Hey high Voltage diy electric bikes and vehicles! I live in Port Coquitlam just east of Vancouver British Columbia Canada and I did many of the wonderful waterproof tips you covered. I also put silicone in the heat shrink before I shrank it to seal the gap left between the two wires so the shrinking squeezes it out! I used dual wall adhesive heat shrink after I mate two plugs together to seal the mating line! Hope those added tips help other riders in soggy climates similar to mine! Happy new year! Ride ride ride!
You can also use heat shrink with glue to insulate the wire plugs. These are usually 3:1 and 4:1 heat shrinks, so they adhere very nicely to wires and plugs, even when the plug is much larger in diameter. It's always easier to replace the plug if necessary, when you only need to cut the heat shrink, than to additionally remove the silicone from the plugs ;)
Whoooooah! Wait a tic. I’ve been an automotive technician for 30 years. And that Permatex dielectric tune up grease can be crammed into the INside of Any and All connectors. Directly into where the 2 pin high amp wires connect and any and all low amp multi-pin connectors. I’ve done probably about 200 tuneups and gone thru an insane amount of tune up grease. Spark plug 60,000 v plug wires, battery terminals, 40-120 pin computer plug ins where some of the pins are 1 v, 5v, 12v all on same connector. Cram full and waterproof, oxygen insulated and electrically isolated from neighboring pins. Electicity takes the path of least resistance. Fixed many perplexing and strange automotive electrical issues this way and saved clients thousands of diagnostic costs (treat on plug in at a time)
That's fantastic. I bet I could learn a ton from you! I was introduced to it from my father in law who works on motorcycles a lot. I didn't know it was quite that flexible in use though. Good to know. One of those cheap things that saves thousands of dollars. Cheers
Thanks for the hint about the dielectric grease in the xt90 connector. Don't forget the "strain relief" that snaps on the end; it is also not waterproof.
I put silicone thic grease on the outside of connectors been 4yrs, no corrosion or problems with my 52v bbs02b system 🎉 for one of my tips would be to silicone grease the oil seal ln the crank arms and bearing seals. seal the controller and motor gaskets with silicone rubber to make sure its solid. Happy new year, glad I found your Channel
Great Vid, thanks, and great ideas in the coments. in my opinion i wouldn't seal the wire exit hole on the controller case. In case you have a small weep, you need an escape for the water. You dont want to create a well.
What I usually do is that I put heatshink tube on the XT90 connectors, and fill with dielectric grease/silicon before shrinking them completely. Filling with hotglue also work if you want something harder with more physical protection.
I have seen people coat controllers with that stuff on the connectors where they are exposed. It's not something I have used. I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Have you ever heard of this? CYC photon kit on a mountain bike, a Kona, Satori 29er. Kit has close to 900 km on it, overall fairly happy with it, except for false heat values in the beginning, they helped solve those. However, while riding up a hill, I experienced pulsation through the pedals. Everything still works. But now it is as though the torque system is compromised and it gives full torque with very little pedal pressure as though a spring is broken or something like that. I would be surprised if I’m the only one this has happened to.
I have heard of the torque sensor failing yeah. Quick question though. When a bike is powered on torque sensors often calibrate themselves. Not 100% if CYCs do this. Do you have any pressure on the pedals when you power on the bike? Its a long shot. I have a feeling you will need to do a claim on it. I would get in touch with your dealer or CYC directly. You can try your luck on the Facebook group. They might have other ideas. You could perhaps try a firmware update or a reset to factory defaults. Sometimes they can get rid of these issues. Worth a go. Cheers
PVA glue is excellent for filling holes where wiring passes through the frame to completely seal the hole, it is extremely waterproof & easy to remove in one lump when needed
@@HighVoltageKits Just make sure it's not the water soluble PVA, as that stuff will make a proper gloopy mess all over the place PVA is also excellent at preventing rainwater ingress around batteries, switches etc as it's extremely rubbery & flexible A 500ml bottle of 'Wudglue' is about £/$6 ish & 500ml will waterproof over 100 bikes
@@HighVoltageKits That'll probably work, but quality wood PVA is much better, giving any smooth surfaces a tooth will help it to stick, alternatively applying a thin coat of PVA an hour or two earlier before applying a thick sealing dose will also create a tooth for the PVA to stick to
Those downtube mounted front mudguards are superb, but be careful with the version that can be clipped on and off, I rode the the coast on a windy day and the last I saw of it was about a mile out to sea , still in the air😂
I've had a set for a while but they are pretty beat up. Not had the front one pop off but the back one I have repaired several times now. Not perfect but they do the job. Sorry to hear yours was lost at see. I bet that was maddening. Cheers
hey cap! really thankful for this video as it gathers up all the spread up information that i've been hearing from you. the time has finally come and i'm gathering parts and tools to install the motor onto the bike. two questions: how long is a 9g tube of dielectric grease going to last? about the silicone, do you have any specific recommendation or general purpose is fine? i could get your same silicone if preferable. thanks a lot for your time, doing god's work!
You don't really need much grease. Should last a while. In terms of silicone I used the stuff I got from an auto store. I would get it there. I used Lordco. Not sure if they have that with you.
A hot glue gun is my trick. It always peels off easy and seals very well when used correctly. Grease and slime will creep out and about. Hot glue stops rather fast.
@@HighVoltageKits The zip ties don't have to be fully tightened, just tight enough to create a low point to divert the maximum amount of water that runs down any wiring Zip ties just around the wire & not used to attach the wires to anything else on to bike
They are. Manufacturers do all the time. You can see traces of the old silicone inside the motor where it was removed to service it. The silicone here was from a car shop. What is your concern here? It beats a battery short.
as someone who rides through the winter in CANADA, I have to say I appreciate this video. This was exactly what I needed to see, thank you!
Hey high Voltage diy electric bikes and vehicles! I live in Port Coquitlam just east of Vancouver British Columbia Canada and I did many of the wonderful waterproof tips you covered. I also put silicone in the heat shrink before I shrank it to seal the gap left between the two wires so the shrinking squeezes it out! I used dual wall adhesive heat shrink after I mate two plugs together to seal the mating line! Hope those added tips help other riders in soggy climates similar to mine! Happy new year! Ride ride ride!
Those are some great tips there Eric. I will have to do the heat shrink one. Thanks. Happy New Year.
great tip never thought of this one!
You can also use heat shrink with glue to insulate the wire plugs. These are usually 3:1 and 4:1 heat shrinks, so they adhere very nicely to wires and plugs, even when the plug is much larger in diameter.
It's always easier to replace the plug if necessary, when you only need to cut the heat shrink, than to additionally remove the silicone from the plugs ;)
Thanks :)
Whoooooah! Wait a tic. I’ve been an automotive technician for 30 years. And that Permatex dielectric tune up grease can be crammed into the INside of Any and All connectors. Directly into where the 2 pin high amp wires connect and any and all low amp multi-pin connectors. I’ve done probably about 200 tuneups and gone thru an insane amount of tune up grease. Spark plug 60,000 v plug wires, battery terminals, 40-120 pin computer plug ins where some of the pins are 1 v, 5v, 12v all on same connector. Cram full and waterproof, oxygen insulated and electrically isolated from neighboring pins. Electicity takes the path of least resistance. Fixed many perplexing and strange automotive electrical issues this way and saved clients thousands of diagnostic costs (treat on plug in at a time)
That's fantastic. I bet I could learn a ton from you! I was introduced to it from my father in law who works on motorcycles a lot. I didn't know it was quite that flexible in use though. Good to know. One of those cheap things that saves thousands of dollars. Cheers
Thanks for the hint about the dielectric grease in the xt90 connector. Don't forget the "strain relief" that snaps on the end; it is also not waterproof.
Good point. Appreciated.
Happy New Year! May all your plans for 2024 come to fruition and that you and your family enjoy good health.
Cheers Frombie! Hope you have a great yeah as well mate. Cheers
I put silicone thic grease on the outside of connectors been 4yrs, no corrosion or problems with my 52v bbs02b system 🎉 for one of my tips would be to silicone grease the oil seal ln the crank arms and bearing seals. seal the controller and motor gaskets with silicone rubber to make sure its solid. Happy new year, glad I found your Channel
Appreciate the extra tips. That's awesome. Happy new year for you as well. Cheers
Great Vid, thanks, and great ideas in the coments. in my opinion i wouldn't seal the wire exit hole on the controller case. In case you have a small weep, you need an escape for the water. You dont want to create a well.
That's a good point you'd have to very confident with the rest of the job. Its not something I do myself and have not had any issues.
Excellent video. Very helpful.
Thanks Chris
What I usually do is that I put heatshink tube on the XT90 connectors, and fill with dielectric grease/silicon before shrinking them completely. Filling with hotglue also work if you want something harder with more physical protection.
You are the second suggesting the heat shrink trick. I like it! Cheers John
is comformal coating of any use here? quadcopter people tend to use that to make their circuit boards with the flight controller water resistant
I have seen people coat controllers with that stuff on the connectors where they are exposed. It's not something I have used. I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Have you ever heard of this? CYC photon kit on a mountain bike, a Kona, Satori 29er. Kit has close to 900 km on it, overall fairly happy with it, except for false heat values in the beginning, they helped solve those. However, while riding up a hill, I experienced pulsation through the pedals. Everything still works. But now it is as though the torque system is compromised and it gives full torque with very little pedal pressure as though a spring is broken or something like that. I would be surprised if I’m the only one this has happened to.
I have heard of the torque sensor failing yeah. Quick question though. When a bike is powered on torque sensors often calibrate themselves. Not 100% if CYCs do this. Do you have any pressure on the pedals when you power on the bike? Its a long shot. I have a feeling you will need to do a claim on it. I would get in touch with your dealer or CYC directly. You can try your luck on the Facebook group. They might have other ideas. You could perhaps try a firmware update or a reset to factory defaults. Sometimes they can get rid of these issues. Worth a go. Cheers
Good music! Sound almost like Blade Runner them.
Cheers Bob. It’s based on that lux sound on TH-cam
PVA glue is excellent for filling holes where wiring passes through the frame to completely seal the hole, it is extremely waterproof & easy to remove in one lump when needed
Love it!
@@HighVoltageKits Just make sure it's not the water soluble PVA, as that stuff will make a proper gloopy mess all over the place
PVA is also excellent at preventing rainwater ingress around batteries, switches etc as it's extremely rubbery & flexible
A 500ml bottle of 'Wudglue' is about £/$6 ish & 500ml will waterproof over 100 bikes
@Andrea-B-65-UK Ahh yes! Not school stuff then!
@@HighVoltageKits That'll probably work, but quality wood PVA is much better, giving any smooth surfaces a tooth will help it to stick, alternatively applying a thin coat of PVA an hour or two earlier before applying a thick sealing dose will also create a tooth for the PVA to stick to
@Andrea-B-65-UK appreciated
You're such a great help!
Thanks Charlie
Those downtube mounted front mudguards are superb, but be careful with the version that can be clipped on and off, I rode the the coast on a windy day and the last I saw of it was about a mile out to sea , still in the air😂
I've had a set for a while but they are pretty beat up. Not had the front one pop off but the back one I have repaired several times now. Not perfect but they do the job. Sorry to hear yours was lost at see. I bet that was maddening. Cheers
hey cap! really thankful for this video as it gathers up all the spread up information that i've been hearing from you. the time has finally come and i'm gathering parts and tools to install the motor onto the bike. two questions: how long is a 9g tube of dielectric grease going to last? about the silicone, do you have any specific recommendation or general purpose is fine? i could get your same silicone if preferable. thanks a lot for your time, doing god's work!
You don't really need much grease. Should last a while. In terms of silicone I used the stuff I got from an auto store. I would get it there. I used Lordco. Not sure if they have that with you.
@@HighVoltageKitsthanks cap, cheers
Bar mounted umbrella!
I'm down!
Very nice video, that fat bike looks bad ass!!!
Thanks man! It's not going to keep up with a Tommebike but it's a blast to ride. Cheers
@HighVoltageKits I have the jst connectors on the Tommebike I need to get them more water proof. Thanks again for the video!!!!
i love your channel sir.
Thanks John. Have a great new year
Any recommendations on rear air shocks that's adjustable and super soft and springing , I like soft comfortable ride
The DNM burner is pretty cheap and you can adjust it to be soft as well as change out the coil if needed.
A hot glue gun is my trick. It always peels off easy and seals very well when used correctly. Grease and slime will creep out and about. Hot glue stops rather fast.
Good tip. Appreciated.
Hi there what connector is on the phase leads of the fat bike
The are called an MR30. Amass I think is the main brand. There are lots of clones tho.
Thank you, too low current rating for my application sadly
Really wet area - in/around Portland in the damp season???
I could totally have gone with Portland. Happy new year Dennis
Using a small zip tie on either side of a connector will create a low drip point
100% Good tip. Just make sure not to punch the small wires
@@HighVoltageKits The zip ties don't have to be fully tightened, just tight enough to create a low point to divert the maximum amount of water that runs down any wiring
Zip ties just around the wire & not used to attach the wires to anything else on to bike
dielectric grease, ftw
1000% cheers
Oh? Got a tube of dielectric grease a while back, and used it with the replacement fuse-holder…
I would never recommend to use regular silicone like in this video! Why arent't any manufacturers using it if it's such a miracle product?
Silicone works fine.
They are. Manufacturers do all the time. You can see traces of the old silicone inside the motor where it was removed to service it. The silicone here was from a car shop. What is your concern here? It beats a battery short.