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Is Assetto Corsa Competizione Still as Bad as I Remember?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2020
- It's been nearly 2 years since ACC - the 'premier' GT3 racing sim - first came into early access. We take a look into its recent history, how far its come, and whether I was too dismissive of it based on initial impressions.
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I like ACC more and more as time goes on. In my opinion, the force feedback, sounds, and overall feel of the car is far superior to any other game out there at this point.
yeah - to bad the game is hard on the eyes in vr (even on my i9, 2080rtx) - i bet a triple screen setup elevates this to whole different levels
@@Cifer_YT I have both, triple monitor is beautiful but VR is still my go-to since its so much more immersive. And after some tweaking it really looks okay in VR
@@Cifer_YT just a 3060ti and it's still rubbish in vr. Seems like 3090 is the only card that runs it trouble free. Shocking.
@@1000sofusernames since the last patch it doesnt give me a headache anymore but its still far from a modded assetto corsa or dirt 2 :( - yeah i fear the 3090 is going to fix a lot of the performance issues in vr. Especially if vr-apps can use the ai upscaling... but the price makes me cry^^
@@Cifer_YT I play this in VR with same hardware and mine is great, dunno what you're doing wrong and as a plus, it's the only one of all of them where you don't need a keyboard and mouse to adjust settings.
What, it’s an amazing sim now really
I think ACC has the best feeling of all sims, I can feel the limit on my car, and I own a Logitech G29, even when the G29 has a weak FF, I can still feel the grip limit, and a lot of detail of what's going on with the car and the road.
dergrunepunkt I am using g29 too, but i think that AC1 ffb give me much more detail and confidence... Did u use LUT file in ACC? Or maybe can u share your ACC settings?
I also have a G29 wheel but I can't seem to get the settings right. Can you share your settings on ACC, please?
Nah that goes to race room
even real GT3 drivers say ACC is the best sim for gt3 cars and have the most realistic feel
@@imbana2 I use stock settings
ACC re-sparked my interest for a more serious driving, something that both RF2 and/or iRacing failed to do.
Have you recently driven GT3 in iRacing? How does that compare from a driving feel for you to RF2 and ACC? I have been on iR for quiet a while and am on the fence for ACC and RF2.
For me acc is the best sim atm, really enjoying it. Never really thought it was bad, especially if you compare the physics and tyre model to iracing which is where i came from.
For those who don't realize yet: developers these days release games BEFORE they are at the point where they should be released. They will tell that is because they get "community feedback" in order to "improve the game" but the reality is that it allows to cash earlier. Today, it's all about hypes and being faster than the competition. Quality, well, that has been set on the lower priorities. ACC is a nice example of that. The "community feedback" however is necessary, but it shouldn't be used to improve the basics of the game, it should be used to improve the details. You all figure out what is what, but you can tell the first is going on if a game changes in a big way, at the early phase of market release. I'm not talking about adding tracks or cars, that is something else.
yea games as a service is a cancer on the industry, and it blatantly shows how shareholders come before customers these days.
yep, remember the days when game develepors used to hire game testers, now they charge us for the privilage
Acc got me obsessed with sims, I didn't even know it was so bad at first, other than the lame ffb. Well, it could still have better ffb but I could spend hours on it
Good points. One thing ACC desperately needs to improve on is VR performance. Not only does the game look extremely blurry and/or pixelated compared to other sims in VR, but the performance when driving on your own can be hit and miss, while racing with AI tanks the framerate completely. It is somewhat playable if you can live with that, and I so wish that Kunos gave the VR version more optimization. ACC feels speedy and looks clear on a 4K flatscreen but VR is so much more immersive. AMS2 and rFactor 2 do a much better job with it than ACC and that's sad.
"optimization" ok I will stop you there...
UE4 is shit at vr that's all. There is not many vr game built on UE4 for a raison
Will be interesting to see if they live over to UE5
Hi! First, a fine recap of ACC development. I've had ACC since february, when it just hit version 1.3 and was allready in a pretty good shape overall.
When you're talking about car behaviour when driving across anti-cut (around 27:10), I belive that behaviour simulates the splitter hitting the high sausage curb, which bounces the car, hence such an abrupt reaction (no rubber involved there :). However, I totally agree with the notion that ACC would benefit from a more rubbery feel, as you describe it.
Recently, I went out and tried some other sims (rF2, R3E, AC, AMS2), but the general polish of several game aspects made me come back to ACC.
Really enjoying your videos, they're super helpful and you never just waffle on when talking it's always relevant and useful information. And you've got a good, clear voice for commentary. Keep up the good work.
Are you going to compare to the GT4s/GT3s & GTEs in iRacing - be curious to your opinion of them on that platform - keep up the great videos
This games feels AMAZING on the accuforce v2 and the cloud tuning takes it to a new level.
Cloud tuning?
Yeah same question...
Yes, cloud tuning. Simexpirienece has collected data from users for thousands of cars and tracks across many different sims and with this features, cloud sourced FFB is applied to all official content and almost all mods out there for these select sims.
VRinMotion exactly. Sorry I just saw these responses. Cloud tuning has changed sim racing for me. I just click the cloud tuning profile for whatever sim I want to hop into, adjust the overall strength, and have great force feedback! I haven’t had to fuss with settings since. It has taken iRacing from a pretty bland experience to feeling about as good as anything out there. I had very little interest in iRacing with a Clubsport V2 but now I really enjoy it.
Oh thanks for the responses guys. Took a recent break from racing but this is good to know for the future.
Cool to hear Northlane in the intro, did you mix that album or do you just like the music?
I mastered that one. Nolly handled the mix. Glad you liked it; thought it'd be a good fit.
@@Ermz good to know :)
@@Ermz holy shit I just realized you are "that" Ermin, at first I thought it just was a coincidence. Love your work and book man
All that's cool man. Mega dope job. Northlane popped up in my playlist today right after veil of maya. You should check out berried alive ytube channel song fuego is dopeth-cam.com/video/qHa5ZQIMAzQ/w-d-xo.html
Hmm, I bought ACC a few months ago, shortly after that big update IIRC, and... I don’t know. Granted, my admittedly old rig can’t handle it full bore (I can only practice alone), and overall, driving the cars feels decent, but I have come across situations where I have encountered the classic “iceRacing syndrome”, where once I lose grip on asphault, it’s an endless slide all the way into the grass - and no amount of laying off the pedals or trying to course correct will save you (EDIT: I was still listening to this video as I typed, and just as I hit Submit, you mentioned this at the 21 minute mark, haha).
My other big gripe (not so much KS’ fault) is that you CANNOT run triple screen without enabling nVidia Surround (or Eyefinity if you have a Radeon). Surround is a buggy mess, andI just don’t like the ill effects of those bugs. Thankfully, rFactor and iRacing hace easy workarounds for running triple without having to enable it, so it’s disappointing that the Inreal engine cannot support “borderless windows” to work with a multi-monitor desktop managed by Windows. Hopefully, this is something that they can work out with Epic to see if it can be addressed.
But, as you say, Kunos appears to be in it for the long haul, so I’m willing to give it a go every once in a while when major updates are released - and hopefully, I will also have better equipment later this year to enjoy it at full bore.
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I liked this comment before reading. Does that count? :) Great video - really informative!
I don’t really understand blind faith to one side. Get the FPS fixed and I’d be all over ACC...in between rF2 sessions lol 😂. Seriously though, Kunos, Reiza and Studio 397 are really wonderful developers.
I haven't played RF2 but the ACC behaviour when hitting anti cuts seems quite realistic when comparing the size of the things. They are GT cars and not road cars or off road vehicles which would also break at those speeds
After 20 minutes of glorifying the game you got to the point. I guess they plan a 2.0 release and with most of the content taking over, the best feature they could implement are better physics and the single player campaign has lots to be desired as well. You should also check out Raceroom, since it's IMO as good or better than rF2 since their physics-update, even with it's empirical tyre-model. If you don't feel it, check you FFB. The vertical load should be your dominant force and i'm running it on 135% with the rest below 50 or off.
Ermin Hamidovic ! Can you do a similar video on the original Asseto Corsa??
Another great vid mate. I'm about to go onboard just because of the GT4 pack coming. RF2 is also my fav so far, but this pack I'm waiting for ages! Cheers!
Is there a video showing your DD1 in game and on wheel settings for RF2, AMS2, ACC, AC & R3E along with which fanatec driver you’re on etc?
On another note the content on your channel is great since it’s quite unique and to the point. Keep up the good stuff. Cheers 🍺
Great review. I'm pretty new to sim racing but ACC has got me hooked. I've just swapped out my thrustmaster tmx for the ts-pc racer and oh my what a difference, its true kinda what they say "you get what you pay for"
There is definitely more to like about ACC than hate in its current state and i totally agree with you about the lack of FF detail especially at the front end. Go play AMS2 for an hour then swap to ACC and it's like, where did the FF go?
Agree.
I can feel understeer pretty well, but its definitely not as strong as AMS2. But AMS2 is missing a lot of other FFB, such as very small slides, so eye for an eye... but i'd say that its way more important to feel oversteer than understeer
Agree, but im not sure if it is my problem... because i am using g29 and i cant feel the ffb give me enough information... For me the best ffb is Assetto Corsa 1~
Jelte Folkertsma some cars for my g29 will be clipping in rf2 😭
Same goes for AC
What are your gfx settings? For me it feels like everything around me is in 640x480.. :/ Ive got it set to the correct resolution and actually set to that also, 1:1. Also, yes this game is still incredibly shit on my T300rs...
have struggled to get good wheel settings for my sc2 pro on this. just cant get the right turn in feel
Absolutely agree, especially on the last part about going over high curbs. ACC feels like driver should lose all his teeth from hard hit like that. For me ACC got better after they fixed the spring bug, somewhere before 1.4 version.
Maybe you should listen to actual drivers who talk about how thats just not the case at all. ACC curbs were much stronger at the start and have been made much more compliant due to the real drivers imput.
@@localrocker666 Well maybe you should stop "listening" to others and start playing other sims, and compare slow motion replays of going over several high curbs.
Thanks for the follow up, Ermin. I truly appreciate the excellent videos that you continue to produce.
ACC has developed its tyre model and car behaviour over time, which has improved the play-ability of the sim. In my opinion, FFB is different ... it should simply relay lateral forces under braking and cornering consistently and realistically. The player should be able to detect understeer, loss of traction, wheel lock-ups, et cetera in an understandable manner. I prefer to turn off road effects (fake FFB) and set up a very light FFB in order to detect the physics details; which, for me, ACC does better than anybody else. I am not as much a fan of AMS2 FFB, even though the effects are outstanding. By the way, I play on a 10 year-old, but still excellent, Fanatec CSR wheel CSR Elite pedals (with load cell brake).
Off topic question. What the song name at the very beginning?
Edit: nvm, it is Northlane - 4D
Is the handeling better then old version and is the new one more fun???
i pulled out my old T150 to give it a go and it felt great on ACC at the current 1.5 update. I mainly use an OSW SC Pro but was curious what is was able to do with entry level wheels and I was quite surprised. I used my modded G29 pedals with the T150 but in terms of FFB, again it felt good as can be expected. An it goes without saying it feels amazing on a DD wheel when tuned to your liking.
I feel the same way about the GT3s in ACC. They're sort of lacking playfulness at the limit. That's also the reason why I stopped driving GT3s. I love how the GT4s feel though, they're so much fun on the limit.
how many fps u reach?Because 60 in mine doesnt seem so nice..
Simple answer to the headline without watching the video: no.
Interesting about low wing detached rear roll bar. IL have to try that to maybe keep up .lol any other tips and tricks.
For what I've seen is that as tire wears on, the dancing becomes more clear, also if you set up the car to be fast, it can also be very "dancy" to drive since it's while it's now faster than a more "stock" setup it is also much more fragile in its handling.
I bought this abouut 6 months ago after it had settled down a bit and have really enjoyed many hours driving about mostly with the blue lighting flashing wildly at me.
does this game has flat tire point? or whatever is that called
Thought my music started playing by itself. Was pleasantly surprised to hear Northlane in a Sim Racing video!
Interesting comment about braking, beta 2 felt amazing (on the brakes) and was actually why I bought ACC after trying a friends copy, but then it was gone in subsequent releases. Overall I feel the complete opposite though, Kunos titles have always had that 'feel' for me of what the car was doing, nKPro had it as did AC. ACC has a slight disconnect, it's AC with a condom, but when I play rF2 I can spin with no warning through the wheel. My reason for not playing ACC is that I find GT3 boring, hopefully their next title is a successor to AC with the features they've added to ACC.
Yess, I want an Assetto Corsa 2 with ACC's features and engine. It could even utilize the new Unreal 5 engine which give it potential to really set a new bar because there really isn't go-to sim, as they're all comprimised in one way or another.
You have a video explaining the two different approaches to tire models like you mentioned..lol well you seemed to a bit in this one but I'd like to know more about them if you have knowledge about the tire models
ACC is amazing IMO, actually joined a great group of folk in the UK for real season racing, brilliant fun
The FF on a DD is awesome. When I got the formula rim and DD1 all of a sudden I could keep the 911 on the track. I totally agree with the sentiments that the game comes alive with a DD and that it allows you to drive at the limit naturally without knowing ahead of time what the car is going to do.
Is that this Sweet Northlane music that i hear on the background?
Completely agree. When the car jumps over a kerb, it just feels like a "magnetic brick", like if the asphalt was made of iron and the car was the magnet xD
I think thas this is a flex tyres problem, they don´t feel like rubber as you said, I hope they work on it because it´s the critical point where they could make the best physics sim in the market (in my opinion).
This tyres problem affect directely to FFB, that´s why i think if they improve that, FFB will be fixed too.
i'd say they definitely do feel like rubber, more so than a lot of other sims, as long as you dont ram a giant kerb, that is.
@@whysoslow1999 sure, i dont say they feel bad in all the situations, but it´s a point to improve for sure if they want one of the best physics and a better FFB
I kinda stepped away from it as well. I've got to give it another try.
how's the vr performance in ACC nowadays? Iracing is ridiculously processor heavy while on rift, and i would have bought acc already if i wasnt so afraid paying full retail price on a game that i cant feasibly play.
ACC is an excellent GT3/4 sim! I wish they would spend more time on the online presence model. Something like iRacing where there is a more curated experience rather than a buffet of public servers all at Monza.
In terms of pure physics and simulation, ACC is 2 miles ahead of the rest, including iRacing, which is an OK simulator with a magnificent online system and community.
you were not lying, that voice quality is terrifying. great video tho
ayyy northlane intro :)
Me when the intro starts: kmac hacking
Completely agree about the tire model, it feels kind of soapy and slippery, requiring you to under-drive and never really feeling like you're hooking up a turn or completely grabbing the track with sticky rubber; generally the feeling is most pronounced mid-corner and corner exit.
It's not too bad, however, and ACC is still a great sim, but it's also pretty weak on content and game structure. All the game modes are incredibly shallow, and I tend to get bored with the limited content pretty quickly.
Exactly on point what i hate about this sim aswell. I want to love it but that drives me nuts. The tyre model part i mean.
Did you drive race car? Or at least drive your car on circuit?
@@B0bik i don't think he never did it. LOL
I was in the same vantage point as you, the first taste of the early access game had to be some kind of joke. I can't remember if it was free back then or cheaper but it still had to be some kind of mistake. Looking at new sim videos I was confused as to how it was even positively received in the community after what I thought was the full game. Now I can see it has changed dramatically and is now what it should've originally been
ACC was released way too soon. It was awful when it first came out. It's much better now, I'd actually play it a lot more if the VR was better optimized. VR is shit even with a top if the line PC. It's hard to go from playing iRacing on the index @144hz at almost all high settings to ACC looking like crap at 70 fps.
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Give this a try. I thought the same but after making these adjustments it’s much better.
@@slickdiggler1197 I just got my pc built. Use a rift only had a 1660 to and a i56400. Before . it barely ran this at all. But my new one has a 2080super hybrid a I79700k and 16 gb of 3300,ram. Ive been able to turn up most other games to very high levels.just hope acc plays without Shit graphic levels. At least need the cars skins not to be blobs.lol
But thanks for link im going to start with those settings. Something called vssr or sonething helps too for vr
They’ve really turned it around. I couldn’t stand it at first. Even with a thrustmaster TS-XW it’s great with the road feel turned up because it’s later scanned and the tracks are super accurate. By far my favorite sim now.
won't be surprised if the intro music was self produced h
Sim is so dope when ya have the right wheel settings
Could you share your wheel settings? I assume you're talking about FFB?
Same here I may not have a DD wheel but defintely feels nice with the Fanatec CSL Elite PS4 F1 bundle. It was so worth the money I'm thinking of investing into a load cell pedal but later on but overall I'm enjoying the game combo as well
Its a fantastic sim but the FFB with a G29 is horrible. I ordered a Thrustmaster TS-PC Racer and the LCM pedals with loadcell. Hope it is better with a much stronger wheel. Love the sim but i kinda hate it at the same time, i cant feel any grip. Feels a bit like driving on ice.
@@tacklefatkids I was thinking of getting the exact setup too and debating if it's worth the added cost. I currently have an old Fanatec CSR and CSR elite pedals (load cell) but was comparing TM T300 RS GT vs the CSR Elite F1 combo.
I’m only running a tx and I think the game feels great, takes a little while to figure out the ffb settings but once there is amazing
Do you tried R3E? And when yes. What do you think?
@untitled. Yes i know, but Ermin dont know the game i think :-)
It's good, but in a different way. Don't expect an AC-clone, it has its own thing going.
FFB is very subjective and probably you had some settings, which were not suitable to transport the FFB through the T500RS. I was back then on a CSW 2.5 and it was pretty dope right from the beginning with just the Lambo and Nürburgring available. Maybe just check how you setup your FFB. I for example find it way easier to setup FFB in ACC rather then getting the same realism in AMS2. But that's subjective probably and maybe you like to mix in some canned effects. I like the natural feel of ACC more. Not to talk about all the higher quality of laser scanned tracks, sound design and so on. And to be just honest: rF2 is for sure very good in terms of FFB, but the rest is just aweful to use and just a pain in the ass concerning game crashes, gigantic loading times etc. ...
Love the channel - I’m a newbie but loving ACC and PC2 -
Coming from AC to ACC was actually quite a challenge using the same FFB settings. I think Kunos tried to remedy the excess clipping in belt driven consumer wheels, that was really an issue in AC, by toning down the ffb strength overall in ACC. I normally used 70% ffb strength on AC and would still get clipping on the high g corners. After struggling with ACC for a bit, I copied Nil Naujoks settings which felt much better right away. I max the wheels FFB strength then reduce in-game gain to 80% for the csw v2.5. The ferrari, which usually felt skittish, came alive for me. It even got better when I changed to a formula rim that was 1kg lighter than my uni hub setup.
Could you post your settings? I am struggling with my CSW 2.5.
Some parts I agree, other parts I do not, with you assessment... I do hope to see u do a review on the gt4’s when they drop...
i got ACC a week ago as it was on my wishlist since day 1 on early access but i just waitied and then saw it cheap and bought it. Best racing game ive played so far ever and im loving it on my TX wheel. I keep looking at Rfactor 2 but i keep getting put off with the pay model it as.
Trust me man it is worth it. You will instantly love the feeling. The steam workshop on RF2 also has so much free content. Granted I know some of the best stuff is little on the expensive side. But you will feel such a difference man I am telling you. You can actually feel the grip. it is unreal how good it is. I like ACC a lot too. But I always end up back on RF2. Now matter how expensive or buggy the UI you really won't find another sim that can replicate the feeling as well. Just my take. cheers to fellow sim racing anyways!
Just got ACC the other week - does anyone notice how slow/insensitive the POV is relative to the yaw of the car? ie, you only get the sense the car has lost grip long after it has lost grip......the sensitivity of the POV realtive to the road should give you a split second warning the rear is about to let go, like in a real car.
I think ams2 ffb is much better than acc, but as an overall package acc has ams2 beat (currently). There's something about acc that makes me want to do endurance races which I never would've done before. Glad we have 2 good/great sims with a lot of potential
ACC is a videogame, so is cool if you drive like this, to enjoy it, as race pace, with no stress, no pressures.
Problems starts when you do esport, when you need to find the limits of the cars, when you go 3 seconds faster in public and competitive lobbys. Car's pitch is to sensitive (said some real gt drivers like Nikki Thim), tires has no vertical grip at all.
Gt3 cars are down-powered from the stock cars, with race chassis, brakes, tires, suspensions and bodywork, and you can't do one lap without abs and tc without killing yourself and your tires. That's enough to resume this game.
I forgot the graphic optimization, suck.
can u clarify ur ramblings? Haven’t heard Nikki bitch about tires in ACC since the 5 point tire model was introduced (but iracing plenty)
Well according to Nicki a few weeks ago, ACC is undoubtedly the best racing platform out there.
@@rrschmid 3 drivers of my team raced with him at the 24h of lemans on rF2. I know he loves it, but some settings, like for example pitch sensitivity are to exaggerated as he agreed too.
Just needs more tracks. Good physics, but the small track amount is what's making me not play it too much. Playing the same track's over and over gets tedious fast.
rFactor 2 Interlagos was ported from Reiza Studios and I doubt it's laser scanned.
starts the video with northlane. a goddamn sim racing legend right here.
I bought ACC on PC a day after it released on console because it was a good price. I’m not much of a GT3 driver as I prefer racing Formula cars, but I’m definitely happy with ACC. I play on a DD1 wheel base.
Another super informative video Ermin.I totally agree with your thought on ACC V RF2 and AMS2.I said to Dave Perel on his stream recently that AMS2 does some things better than ACC, he nearly snapped my head off and said AMS2 is pcars2.5 with boat physics. Now i dont claim to know anywhere near as much as him about GT cars but i have driven RT 2000 touring cars here in Ireland and to me AMS2 has nailed some aspects of physics and ffb, obviously needs work but its well on the way.I have huge respect for Dave Perel , i love his onboard videos and live streams but his opinion on AMS2 if genuine is deeply flawed.Dont get me wrong i enjoy ACC a hell of a lot but its physics and ffb are not quite up to the standards of RF2 and AMS2.How lucky are we to have such a rich vein of sims to chose from these days.Why the thumbs down guys? ACC fanboys? Did they even watch?
I agree
! ams2 feels more like a real car.
Would be cool if you covered raceroom as well
iRacing GT3 cars have significantly improved recently. Could you compare GT3 cars in iRacing.versus Asetto Corsa please?
I would love to, but since I find the subscription model unethical, the devs would have to spot a promo/press account for it to happen.
I like everything about ACC except how it looks in VR.
Yeah, VR is a nighmare. Bought it in EA and hoped they would get it done this time....Just disappointing! Without VR nothing for me, will try Automobilista 2 instead. Hopefully they managed VR.
@@Norobot33 ams2 vr is a major selling point. Same as pc2 but the 2d trees look significantly better..
TrwSeama dammit I was going to hit the buy button before seeing your comment !
@@CharlesK441 acc still recommended big time just not in vr.
@@CharlesK441 maybe it will look better on the RTX 3090 :D If you have one, get the game and let me know how it looks :))
I’m with you on this ...... I’m really trying to get I to it , but something just feels a little clinical about the handling . I can’t put my finger on it , but it feels too safe , maybe even too easy too Drive such powerful cars so fast , I never feel like I’m on the edge until I’m passed it , and I didn’t see it coming . It does make you feel like your’e a better driver than you are I think , I like to feel like I’mHanging on for dear life ! I’m hoping the GT4’s will bring a bit more feel into the driving as I’m Just not connecting with it at the moment .
I tried lots of sims and now stuck with ACC. It's the best overall package of handling, feedback, graphics, sound, UI and multiplayer.
Really enjoy your videos. One comment I have is about the ffb on lower end wheels as I currently have one, (Thrustmaster TMX). ACC feels ok on it and rF2 feels like absolute dog shit. I'm currently saving up for a dd base so I can feel what these sims actually feel like. Anyways, just my opinion, thanks for the video.
Misha Mansoor as in Misha from Periphery? I am so jealous.
Ha - I had an Optus ad that just said “Yes” for five seconds when I clicked on this video!
I think what is important on a sim is for simracers quality over quantity. The amount of detail in this game is a benchmark. And for me the price politics of rf2 is what should be sentenced by simracers. Just the look on the aris drives vids shows the devs on acc are so fanatic on the detail as many of the simdrivers. ACC in combination with AC is i think the best package to have atm. Especially when you dont wanna do a fatality to your wallet with sims like iracing or rf2.
Yes another game rushed to market in early access, though it is my preferred driving game. Starting to enjoy AutoMob 2 and recently purchased RF2 in steam sale after hearing you say it is very good. I must say I am struggling to enjoy RF2, it feels like I must need to be installing mods to get it to a decent level. Will have to research on what to setup to get it looking and feeling good because “out of box” I was not impressed by it.
I have a video coming out on how to get the most out of rF2 next, so stay tuned and hopefully you find something you like in there.
@@Ermz Nice, I also just got rF2 on sale and planning to dive into it, great news!
ACC for GT3 and GT4
rF2 for GTE, LMP2 and LMP3.
AMS2 for wacky Brazilian stuff
As simracers, lets rejoice we get to experience more than one excellent sim bringing top notch content for our pleasure. :)
AMS2 for F1 cars; they rock!
MadMaxBLD- fuck yeah they do!
I heard AMS1 is very good if you like retro F1, apart from Brazilian cars and tracks
Xabc Yabc- AMS2 offers generic retro F1 cars as well. Check it out. It’s still a pretty plain jane menu and not much frill but the gameplay is amazing in my opinion.
Just bought this for the pc and I love it! :)
24:18 thats not the tyre that is failing to flex. its something else in the physics thats not really doing its job perfectly. you didnt hit the kerb with a tyre, you rammed it really hard with the floor of the car that doesnt flex in ACC (and not in any other sim afaik either)
He's so used to other simpler games that he can't understand what is happening in ACC
You have that same effect hitting this kerb with the tire, you can confirm that for yourself.
ACC is an amazing game, great cars, great graphics. But physics are not on point... What you showed on 24:19 is exactly what i was talking about on this game issues. The responsiveness is way off and that's why rFactor 2 is the best-feeling sim. Two of the greatest sim racing games, both with their own issues. Competition is on for both Kunos and S397, the future is bright for sim-racing games.
As a casual simracer (tried rf2, ams2) I am looking for best immersion. ACC sound design is very good, graphics are nice (performance could be better) and as whole I enjoy it the most.
Pitty that VR experience is poor.
Mate i can advise to try engine.ini en json file from speedracer, from this website. www.racedepartment.com/threads/share-your-vr-graphic-settings.160409/page-44. I had the same problem hardly touched acc, because i race only vr. Now on my mediocore pc with an 1080 it looks good and runs smooth. I used the 45.json for oculus rift s. Hope it helps.
@@Hani_Santa Thanks dude!
Good video, ACC has a lot going for it. However, the one thing I can't get past is the AI. No matter the difficulty setting, if I maintain a reasonable pace, the AI make no attempt to pass me. I literally have to spin out for them to pass. I'm an average driver, so it's like there's something about the AI where they seem content to just stay back there (I'm hard pressed sometimes to see them passing each other, now that I think about it). For that reason, I'm sticking to rfactor 2 for my GT3 racing for now. They actually pass me when they get the opportunity.
Meh AI pointless anyway. You should be racing people that is where the fun is. I would rather do hot laps and improve myself that way then waste time with AI.
what do you expect, you slammed into the sausage curb. crash bang. the tyre model is good
The only tiny issue I have with acc is the FFB but, other than that the game is great... the sounds of the cars on the game are fucking amazing... also, brate you should do another review with the new update..
Misha mansoor ? From periphery?
Notice all the Fanatec ads? I believe ACC was coded more for the Fanatec wheels more than others. I could be wrong. How many of you feel that the FFB is amazing with other wheels?
I could've sworn there was thrustmaster branding all over Zolder
I have a CSL Elite and I barely feel anything. If I put the FFB high so I can get some detail, the wheel is heavy as a freaking truck. If I lower it so I can turn the wheel without sweating, I feel nothing of the car.
"coded more for fanatec wheels" if you know nothing about programming or game development then why suggest something where you have no knowledge on? That's a completely nonsense idea.
ACC's feedback really messes with me on the G29. I can feel rumble strips fine, and if it steps out it's somewhat easy to catch. My biggest gripe is also under braking and overall tire load. When compared to RF2 I still have no idea how they make the FFB so good even on a cheap setup. Under braking it actually puts strain on the wheel to indicate if the car is swaying too much. It's so predictable. I find it's much easier to toss the car around and play with the overall limit of the tires too...which is as it should be IMO.
Misha Mansoor from Periphery does sim racing? What!?
The VR performance is so bad, I just can't bring myself to play it as my set up is VR only. FPS dips and weird artifacting all over the place.
I bought it last week and had the same issue. AC and PC2 run well on my rig but the performance with ACC was horrible.
Acc felt unfinished to me, uninstalled it the same day and went back to the og ac. I felt it missed some important stuff from ac even though it had better force feedback and driving
I have the original ac on ps4 and its truly dreadful on ps4 , is this available on ps4 and is it any better ?
@@paulthomson9709 i would advise you to watch some reviews on youtube, i personally hated it but other people loved it. Ive done the mistake of taking it without seeing any review. It really depends on you. I like to have all kind of cars not just race cars thats probably why i didnt like it.
I still can't get on with it, but at this point it's probably more down to GT3 cars being boring and me hating games that require TAA with a passion.
I’ve never driven an actual GT3 car but to me the acc sim makes them sound and feel like a shopping cart when hitting the curbs, etc. I can’t imagine having any fun racing in this series.
I have 200 hours in the game and don't really understand what you're saying. Although some cars are particularly sensitive to curbs, that depends on setup. The Porsche with an aggressive set up hates them, but the BMW and the Lexus eat curbs for dinner. The GT4s are also some of the most fun cars to drive in sim racing at the moment.
It’s the constant frame drops, under any settings, that I can’t stand. It’s a deal breaker for me.
Ive never had problems with frame rate when i ran my 970 and not now when i have a 1080
It is indeed very heavy on systems. I just have a new pc. It still runs at only 60 FPS.
Unreal engine ftw. Shittiest frame pacing in any pc game engine
@@brunogil6630 ^ this.
I have a Ryzen 9 3900x with 16GB of DDR4 RAM (3200MHZ) and a very antiquated, GTX 970. The game is even installed on a new PCIe 4.0 M.2 I just got last week and still, I have to be careful with my settings. I know that the 970 is hardly a state of the art GPU, especially today, but I have to have my settings on low with only a couple settings on medium to actually have a chance at maintaining a smooth(ish) 60 fps. And that's not even getting into night and rain racing.
It could very well be the case that you're simply used to RF2 and how it's handling/physics are like and so you feel like that's the bench mark, but maybe RF2 excentuates the feelings youre talking about. It might be the case that ACC feels about as realistic as a real GT3 car feels like - Until any of us get an oppurtunity to drive the cars in a similar fashion in real life, it's going to be hard to know really.
dude you have to get VR, it gives you such unique perspective, you'll kill 10s off your PBs instantly
For ps it was like 8 buck cause of the discount so i just grabbed it cause it was too much of a steal its originally like 30 bucks
Hey Ermin, it took me 8 months to dial in my DD1, once dialled in the FFB detail greatly improved. Give the following DD1 setting a go and let us know if you feel an improvement: SEN 1080, FF 100, LIN 0, NDP 4, NFR 0, NN 0, INT 0, FEI 80, FOR 100, SPR 0, DPR 0, ABS 85, sho 100, MPS auto, BRF 90 - keep up the great content.
Thanks for the tip. I have a hard time with the FFB in ACC and basically any game other than iRacing. Can you give me a tip for the in game settings for ACC and also if you have any settings for rf2 that would be cool.
Love the song choice!