grasp one thing and also not let go of the other; for the one who fears God comes forth with both of them.”
Ecclesiastes 7:16-18
I read this verse in context years ago from NASB and came away understanding what Michael pointed out with it. I think it makes sense, people get way to uptight and legalistic striving to look righteous and smart and this verse says this is not good.
@@BruceWayne-hr4oz i can see how it could be concluded the way you and Mike, and NIV translaters did. That last verse is a little hard to translate, but the fuller context Id personally take it as don't trust in your own estimation of righteousness. the fear of the Lord leads us to look to God for His righteousness.
"the fear of God avoids extremes" just doesn't seem like it lines up with the fuller idea of the fear of the Lord in scripture.
Debatable I guess, just like the broader episode content lol
Thanks Benjamin for the thoughts!
I still agree with what I said bc the context is not being “over wicked or over righteous”--aka antinomian or legalistic-two extremes.
NIV is a dynamic equivalent translation which means phrase for phrase, vs word for word like ESV and NASB.
either way, good pushback. Thanks again!
What happened to the days when no one noticed that Porky Pig or Winny the Pooh had no pants on????? Very sad
We can't make our own conviction someone's else's obligation if it's not salvational.
I personally am cool with watching Lord of the Rings whilst I am not personally cool with Harry Potter, the latter of which, per my observation, has an overwhelming main theme of witchcraft, unlike Lotr. Just my own convictions. 😇
Because alcohol once consumed my life I try to refrain from it but for others it’s fine - it depends on the persons past experiences
Just a clarification, DeSantis and the Florida Legislature only reacted once Disney came out in opposition and lobbied in the media concerning an education bill that prohibited gender/sex education in K-3rd........ The state would have left disney alone if they had not tried to play politics with kids in the state directly.
You guys should try to have Andrew Wommack come on and discuss healing
Ok so still mulling this over on the whole monster energy drink and I am of the mind that messaging on the can aside.. we shouldn’t be drinking this stuff which is toxic to our bodies. Josh I recommend Alisa Childers most recent podcast on abortion with Scott K - point number 3 relates to this topic about Christians should not be trashing the body (the topic they’re talking about is abortion, but could be applied to eating and drinking stuff that’s not actually real food).
Agree! I was addicted to energy drinks and stopped after worrying heart palpitations. Many are addicted, very unhealthy.
Which would be a valid argument until you look at how many chemicals and carcinogens are in the rest of your foods.
You are free to eat them all
I could get addicted to good real estate deals and I agree about putting anything before God can become idol, especially when it takes time from getting you stuff done.
Great episode and way overdue. I went from Church of Christ legalism to Charismatic legalism. Now the CoC I was with actively involved in evangelism and discipleship so we weren’t the “traditional church.” Either way after 4 years I left.
Well, then (long story short) there was Charismatic legalism as if working out in the gym is self worship. Well it could be like like over eating on Sunday is. Could be and is are two different things.
Well honoring God in your body is not idolatry. Even wanting to look and feel younger is not idolatry and just because it could be doesn’t mean it is.
So yeah Romans 14 is great on this.
Another thing my hair is nearly over my ears and the back can touch my neck. Is it a shame to have long hair. It is if I’m wanting to look like a Corinthian temple prostitute. To use I Corinthians 11 we may as well be consistent and say women has to use head coverings.
No, it usually means the Holy Spirit is leading us to honor God I’m all these things whether it’s music, movies, spending time in prayer as well as working out in the gym, and overall be led by the Holy Spirit.
Me too! I was raised COC then left and joined legalism charismania lol. Now I’m in a Bible believing church balancing things out.
@@gabriellafaithmckenzie I can tell I was in a hurry to write that. Needs some serious editing. And it's funny how that works, legalism. Goes to show legalism is problem in the heart. Grace vs. Legalism is a great topic to study in II Cor 3. I tried explaining to a friend of mine in a Calvary Chapel, Charismatic but teach systematically through the scriptures, and he didn't want to hear anything I had to say. One reason he knew I was a COC back the day and I was telling him if tattoos are so wrong based OT ban then he shouldn't shave his beard. He didn't get it. But as he said he did all kinds of drugs back in the day, and he was delivered from them, but it has compromised his ability to work things out. It's a good thing he was set free from that the way he was.
@@CCR-ew6ke No worries! It was a year ago lol. You know, that is an interesting point to make. It definitely is a heart issue because I tend to lean that way unintentionally. Thank you for your kind words of advice. If you don’t mind me asking what COC did you attend? I find more often then not, I know most of the people in COC lol especially since it’s passed down generation to generation.
@@gabriellafaithmckenzie I was not raised in COC and it wasn't generation to generation. So I lucked out in that (I used to think those raised in COC were spoiled and don't know how easy they have it. Well, at first when I had a more positive view).
I know, that sounds crazy of me to think those kids had it easy. Anyway, I went to Crossroads COC in Gainesville....the controversial one. It wasn't ICOC but it did give rise to the discipleship movement in COC.
And so I was always taught the Holy Spirit indwells the believer until I began to visit other congregations. Crossroads was legalistic in many ways and prideful is the way I saw it.
And so I looked for more COC who were acitve because that would alleviate the idea Crossroads owned the market on evangelism and "being effective for Christ." And so it was good to hear about Richland Hills COC, now The Hills in Ft. Worth, TX. I never went there either but heard about it. I knew a couple from Whites Ferry Road COC who were at Crossroads and they helped me to see things more clearly. After that I left and joined the Army to do so.
*I didn't look to see this was from last year...
The basic way too see these issues is is it getting you closer to christ and helping you live a more holy life and or are you wasting time like for me I go to the gym and I realize you can fall into a trap quick with how others are barely dresses but it helps me sustain from gluttony and hopefully live a longer life to preach the gospel and thats how we should look at these issues per individual and thier life
Pokemon came from the same company as Dungeons and Dragons. They came up with Pokemon to counter the worsening reputation of Dungeons and Dragons. Pokemon is cute and seems harmless....
As a sisterly love, please let us not use the name of the LORD in vain by any forms of expression. The LORD calls this blasphemy and we as Christians need to be careful to use God's name as an expression for His name is Holy. I'm saying this out of love and I pray anyone will take heed to this.
The Sabbath and Feast days are nowhere mentioned in that passage, it's talking about special fast days.
I love action movies but more so crime dramas. I love seeing justice done and the criminals caught. When I am watching a movie and there is a love scene or something that my eyes personal don't wanna see ill either not look leave the room or skip past that scene. One movie saga that comes to mind is James Bond. Loving the dialog guys and one scripture that comes to mind is in Peter where it says grow in the grave and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. Keep up the good work guys as none of us has it completely figured out and that's a good thing because I feel it stresses upon God's children to proactive in seeking such wisdom and discernment as we tarry through this life eagerly awaiting the second coming pf Our Lord!!!
Considering, that not everyone would be at the same level in the body (immaturity, lack of study of the Word, benchwarmers, etc.) how do we go about saying "live by your convictions"?
The monster can literally is just a giant M made claws. Nothing more🤷♀️
When it comes to movies with magic, etc... my rule of thumb is, if its the villain/“bad guy” doing the sorcery, okay fine. But when its the good guy/girl and its glorified, made to look fun or appealing...etc, different story for me.
When it comes to what we use for entertainment, we should be careful. Some scenes or entities in movies aren’t just creativity by the writers. Some of it comes from personal experiences or that of friends, etc. The black shadowy figures seen in some scary movies are also commonly seen by people in real life, they are demons, so I would def have a hard time entertaining myself with that.
Stephen King, who wrote The Shining, did not do it on his own. The images in the movie came straight from what he called his “muse” I believe. He literally wrote what he was told to write and what he physically saw while staying in the Stanley Hotel.
My point is, sometimes we are entertaining ourselves with actual demonic things.
I do agree with the points made in this video, though, just wanted to add my thoughts! 🙂
Great Episode! 🎉
Sadly, the Charismatics in the Philippines did all of these Charismatic Legalisms that you mentioned.
Holy spirit definitely convict's people differently about things not explicitly written or instructed in the bible.
As in Acts, the HS forbade some of the apostles from going into Asia and it would be sin for them to disobey that leading. But that doesn't mean it's sin for all, only those who had that witness of the spirit.
The same can be applied for things today like pokemon, what job to take, harry potter, who to Marry, etc.
Pokémon and Japanese Anime in general are mostly mix of spiritual world and futuristic technology. The spiritual part comes from Japanese folklore in which demons/spirits are common and even if they are bad, you can befriend them. They can be part of anything, usually natural or geographic features like rivers trees or look like forest animals.
Pokémon like most japanese anime source the ideas here.
Amen 👏👏👏👏😎👍👍
We are called out to be separate, be holy as He is Holy. To go along with the pagan gods or the ways of this age, is spiritual idolatry
Guys, I grew up not being able to watch many shows, or even play with certain toys because my mom read "Turmoil in the Toy Box". I don't begrudge it at all. I use discernment, especially with entertainment, and some things Holy Spirit allows me to watch\heart
ead and some He doesn't. There is music that makes my spirit cringe but it doesn't bother my believer friends.
Because He has made us different from one another, it seems logical that our omniscient Father would deal with each of us according to our personalities with our personal weaknesses & strengths. It's easy to know the things the Word shouts; but making doctrine out of its whispers is how cults are birthed. I appreciate this dialogue. It's very Berean.
Not a word about television ? Isn't it a large dangerous open door to the world ? But we cannot force people , we can only instruct them.
Towards the end of your show I would say it's not hard to say no to the things I become knowledgeable to. Just Say No. Things i choose key word choose to say o.k. to after being woke to the knowledge of certain things is choice each of us make and are consciously saying I'll take my chances on judgement day whether I was compromising, pushing past conviction or not when the Holy Spirit convicted me not to do something or participate in something or support something. God bless you brothers though. You have a lot wonderful shows I have watched.
So how would you go about addressing something like if someone listened to the Beatles who had Aleister Crowley on their album cover? Considering their dives into various forms of spiritualism and messages about drugs and other things. Would you say it's probably wise not to listen to them but also that's something to sort out with God? Or even the many other artists who like to wear shirts with Aleister Crowley on them. Really any of the many artists that paint him as a visionary would do. I just chose the Beatles because this came up recently with a fellow Christian.
isn't Aleister Crowley the same as Hitler?.... in spiritual sense? ...leading millions to hell...? So what if he was on the cover. Would you listen to that music also? ....Just a thought
@@Henriette-van-der-Ende I think in a spiritual sense, we're all dead apart from trusting in Christ.
@@Henriette-van-der-Ende Also, when it comes to what you personally listen to, I think it's between yourself and God. I think it's unwise to expose yourself to constant pagan content, but I also think if you like a melody and can let everything else slide right off of you, then praise God.
@@evanbiter2138 Jesus tells us that if even one thing that causes us to sin would be better off removed from our bodies. If you like the melody of one occult song, is it really ok to keep enjoying it knowing the origin of its root and message? It's not a salvation issue, but you're just going to make your life so much harder by opening doors to the occult.
I've got no problems with Harry Potter, but my wife can't because she came out of New Age/ witchcraft.
She tried watching it and she decided she definitely didn't want to.
Your wife is very wise indeed. She is yielding to the guidance of The Holy Spirit not to watch Harry Potter. May The LORD Almighty continue to direct her path and bless her walk with Him along the narrow path, in the Mighty and Matchless Name of Jesus Christ our Blessed Messiah 🙏🏼✝️👑
I came from same background and I do not watch it or allow my boys either.
Oh don't get me wrong, I won't let our daughter watch it.
Unless it's to expose in order to teach the apologetic :)
@@TheNathanMac That's great! good job dad! I think that is super important to educate kids about it and share testimonials too once they are of age to understand. I have been attacked by demons and I have had that conversation with my 15 year old and told him (those movies and new age) it can be a gateway and for him to steer clear.
I played with Pokemon and read 5 of the Harry Potter books when I was a kid, and I never had an interest in witchcraft, because I can discern even as a child fiction from fantasy. I have never felt convicted about watching Star Wars or Lord of The Rings but have actually encountered Jesus through them sometimes. Sometimes God will watch a movie with me and speak to me through them prophetically. God is not legalistic and tends to meet people where they are at.
I prefer Okie-Mon where you round up digital Okie folks in a country bumpkin app. LOL! Just kidding. Great discussion!
My personal conviction is to stay away from anything that doesn't glorify God. If it's "neutral", it's from the world.
Skydiving isn’t glorifying God. Can you skydive?
I've heard about that Disney agenda for two decades now. Warnings from the Christian community. It's a shame because there is a lot of good there as well. But darkness does often disguise itself as light. 🙏