Awesome video! This is a great 1st step for setting up a 6 character team for professions and is needed in my opinion! I know most experienced players have 6 characters now too and if they don't this is a great time to work on it!
For a 6 character limit I'd agree on those combos. But if you manage (likely) to get, let's say, both taurens on Horde, getting them as Druids and their respective racial's Profession combo (Tauren Druid with Herbalism and another profession, and HM Tauren Druid with Mining), you can create even 'better' combination IMO. Currently, after getting those racial+profession combo, their second profession I chose is Engineering, even on my troll, which is also a hunter. Hunters specially, Leatherworking works wonders, even more so with Engineering. When you have more than 6 characters, you can put 2 crafting professions on more and more characters, and not so much of the Gathering on more than one. But the prof I have most replicated is Engineering, almost on all toons, mostly for thei utility it brings: - Loot-A-Rang Toy (picks up loot in a 40 yard radius, on cliffs, instantaneously, on the go, and etc) - Moll-E Mail Toy (Mailbox wherever I go, whenever I want, on a 1h CD) - Jeeves (recipe easily droppable, parts' recipes and crafting at least on one character to send to new engineers. Bank/extra mail/repair where you can't mount, like some instances) - Extra teleportation (specially usefull on those character already with Gathering professions, to better and quickly get to the areas, and other farms) - Permanent cheap tinkers (like cloak with the Gliders, best wherever you can't fly, like on beginning of expansions and other areas. Waterwalking tinker on other slot, shield tinker, disorienting tinker, etc, many choices) - Extra AH access around expansions (Mining+Engineering gatherers, for example, can go to the more relaxing Sanctuary in the Vale of eternal Blossoms, and have bank+AH+Mail right on ONE SPOT, and Forge+Anvil for smelting nearby, if needed) - Other Engineering benefits Currently I have this setup, on Horde side: Druids: HM tauren (Mining+Eng) and tauren (Herbalism+ENg) Main (Hunter): Troll (LW(mail mogs)+Eng) Warrior: Goblin (Main Alchemist(transmute specialist)+Engi(Goblin engineerin)) **DK: Orc (BS+JC) - one of the only character I didn't put engineering *DH: BElf (Enchanting main(Leather), for racial+Engi) Rogue: Forsaken (Skinner+Eng) Monk: Pandaren (Main cooker+LW(leather mogs)+eng) **Mage: Goblin (Main tailor(cloth mogs)+2nd Alchemist(Potion/Flask Specialist)) *Warlock: BElf (Cloth Enchanter+Eng) Shaman: Tauren (Extra Herbalist+Eng) Priest: Troll (Extra Tailor(hexweave bags for example)+Eng) Hunter: Nightborne (Main Inscritptionist+Eng) *Hunter: Mag'Har Orc (Mail Enchanter+Eng) *Paladin: Zandalari (yeah, didn't go for the 'druid hype', sorry, paladin zandalari works best with the Regeneratin' racial :P) (Plate Enchanter+Eng) ** Currently DK and Mage are the only ones without engineering, the mage (and goblin) specially, wouldn't need the extra bank, and teleporting (mage duh). The DK though... well, JC I already farmed over a year for those cata recipes, and the BS recipes I bought many and got many reputations for them too (also he's a plate wearer anyway, for the BoP moggies). * A note on those 4 enchanters, 1 at least for each armor type (Cloth, Leather, those 2 on Belves, Mail and PLate), so any BoE I don't have 'learned' (transmog), I'd prefer to learn them on those 4, respectively, and disenchant the piece after, rather than vendor it, 2 on 1. Currently I have the Vulpera, with alchemy (looking to get the 3rd speciallization) plus engineering or another profession. But engineering really helps most of the toons, and you can already farm the golem recipe on most, if not all, of them (already can craft the Jards thingy on 7 of them) and craft lots of golem in parallel for huge and fast profits, as the Sky Golem is one of the top mount vendors out there, pretty much in any kind of servers (low or high pop), and can sell fast, once crafted. Lemme know what are your racial/profession/class combos out there :P
For the Horde LW/Skinner, to me a Highmountain stands out due to the increased meat drops. Having a skinner who gets bonus meat (as well as a main fisher who gets bonus meat) seems like a nice boost
As a brand new player, these vids are ridiculously helpful, feeling a little more confident already! Thank you for putting this type of content out 🤟🤟💙
Oh, thank goodness. In 2020, I spent a long time farming for Fangs of the Father with my Gnome Rogue. I finally got them, but I was unsatisfied with my character because I felt it wasn't the best race/class/profession combo (I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to WoW). But after watching this video, I can start playing it again! Good thing I didn't delete my character.
I started BFA on a new server with a 110 boost, a 110 transfer and around 300k gold. To this day I got all classes at 120 on this server and all the professions maxed out. I also a solid gold making operation going, with inscription sales as the best seller. Per now, I got the brutosaur mount, bought my GF a brutosaur mount, I supply 4 accounts with wow tokens and buy stuff regulary with tokens. And according to TSM I've sold stuff for more than 70 million the last year, and I'm guessing more since thats 1 year of TSM data. Personally I am really proud of going from a gold maker noob to this in 2 years. So, you can start from 0 and earn alot of gold as long as you put your head into it, and invest time. My best golmaking combo has been a Nightborne rogue with inscription and alchemy. The mailbox is just priceless!
Can you tell me where you went for ideas on how to make serious gold when you started? I have all classes at 120 on a server and I'm considering coming back to WoW to make gold but I'm lost. TH-cam guides are either not up to date or way too long for me.
@@egaskubegaskub6418 First off, Im lazy, so I do the least amount of effort in order to get the gold. I used someone elses groups and operations, and then edited those over time. Since I didnt understand TSM that well then, I had to calculate stuff to make sure it wasnt a loss. As for learning stuff, dip your toe in markets, and check if its worth your time. Dont waste too much gold on new projects. Make sure you use, for instance 10% of your total gold for research. If it fails, you dont want to be broke if it fails. I also make gold in a way that is fun for me, where i can earn a steady amount of gold while also raiding, doing m+ and collecting stuff. I do emmisaries and go for paragons on alts. As for crafting, I have all the professions, and I make sure I can get consumables cheap -> i.e, i make it myself. I also do alot of flipping and reset markets. As for what to craft, I just choose whatever I find fun making, while also being able to play the game. I dislike making mounts, so I dont do that, but I do like making consumables, so I do that instead. Also, when you sell and undercut stuff matters. Do it when it counts, ignore it the rest of the time. Peak hours for me is between 18.00-23.00. I also focus on it on days people buy my stuff; sunday and wednesday. Lastly, time is money. Try to make the most amount of money, with the least amount of time used. Selling stuff that give little gold may not be worth your time. Ive ignored cooking in BFA, as it doesnt give me enough gold based on the time I use on it. Vantus runes however... $$$$
Awesome video Sam, covers about everything in choices and setups. The only combination I miss is a tailor and skinner on 1 toon, this is pref your best geared toon and used to farm either cloth or skins really fast.
Just my two cents: in most cases Highmountain Tauren is better than regular tauren. Tauren has: + Herbing skill and speed Highmountain tauren has: + Mining skill and speed + a small chance to get additional meat and fish. While the normal tauren will net more gold early on due to herbs usually costing more than ores, both of their passives will become null in Shadowlands. This is due to the new gathering enchant that allows quicker gathering for EVERY profession, as opposed to a single one in BFA. This means that the only real passive ability that's still active will be HT small chance to get meat & fish. Although you could argue that fishing takes time, the meat chance is triggered on every mob that can drop meat which makes it a really easily-triggered passive. I know these are VERY SMALL differences, but it was the deciding factor when I wanted a farming druid.
OMG this video was excellent. I don't think there is any other video like this on TH-cam or anywhere. Fantastic stuff man. I just have 1 super minor critic. Why would your Goblin Rogue be Gnomish Engineer? Lol just seems wrong. :P
@@SamadanPlaysWoW I am restructuring my Horde / Ally teams based on your recommendations. If I wanted to include a Death Knight what race would you recommend?
I've amassed every profession on 4 or 5, don't remember, alts. And no choices were gold making related. I think. Just a collection of choices that spans the expansion. Gnome Engineer 'cause I never had a Gnome and I envision my Engineer to be a Gnome (lol). My KT Warrior because I race changed and is Alchemy, Blacksmithing. Human Mage with Tailoring, Enchanting. So you can see how varied I went simply thinking, ''I picture my Mage doing enchanting..'' or ''My Warrior is a blacksmith''.. The alchemy bit is because I think his rep was convenient and I didn't want to work on rep on other alts (lol). Anyways keep up the series, even though some things I know, I just enjoy your style of content making and even having it play in the background as I play WoW myself.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW Absolutely, in a way it's min/maxing for gold making because every convenience, buff/racial, helps. If I were to start fresh this is definitely a video I'd follow! :)
Awesome video!! helps a lot!!! I would still go for a zandalari troll druid just because of the shapeshift forms XD!! but the other options really help me out thanks!!
7:30. Just use Custom Finder. Create a group. Left the group and you will exot dung after 1 min 10 secs. You leave the group 1 min before you want to leave a dungeon or raid and you teleport to the entrance
Monk Druid DH Nuff Said. anything that has good sustain with big AOE pulls. Hunters/druids are best pullers. and druids are best for mining herb. Skinning anything that can sustain big pulls. if you dont need to pull big. anything can skin.
Really appreciate this series as I just started getting into gold making (I know late start being the end of BfA) but in hopes of earning enough to at least start making a wow token each month Starting small with just a BS and some worse for wear gathering methods having sold roughly a 100 ore as a test sample of each making a little bit of gold this is definitely helping me although I am in the debate if I make my druid now and work my way through all those lvls or save it for SL as it's almost here but again thank you for the help ill try to at least put these profession combos to work.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW Thanks getting tips from a buddy using his operations and such since while I did look at your stuff for 4.9 I was concerned that if I followed it (being two years old) that it may not still work or that by the time I did get it flowing the 4.10 would be available and I'd have to start from scratch again but I might try it on a new TSM profile so I can start simple instead of all of his complicated things.
When it comes to gathering, I set up characters to minimize the amount of combat I'll have to do to get to a node. This means rogues with stealth bonuses, sap, and vanish, or Night Elves who can drop aggro with shadowmeld. On my new server, I've got Night Elf druids rather than Kul Tirans; the +5 Jack of All Trades bonus is nice for leveling, but shadowmeld lasts forever. :)
at9:25, its notes you should keep alchemy and inscription together, there is a error here, you will pay out the nose when ever you have TWO PRIMARY production skills and no gathering unless you have a dedicated gathering toon as an alternate.
The plan ideally is to buy mats cheap on the AH as gathering takes time and time is money. As a backup though, a dual gatherer fits well as an alternate.
In your opinion, does me maining a mage change whether I should have Alch/Inscript on it? Should I swap Inscript for Enchanting, in your opinion, since my mage is who I'll spend most of my time on? Or is the gold I will make throughout the expansion with Inscription enough to make up for not being able to constantly DE superfluous gear on my main? It kind of feels inefficient to not have enchanting on my main, since he'll be who I do all my rep farming on, but wanted your input. TL;DR: Since my main is a mage, should I do Alch/Enchanting instead of Alch/Inscription? I have a priest who will be a main-alt that would have the tailoring/enchanting, but I would change it to tailoring/Inscription if it wouldn't be too bad a loss.
I think it's too close to call. Alchemy and inscription go well because they both use herbs. You may lose a little by not being able to DE, but I don't think enchanting mats are going to be that expensive in Shadowlands so you can probably get away with vendoring spare gear.
Interesting/valuable presentation, but deleting a leveled-up trade skill and leveling something else would probably counteract any advantages from one of these combinations. In other words, think carefully about everything said in this video if you're making a new character and/or choosing a trade skill, but don't start over from scratch.
great video, amazing info! I'm just curious if a Highmountain Tauren Hunter wouldn't be a better choice for LW and Skinning, since they also can get extra meat
Hi, I really like this video. And I have a few questions as well. How does archeology relate to alchemy/inscription? does archeology offer something useful for these two professions?
Is gold making potential any worse if I switch Enchanting with Inscription? I wanna have my main as Alchemy and Enchanting for extra flask uptime and disenchanting since I'll play that character the most so I'll be able to disenchant a lot of extra gear.
I think the most efficient way to distribute professions right now is one druid with herbalism + mining and enchanting + other profession until you have all the professions. Right now one of the most valuable resorces are eternal cristals and you can get a los from WQ and the mission table but and those gear is soulbind so you need enchanting to disenchant. Once you have all the professions you can pair with Alchemist for the daily CD or whatever you want This the distrubution I'm working on Druid - Herbalism - Mining - My Farm Slave Druid - Enchanting - Alchemist - My Main Hunter - Enchanting - Engineering Rogue - Enchanting - Jewelcrafting Priest - Enchanting - Tailoring Monk - Enchanting - Leatherworking Paladin - Enchanting - Inscription DK - Enchanting - Blacksmith DH -Enchanting - Skinning Shaman - Enchanting - Alchemy Warlock - Enchanting - Alchemy Mage - Enchanting - Alchemy Warrior - Enchanting - Alchemy
@@SamadanPlaysWoW yes it's a long journey, but at some point I'll achieve it, there are a lot of time when you reach the limit with your main and you can focus on alts
im a pandaren, because they are cute! and for most of my time on this main ive been enchanting and alchemy, it worked out well in past expantions, but in BFA i switched alchemy with tailoring to make the 32 slot bags, and i dont know if i missed out, but i did make a lot of gold with the bags, the first few months of the game i ran a lot of dungeons and a good milion of my brutosaur gold is from that 1 item, for shadowlands im thinking of getting 2 gathering professions as the expantion starts, since i dont have any rare crafts, its not that big a problem for me, and then i can cash in on the early expantion herbs and ore, as to what ill pick after that, i dont know yet, ill prop go back to enchanting and something that catches my eye :)
I have a paladin main (bs/eng), warlock (ench/tail), druid (mining/herb), hunter (ski/lw), shaman (insc/alch) and warrior (jc/eng). My biggest problem is trying to keep up with all the reps. It's way too much. How do you do it? Or do you stick to the basic recipes? Have you lvled up the legendary recipes on all of your toons?
for troll, was it important to pick hunter? bc I made my skinner and LW a troll shaman just bc I find shaman more fun and the aoe cleave for farming with enh and instant casts with ele to tag mobs
I saw this vid after i made my character, but would it be okay if instead of making a gnome rogue, i use my mechagnome hunter for jewelcrafting and engineering? Or would it be better to just use a different class or race altogether? Ty, amazing vid btw
Im playing vulpera shaman as my main for SL so I picked enchanting but not sure about tailoring afterall I dont need to use those cloth armors.cuz I will get better eq from m+ right?
Hello Sam, when I have inscription and blacksmithing on my main character, and I want to exchange blacksmithing for alchemy, does it still pay off, even if I have most of the recipes and alchemy on a different character? Thx, really nice video :).
I'm always wary of swapping over professions after I've put a lot of work in them. I'm in a similar position and have Alch and Inscription on 2 different characters. It's a tough call. I've been tempted, but can't quite bring myself to do it!
I have 22 120's on one server. I already have all professions covered with 6. Should the other 16 toons all be Engineering / Alchemy for the daily CD's? Any need to have more than one of anything else? Thanks for what you do!!
Samadan, I recently invested in a second account. For multiple reasons. 2 questions, could you do a video on getting the best (Min max) out of duo boxing on the same computer? And also one more question, on my second (slave) I was planning on having enchanting just for the ability to disenchant when I run old raids and such for the mats. I would run both accounts through and then trade everything to the slave account. Would this make sense?
@@SamadanPlaysWoW I think if someone were convinced they would always keep both accounts running, it would make sense to concentrate on 6 characters, 3 groups of 2, if duo'd, you would never have to worry about reputation. Like you mentioned, the other account would just be busy blasting away at mass crafting
*Laughs in 2 heroic leaps on a 30 second cooldown+movement speed buff, along with a 2-min goblin power fart which, at this point, is just there to add insult to injury* And if the SL legendaries bring a certain effect back from Legion, I'll be laughing in 5 heroic leaps back to back. See you on the other side of the map boiii
@@SamadanPlaysWoW Legion world pvp areas were the best: right PVP talents, right legendary, and you got 5 leaps with no cd. Have you ever seen a crow fuck with a different animal, and it kinda seems like it's doing it for fun? Well, it is. And I was doing basically the same thing :))
@@SamadanPlaysWoW It is. My favorite class is Death Knight. But I ended up unlearning mining and change it to inscription, but I don't think that was a smart move =( I still have my druid gatherer though.
Disagree quite a lot here, actually. Namely I think you overestimate obvious 1-time effects (+skill) and don't think long-term. +Skill really doesn't do much for you in the long term at all. Gold making is not just about making gold, its also about spending less of it. You even mention this regarding goblins on Horde. Voidelves have discountet transmog. That can sound lame, but almost everyone transmogs once in a while, and that stuff is surprisingly expensive.
This is literally the best I've ever seen, I'm so happy I found this channel
Welcome onboard!
A Cross-Faction version would be dope since mailing between alts is possible now ! :) Great content
Thanks! Good idea on the update. I have it on the list!
I support the idea! It'd be awesome :)
@@SamadanPlaysWoW I am also interested in this updated video, it may be fun! Thank you!
Awesome video! This is a great 1st step for setting up a 6 character team for professions and is needed in my opinion! I know most experienced players have 6 characters now too and if they don't this is a great time to work on it!
Glad it was helpful! The next step is then more alts for cooldowns, but that is perhaps for another video! :)
For a 6 character limit I'd agree on those combos. But if you manage (likely) to get, let's say, both taurens on Horde, getting them as Druids and their respective racial's Profession combo (Tauren Druid with Herbalism and another profession, and HM Tauren Druid with Mining), you can create even 'better' combination IMO.
Currently, after getting those racial+profession combo, their second profession I chose is Engineering, even on my troll, which is also a hunter. Hunters specially, Leatherworking works wonders, even more so with Engineering. When you have more than 6 characters, you can put 2 crafting professions on more and more characters, and not so much of the Gathering on more than one.
But the prof I have most replicated is Engineering, almost on all toons, mostly for thei utility it brings:
- Loot-A-Rang Toy (picks up loot in a 40 yard radius, on cliffs, instantaneously, on the go, and etc)
- Moll-E Mail Toy (Mailbox wherever I go, whenever I want, on a 1h CD)
- Jeeves (recipe easily droppable, parts' recipes and crafting at least on one character to send to new engineers. Bank/extra mail/repair where you can't mount, like some instances)
- Extra teleportation (specially usefull on those character already with Gathering professions, to better and quickly get to the areas, and other farms)
- Permanent cheap tinkers (like cloak with the Gliders, best wherever you can't fly, like on beginning of expansions and other areas. Waterwalking tinker on other slot, shield tinker, disorienting tinker, etc, many choices)
- Extra AH access around expansions (Mining+Engineering gatherers, for example, can go to the more relaxing Sanctuary in the Vale of eternal Blossoms, and have bank+AH+Mail right on ONE SPOT, and Forge+Anvil for smelting nearby, if needed)
- Other Engineering benefits
Currently I have this setup, on Horde side:
Druids: HM tauren (Mining+Eng) and tauren (Herbalism+ENg)
Main (Hunter): Troll (LW(mail mogs)+Eng)
Warrior: Goblin (Main Alchemist(transmute specialist)+Engi(Goblin engineerin))
**DK: Orc (BS+JC) - one of the only character I didn't put engineering
*DH: BElf (Enchanting main(Leather), for racial+Engi)
Rogue: Forsaken (Skinner+Eng)
Monk: Pandaren (Main cooker+LW(leather mogs)+eng)
**Mage: Goblin (Main tailor(cloth mogs)+2nd Alchemist(Potion/Flask Specialist))
*Warlock: BElf (Cloth Enchanter+Eng)
Shaman: Tauren (Extra Herbalist+Eng)
Priest: Troll (Extra Tailor(hexweave bags for example)+Eng)
Hunter: Nightborne (Main Inscritptionist+Eng)
*Hunter: Mag'Har Orc (Mail Enchanter+Eng)
*Paladin: Zandalari (yeah, didn't go for the 'druid hype', sorry, paladin zandalari works best with the Regeneratin' racial :P) (Plate Enchanter+Eng)
** Currently DK and Mage are the only ones without engineering, the mage (and goblin) specially, wouldn't need the extra bank, and teleporting (mage duh). The DK though... well, JC I already farmed over a year for those cata recipes, and the BS recipes I bought many and got many reputations for them too (also he's a plate wearer anyway, for the BoP moggies).
* A note on those 4 enchanters, 1 at least for each armor type (Cloth, Leather, those 2 on Belves, Mail and PLate), so any BoE I don't have 'learned' (transmog), I'd prefer to learn them on those 4, respectively, and disenchant the piece after, rather than vendor it, 2 on 1.
Currently I have the Vulpera, with alchemy (looking to get the 3rd speciallization) plus engineering or another profession. But engineering really helps most of the toons, and you can already farm the golem recipe on most, if not all, of them (already can craft the Jards thingy on 7 of them) and craft lots of golem in parallel for huge and fast profits, as the Sky Golem is one of the top mount vendors out there, pretty much in any kind of servers (low or high pop), and can sell fast, once crafted.
Lemme know what are your racial/profession/class combos out there :P
That's a good list! Thanks for sharing. I'd certainly agree engineering is good, especially for the mounts you can make.
Such an informative, logical and relaxing video to watch for a newbie gold maker like myself, many thanks!
My pleasure! Glad it helped!
For the Horde LW/Skinner, to me a Highmountain stands out due to the increased meat drops. Having a skinner who gets bonus meat (as well as a main fisher who gets bonus meat) seems like a nice boost
Yeah, that's certainly a good choice!
As a brand new player, these vids are ridiculously helpful, feeling a little more confident already! Thank you for putting this type of content out 🤟🤟💙
My pleasure!
Oh, thank goodness. In 2020, I spent a long time farming for Fangs of the Father with my Gnome Rogue. I finally got them, but I was unsatisfied with my character because I felt it wasn't the best race/class/profession combo (I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to WoW). But after watching this video, I can start playing it again! Good thing I didn't delete my character.
I started BFA on a new server with a 110 boost, a 110 transfer and around 300k gold. To this day I got all classes at 120 on this server and all the professions maxed out. I also a solid gold making operation going, with inscription sales as the best seller. Per now, I got the brutosaur mount, bought my GF a brutosaur mount, I supply 4 accounts with wow tokens and buy stuff regulary with tokens. And according to TSM I've sold stuff for more than 70 million the last year, and I'm guessing more since thats 1 year of TSM data.
Personally I am really proud of going from a gold maker noob to this in 2 years. So, you can start from 0 and earn alot of gold as long as you put your head into it, and invest time.
My best golmaking combo has been a Nightborne rogue with inscription and alchemy. The mailbox is just priceless!
What a wonderful success story! That's a nice combo for sure.
Can you tell me where you went for ideas on how to make serious gold when you started? I have all classes at 120 on a server and I'm considering coming back to WoW to make gold but I'm lost. TH-cam guides are either not up to date or way too long for me.
@@egaskubegaskub6418 First off, Im lazy, so I do the least amount of effort in order to get the gold. I used someone elses groups and operations, and then edited those over time. Since I didnt understand TSM that well then, I had to calculate stuff to make sure it wasnt a loss.
As for learning stuff, dip your toe in markets, and check if its worth your time. Dont waste too much gold on new projects. Make sure you use, for instance 10% of your total gold for research. If it fails, you dont want to be broke if it fails.
I also make gold in a way that is fun for me, where i can earn a steady amount of gold while also raiding, doing m+ and collecting stuff. I do emmisaries and go for paragons on alts. As for crafting, I have all the professions, and I make sure I can get consumables cheap -> i.e, i make it myself. I also do alot of flipping and reset markets.
As for what to craft, I just choose whatever I find fun making, while also being able to play the game. I dislike making mounts, so I dont do that, but I do like making consumables, so I do that instead.
Also, when you sell and undercut stuff matters. Do it when it counts, ignore it the rest of the time. Peak hours for me is between 18.00-23.00. I also focus on it on days people buy my stuff; sunday and wednesday.
Lastly, time is money. Try to make the most amount of money, with the least amount of time used. Selling stuff that give little gold may not be worth your time. Ive ignored cooking in BFA, as it doesnt give me enough gold based on the time I use on it. Vantus runes however... $$$$
Still useful for new players in 2023, good video
I love this series! You are amazing Samadan! Great job!
Glad you enjoy it!
Awesome video Sam, covers about everything in choices and setups. The only combination I miss is a tailor and skinner on 1 toon, this is pref your best geared toon and used to farm either cloth or skins really fast.
Thankyou! That's a really good idea for fast farms with choices of where to go.
Really good video. This was exactly the kind of information I was looking for!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just my two cents: in most cases Highmountain Tauren is better than regular tauren.
Tauren has:
+ Herbing skill and speed
Highmountain tauren has:
+ Mining skill and speed
+ a small chance to get additional meat and fish.
While the normal tauren will net more gold early on due to herbs usually costing more than ores, both of their passives will become null in Shadowlands. This is due to the new gathering enchant that allows quicker gathering for EVERY profession, as opposed to a single one in BFA. This means that the only real passive ability that's still active will be HT small chance to get meat & fish. Although you could argue that fishing takes time, the meat chance is triggered on every mob that can drop meat which makes it a really easily-triggered passive. I know these are VERY SMALL differences, but it was the deciding factor when I wanted a farming druid.
Given a choice, I'd do the same for the exact same reason.
Should I go Highmountain tauren or regular tauren in 2023? I like gathering in mmo games, Im a new player btw
Awesome video! Thanks for the team comps!
Any time!
I've spent ages trying to work out the best race/class/profession combinations - wish I just found this video first.
OMG this video was excellent. I don't think there is any other video like this on TH-cam or anywhere. Fantastic stuff man. I just have 1 super minor critic. Why would your Goblin Rogue be Gnomish Engineer? Lol just seems wrong. :P
Fair point, easy to swap over.
great video, answered a bunch of my burning questions. Thank you!
Glad to help!
@@SamadanPlaysWoW I am restructuring my Horde / Ally teams based on your recommendations. If I wanted to include a Death Knight what race would you recommend?
I've amassed every profession on 4 or 5, don't remember, alts. And no choices were gold making related. I think. Just a collection of choices that spans the expansion. Gnome Engineer 'cause I never had a Gnome and I envision my Engineer to be a Gnome (lol). My KT Warrior because I race changed and is Alchemy, Blacksmithing. Human Mage with Tailoring, Enchanting. So you can see how varied I went simply thinking, ''I picture my Mage doing enchanting..'' or ''My Warrior is a blacksmith''.. The alchemy bit is because I think his rep was convenient and I didn't want to work on rep on other alts (lol). Anyways keep up the series, even though some things I know, I just enjoy your style of content making and even having it play in the background as I play WoW myself.
Thanks! I'm the same, I go with what "feels right" in most cases. But this way makes more sense when starting from scratch.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW Absolutely, in a way it's min/maxing for gold making because every convenience, buff/racial, helps. If I were to start fresh this is definitely a video I'd follow! :)
Awesome video!! helps a lot!!! I would still go for a zandalari troll druid just because of the shapeshift forms XD!! but the other options really help me out thanks!!
You're welcome! Most definitely go for what's most fun!
7:30. Just use Custom Finder. Create a group. Left the group and you will exot dung after 1 min 10 secs. You leave the group 1 min before you want to leave a dungeon or raid and you teleport to the entrance
There is that too!
Great video Sam !!
Thanks! This was a lot of fun to make!
Very helpful video. I will use your advices. Thank you!!
You are welcome!
can we just pin this on the woweconomy subreddit so that every 6 hours when the question is asked just point to this vid?
Haha! Good idea!
Yes please
I have a Shaman for Alchemy/Inscription. Shamans have the exclusive glyph recipe Glypg of Flickering :)
That's brilliant! Glyphs seem to have quite a few specialist options, I went with the mage one purely on how much it sell for!
content!!!!! ty and I hope all is well.
You are very welcome, and all is well thankyou!
Wow! Great video!
Thanks!
Monk Druid DH Nuff Said. anything that has good sustain with big AOE pulls. Hunters/druids are best pullers. and druids are best for mining herb. Skinning anything that can sustain big pulls. if you dont need to pull big. anything can skin.
Very true, I love skinning on my DH
Really appreciate this series as I just started getting into gold making (I know late start being the end of BfA) but in hopes of earning enough to at least start making a wow token each month Starting small with just a BS and some worse for wear gathering methods having sold roughly a 100 ore as a test sample of each making a little bit of gold this is definitely helping me although I am in the debate if I make my druid now and work my way through all those lvls or save it for SL as it's almost here but again thank you for the help ill try to at least put these profession combos to work.
Glad you're finding it useful. You're doing exactly what I did, start small and try things out until you find something that works for you.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW Thanks getting tips from a buddy using his operations and such since while I did look at your stuff for 4.9 I was concerned that if I followed it (being two years old) that it may not still work or that by the time I did get it flowing the 4.10 would be available and I'd have to start from scratch again but I might try it on a new TSM profile so I can start simple instead of all of his complicated things.
When it comes to gathering, I set up characters to minimize the amount of combat I'll have to do to get to a node. This means rogues with stealth bonuses, sap, and vanish, or Night Elves who can drop aggro with shadowmeld. On my new server, I've got Night Elf druids rather than Kul Tirans; the +5 Jack of All Trades bonus is nice for leveling, but shadowmeld lasts forever. :)
That's a good idea with shadowmeld, I usually end up tanking it out :)
this is exactly what i needed
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Lots of good info, thank you
My pleasure!
at9:25, its notes you should keep alchemy and inscription together, there is a error here, you will pay out the nose when ever you have TWO PRIMARY production skills and no gathering unless you have a dedicated gathering toon as an alternate.
The plan ideally is to buy mats cheap on the AH as gathering takes time and time is money. As a backup though, a dual gatherer fits well as an alternate.
Great channel
Thanks again!
hey samadan can u plz do an updated version of this video for shadowlands or even dragonflight
In your opinion, does me maining a mage change whether I should have Alch/Inscript on it? Should I swap Inscript for Enchanting, in your opinion, since my mage is who I'll spend most of my time on? Or is the gold I will make throughout the expansion with Inscription enough to make up for not being able to constantly DE superfluous gear on my main? It kind of feels inefficient to not have enchanting on my main, since he'll be who I do all my rep farming on, but wanted your input.
TL;DR: Since my main is a mage, should I do Alch/Enchanting instead of Alch/Inscription? I have a priest who will be a main-alt that would have the tailoring/enchanting, but I would change it to tailoring/Inscription if it wouldn't be too bad a loss.
I think it's too close to call. Alchemy and inscription go well because they both use herbs. You may lose a little by not being able to DE, but I don't think enchanting mats are going to be that expensive in Shadowlands so you can probably get away with vendoring spare gear.
Great vid! Thanks
You're welcome!
I'd like to see a update on this Samadan
there a classic version of this list? If so, Perhaps that's worth a video :D
Noted!
Interesting/valuable presentation, but deleting a leveled-up trade skill and leveling something else would probably counteract any advantages from one of these combinations. In other words, think carefully about everything said in this video if you're making a new character and/or choosing a trade skill, but don't start over from scratch.
I totally agree. I wouldn't recommend removing a profession already levelled.
Very useful!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice.
Thanks!
With the changes made in 10.2.5 I think Dracthyr may be the way to go for any gathering profession!
But why are you gathering anyway
True on both counts!
11:42 anyone know what that armor is?
also this video was very helpful, thanks :)
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Great video As Patrick Willian said ! :p Could you had a link to a playlist of all of the episode ? =D *nvm found it at the end of the video !*
Glad you found it! Lot's more to come!
great video, amazing info! I'm just curious if a Highmountain Tauren Hunter wouldn't be a better choice for LW and Skinning, since they also can get extra meat
Certainly a very good option!
Hi, I really like this video. And I have a few questions as well.
How does archeology relate to alchemy/inscription? does archeology offer something useful for these two professions?
Archaeology and Alchemy go together for the Vial of the Sands mount, that's the main thing.
Really good vids :)
Glad you like them!
Is gold making potential any worse if I switch Enchanting with Inscription? I wanna have my main as Alchemy and Enchanting for extra flask uptime and disenchanting since I'll play that character the most so I'll be able to disenchant a lot of extra gear.
I'd say your current pair is good too. I'd never recommend dropping one profession especially if you've invested time in developing it.
I think the most efficient way to distribute professions right now is one druid with herbalism + mining and enchanting + other profession until you have all the professions.
Right now one of the most valuable resorces are eternal cristals and you can get a los from WQ and the mission table but and those gear is soulbind so you need enchanting to disenchant.
Once you have all the professions you can pair with Alchemist for the daily CD or whatever you want
This the distrubution I'm working on
Druid - Herbalism - Mining - My Farm Slave
Druid - Enchanting - Alchemist - My Main
Hunter - Enchanting - Engineering
Rogue - Enchanting - Jewelcrafting
Priest - Enchanting - Tailoring
Monk - Enchanting - Leatherworking
Paladin - Enchanting - Inscription
DK - Enchanting - Blacksmith
DH -Enchanting - Skinning
Shaman - Enchanting - Alchemy
Warlock - Enchanting - Alchemy
Mage - Enchanting - Alchemy
Warrior - Enchanting - Alchemy
Nice list! That's a lot of characters to get to 60 and get renown high enough for the WQ
@@SamadanPlaysWoW yes it's a long journey, but at some point I'll achieve it, there are a lot of time when you reach the limit with your main and you can focus on alts
Does the same reasoning apply in WoW Classic? Maybe you can make a similar video for Classic? :)
I think so in general terms. With Classic, there is less race/class choice, so that is a factor.
im a pandaren, because they are cute! and for most of my time on this main ive been enchanting and alchemy, it worked out well in past expantions, but in BFA i switched alchemy with tailoring to make the 32 slot bags, and i dont know if i missed out, but i did make a lot of gold with the bags, the first few months of the game i ran a lot of dungeons and a good milion of my brutosaur gold is from that 1 item, for shadowlands im thinking of getting 2 gathering professions as the expantion starts, since i dont have any rare crafts, its not that big a problem for me, and then i can cash in on the early expantion herbs and ore, as to what ill pick after that, i dont know yet, ill prop go back to enchanting and something that catches my eye :)
Sounds like you are following the golden rule - make sure it's fun for you! With all your alts you've got plenty of choices.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW all my alts? nah im not an alt kind of person, i just like gold P;
I have a paladin main (bs/eng), warlock (ench/tail), druid (mining/herb), hunter (ski/lw), shaman (insc/alch) and warrior (jc/eng). My biggest problem is trying to keep up with all the reps. It's way too much. How do you do it? Or do you stick to the basic recipes? Have you lvled up the legendary recipes on all of your toons?
for troll, was it important to pick hunter? bc I made my skinner and LW a troll shaman just bc I find shaman more fun and the aoe cleave for farming with enh and instant casts with ele to tag mobs
Not at all! Go with what you find fun to play first and foremost!
I saw this vid after i made my character, but would it be okay if instead of making a gnome rogue, i use my mechagnome hunter for jewelcrafting and engineering? Or would it be better to just use a different class or race altogether? Ty, amazing vid btw
That make's perfect sense. You don't lose the Rogue ability to pick locks because of the Mechagnome. Most of all, have fun. Happy goldmaking!
With Panda Remix and new expansion what changes would you make if any?
What about Cooking and Fishing?
Im playing vulpera shaman as my main for SL so I picked enchanting but not sure about tailoring afterall I dont need to use those cloth armors.cuz I will get better eq from m+ right?
It's more because tailoring easily feeds enchanting more than what you wear yourself. Maybe alchemy would help if you plan on m+
@@SamadanPlaysWoW so you suggest alchemy+ enchanting?
Hello Sam, when I have inscription and blacksmithing on my main character, and I want to exchange blacksmithing for alchemy, does it still pay off, even if I have most of the recipes and alchemy on a different character?
Thx, really nice video :).
I'm always wary of swapping over professions after I've put a lot of work in them. I'm in a similar position and have Alch and Inscription on 2 different characters. It's a tough call. I've been tempted, but can't quite bring myself to do it!
@@SamadanPlaysWoW It's a really difficult question, isn't it? Thank you for your time and answer.
best race for fishing for both alliance and horde? i know shaman is good but what are the best races for the 2 factions?
I don't think there is a specific race I would choose for fishing. Like you said Shaman is my main factor due to water walking.
For horde there is the option of highmountain since they get the rare extra fish/meat
I have 22 120's on one server. I already have all professions covered with 6. Should the other 16 toons all be Engineering / Alchemy for the daily CD's? Any need to have more than one of anything else? Thanks for what you do!!
Those are good choices for cds. You could maybe throw a couple in for tailor inscription cards of omens and hexweave bags.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW Awesome. Ty
How about a Blood Elf Mage Character with Enchanting and Tailoring?
Sounds fun!
New player here. For the part where you mention which classes can wear mail, has this changed in SL or can leather wears also wear mail?
Hunters and Shaman are the only ones who can wear mail now.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW thank you! Love your NA Lightbringer series too it inspired me to download TSM so I can start making gold too
Samadan, I recently invested in a second account. For multiple reasons. 2 questions, could you do a video on getting the best (Min max) out of duo boxing on the same computer? And also one more question, on my second (slave) I was planning on having enchanting just for the ability to disenchant when I run old raids and such for the mats. I would run both accounts through and then trade everything to the slave account. Would this make sense?
I'll certainly look into it. I imagine dual boxing will be good for mass crafting on one while playing the other.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW I think if someone were convinced they would always keep both accounts running, it would make sense to concentrate on 6 characters, 3 groups of 2, if duo'd, you would never have to worry about reputation. Like you mentioned, the other account would just be busy blasting away at mass crafting
Let's say i have more than 6 alts, what are the professions i could get in triple or more ? Alchemy ? something else ?
Alchemy and engineering are good for multiples.
Ty
What is the druid spell that allow you to port back to the entrance of an instance?
Dreamwalk
@@SamadanPlaysWoW thank you I us my druid for lots of raw gold farming
hey samadan can u tell me what set of armor is the kultiran druid it looks sick
Chest - Oathclaw Vestment
Head - Warmongering Gladiator's Dagonhide Helm
Shoulders - Oathclaw Mantle
Gloves - Oathclaw Gauntlets
Belt - Tyrannical Gladiator's Belt of Cruelty
Legs - Thunderlord Leggings
Feet - Glacier Walkers
*Laughs in 2 heroic leaps on a 30 second cooldown+movement speed buff, along with a 2-min goblin power fart which, at this point, is just there to add insult to injury*
And if the SL legendaries bring a certain effect back from Legion, I'll be laughing in 5 heroic leaps back to back. See you on the other side of the map boiii
Sounds fun whatever you're doing!
@@SamadanPlaysWoW Legion world pvp areas were the best: right PVP talents, right legendary, and you got 5 leaps with no cd.
Have you ever seen a crow fuck with a different animal, and it kinda seems like it's doing it for fun? Well, it is. And I was doing basically the same thing :))
I'm 100% certain they named it forge of light as a pun
Probably:)
@@SamadanPlaysWoW I've been meaning to ask, why goblin engineering with blacksmithing specifically? Is gnomish not compatible?
I feel so bad ..my first character is blood elf warrior
Sounds good to me! Go with what you find fun!
Is this still up to date?
Yes it is.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW thank you
I started my main with blacksmithing and mining...feels bad.
Sounds a great combination! I'm assuming you main is a plate wearer?
@@SamadanPlaysWoW It is. My favorite class is Death Knight. But I ended up unlearning mining and change it to inscription, but I don't think that was a smart move =( I still have my druid gatherer though.
why don't you have allied races?
I never got round to picking them up! :)
how do I get gnomish engineering as a horde?
You should get the choice at your engineering trainer in your home city.
@@SamadanPlaysWoW one more question. the goblin has a passive for alchemy skill increased by 15 wouldn't that be better than nightborne?
It's *Shaw-Mon* , not _Shay-men_
Great Video btw. :-)
Thanks! I also say bee-ta not bay-ta :)
It might have been worth saying that this guide is for pure beginners.
Thanks for the feedback!
Monks ?
Yep, one of those too if you want to do stationary ox farms.
ok
Ok
@@SamadanPlaysWoW ok
Disagree quite a lot here, actually.
Namely I think you overestimate obvious 1-time effects (+skill) and don't think long-term. +Skill really doesn't do much for you in the long term at all.
Gold making is not just about making gold, its also about spending less of it. You even mention this regarding goblins on Horde.
Voidelves have discountet transmog. That can sound lame, but almost everyone transmogs once in a while, and that stuff is surprisingly expensive.
That's exactly why I put the +skill in mid tier. All the long term ones are top tier.