Neo was wilding out in this one, and i love it!! She was a very accurate representation of how dangerous depression is. Feeling so hopeless, the past coming bacl to haunt you, beating your ass with guilt and regret over and over again. And then the "suicide trigger": watching Little die, another innocent being she couldn't save. Perfection.
I've known a few people with depression, including myself and I've not seen any of them go into wanting to erase others from existence and murder everything around them.... Depression or not, Neo deserves nothing but absolute pain and misery because of what she has done to others
So I’m pretty sure that Little is supposed to represent Ruby’s inner child, as well as that friend that never truly gives up - no matter how many times they’re snapped at or have taken the brunt of a friends Borderline rage. So this episode is simultaneously, truly innocence lost, and losing that last pillar that they didn’t know they had been using to keep themselves standing.
I like the detail with Neo-Penny saying “I died in Atlas too, didn’t I?” Because Neo really wasn’t there to know that information. Same with characters she knew died but never got to see for herself; Clover and Lionheart. She doesn’t know how they died so she can only assume it’s because of Ruby. Wonder how she knew about Lionheart’s weapon tho🤔. Guess it’s possible that Cinder told her.
Since team “CREM” from volume 3 came from Haven, Lionhart being the headmaster, she prolly knew the weapon cause of that. Also the headmasters are certified hunters, so maybe their weapons are kinda like semi-public knowledge
@@chrisdiokno5600 yup and as for Monkie kid you can look it up on youtube and find clips of macaque to hear him. He pretty much sounds like an evil Josuke lol
I’ve never had my stomach and heart drop so suddenly like it did seeing this episode. I haven’t watched this show in a long time (season 3) and that still hurt. Depression fucking blows
billy kametz was such a talented voice actor (maruki in persona 5 royal, ferdinand in fire emblem three houses). the moment roman spoke i was so shocked that it was him after he passed away like a year ago.
This was insane episode but also seeing torchwick again was quite entertaining in a way even if it was neos clone it was still cool and damn Pyrrha it's been so long after we seen her last
Neo radiated black air force energy here. She actually skyrocketed as one of my favourites because of this episode. Also my dumbass trusting a character voiced by Robbie.
I was like "well now that I've seen chapter 9 I think I can deal with 8 for the reactions!" ...and man I was wrong lol my god this chapter is too dark lol *crying inside*
After the cat made Hawker sacrifice himself to the Jaberwalker I didn’t trust them, and it would appear I was right to do so. The curious Cath Palug🐈, a horrible creature, with an insatiable hunger…in this case for knowledge and power.
Amazing timing happened when i watched this i had bad WiFi at the time and when Roman delivered his reality line my video got blurry at that time and it was amazing
It's a little easier to stomach after having watched the latest episode but still, That was downright disturbing, almost Evangelion level. Neo destroyed Ruby in a way Cinder only wishes she could.
And yet, Cinder simply doesn't care, which is why Cinder was content to simply send them to their deaths in the void. For Cinder, getting revenge on Ruby means nothing in comparison to getting her revenge on Salem and the rest of the world, or Cinder's overarching plans for global/multiversal domination. Besides, Cinder has already traumatised Ruby and her friends more than anyone else, including Neo - Cinder killed Pyrrha, Penny (twice), and is responsible for most of the suffering that the heroes have endured throughout the series. Neo in this episode was just emphasising the trauma caused by Cinder - Neo may have waved that pain in Ruby's face, but the pain itself was caused by Cinder. As I've always said, Neo is highly susceptible to the manipulations of others. She really thought she was the greatest manipulator in the world, but ultimately ended up as just another pawn in the Curious Cat's larger game. Just like how Neo was just another pawn in Cinder's larger game - at least *_twice._* Neo displayed her peak villainy in this episode, and it was glorious; I loved it! However, Neo could never operate on the level of villainy and cunning that bigger and badder villains such as Cinder Fall and the Curious Cat do. Cinder Fall was always the *_main_* villain, and the likes of Neo are just lesser villains in Cinder's schemes.
A repeat warning was bad enough. But I don't think anyone was expecting for this to be a psychological horror. So much to unpack and theorize... *-Episode 8 :Tea Amidst Terrible Trouble* -RWBY quote of the chapter _“It's not a place you go. It's a place you know.” (Curious Cat)_ -Missed Signs The moment when the team realized their error with regards to the leader; they relied too much on her. Weiss summarized it well enough, that even though they had good intentions, it did have a negative effect on her as well. Yang's reaction, at first seemed less sympathetic than the others, as Blake and Weiss had somewhat of an understanding of what she could be feeling. But it is more likely that Yang regards Ruby in a much higher standard than even herself. After Beacon fell, Yang had a time where she just wanted to give up, whereas Ruby continued on. That likely left Yang with the impression that Ruby was a much stronger person than she was and she could deal with problems better than she could. But everyone has their limits. And Ruby has apparently reached hers... -Shattered The scene with Ruby walking away reminds me of the scene of the many reincarnations of Ozma, how there were times where the burden was too much for him and he would give up, only to later on continue his mission. Except Ruby doesn't have the blessing/curse of rebirth (that we know of) after. She always did worry about letting people down. Regarding the fight itself, one or two things comes to mind. One is that, interestingly enough, even though she didn't take Crescent Rose in the previous chapter, on this one, she had it and used it without difficulty. A instinctual reaction, perhaps? A small sign that even though she is consciously unsure of who she is, subconsciously, she will always be a Huntress. Second is regards to her opponents. Although it made sense for many of the characters to be there, for Neo's psychological attack to be effective, less so much with regards to Lionheart and Clover. Neither of them were killed or even had no connection for Ruby to even feel guilty or responsible due to her actions (aside from Clover being one of her teachers in Atlas maybe). Nevertheless, Neo's plan worked, having familiar faces punish Ruby and forcing her to retaliate, only to use Oscar's image in place to give her a horrifying image to finish the job. And then stomping on Little (although I don't think he's dead) further broke her down further enough to give up to surrender to Neo. -Victory? Neo's power is more than OP. I'm not sure if much of her power is from her evolved Semblance or a side affect of the Ever After (or both), but its beyond absurd. She's is literally a walking _Reality Infinity Stone_ with her ability being more potent than Emerald's illusions. And even then, there was a limit to Emerald's ability that stressed her mentally, whereas Neo didn't show any sort of drawback (initially). The replicas she created were far too complex than the jabberwaky, so much so that they spoke, reacted, and fought exactly as their real counterparts would. That would take an insane amount of imagination and knowledge to construct, especially given that there may be one or two of the people that she never had contact with. A possibe drawback though... Once she completed her vengeance, she broke down herself, having nothing else to strive for and realizing that ending Ruby didn't change the fact that Roman is gone and leaving her prone for Curious to possess her. What's weird is her demeanor after. In most cases like this, after the person gets their revenge, there is a usually a moment of satisfaction, of achievement, before they realized what they've done was pointless (like a caffeine crash). But there was no such moment for Neo. The moment Ruby fell, she just...shut down. Giving the oddity of the Ever After, it may have a greater strain on those who are mentally/emotionally damaged, to those who don't know their purpose. -Curious Intentions It was already clear that Curious was different from the other Afterains, but his revelation shows that a great deal more. Here we find Curious' true goal, to discover why his creators left him in the Ever After, cursed with endlessly curiosity. And to get to his goal, he needed someone with a broken heart to take control over (Basically following the premise of the movie _Upgrade_ ). By all rights, you would think that he would have teamed up with Neo, but he likely learned of Neo's intentions and interfered just as Ruby reached past the breaking point. But after Ruby was gone, he found another host in Neo (creating nightmare fuel in the process). -The Tree Obviously, reaching the tree in the focus of this volume, with so many questions and thoughts about it. What is it's true purpose? Death? Ascension? A rebirth or metamorphosis of some kind (the random butterflies is indicated of something) A portal out of there? The only thing that can be said honestly is that the Afterains don't fear it, but rather welcome it. If there is anything true about what Curious said, it may effect the people of Remnant differently. Particularly in Ruby's case, as now the tree seemed to wither and grow dark after she fell into the void (likely the roots). Neo certainly believed that brewing a tea from leaves would be the end of Ruby (How Neo learned that is another question). Could that be what happened to Louis? And what did Curious meant by the above words? So many questions... A random thought... What if in order to save Ruby from or for her metamorphosis, an exchange of time is needed. Jaune would give two years to Ruby, reverting him back to his younger self and aging Ruby two years (making her the same age as the rest of her team).
Probably reading too much into this, but the Tree's leaves seem to have 3 primary colours: yellow and purple that remind me of the Brothers, and green.
Many of them burnt up in Cinder's flames during the descent. In Ruby's flashback of Cinder during Volume 9, Chapter 7, we see several bodies of those she had killed fall while consumed in balls of fire behind her. There were, of course, also bodies that fell that weren't on fire, but the Ever After is so weird and unknown that the corpses that survived being burnt to ash by Cinder simply fell to a random part of the realm and were never seen again. Or they could have disappeared another way, since all manner of things are possible inside the Ever After.
I loved the whole spectacle that Neo gave us, a little upset that the cat got control of her and i hope eventually he will let go of her so we can see more of Neo. Gonna be really upset if they eventually kill her
its a lot worse than Neo being more powerful . that cat now has a human body and is heading for the tree . there's only one reason it would do that . to try and leave the ever after . and it reaches reminant ? if it reaches Salem ? If It offers her its services ? 😱 the enemy of my enemy
On one hand (no spoilers please), I have a feeling the Tree won’t hurt Ruby, and we know Afterans get a new purpose after they die, so Little may become more of a warrior in their next reincarnation. Perhaps I’m just trying to cope with the absolute horror this episode was.😭 Either way, I hope Neo suffers and gets her karma…🔥😡☠️
If the reincarnation thing works for them, I just Little comes back soon!😭 And yeah, Neo’s far beyond the point of forgiveness, even before what she did this episode!🔥😡☠️
It was never a fight. Neo was too weak and broken to put up any resistance to the Cat. But if you're referring to before Ruby drank the Tree tea, I'm not sure that fight would have had much purpose.
@@TheGreater-ScopeVillain too me it wasn't about the purpose of the fight more about how cool a full fight between neo and curious cat would be, because we haven't really seen curious cat fight, we've seen him do attacks but not a full out fight
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Ozpin straight up gave Ruby the Jason Todd treatment
Joker: 5/10 didn't even use a crowbar haha
Neo was wilding out in this one, and i love it!! She was a very accurate representation of how dangerous depression is. Feeling so hopeless, the past coming bacl to haunt you, beating your ass with guilt and regret over and over again. And then the "suicide trigger": watching Little die, another innocent being she couldn't save. Perfection.
I've known a few people with depression, including myself and I've not seen any of them go into wanting to erase others from existence and murder everything around them....
Depression or not, Neo deserves nothing but absolute pain and misery because of what she has done to others
@@vegvisir9276 hear hear! Death to Neo and her Mary Poppins looking ass 🤣🤣🤣
@@vegvisir9276 Agreed, Neo needs to be punished🔥☠️
“But, now, I am much more than that and I wish I was not.” - Penny Polendina. Both Ruby and Penny were “burdened with glorious purpose”.
So I’m pretty sure that Little is supposed to represent Ruby’s inner child, as well as that friend that never truly gives up - no matter how many times they’re snapped at or have taken the brunt of a friends Borderline rage. So this episode is simultaneously, truly innocence lost, and losing that last pillar that they didn’t know they had been using to keep themselves standing.
I’d say Ruby & even the rest of them, have pretty much lost their innocence already.
Hell, just being a literal child-soldier in general haha
I like the detail with Neo-Penny saying “I died in Atlas too, didn’t I?” Because Neo really wasn’t there to know that information. Same with characters she knew died but never got to see for herself; Clover and Lionheart. She doesn’t know how they died so she can only assume it’s because of Ruby. Wonder how she knew about Lionheart’s weapon tho🤔. Guess it’s possible that Cinder told her.
Since team “CREM” from volume 3 came from Haven, Lionhart being the headmaster, she prolly knew the weapon cause of that.
Also the headmasters are certified hunters, so maybe their weapons are kinda like semi-public knowledge
Billy Kemitz, RIP, voiced Roman. He also voiced Ferdinand in Fire Emblem Three Houses
Josuke from Jojo's Diamond is Unbreakable and Macaque from Monkie Kid
@@travisherndon94 Haven't seen Monkie Kid, but he was Josuke? Huh. Never knew he was the guy who voiced him in the dub
@@chrisdiokno5600 yup and as for Monkie kid you can look it up on youtube and find clips of macaque to hear him. He pretty much sounds like an evil Josuke lol
also Maruki from persona 5
He's FERDINAND VON AEGIR!
I love how we all go through
see the cat:🙂
to see the cat: 🤬
I'm surprised at how few reactors commented on how adorable Neo was just after attacking Ruby.
Nothing adorable about her.
I know right
To be fair we’re still somewhat in shock after seeing the tea party of the dead
Calyxn did.
I mean to be fair, she’s wacked out of her mind. Adorableness is definitely not the first thing to think of lol
I’ve never had my stomach and heart drop so suddenly like it did seeing this episode. I haven’t watched this show in a long time (season 3) and that still hurt. Depression fucking blows
billy kametz was such a talented voice actor (maruki in persona 5 royal, ferdinand in fire emblem three houses). the moment roman spoke i was so shocked that it was him after he passed away like a year ago.
This was insane episode but also seeing torchwick again was quite entertaining in a way even if it was neos clone it was still cool and damn Pyrrha it's been so long after we seen her last
"It's not a place to go, it's a place you know". The tree is not a place, it is a state of mind.
Neo radiated black air force energy here.
She actually skyrocketed as one of my favourites because of this episode.
Also my dumbass trusting a character voiced by Robbie.
I was like "well now that I've seen chapter 9 I think I can deal with 8 for the reactions!" ...and man I was wrong lol my god this chapter is too dark lol *crying inside*
After the cat made Hawker sacrifice himself to the Jaberwalker I didn’t trust them, and it would appear I was right to do so. The curious Cath Palug🐈, a horrible creature, with an insatiable hunger…in this case for knowledge and power.
Amazing timing happened when i watched this i had bad WiFi at the time and when Roman delivered his reality line my video got blurry at that time and it was amazing
So did mine, right before he said the line!
It's a little easier to stomach after having watched the latest episode but still, That was downright disturbing, almost Evangelion level.
Neo destroyed Ruby in a way Cinder only wishes she could.
And yet, Cinder simply doesn't care, which is why Cinder was content to simply send them to their deaths in the void. For Cinder, getting revenge on Ruby means nothing in comparison to getting her revenge on Salem and the rest of the world, or Cinder's overarching plans for global/multiversal domination. Besides, Cinder has already traumatised Ruby and her friends more than anyone else, including Neo - Cinder killed Pyrrha, Penny (twice), and is responsible for most of the suffering that the heroes have endured throughout the series. Neo in this episode was just emphasising the trauma caused by Cinder - Neo may have waved that pain in Ruby's face, but the pain itself was caused by Cinder.
As I've always said, Neo is highly susceptible to the manipulations of others. She really thought she was the greatest manipulator in the world, but ultimately ended up as just another pawn in the Curious Cat's larger game. Just like how Neo was just another pawn in Cinder's larger game - at least *_twice._* Neo displayed her peak villainy in this episode, and it was glorious; I loved it! However, Neo could never operate on the level of villainy and cunning that bigger and badder villains such as Cinder Fall and the Curious Cat do. Cinder Fall was always the *_main_* villain, and the likes of Neo are just lesser villains in Cinder's schemes.
That’s y it’s the best so far
A repeat warning was bad enough. But I don't think anyone was expecting for this to be a psychological horror.
So much to unpack and theorize...
*-Episode 8 :Tea Amidst Terrible Trouble*
-RWBY quote of the chapter
_“It's not a place you go. It's a place you know.” (Curious Cat)_
-Missed Signs
The moment when the team realized their error with regards to the leader; they relied too much on her. Weiss summarized it well enough, that even though they had good intentions, it did have a negative effect on her as well. Yang's reaction, at first seemed less sympathetic than the others, as Blake and Weiss had somewhat of an understanding of what she could be feeling. But it is more likely that Yang regards Ruby in a much higher standard than even herself. After Beacon fell, Yang had a time where she just wanted to give up, whereas Ruby continued on. That likely left Yang with the impression that Ruby was a much stronger person than she was and she could deal with problems better than she could. But everyone has their limits.
And Ruby has apparently reached hers...
-Shattered
The scene with Ruby walking away reminds me of the scene of the many reincarnations of Ozma, how there were times where the burden was too much for him and he would give up, only to later on continue his mission. Except Ruby doesn't have the blessing/curse of rebirth (that we know of) after. She always did worry about letting people down.
Regarding the fight itself, one or two things comes to mind. One is that, interestingly enough, even though she didn't take Crescent Rose in the previous chapter, on this one, she had it and used it without difficulty. A instinctual reaction, perhaps? A small sign that even though she is consciously unsure of who she is, subconsciously, she will always be a Huntress.
Second is regards to her opponents. Although it made sense for many of the characters to be there, for Neo's psychological attack to be effective, less so much with regards to Lionheart and Clover. Neither of them were killed or even had no connection for Ruby to even feel guilty or responsible due to her actions (aside from Clover being one of her teachers in Atlas maybe).
Nevertheless, Neo's plan worked, having familiar faces punish Ruby and forcing her to retaliate, only to use Oscar's image in place to give her a horrifying image to finish the job. And then stomping on Little (although I don't think he's dead) further broke her down further enough to give up to surrender to Neo.
-Victory?
Neo's power is more than OP. I'm not sure if much of her power is from her evolved Semblance or a side affect of the Ever After (or both), but its beyond absurd. She's is literally a walking _Reality Infinity Stone_ with her ability being more potent than Emerald's illusions. And even then, there was a limit to Emerald's ability that stressed her mentally, whereas Neo didn't show any sort of drawback (initially). The replicas she created were far too complex than the jabberwaky, so much so that they spoke, reacted, and fought exactly as their real counterparts would. That would take an insane amount of imagination and knowledge to construct, especially given that there may be one or two of the people that she never had contact with.
A possibe drawback though...
Once she completed her vengeance, she broke down herself, having nothing else to strive for and realizing that ending Ruby didn't change the fact that Roman is gone and leaving her prone for Curious to possess her. What's weird is her demeanor after. In most cases like this, after the person gets their revenge, there is a usually a moment of satisfaction, of achievement, before they realized what they've done was pointless (like a caffeine crash). But there was no such moment for Neo. The moment Ruby fell, she just...shut down. Giving the oddity of the Ever After, it may have a greater strain on those who are mentally/emotionally damaged, to those who don't know their purpose.
-Curious Intentions
It was already clear that Curious was different from the other Afterains, but his revelation shows that a great deal more. Here we find Curious' true goal, to discover why his creators left him in the Ever After, cursed with endlessly curiosity. And to get to his goal, he needed someone with a broken heart to take control over (Basically following the premise of the movie _Upgrade_ ). By all rights, you would think that he would have teamed up with Neo, but he likely learned of Neo's intentions and interfered just as Ruby reached past the breaking point. But after Ruby was gone, he found another host in Neo (creating nightmare fuel in the process).
-The Tree
Obviously, reaching the tree in the focus of this volume, with so many questions and thoughts about it. What is it's true purpose? Death? Ascension? A rebirth or metamorphosis of some kind (the random butterflies is indicated of something) A portal out of there? The only thing that can be said honestly is that the Afterains don't fear it, but rather welcome it. If there is anything true about what Curious said, it may effect the people of Remnant differently. Particularly in Ruby's case, as now the tree seemed to wither and grow dark after she fell into the void (likely the roots). Neo certainly believed that brewing a tea from leaves would be the end of Ruby (How Neo learned that is another question). Could that be what happened to Louis? And what did Curious meant by the above words?
So many questions...
A random thought... What if in order to save Ruby from or for her metamorphosis, an exchange of time is needed. Jaune would give two years to Ruby, reverting him back to his younger self and aging Ruby two years (making her the same age as the rest of her team).
Moral of the story never get on neo shit list
An empty cup, an empty mind, and an empty hole for those left behind...
Credit the author of that please.🧐
💜😈
@@danieldamrick2330 Me
It’s Beautiful.
Almost a Haiku
The way the mosaic in the opening forshadowed the neo stuff with the cat omg
Probably reading too much into this, but the Tree's leaves seem to have 3 primary colours: yellow and purple that remind me of the Brothers, and green.
Yes. Yes it was.
Anyone ever wonder where the other people cinder knocked off the platform last volume ended up in the ever after?
the civilians she exploded off the platform didn't have an aura, so they probably died from the explosion
@GraveDigger35 but you can hear some of them scream as they fall, plus what about the ones on the edge that weren't quite in the fire?
@@braydenculp3688 If i'm not mistaken RT confirmed that all civilians died there
@Nikita Elizariev ah okie thank you for telling me, I hadn't heard that👍
Many of them burnt up in Cinder's flames during the descent. In Ruby's flashback of Cinder during Volume 9, Chapter 7, we see several bodies of those she had killed fall while consumed in balls of fire behind her. There were, of course, also bodies that fell that weren't on fire, but the Ever After is so weird and unknown that the corpses that survived being burnt to ash by Cinder simply fell to a random part of the realm and were never seen again. Or they could have disappeared another way, since all manner of things are possible inside the Ever After.
I think we are all traumatized now.
Brilliant really, I was looking forwards to that 🥺
I feel like Neo’s gonna have a redemption arc at the end of this, but I will NEVER forgive her for what she did to Little
Redemption arc isn't needed. Acknowledgement that she was a traumatized young woman who shed be given her own choice of what her end is gonna be , yea
What ⁉️ Wasn’t that one of Neo’s clones?
Oh bother.💜😈
I love that picture of Cinder and Neo at the throne. Could this be foreshadowing future events? 🔥⚡😈⚡🔥
Up until this episode, curious the cat’s voice and Speech Patterns reminded me of Roddy McDowall.💜😈
Well, to simply put it, Ruby drank "the Kool-aide"
I loved the whole spectacle that Neo gave us, a little upset that the cat got control of her and i hope eventually he will let go of her so we can see more of Neo. Gonna be really upset if they eventually kill her
Suicial tea goes brrr
I cried watching this ep 😢😭🥺
The Dead Tea Party is the most nightmare fuel I’ve seen in this saga.
Roman have 2 voice actors becouse Billy he passed before he finish
Ojo de pajar: ho vamos maldito gato 11:06
its a lot worse than Neo being more powerful . that cat now has a human body and is heading for the tree . there's only one reason it would do that . to try and leave the ever after . and it reaches reminant ? if it reaches Salem ? If It offers her its services ? 😱 the enemy of my enemy
The cat was sus
Why is it that the two brothers want Salem to learn the importance of death when they had created the Ever After without death but rather Ascension
She really did just looked at her friends and family and did it anyway
Yes, neo and Roman are adorable, but Neo is savage this episode
Neo still love her ❤❤❤
On one hand (no spoilers please), I have a feeling the Tree won’t hurt Ruby, and we know Afterans get a new purpose after they die, so Little may become more of a warrior in their next reincarnation. Perhaps I’m just trying to cope with the absolute horror this episode was.😭 Either way, I hope Neo suffers and gets her karma…🔥😡☠️
I hope Little will become a better guide.
for the algorithm boost
I’m sorry if this bothers you but, can you let us know if you’ll continue Owl house?
"Darkest Chapter Yet" an entire continent was destroyed last season
i can only hope it is causing Neo incredible pain having that cat posses her
I couldn't watch the whole thing again...
This episode also just solidified how unredeemable Neo is.
If the reincarnation thing works for them, I just Little comes back soon!😭 And yeah, Neo’s far beyond the point of forgiveness, even before what she did this episode!🔥😡☠️
I wished neo vs curious cat lasted longer
It was never a fight. Neo was too weak and broken to put up any resistance to the Cat. But if you're referring to before Ruby drank the Tree tea, I'm not sure that fight would have had much purpose.
@@TheGreater-ScopeVillain too me it wasn't about the purpose of the fight more about how cool a full fight between neo and curious cat would be, because we haven't really seen curious cat fight, we've seen him do attacks but not a full out fight
Bro i find it WACK that the cat had more of a reaction to Ruby's "death" than her whole fucking team did
This is Bojack levels of emotionally crippling fantasy sequence. Poor Ruby.
Damn it's nice to see Pyrrha again but wtf
Well i’m early
Nice reaction girls