Changing of the guard? Thailand election winners challenge ruling establishment • FRANCE 24
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2023
- A turning point for Thailand or will the military-backed elites quickly call time on reform? High turnout in Sunday’s general election delivering an unprecedented result with Pita Limjaroenrat’s Move Forward party topping the populist Pheu Thai of Paethongtarn Shinawatra, the pair blowing away the United Thai National Party of the outgoing prime minister, former coup leader Prayuth Chen-Ocha.
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As a fellow ASEAN neighbor from Indonesia, i really want the best for Thai people. Congratulation on moving forward towards democracy! ❤
Thank you❤🇹🇭
Nope it will be the best for US and EU.
Thanks a lot! ❤
Thai people really appreciate you 🇹🇭🫶🏻
Thank you 🧡
Congratulations Thailand!.. from Malaysia 🥰🥰🥰
Thank you!🧡
Thxs😅 but it's too soon, we still have the upper court - 250 senators who do not want Thailand to be a full democracy country.
As a Thai political science student, this is by far the best analysis a foreign media has ever given on this Thai election. Thank you!!
P.S. after watching toward the end, this is literally the BEST analysis out there - even better than the one from Thai media (probably because they are allowed to talk about the monarchy).
Agree!
Bro….
I couldn't agree more. Especially the fact that Thai media is not permitted to bring "monarchy" into a discussion is a major roadblock to a balanced presentation of the situation in Thailand, preventing Thai analysis from providing a whole picture.
Agree ka!
ikr I was surprised by how accurate they are! esp the blonde lady as if she were part of our society
Thailand should be a democratic country now. When we pay taxes, you have to listen to the voice of the people.
As a Thai I believe that Thailand is a democratic country.
Not only you pay taxes i also pay taxes.
So the poor people who don't pay taxes, they don't count?
@@bkkwalk3549 Yeah, Only to controlled by the army & playboy king.
@@naimulislam7692 their is no difference between being controlled by God to being controlled by King.
am Thai. I feel so ashamed for my former prime minister (Prayuth). The global knows what is going in Thailand except him and his party😒😒😒
Thailand is the time to listen and respect to the voices of more than 90% of Thai's people. Good luck 🤞
Fake data!!!! Not responsible to society at all
ภรรยา อ.ปิยบุตร เก่งมากจริงๆ และสวยด้วย เป็นผู้หญิงที่โคตรเก่ง มีความรู้ทางการเมืองมากจริงๆ
As someone that's currently 'staying in Thailand' as a long visitor, who loves this country very much and want the best for it, I'm happy for the people of Thailand to have him become the next Prime Minster, very progress. This is what the world needs.
Good debate. I think when Pita stepped up and made his victorious speech saying he’s the next prime minister. He just sent the signal to all of his opponents as well as his supporters that if he were not somehow get to the job, it could have been from an “unnatural” power. He simply leveraged his support to put the pressure back on his opponents. If he’s not the next prime minister, whoever responsible for that would have become the enemy of his “fandoms”. One good thing about the guy is that he’s not shy when it comes to display his determination which is rare for a young Thai. And I believe with that quality of his, Thais voted for him.
Well it was more of discussion than a debate Id say, since everyone seemed to be of the same notion, I really hope Thailand sees a peaceful transition process,but given its history with coups,that would a bit of an utopia,not to mention the parallel or discreet role the monarchy plays, simply put, whoever wants to lead Thailand has to bow down to the king,no matter how much they abhor him or the monarchy.
The problem is we don't know what those "unnatural" power are up to at this time. It's obvious that Pita's winning could bring some change in their power, so it is ,in my opinion, really odd for them to not act anything right now. May be they have some deal in the back with their pawns.
Best comment I've ever read!
คนไทยมี 60 ล้านคน พรรคการเมืองที่ชนะได้แค่ 14 ล้านเสียง ส่วนที่เหลือเขาเลือกพรรคอื่นๆ จ้า
Thank You so much all of you to speak for behalf of Thai people!!
Congratulations 🎉 to all Thai people ❤
Eugénie is brilliant in her knowledge of Thai politics.
As a Colombian I know first hand how difficult it is to challenge the traditional political class, I cant even imagine how tough it must be to challenge a military rule, best of luck to Thailand and its citizens and hoping for progress and change in Thai society
True!
It’s really hard, and move forward party did not cheat the election by paid for the voters .
ด้วยรัฐบาลทหาร 8 ปี ตอนนี้ประเทศเราเปลี่ยนแปลงมาก เจริญขึ้นอย่างรวดเร็ว เรามีความสุขดี พวกประท้วงสร้างแต่ปัญหา งี่เง่า ปัญญา อ่อน
So proud of him and our people that voted for him 🇹🇭 ❤
Thank you so much ms.Pimlapas to speak for Thai people ❤
พี่ชินนี่สวยมากค่ะ ทั้งบุคลิก ความคิด ทั้งหมดเลย เก่งมากด้วย🥹😍👍🏻
เธอใช่ lgbt รึเปล่าครับ ผมแค่สงสัย
@@wasantube ใช่ครับ เธอออกรายการ ไกลบ้านของช่องฟาโรสด้วยเป็นคนที่เก่งมาก หาดูในยูทูปเลยครับ
@@wasantube ดร.ชินนี่ เก่งมาก สวยมาก
@@wasantube LGBT? กระเทยหรอ
ทำซับได้ทีคับ
Very well conducted with people having knowledge of the situation.
I was shocked at how Eugenie was so well informed. Googled and the fact that she is married to Mr.Piyabutr answered everything.
The Thai people have spoken with their votes .
Thank you for speaking for us 🧡
Amazing insights and analysis by Ms Merieau and also the panel. Thank you so much for covering these issues for the international community to understand our difficulties.
Thank you for the very deep and all-rounded content. Appreciate including a Thai person to represent us a lot
Congratulations to France 24. High quality content with rounded discussion. Great selection of knowledgeable persons to debate. Keep up the great job. 🙏
Thank you for speaking for us ❤
Thank you for your voices and opinions. I am a Thai and I am not scared. Take what may come !!!
To me, a Thai mother, this year 2023 Thai Election reflects Thai People ability to choose and to let democracy bring society back to real People Right in Free World of Democracy. But we are still just half way, next step concerns how to deal with plans created by the less desirable groups of people who planned to hold on to power regardless.
I hope that the election was not just part of a mask of the system of democracy.
Well done! Especially Ms. Mierau!
I wish my country change like this, I am so sick of my long life government. We need change to be better. To be pointed out more, they should know that.
Eugénie has great brain and beauty. Piyabutr is a very lucky man.
I have been skimming through foreign coverage on our election for the last two days since I'm curious what the situation is like when looked from the outside. Too bad not many of my countrymen share the same curiosity. There is much to learn from perspectives beyond our borders.
Fellow thai here, I’m curious too :)
I'm Thai and have lived abroad all my life, now based in Europe - so my view/question about all this is, if MFP manages the MP Chair and does face long challenges due to the structural barriers, how easy would it be to sway the supporters and shift their support? Thais can be easily swayed by media discourses - some to the point of withdrawing support before getting the full info. I've seen this among friends and acquaintances who supported the coup in 2014 but now support MFP - just because they believed what was published in the media.
Support is what change needs the most - and although I am truly for the MFP - my concern here is how ready are Thais to stand beside MFP when things get rough and media slander begins.
@@mpdg11 A healthy concern. Worst case scenarios are always possible.
History indeed suggests that we were easily swayed by the propaganda machines.
However, the media and the way people consume information have changed drastically. We no longer rely solely on newspapers, televisions and other similarly outdated mediums, which are preferred tools of the power that be. A large chunk of the population now have devices like PCs and smartphones, which means countless alternative sources of information. With access to these sources people are becoming more skeptical and more aware than ever.
I'm not saying that we are now suddenly immune to manipulation, but that we are now more likely to question what is presented to us.
Besides, the media slander you mention has already started long before this election. On top of the old ways, the establishments did try their sloppy hand at these new mediums(look up Thai army information operation network), yet we survived that. MFP still won the election. People were quick to catch on to their tactics, because they may have adopted new tools and become more proficient with technology, but their messages stay the same. The only people they managed to fool were their shrinking support base.
Ultimately what I want to say is, stumbles can happen, but we should have faith in growth of awareness and learning. It is possible the establishments will pull something and Thailand might not become a true democracy this year or even within the next decade, but changes seem to be inevitable. As long as we continue to learn.
โอ้ยยยยพี่ชินนี่ FC จากไกลบ้าน
Yes, i'm with you.. truely.... i'm concernd, but not scared a bit.
Thanks for this channel for sharing your opinions . I hope this party will be able to fight through these obstacles with other western countries ‘s supports .
Miss Eugénie still looks lovely as ever. Miss you! 🧡
As an immigrant with an outside view looking in, Thailand has needed this change for decades. These old dinosaur politicians buying off votes, showing up in the farmlands with a case of doughnuts to buy off the poorest of poor, and all the while silently stuffing their pockets with money. Thailand needs a change. This is the best chance for it I have seen in a long long time. I hope the best for Thailand, I hope the people will finally be heard.
Thanks for speaking out for Thailand
Having lived in Thailand off and on for twenty plus years, at one time seven straight I can say this is the best coverage in a foreign media thus far on Thailand's political - and then some - situation. Maybe not in depth or long enough it does give a clearer picture than most. IMO it is essential for countries to become aware of some of the bizarre political aspects of Thailand. There should be no doubt that at this moment to senate and right wing extremist elements are plotting how to pull the rug out from under the election winners. Let us hope this does not happen. Yes mass demonstrations will occur but the military has never hesitated to crack down on them, on some historical moments shooting unarmed protestors dead in the streets of Bangkok. Thailand could again become a beacon of democracy in the region. Avoiding both the Chinese fake communist government and the US model flawed democracy.
The one major difference as far as support for the monarchy is the beloved Rama 9 (former king) is no longer alive. Even many of the most ardent supporters of the monarchy cannot fully support the current king. He is definitely not his father.
Yes, his father was loved by Thai people. He did so much for his country and genuinely cared about the people of Thailand. It’s not the same anymore and everyone is ready for change.
@@Mikomido5 But he gained benefit from his throne so much. He was the richest king in the world.
I want to tell you something that Rama 9 is a piece of sh*t people who love him are the most boomer generation.
Back in the day many activists got disappeared,murdered and you can't even talk about King's on the Internet forum, the gov. will find your IP address and jail you and maybe worse than that
this was fascinating and Eugenie was a supremely well informed guest. Infact all the guests were excellent. I've lived in Bangkok for the last 14 years and Shinnys message that if the senate do not recognise the peoples will that there will be further protests is exactly what is being spoken about on the ground. The mood among Thais has changed since the inauguration of the new King and the rigged election a few years ago. I truly believe the time has come for the old guard to step aside.........K Pitas task is to figure out a way to encourage them to do it gracefully.
I agree, Eugenie is exceptionally smart, knowledgeable, and articulate
Eugenie is actually married to Piyabutr (one of the founders of Future Forward)
ขอบคุณ
แขกรับเชิญ ก็ว่าหน้าคุ้นๆ ภรรยา อ.ปิยบุตรนี่เอง
So proud of him.🥹🧡
France 24, The Debate, is the best. With a lot of various views from different guests. I really enjoy the program. Thx.
I hope Thailand will succeed in transition to a true democracy. This would set an example for neighboring countries. Let's hope the military put the country ahead of its ambition for power.
I can notice that Euginie is very influent in the Thai language every time she said "Phue-thai" that very much like what native Thai people speak. Thanks for the debate :)
We always stand for Move forward party.
Pheu Thai is not pronounced "foo", but like "peux". I'm glad that one guest called him out for it!
Macron of Thailand Mr.Phita L.🇹🇭🧡👏🇹🇭You will never walk alone.🥰😊😊
God bless Thailand 🙏😇🙏
I wish Thais could have the next Prime Minister as Mr.Pita 🎉🇹🇭
Believe that Thais could have full democracy shortly 🧡💯
And so thankful for you all for being very goodwill around us 🧡🧡🧡
This might be the beginning of junta era’s ending ! ,And a new dawn of “real” democracy in Thailand.
Quite a thorough analysis for only a 3/4 hr program. Audiences can clearly follow a complete picture when Palace characters can be brought into the discussion without fear (while 100% of Thai open media cannot do). Kudos to the lady panelist in the studio, her insight and knowledge of Thai politics are impressive.
สื่อตปท.ตอบชมการเลือกตั้งวิเคราะ์มุมมองมาดีมากในระบอบประชาธิปไตยที่ชื่นชมว่าที่นายกพิธาที่ปชช.ออกมาสนับสนุนมากๆและยอมรับการปป.คะเแนนท่วมท้นชนะโดยเป็นการหาเสียงให้ปชช.มีส่วนร่วม
เก่งทั้งคู่เลย❤❤❤
"Pheu Thai" should be written "Pheu-a Thai", with a french "a". I'm so tired about this name never being pronounced correctly, except here for the graceful EUGENIE...
The military and the king will never give up power i would bet my life on it
I felt good about Thailand from the introduction of this media report, although I am suspicious about the Thai politician congratulating only the parties who received votes, on the basis that it is quite highly probably in this context to be surreptitiously antagonistic and taps the value of another person's loss. Thanks for monitoring the enthusiasm, François.
เเฟน อ. ปิยบุตร สวยมากกกก
เชื่อไหม? แม้กระทั่งการแชร์คลิปนี้ในประเทศไทยก็อาจผิดกฎหมายได้ ฉันอยากร้องไห้จริงๆ
ไม่ผิดค่ะ stop spreading fake news
@@suthinunpolasub5825 อาจถูกฟ้องด้วยกฎหมายมาตรา 112 ได้(กฎหมายปกป้องกษัตรย์ ที่ un มองว่าเป็นกฎหมายละเมิดสิทธิมนุษยชน) ดังนั้นใครที่อยู่ในประเทศไทยจะแชร์คลิปนี้ ควรต่อ vpn ด้วยเพื่อความปลอดภัย
ps ผมเลือกพรรคในคลิป เพราะจะแก้ไขมาตรา 112 นี่แหละ
@@suthinunpolasub5825 It's not fake news. People got charged with lese majeste just for sharing a BBC news article. It's not unrealistic and impossible.
@@thastayapongsak4422 I think Suthinun refers to the unknow unnamed’s comment, not this video. Saying that sharing this could be considered illegal is spreading fake news. Correct me if I misunderstood.
11:30 Openly criticize the king. The lese-majeste law shall not allow that.
Well done segment about the current situation in Thailand. I never heard of Eugenie before but I love listening to her!!
Not scared ❤
Monarchy not free this country to be developed country. There are many things from junta government they did. Monarchy and military are the same side.
Good analysis and discussion. Eugenie really knows her stuff. Very impressed by her.
เห็นหน้าพี่ซินนี่ จำได้เลย ไกลบ้าน🎉 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡
พี่ชินนี่ 🎉🎉
Greeting from chow-chong ka ❤ Thank you for being the voices of us. We hope this changing will be the new era in Thailand. And can get rid of the power of our mad king who lives in Germany instead of Thailand. 🙏
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
ทุกคนทุกเพศเท่าเทียม
ไม่ใช่ความอับอายซุกซ่อนผิดปกติ
ตรงกันข้าม
ยอมรับและเคารพสิทธิทุกคน
ทุกครอบครัวควรใส่ใจ
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Help please spread this message to all countries, but now senators now rejecting democracy by not voting for Pitha to form a government. Now the senators do not respect the majority of the people in deciding this election, Senators are betraying the people for their own good "Now thailand is losing democracy at the hands of the Senate appointed by Prayuth 😢😢😢
Excellent analysis from the lady in back.
Wow 👍🏼
Be vigilant for any instances of unjust treatment towards Pita and his political party. Speak out against any unfair practices that come to your attention🧡
Great and interesting from Krung Angkor
คุณชินนี่ ไกลบ้านนี่นาา
Yes, Pheu Thai (เพื่อไทย) : For Thai
This is so good analysis and got many stuffs right at the problem actually I want to share it over my social but it risk getting 112 when it involve discussion about monarchy this is how bad it is even stuffs are true or it relate to people I hope someday we can show people the truth and the problem that hidden in this country.
This is a crime that some one has been kill who against the millitary dictator many have to go to jail without a bail and many have to fledged aboard
น้องผู้หญิงได้ใจจริงๆ นอกจากจะวิเคราะห์ดีแล้ว ยังออกเสียงไทยดีด้วย
เป็นภรรยาอาจารย์ปิยบุตร ออกเสียงไทยชัด
เคยสอนที่ธรรมศาสตร์ด้วย
Eugene looking really gorgeous and seem like she's smart also.
Waiting.Trying to read the signs of the Kings silence.
Even though the government has not been established, I feel like we, the people, have already won in terms of rising against the military. There are ways for the current power to try and stay. Even by what was written in the constitution. But that would also mean ignoring the voice of the people. That would not go well at all.
ตามมาจาก ทวิต
Chapeau Eugenie Merieau! You truly know what you are talking about :-)
5:55 THANK YOU!!!! As a Thai, that pronunciation has been bugging me! What she said about first names is legit too, though we have been using nicknames most of the time.
PS: 5 is pronounced ha in Thai. So, nice coincidence hahaha.
Eugenie is so beautiful
17:40 ชอบคำนี้มาก
Bravo! ,Thailand
Stay watchful of military government appointed senators and how they cast their votes in the Prime Minister's election. Condemn any unfair practices that come to your attention.
พี่ชินนี่❤❤❤❤❤
yes,not landslide but skyfall
The host is excellent.
❤❤❤❤❤ Thailand will move forward.
Not land slide but the sky slide
🍊Amazing ภูมิใจที่สุดในโลก🍊
😅can’t believe it, he looks 24😂
แล้วพี่ชินนี่ ❤❤❤❤
He can lead the country to cheer up the world.
Can't wait to have educated Prime Minister in almost a decade
Hello watching u from Thailand 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
คนไทย รอ เวลา นี้ มานาน อยาก จะเห็น ผน ที่ เก่ง ฉลาด พิธา มารัก ปชช เวลา นั้น มา ถึง
use courage to overcome fear
I will give this a few months to just under a year until the military establishment override the election results with whatever justifications they feel the need to provide to the public as to their actions. And most of the general populace will still swallow any justifications that they will provide.
พี่ชินนี่!