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- Filmed on then day of Local Elections in the UK, May 2 2013. UKIP gained a record number of seats shaking up the political establishment at Westminster. Classic debate with Dimbleby in the Chair. An edited version.
View the full Programme here:
Part 1 • David Starkey Harriet ...
Part 2 • David Starkey Harriet ...
Dimbleby was laughing and smiling until he was called out, what a slimebucket
Did you catch when he had a dig at Jacob Rees Mogg about him attending Eton. JRM replied "Yes that's right David, I was there with your son" Boom!
Like the Snow family. It is all about knowing the right people.
@@cyclist68that was epic
Its fascinating watching this 9 years later after the 2016 referendum. I often find Starkey is an old git but he was absolutely bang on here. And his summary of the backgrounds of the other people on the panel is also bang on.
Yes, but he's a preening, arrogant twat.
Wow. Are you watching from the future?!
@@Daveinnorfolk not the brightest, are you, dave?
David Starkey would probably agree with you that he can be an old git.
David Starkey has his plusses and minuses just like anyone. I didn't like his attitude towards Laurie Penny. However here he is totally accurate and needed. We actually needed someone of his intellect and strength of character to take down the hypocritical Harriet Harman and the complacent Shirley Williams. I am not on the right like Starkey is, but we deserve better than this champaign Socialist and this disgustingly smug Liberal both of whom are from privileged backgrounds.
Great to see David Dimbleby squirming. He looked terrified because its so true.
“ leave me out of it” dimbleby !
He was laughing until he was called upon
@@serenityinside1 true isn’t it, a pure product of BBC elitism
Just watch the Question Time clip where he points out that Jacob Rees Mogg went to Eton...... He squirms even more at Moggs response! 😁
@@neilcraig7254 stupid of Dimblebore to say that. Like a lot , if not all, high achievers who have enjoyed a privileged background, socially, economically, educationally, they prefer to attribute their success down to personal brilliance and hard work rather than good fortune. Look at the buffoon who is our current PM
they totally missed the point of what was said by starkey, they copped out by choosing to take it as a personal attack, when really what he was saying is that there's a big disconnect between public opinion and political decision making because of an echo chamber effect in the govt/media establishment
doesnt make it any less true
It's a fair point, though he uses a very small sample set of two on the right who came up from "nowt," the first time he's probably ever used that word, to back up his spurious claim that it's a liberal left issue. The House of Lords is hardly full of Che Guevara posters. We've just had almost the entire Johnson family from the right on our reality TV screens.
@@glammer Quite right. His implication that only liberals or the left-wing share and hand down places in the media or polity is utter baloney. The panel of any given Question Time is not representative of the establishment as a whole.
Don't follow leaders and watch the parking meters.
@@sassquatch72apeape10 I'm on the pavement, thinking about the government
Those were the days when a discussion could be had.
Not really, it's just worse now than it was
Call this a discussion?
Harriet Harman sat opposite me on a train from St Pancras, whilst her PA sat next to me. Ms Harman decided to talk to her PA requesting that she ask me a couple of questions. She did that at least twice in my earshot ( as if I was death). Rude, arrogant, out of touch and stupid is how I describe her. David Starkey was spot on about her.
No surprise to hear this !!
@@timcolledge3732 You can hear it because you are not death, I mean deaf.
He was. She is a very irritating and arrogant woman. David Starkey is RIGHT.
@@RichieBedfellows typical leftie, go on, cancel me 🤣😂
She is also an enabler of the worse type of predator and I'll leave it there. Do your own research , skeletons dwell in her cupboard.
Yes, the Coren children are certainly a bunch of 'system workers', can you imagine that Giles ever getting a job on merit?
At least Victoria is slightly clever, Giles really is thick
Harperson might like to remember that when she joined the House of Commons, there was a woman Prime Minister. That women fought to prove that women could do the job equally as good, or better as a man. Harmen fought for positive discrimination so that women could get jobs regardless of whether they were the best person for it.
@uklum 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Harriet Harman claims credit for something Barbara Castle achieved long before she came in.
And Margaret Thatcher
I do not like former-"wheel-on" or "go-to prof"* Starkey for the BBC.
However, on this occasion , he knocks it out of the park - and with the validation of hind-sight, correctly identified the missing 50% or more disconnected moiety of the electorate that voted Brexit in June 2016. A shock for the other 50% of the electorate represented by "politics as a profession" panelists like Harmann.
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*regardless of topic/expertise required
Starky is rude, but most of what said was true and he was spot on with UKIP. Brexit only happed because of a weak government failed, allowing a strong voice in UKIP to succeed.
In what way did Harriet Harman fight for equal pay, given that the Equal Pay Act was enacted in 1970 and she became an MP in 1997?
She Became an MP in 82, but you're right . The left like to pretend they are out confronting grave injustices (Crobyn and Abbott) when most of that work is already done.
B.T.W. P.I.E. means Paedophile Information Exchange. I believe her husband was affiliated with the group. He became like her a Labour MP.
Harriet Harman became an MP in 1983.
@@PeterRIGBY08 Thank you. Albeit the point stands then.
Harrit Harman worked alongside PIE in the 80'S
Starkey is spot on. He calls out the privileged who pretend to be likecthecrest of us, their goal is power, they are narcissistic in the full bodied meaning of the word.
He's a horrible, self-obsessed Prick, and his comment here are him to a tee. Yes. He came from humble beginnings, but he sure as shit ain't humble now, because he now views himself as an elitist academic who is cleverer than his peers. I came from nowt. I have stuff now, and so I don't want to give my taxes up.
You can almost excuse a privileged person for being a snob, because they were brought up to be self-entitled and know no different.
He, in the other hand, us the worst kind of snob. A working class one. A little rat, who climbs a ladder and then promptly pulls it away from anyone else, to stop them from being able to climb it.
He'd never be spot on if he lived to be 150 years
@@johnwaters9899 If you think he's the one who's pulled up the ladder, you have your head up your jacksie. Absolutely clueless.
The privileged have a huge sense of entitlement.
Starkey has a point here but he's such an attention-seeking provocateur that he trips over his ego while making it.
Has a point here? But he was proved to be wrong in his views -Wasn't he?
His attention seeking ego is his point.
That's true
Starkey can trip on his own ego as many times as he wants as long as he is totally correct in his description of the privileged nobody’s that make no contribution to the working class’s fight for a better life.
But he makes no pretence ar false modesty and that's an honest position. Unlike the ego-based virtue signallers who delude themselves.
If you come from a working class background in the UK it is very difficult to move up the ladder and it is dominated by middle class establishment figures from the media to politics to business such as Coren, Harmen, and both sides of the house.
i'd disagree with this, you can climb the ladder, in fact a majority of working class people have done precisely that since thatcher and then blair made social mobility a key part of their bribery to the british people at the cost of...well, the rest. however, you will probably only get so far up the ladder before realising just how big it really is. the middle class is now huge, however the differences between the lower middle classes and upper middle classes has probably never been greater.
Vote Labour and climb up the greasy pole
@Aero01 not really, many 'succeed'. that's the point, blair's britain was all about giving out participation medals. half of people under 40 will have degrees. the trick is giving people the illusion of social mobility. you're woefully out of date thinking it's 'the rich', as if we're still in 1922, who make it difficult for success to happen. wrong! true success is impossible because exceptionalism is denied to those who aspire to be something more than being a cog in the machine.
Edward Heath, Margaret Thatcher, and David Starkey made it, but it was certainly hard for them.
@@HP-tm4kj you have no idea. the last 20 years has been an exercise in giving people all sorts of leg ups in to working fr multinationals. many people who became middle class in the 80s and 90s got managerial jobs of one sort or another. and owning your own business as a way to succeed? you must be dreaming. after the last 4 years? it's not the 1950s.
11 years later , we don't know what women are
The very last point made by Ms Coren, that peaceful protesting is ignored, is spot on, and something I have always said. Its the reason we are allowed to do it.
Fascinating to watch this now after nearly three years of our protest vote to leave the EU being totally ignored. Starkey was spot on in describing the disconnect between the cosy elites and the lowly working and welfare classes.
Yet Starkie is a member of s cosy privileged elite
@@folksinger2100
Well, as he says, he wasn't born into it. He had to put the work in. I think it's called meritocracy. Or should no-one rise and better themselves in your book?
@@alftupper9359 Almost everyone thinks they 'put the work in'. Most people on earth, no matter how privileged, believe that. It doesn't make them right.
And your nauseating fantasy land britain, the ';lowly working classes' and the 'cosy elites', is like something out of a Victorian baron's most fatuous reveries.
@@thesprawl2361 when the life expectancy between the richest area in the UK to the cheapest is nearly 30 years I'd say there is a cosy class and lowly working class
@@thebigspliffdaddy5470 And you think poor ickle Starkey is part of that lowly working class?
i saw this live and thought it was fucking great
Harmen had a hard time when she came into the HoC because she was a woman? She probably wouldn't ever mention Thatchers struggle though when she came into Parliament in 1959 now would she?
Or Barbara Castle, Pat Hornsby-Smith, etc.
Victoria Coren is so irritating. She can't say the simplest of things without a huge surge of "By golly I hope I sound intelligent" running through it
mellowb1rd Everyone hates someone. Sometimes for the the weirdest of reasons. Makes you feel glad to be born into this world
mellowb1rd yes shes the typical pseudo intellectual bourgeois ideologue.
mellowb1rd True, but you would, wouldn't you?
Nickel arse After that twats been there!! Probably not.
thunderc45 Yeah, fair point. Having taken that on board, I probably wouldn't.
"hereditary journalist/comedian" spot on.
Like Starkey, you say Coren has no comedic talent. I disagree. and while we're about it, how many poker tournaments had daddy won?
fhebbert
Where? I didn't say that she has no talent and neither did Starkey. That was not the point or at least not mine. I don't think she is talentless and it is not a criticism of her - far from it. She has however followed (at least in respect of her role as a journalist/comedienne) in her father's footsteps. Not her fault of course but one cannot help but suspect that some of her success (at least initially at least) may owe something to her father...just like Dimbleby himself. I suppose it is therefore a mixed blessing to have a famous parent!
Ugh he's so correct
He’s right about these silver spoon people who don’t care about anyone but themselves
Harman being as hypocritical as usual with an equally condescending answer
Harriot Harman, Victoria Coren and Shirley Williams, shown up for what they are by a brilliant historian and anylast. When parliament goes, these three stooges will go with it. Let's make it sooner, rather than later.
Harriot and Victoria left.
That's what I call exposure thank you mr starkey.
Harriet Harman was almost crying at the end after exposure to the truth of her life.
Shirley Williams answers the question. People vote UKIP not because they are racist, it's because they are sick of formula politics.
UKIP has allot of racists in the party, but that is quite irelevent. As they've become more popular they have no doubt felt isolated by the more mainstream views that aren't racist. You're spot on, people vote for them because they're sick of the mainstream parties.
I won't vote for them, but i cringe whenever anyone dismisses them as racists. It's just arrogant
theonlylampshade Do a google search and you will find members of the other political parties are just as racist . Not that thats a good thing its not .
@@fredrich99 I feel that everyone is racist, the way you know if they let it affect how they act is the effort they put into educating themselves on racial politics, not just by people like themselves, but also the people who are worse off from it.
David Starkey is a legend. BY FAR the most intelligent person in the room.
Have you changed your mind about this now he's been sacked for rascism?
@Catherine Hill It's not about my opinion, it's about the racism.
@@samlangdon9879 It was a stupid joke, get over it!
Starkey is an old fusty dinosaur with old dusty opinions. Don’t let the veneer of old well spoken English man fool you. He’s rarely said anything worthwhile.
David was the most intelligent person in his own mind, that's for sure...
but you cant burst the bubble of these people obviosly they are so wise and intelligent that cant be put down
You can always tell when someone is used to privelage in their daily lives, they 'see' and 'identify' with the struggles the working class have to put up with. Yeah, just until they go around the corner and wash their hands.
I think that those who dislike David Starkey are always unwilling to accept the uncomfortable truths of the world!
He might have a point here but he ruins it all by being a racist piece of shit.
Such as all tories are scum
That's hilarious. Uncomfortable truths i e. what you agree with. Also, whatever his political views hes just naturally loathsome. Dropped by university and publisher for racist remarks presumably for promoting those uncomfortable truths. Forced to apologise later so had to admit his mistake
God Bless you David Starkey
There is no God and if there was he wouldn't bless that obnoxious piece of work
Haha david starkey doesnt give a damn
Specifically about facts
Adam Balding Protesting a bit too much? Enjoying yourself by the sound of it.
He does, but about what matters and not about virtue signalling.
david starkey is epic. it was awesome when he called out the smug tw4ts on that panel for being lucky heirs who didnt have to struggle and they got triggered ( especially dimbleby) LOL bravo, starkey!
100% correct. David Starkey nailed all of them.
He's right, he's a popping jay but he's right.
Starkey was right here. Koren is so elitist she was stoutly defending an Oligarch personal friend of hers the other day. She was born into privilege and has reaped the benefits since.
Great pair of jugs though.
Victoria Coren gives a dignified response, and anyway beats David Starkey hands down in the only department that really matters: having great norks.
We had already had a female prime minster for three years when Harmen became an MP
"Don't you patronize me.." Girl, you would be a nobody if it weren't for the patriarchs and matriarchs in your family whose coattails you rode in on...
Starkey is absolute class.
The “clowns and fruitcakes” certainly did have the last laugh.
Whether you like David Starkey or not, you cannot deny that he speaks his mind.
Yeah shame that mind is full of pompous tory nonsense
Exactly EladTrebor. He doesn't speak for validity, he speaks for self-attention. He's always done it. He never answers a single question without looking down his nose and snearing at something or someone.
He did it here. He smears an entire group of people and patronises every one if then in the process, then spits his dummy out and says "I won't be condascended to" when he gets a taste of his own medicine and the journalist lass makes him look a silly little boy.
He's got his head so far up his own arse it's a wonder he doesn't choke on it. If does explain why he talks shit, though.
@@robdale88 Better than pompous Labour nonsense
@@CanadianMonarchist I know you are, you said you are, but what am I
i remember watching this at the time and how how wrong was i. david starkey spoke the truth and the other ppl are proper cowards.
he's the coward, calling people but he daren't look them in the eye for a second.
As usual David destroys the weak politically-correct out of touch hacks that are so typical of Question Time
David Starkey brilliant...
How the hell could Dave Dimbles for a minute consider he was free from the classic BBC nepotism tribes. The royal lineage of BBC Dimbleby will likely reign longer than the House of Hanover! My god didn't those leg-up merchants squirm with the notion their presence was merely on the back of their parent's talent
He's wonderful.....
Coren got to her place totally through her father.
Her father was a world class poker player?
@@robcousins231 easy to keep a poker face when you've still got a cool million in trust funds
could've spent years learning and practicing, given that she didn't have to work for a living
give me a fat cash injection and a few months to train, I'd be a top dog in no time
@@core-nix1885 No you wouldnt.
If only Coren did think about that responsibility.
I think his point was more about a general feeling amongst the electorate, not (perverse as it may seem), about what politicians have actually achieved. They'd long gone off topic by the time Harman started defending her position. I think it's an entirely fair point to say that there is a kind of educated and often London-centric elite which feeds directly into the political party system (and other 'high flying' areas), and which most people have no point of relation to whatsoever.
He's right mr starkey on privilege.
9 years on and the UK is out of EU: Result !
Starkey is right on the money as always.
Dimbleby was finally de-throned from QT and his brother from the BBC's Any Questions. Coren, is as smug as her father was.
and how is the country better than 10 years ago?
Starkey what an awful human being
He isn't bn patronising condescending etc he's talking the truth.
Good old David Starkey
Starkey slapped some truth around but unfortunately didn't have any support for the backlash. He is unabashedly honest and I love him for that.
na, he is a condescending narcissist. entitled racist.
vicoria has come from a safe space of luxury david was spot on no wonder it touched a nerve her husband will be outraged as a man from cambridge its all a stich up by these so called better than you brigade robert webb is just as bad
ultimately starkey is correct.
this is fantastic. found it by chance and I'm glad I did. starkey is great!
He is brilliant and has balls of steel
Do your thoughts often turn to other men's testicles? Do you find images of those dangly hairy wrinkly things often in your mind?
No idea who David Starkey is but he's spot on here.
Both his Parents are from Bolton, moved to Kendal for work, David was born there and went to Kendal Grammer School.
He’s a famous historian of Tudor England.
God I love Starkey. Holding a mirror up to the smug satisfied new establishment. Dimbleby is definitely a hereditary journalist as is Harman (oh boohoo I'm a woman isn't it so stuff - the moron went to St Paul's School and was the child of doctor and barrister, she still couldn't get into Oxbridge).
wow remember when question time was
actually entertaining.
Fiona Bruce should go back to talking to old folk, getting grannies vase valuated.
Starkey is the academic historian version of Jonny Rotten :)
of Nigel Farage more like
I didn't say she has no talent and neither did Starkey. That was not the point.
He’s speaking some sense.
Good old David Starkey putting these political elite in their place
G_d Bless - Dr Starkey
It's odd to watch Starkey place the class card. It's the politics of lacking policy though, the lack of real answers. You don't need results, you just need the voters to dislike the other guy more. And class, race, and principles, are all weaponry when you lack ideas.
@John Morris absolutely; it's perverse when the likes of Farage, Reese-Mogg, even Johnson, present themselves as representing the interests of working-class people. It doesn't take to much searching and back-reading to find who they really represent, and who their political ideologies benifit. And, it's not the ordinary person, that's for sure.
@@waftychizler3994The trouble is that Labour also seems unable to appeal to the ordinary voter. Their last leader from a working class background was Neil Kinnock.
When QT was worth watching. Haven't watched it since it became woke, and panelists became frightened to say what they really think, or dare not speak about elephants in the room, for fear of backlash, so just speak in platitudes instead.
Alot of the what the BBC does is woke & biased, not just QT...why i cancelled my TV licence.
@@martinjohnson9316 there’s endless cringe in nearly every single programme and column the BBC produces.
I don’t blame you for cancelling. It’s painful and alienating.
@@rebellion2054 The BBC wokeness has even spread to the radio ''World service'' overnight. I am sick of tuning in at say, 3am, thinking i'll be safe from it and there's a programme about LGBT black americans being disadvantaged in 1960's USA. Nothing against that minority of people per se, BUT you'd think they were a majority, the number of programmes the bbc makes about them. Bias in action!
Starkey is a baller.
To me, the most jealous one is Starkey. He makes a good point but then ruins it by bleating on about his mother. As if to say "Your work for women is hypocritical and meaningless because you had a wealthy upbringing." I hate it when people indulge in competitive struggle/poverty stories.
David Starkey,s childhood was totally working class and he made his own way in life.. and the panel HATE him for that .
Then what’s with that accent? Lol. Such a fake.
@@lc1715 Look at his childhood.. He made a conscious effort to change his accent when he went to Cambridge so as to blend in with the toffs around him.
Your right Starkey is a fake.. a working class fake who’s been hiding in plain sight for over 50 years .. A Working class disabled ( he was born with 2 club feet) gay man .. or is he putting his sexuality on as well according to you ?
He was born and raised in Bolton, his father worked in a washing machine factory and his mother a cotton weaver and some time cleaner .. Yeah white privilege indeed 🤔👍
You think Starkey is the only person in the world who’s changed his accent to fit in ? If you judge a person by what they sound like rather than what they say then that’s a sad day for you .. 🤦♂️
@@mashbury Triggered
@@lc1715 Well I’m not the one judging a man by his accent .. I assume you also judge people by the colour or their skin , their religion or who they decide to sleep with .. or is it just posh sounding people you hate ?
@@lc1715In David Starkey’s day it was assumed that if you were educated you would speak RP English.
David is right as usual!
Thanks for a good chuckle.
You gotta love Starkey..! You're always guaranteed some argey-bargey when he's on any panel.
Bravo sir! 🎉
3:01 Justine trying not to grin like a Cheshire cat
You've got to admire Starkey's chutzpah in giving himself a licence to be right wing because he "came up from nowt"
I think that’s a likely outcome. Against-the-odds success often seduces people into believing in a functioning meritocracy, leading them to right-wing ideas. It’s a very “I made it; what’s your excuse?” way of looking at the world.
sTARKEY DUG HIMSELF IN WITH THE FAR RIGHT NOW
Stopped watching this a long time ago. No David Starkey, no George Galloway, no point.
Victoria Coren the only sensible one there by far. Starkey off on one - "my mum used to scrub floors" oh grow up!
The women having a go at him were all ignoring the point he was making either deliberately or because they didn't understand it.
Shame this panel missed the mark completely? Why is there a need for a protest vote and has the government now realised they need to be seen to be addressing the issues all of a sudden as an election come along ? UKIP isn’t the NF of 2024 just look now at France 🇫🇷 their people have had enough and many more countries will follow including the U.K. 🇬🇧
Harman so quick to bring up the angle on gender equality when described (accurately) as an hereditary careerist. Yet Starkey also mentioned Greening as the only other panellist to come from 'nowt'. Thus if he was offending Harman somehow for her gender; he was doing the opposite for Greening, which shows an equality of opinion regardless of gender.
Starkey could also have mentioned that the Tory cabinet was stuffed to the rafters with old Etonians and that Nigel Farage went to Dulwich College but oooops he forgot to mention that in his partisan attack on the other panelists. Ultra cool twice European poker champion Victoria Coren Mitchell shut him up without even batting an eyelid.
He was talking about wealthy B.S "liberalism" (addressed TO the panel & presenter!!), he Didn't say or imply the TORIES have an understanding how the public feels!
Coran didn't give an answer about hereditary wealthy B.S "liberalism"!
Coran said "her dad was a writer?...so she wanted to impress him" and then she made a joke about her inducing people to vote UKIP.... shut him up?...avoided!
His point was these "liberals" are insulated from real public opinion by current and hereditary wealth (as are most M.Ps, sports and media stars)
@@an-albumhole4400 it was just a cheap, personalised attack. It’s his brand: knock the “ liberal elite” who are apparently responsible for all of Britain’s social and economic woes. Cheap tabloid territory similar to the “liberal enemies of The People” bull shit stirred up by the Daily Fail. It always appeals to people who constantly look for scapegoats to explain their own failings. In Victoria Coren’s case it was stupid: she has twice been European poker champion earning over €1 million in prize money. She isn’t dependent on inherited wealth. She had no say over who her father was and has made the best of her opportunities. Starkey was once an engaging historian. But it didn’t pay nearly as well as being a tabloid or TV, ahem, “controversialist” or, in more vulgar parlance, a shit stirrer.
Victoria Coren deflated Starkey
You can’t stump the Starkey
Harriet Harmann should be remembered for fighting for P.I.E. along with her partner.
The working classes were so fed up with rich liberals telling them how to live, it ultimately led to Brexit, protest vote indeed it was…
Starkey-slapped their nepotistic lips off into the car park lol, magnificant moment, silenced but currently re-emerging like the veritable pheonix, I wish him well
Me too. It says everything about how low the BBC has sunk, that they w'ont have him appear again for one mistake he made (and publicly apologised for) yet one of their mainline presenters can get away with the same 'crime' yet still be in a job.
great viewing
Excellent David Starkey.
Victoria Coren - she then was - has found happiness and acknowledge that she was lucky to find David Mitchell. He in turn has expressed how much he loves her. Their engagement and wedding were joyfully traditional.
David Starkey, content to resort to irrelevant ad hominems in response to a question about the Eastleigh by election, makes me wonder whether he is ever happy as a gay right winger.
Colin Baker How is describing each of the panellists family backgrounds an ad hominem? Starkey didn't insult their characters in the slightest, he simply reminded people of something worth taking into account when progressing the debate. He was making a wider point about the detachment from the political and media classes from the ordinary person by highlighting their family history (as a historian he is well qualified to do so), which underpinned his argument about the vacuum that UKIP inhabited.
Harriet Harman plays the 'i'm for all women' card but Starkey is correct to say female liberation favours richer, well-connected women like her first and foremost - that is not an ad hominem attack because it is rooted in historical fact. Why do you think there have been repeated attempts, or waves, of feminism down the years instead of one swift, continuous movement? The wave has fallen in accordance with the wealthiest among their ranks achieving their desired level of parity on their own agendas, but then the women's movement rises up again when suddenly that isn't enough for the affluent women anymore. Wealth is a sickness because absolute power corrupts absolutely, and lust for power is never slaked.
He was referring to their backgrounds to make the point that only he and Justine Greening got anywhere without a family leg up. If even we disagree on that, it had nothing to do with the Eastleigh by election, which was what the question was about.
There are pundits from left and right whose appearances on Question Time leave the impression that they live lives without happiness.
I think Victoria Coren Mitchell makes an excellent point, that we shouldn't be insulting each other, but listening. I think what we need in this country is proportional representation, so that people who have different viewpoints can feel that their vote will count, that a party which more more or less represents them can get into government. This will open up discussion, and reduce the amount of point scoring that goes on.
Know nothing about Starkey but he came across as a bit of a pompous rude dude.....didn't like letting the women speak without interruption that's for sure. How awesome is Coren tho.
“I really won’t be patronised “ says the man who patronised the rest of the panel and made comments in 2011 that were patronising and dodgy!
he made an observation...all the 'progressives' middle-class -upper class..working class were conservative....Coren was the snide one.
Harriet Harperson is outed and so can't cope with it that she is nearly beside herself with tears of indignation!
Harman is exactly what he said she is. A rich convent school girl related to titled people. Ellen Wilkinson she is not. The people’s flag is deepest red, as long as it isn’t flying over the posh school I went to.
Starkey is so correct!!! They hate the truth! I am a huge fan of Mr Starkey and of people who speak the truth!