Graphic settings for VPX / Visual Pinball 10.8 and Nvidia - Frame Pacing, POV and Flipper Tricks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- I thought I’ll run through my VPX and Nvidia settings that allow Frame Pacing to work efficiently for low input latency and without stuttering. I show the difference in Frame Pacing input latency between the DirectX and OpenGL (with a little workaround) versions. I also go through some settings in the F12 menu in VPX. I explain my Point of View, as well as refraction and reflection settings. I quickly show the flipper tricks setting in the VPW release of Fish Tales. This amazing option allows controller/keyboard players to use flipper tricks with similar finesse as players with GoldLeaf buttons. I go through my Nvidia settings to explain the use of DLDSR as a lower performance impact alternative for anti-aliasing. I lastly highlight that any sync system, e.g. V-sync or monitor G-/Free-Sync clashes and hinders Frame Pacing from working effectively.
Here is the Frame Pacing FAQ document for you to refer to. The trouble-shooting section goes through several user-supplied solutions - tinyurl.com/Framepacing
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00:00 - Like, like and subscribe, if you like ;-)
00:28 - Video/Graphic options
02:41 - DirectX - Frame Pacing
03:54 - OpenGL - DMD hidden workaround
04:23 - OpenGL - Frame Pacing
05:04 - F12 options menu - Point of View
06:04 - F12 options menu - Table Options
06:48 - F12 options menu - Flipper Tricks
09:06 - Nvidia settings
09:24 - Nvidia settings - Anti-aliasing and DLDSR
11:09 - Nvidia settings - Vertical sync for Frame Pacing
12:04 - Frame Pacing FAQ (link in description)
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This is pure GOLD my friend!!!
Incredibly useful and a great help!! I can't tell you how much I appreciate you knowledge and your generosity to share and do for the community!
Thank you Daniël !!
Thank you very much. Occasionally I like to go back and look at my settings. It's time for me to review since I started using GL with 3D glasses. It's quite a bit of settings that work together, but are in vastly different locations. It's very helpful.
thank you for this, it significantly improved my cabinet gameplay.
Thank you! I was having trouble with the ball having a skipping effect no matter what I did. I cleared out the settings in vpx and used the Nvidia software instead. The video really helped me out!
Great! Glad to hear it helped.
Wow! So a few days ago I had boxy DMDs in VR. #solved with these settings in VPX and nvidia. AND it was the first time I could play the latest VPW Fish Tales without “super lag.” There is still some because of my computer and GPU, but much better than before. Thanks!!
Great!
Awesome advice! I play in VR and this has made everything as smooth as silk. Thank you!
Great! Glad it worked for you.
Awesome guide, much appreciated.
Thanks Dan, this was really helpful.
It solved my problem with the pacing. I had set the framerate to 60fps, which caused the pacing to fail.
Setting it to 0 has given me the correct resuls.
Cheers.
Great! Glad to hear.
very clear...thank you!!
Great video, thank you!
THANKS for sharing!👍
I have a 3 monitor setup with 60hz 4k tv with gaming mode rtx 4060, b550, ryzen 5600, lots of puppacks.
Its unplayable with games like game of thrones .
But now everything plays like a real pinball. Great job thanks.
Great to hear! It should be even better with the latest VPX 10.8 beta under actions on Github.
Yes i have 10.8 beta with windows 11, works fine.
Great video. I didn't have really any issues, but switched to your settings with my RTX 3060ti cabinet with three-screen set-up. I didn't realize some of those Nvidia settings existed. I am curious as to why your kept your POV at Legacy setting instead of Window? I thought you were required to switch to take full advantage of the POV settings?
I'm just playing on desktop, so there is not much difference between the POV approaches for me.
Thanks for the guide
Im a cabinet user with 3 screens,
after appling these settings I now see my backglass and full dmd on the playfield?
If I start pinuppopper screen config, they should be placed correctly.
Do you you know what I need to change to get this working?
great but why in windowed mode i thought exclusive fullscreen is the best mode ingame?
I can't tell you the technical details, but it has been deprecated in Windows 10 according to Niwak who developed Frame Pacing etc. I don't think it makes the biggest difference in performance, so try both if you are curious.
How do you get render and latency to appear at the bottom of the screen like that?
Press F11 while the table is loaded.
Do you have a video or a site posting about your ball file.... i have tried a few, but trying to eliminate use of ball trails as I am going from 120 hertz to 144 soon.
No, I don't. I just take balls that I like in tables and import them into other tables. There are a couple of videos out there demonstrating how to do it.
@@PinStratsDan Thanks, the reflection on balls just looks better on a desktop setup compared to a cabinet setup. Maybe one day the team can change some things...low priority though.
Would these setting still perform well with a 60hz 4k table?
Yes, it should. You can also disable DSR in the Nvidia settings for 4K as you don't need anti-aliasing.
Good video, thanks! Most of the time when I get stutter on a table, it's when the table has lighting effects that use "clicky" flashers. When those kick in, the framerate seems to stutter at the same frequency that the lights are strobing. Is there any way to fix that?
I'm not sure that there is anything easy to do i.e. a script option. Some VPW tables had an option to disable flashers etc., but not in their recent releases. Are you sure that Windows Defender is disabled? That can have quite a big impact on performance.
@@PinStratsDan Good idea, I'll double check on that.
Would open gl
Work with pin up popper?
@@kdub1159yes, it can.
I have found that going into the B2S settings by clicking your mouse on your back glass, then increasing skip lamp frames and skip solenoid frames can help with this kind of stutter significantly. Start at 3 frames and increase gradually until the stutter is gone. Works like 90% of the time for me.
Any programs you recommend to disable windows defender??
Yes. I can't remember the name now but I included it in the Frame Pacing FAQ. If I didn't, let me know and I'll look it up for you.
Hello, great Video!
I'm looking for the alt Color DMD file (ROM Colorizations) for fish tales as shown in your video. Can you send me the alt color DMD file / or provide a link to download? The vpuniverse no longer has it for fish tales. best greetings, alex
Yes, sure. Please send me an email.
I have a challenge for you can you run attack from mars g5k version and no lag hitting the saucer or is that game have a bad script on it?
There are a few tables with script issues. The VPX developers have recently figured out how to show and eliminate script performance issues. They also fixed in VPX a flasher performance bug that leads to better performance on most tables. Basically, all new tables and updates that will release from VPW and their collaborators will run much better than before, especially on the latest VPX 10.8 (not 10.8.1 for now) under actions on Github.
@@PinStratsDanI have 10.8 and attack from mars still has some issues with the saucer hitting it looks like lots of people have this issue thank you soo much for your guide
Hello! 👋
What gpu are you using?
RTX 3060
Nice video.... unfortunately frame pacing gives my ball microstudder even on simple tables... I tried all your suggestions. Maybe its my Sony TV i use as a playfield for my cabinet. Fish tales is probably the most demanding table. I can run most tables in 4k at 120 fps steady, this one I have to run at 2k and to get 120 fps steady.
Thanks! If if you get stready frame rate otherwise, then it will be a setting somewhere that causes micro-stutters in Frame Pacing. Take a look at the troubleshooting section in the Frame Pacing FAQ if you haven't yet.
@@PinStratsDan months later I finally figured out the cause of microstudder on my main cabinet when using frame pacing....... the monitor overdrive settings was the culprit. My monitor has 5 different settings... default is "1" , I assumed that was 1 was off or the least amount of overdrive...... setting to 3 eliminated the microstudder , any other number produced some type of microstudder .
@user-kx5fz2tj6j great! Glad you figured it out.