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- Three former executives at HS2 have spoken to Sky News to criticise the financial management of the project.
They include two whistleblowers who say they had previously identified problems to the company and now feel vindicated by an official report which criticised the spiralling costs of the project.
The government is expected to make a decision on whether or not to formally press ahead with HS2.
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Someone has been cashing in
Someone's always cashing in.
Anon Anon true
It's yet another giant "milk run" scam
Tories for 10 years.
Three men of real integrity shown there. Something for all of us to aspire to.
'Lack of integrity' is where the money is, and is all that's necessary to climb the political ladder, anywhere.
Preventing all new public investment is "something for all of us to aspire to"?
@@3506Dodge If it's honestly-costed and -managed public investment, producing something that is genuinely useful to the public who are paying for it, that's fine with me, but I don't want my taxes being laundered away into the pockets of the wealthy by corrupt politicians.
@@None-zc5vg this is a private company that is making HS2 not the government these are not politicians they are nothing to go with the government they are hired to do a job and they made a scam to say the cost would be less then they would be to get the approval to build
@@helloitsme1785 It's commonplace that government-initiated projects often go well over budget, but there's never anything done to stop the runaway costs being dumped on the taxpayer. The "unforeseen factors" that always bump-up the spending should have been allowed-for from Day One, preventing unrealistically-low bidding.
meanwhile china builds a 1000 bed hospital in 6 days.
🤣
That’s because the Chinese pay people well below market value compensation when they push people of land. The UK naturally pays people what the land is worth. But yes the uk infrastructure construction system is very inefficient.
I worked in China and there rail system puts us to shame. They recently built the largest airport with eight runways for 12 billion, we can’t even add a runway and extension to heathrow for that amount. China is not perfect with human rights but they have a can do attitude and strong work ethic and national pride, something we simply don’t have since the 60s.
@@AWhileHanlin China has 10 times more money than the uk
Not gonna lie, im not chinese and i like uk but uk will probably took years just to patch up a hole in the road while chinese and japanese will get it done quickly
Imagine not being able to build a train line in a first world country
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the whole point not to. Piss taxpayer money up the wall pay it to their buddies, no one faces jail time when the project is cancelled then blame it on the EU.
imagine not being able to build a trainline in the birthplace of the railways
Imagine using the train lines
Ch1nmus1c 1 imagine being a Tory
Visit the US, we cannot build a train that exceeds 55mph or stays on the tracks.
And zero people will do prison time for this. Guaranteed.
These trains are already out dated what a joke and a waste of money.
Twice the speed of the current ones - still a much needed improvement.
Nope. And it's about freeing capacity to reduce gaps between trains on existing main lines.
the trains are fine, the eurostar E300 is still a nice train
That old Chestnut
Some of our MPS are large HS2 stakeholders. Parliament was missled? By parliamentarians..
Corruption is not punished. In China they are shot or hanged.
@@clemalford9768 But the "top people" in China are said to be utterly corrupt, anyway, and hanging/shooting the lesser-fry just means more spoils for the leadership while kidding the masses that they're being honestly governed.
@@None-zc5vg I read that recently there had been a big purge of corrupt top Chinese Communist Party officials. The population were getting pissed off and the natives were becoming restless. In the UK they get knighthoods and all those other bollocks awards for making money any which way, do some 'charity' work to look 'respectable' unless they do really outrageous gangster stuff. Look at Lord Archer. He ended up in a holiday camp, an open prison, for his finagling and wrote a book about it and made more money from it!!
Just so everyone knows:
Not all of us UK citizens are like this, promise.
Like what
@@jamelz dumb
@@user-hp8mr9wk4t Tell that to the Americans
this is what in Spain is described a 'CHORIZOS' 😂😂
Yes they are, sheep that do as they're told.
Some land owners are millionaires now !
And surely somehow related to the top management of HS2!
The Government must not pass this project as things stand. There are too many unanswered questions
@I'LL BE BACK ! Wtf
@I'LL BE BACK ! what
We as a country are years behind every country in rail travel we need this just get it done
How many trainlines has China built since all this started?
£5 billion to shave 45 minutes off a travel time. No wonder the EU let us go without a fight.
Any other country they'd be able to do this at 60% less than what we're paying. What a waste of money
It would be interesting to see who bought land, on the proposed hs2 route, during the projects build up.
This guy should be held as a hero to the British taxpayers! Instead, he was rewarded by being sacked from HS2. They should be held accountable for misleading and lying, but they probably won't . . .
Ok. So the land has cost more than expected. 4.8 billion estimated. This is relatively small compared to the estimated 50 billion this would cost, So how has this estimate actually got to 106billion? HOW.
Corruption
Dan Chang..ask Bidden and his son who worked on the board of this company...
@@eldorado1244 This is not America
Mismanagement and lies
@@michaelrch Its just ridiculous, what geniuses come up with these ideas. The Japanese had no trouble with this and yet our trains wont even be as fast as theirs. Scrap it and build onto existing structures.
Waste of time and money. Would be better to invest in the run down lines we already have.
Disagree! We are still using Victorian railways FFS! Time to upgrade the rail network to bring UK into the 21st century.
@@octowuss1888 Thats what I said. Lol
HS2 moves non-stopping services away from existing main lines (ECML, WCML, MML, CML), meaning trains can run much closer together in some areas and the knock on effects of delays will be far less. Upgrading current infrastructure would be far more expensive and destructive and not as worthwhile.
@@sublivion5024 No chance. I'm a train driver. It doesn't work like that at all. Don't believe the hype.
That would have benefited the country, This Gov doesn't do stuff like that.
I love how only England will benefit from this track yet all 4 member countries of the UK will have to pay for it. Once again Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland left out by Westminster.
Craig Lawson only London will benefit, phase 2 won’t happen. This is just another London centric project, allowing cheaper labour to travel to London.
Chris people in Manchester will also benefit as they don’t have to buy the incredibly expensive houses in London to work there anymore
Craig Lawson dont cry okay. Those countries are a waste and wouldn’t survive without england
@@smashb3766
Yeah, that's why they're not at all desperate to keep the Union together post Brexit lol
London and the southeast are the only 2 regions with a net positive tax balance. Wales, scotland and ireland dont even pay for themselves, let alone subsidise England
This should’ve been done 40 - 50 years ago when it was proposed instead of selling it to the Italians for a bargain then having to pay a huge cost in the future
These same tossers can't run the existing rail network but somehow HS2 will be different. What a waste of everything involved in this insane scheme.
Ken Mackenzie In fairness, HS2 will be vastly more superior than the normal network. We are at major disadvantage as the mainland Europe railways were all destroyed in ww1 and ww2, so they had chance to rebuild their railways and could make them straight as possible to allow higher speeds. Ours still dates back to Victorian era. It gets patched up now and again but will take a long time to get on the same level of efficiency and passages satisfaction as say France or Germany.
It's not about HS2 being superior. The biggest benefit of HS2 is it's impact on freeing capacity on other main line. Currently, there are huge gaps between services on the ECML, WCML, MML, and the CML because the tracks are shared between slow, fast, stopping, and non-stopping trains. By moving the non-stopping services to HS2, some areas could receive up to 3x more capacity. To add to that existing infrastructure was originally built and designed nearly 200 years ago.
Sublivion Yeah of course man. We 100% need to free the existing mainlines as there heavily congested. I visited my brother in Scotland recently, the train to Scotland was delayed by 30 mins and the train back was delayed by 20 mins. It was also heavily overcrowded with the buffet car and disabled full of people. Hopefully HS2 will fix this.
Sublivion Also the Uk in general needs to get to a point where all lines are either 3rd rail or overhead powered. This is should be prioritised from an environmental stand point.
@@eddiereece1827 we have just ordered a lot of trains that can run on both overhead wires and tdiesel generators so the electrified parts of the network will be utilised more
SUPRISE SUPRISE once again big government projects are extremly expensive and wasteful and insufficent.
expect hs2 isn't the government but a contractor.
Agreed!, I smell brown envelopes ( Back Handers) all round this!
@@samuelthornton9179 Yes but the contractors were hired by the Government so it is a government project.
@@keepingthingsnaunced9954 but it's HS2 that is lieing not the government.
Millenium point comes to mind of another waste of money
Trains in this country are pathetic. Lets try and get this right please 🇬🇧
Jake Walker people who use the Union Jack at this point really infuriate me
@@ch1nmus1c16 why my good friend? 🇬🇧
WORST KEPT SECRET. UK has been corrupt for decades.
Wembley
Carillion
Libor banks
HSBC money laundering
Cooperative bank
NHS
National lottery
HS2
Crossrail
and many more
It’s not ineptness or uninformedness, it’s corruption.
We are paid minimal wage to work in unsafe environments at hs2 so the money has never trickled down to us. Only the abuse. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Why didn't the Government go with HSUK, as apposed to HS2? HSUK is a far better plan and was using existing redundant tracks, connecting and reopening old rail lines up which includes the Skipton to Colne rail line promoted by SELRAP, cost are at least 23bln cheaper! Why the need for a totally brand new rail line?
From what I understand the Government was sold a lie, it's not even connected to the channel tunnel which is what the original plan was, just pathetic not to connect the whole country up to the channel tunnel.
Don't know how long this has been happening, but nothing has changed for so long, all I've seen is builders everywhere with HS2 for over a year and nothing change at all 😂😂😂😂 so much money and nothing?
I went past Euston the other day. The whole area is in disarray and building sites.
It would appear that it will end up just being another shopping mall and hotels leading down to a couple of more platforms. That part is total bullshit works for some rich speculators.
Build a whole new Trainline ? Meanwhile I can’t even get a seat on the ones we do have ? Investing in the wrong things
Why can't Britain make modern infrastructure anymore? How did britain lose its way?
There's no pride in country anymore, it's all a free for all and lots of greed.
Just ditch the link between Birmingham and London, it will be cheaper, quicker and for once we can have an infrastructure project that does not disproportionately benefit London!
When 1 in 7 people live in one city of a country, most infrastructure projects will directly benefit those people, i dont live in london but loads of infrastructure is happening outside the M25; A14, A19, M6, Jct 6 M42, to name a few
If it benefits London it benefits the UK. London on estimate contributes 22% of the UK's GDP, and is one of the most important business cities, if not the most.
I think your missing the point, more people live outside of London, and most of the UKs GDP comes from outside of London, so is it not best to invest outside of London for once?
@Marcus Summers according to the BBC its 22%, London gets almost 50% of all infrastructure investment, but only produces 22% of the UKs income 😑 the other 78% of the country's economy gets to SHARE the other 50%
HS2 will actually relieve train pressure right across England and Wales. I'm not for the project due to the cost but it has massive additional benefits in terms of timetabling etc that everyone should look into.
rip kobe
How many directors, managers on managers are there costing big money, lying all the way.
How much have UK taxpayers spent on the London underground?
nothing from the looks of it still outdated, signal failures too many leaves on the track nonsense
So why has he waited until now to blow the whistle!!!
Leaving the EU should probably sort that also.
Send them to prison and sack the idea off!
About as surprising as finding out water is wet.
In Holland we have got the Fyra. It is now a synonym for failure.
We missed the opportunity. This technology is antiquated and work has changed thanks to covid. Remote working makes requirement for extra capacity redundant
I think the original figure of around 50bn was acceptable. The original Shinkansen in Japan cost about the same price when adjusted for inflation and has around the same length and provides a similar upgrade. The recent increases in cost to double that and mismanagement of the project are totally unacceptable.
0:08 did anyone see that dog running faster than the Flash? Lol
I still dont get why they need to clear such a big area around the line. It's not like that in other countries?
Scrap this massive waste of money. All the hs2 contractors and people up the hierarchy have been lining their own pockets
The same story as with Brexit, people lied and mismanaged the whole project...
And like Brexit, the lefty Remoaners will be defeated and the project will succeed!
stop HS2
Why is it we are so shambolic at establishing our own large infrastructures?
Wow, awesome look of that HSR, I would get one of those for sure if I own a train company.
HS2 is something that simply must be stopped. They say it will cost billions to cancel. Well, it will cost far far more than that to actually go ahead with the project. It’s a complete and utter financial rip-off, a waste of time and will be incredibly environmentally damaging to the local environment and communities. We should be reopening the local branch-lines.
I remember a while back an article in a construction trade mag. Said that the number they were hearing off the record.., within the industry, was £ 352 billion ,for I think the whole project.
If there is any evidence of links between Any MPs and hs2 it needs to be properly investigated.
HS2 should have been built when HS1 was created. This is now old technology. The UK needs to catch up and the future is Hyper Loop.
Hyper Loop is flawed, expensive, and does not yet (and may never) exist as a viable transportation method. On the other hand, HS2 will be one of the fastest if not the fastest railways in the world. There is no need to reinvent the wheel when there is great technology that already exists, is cheap, and is being built upon slowly with new technology. As a country we rely on numerous main lines such as the WCML, ECML, MML, and the CML that could receive up to 3x more capacity by moving non stopping services to HS2.
@@sublivion5024 Hyper Loop has been working for decades in D.U.M.Bs within the US.
@@bluerainbow956 Name one successful hyperloop transportation system
@@sublivion5024 Deep Under Ground Military Bases in the US have been using them decades. Do your research.
@@bluerainbow956 that's not a successful mass transport system
No construction company takes on a project and expects it to cost their estimated total. They employ people to argue over increased costs and to find contractual places where they can skimp. Or demand more money or resource. The more money involved, the more mismanagement. Folk seem to think when they are in charge of large resources that they're owed something.
Bunch of bums running the country.
Comical judgement when the Bill for the planning and Railway build is half of what they originally thought.
It was 50 Billion, however re-thought through its now double that.
Having lived in London for 27 years, now 2 so far in Japan it’s just night and day how much better their train services are here, and much cheaper too. Seriously a 40 mile return journey costs just £10, basically the same as a daily London commute...
Birmingham to London is cheaper then that return
Aren't They going to destroy habitats?
Agreed!
My train to work is delayed almost every day, at least 75% of the time. There is no need for HS2, how about sorting our railway system that clearly needs attention?!?!?!? Classic corrupt UK.
We don't need to make it easier for northern people to make it to the south.
hs2 ltd need a government team that look over every fact and detail that report to the transport sec
I would be genuinely surprised if the (project) wasn't mismanaged.
The English asking people to lie, never.
Just end the project now before anymore money is thrown into a bottomless pit.
The pit is their back pockets and that of their friends so while there's taxpayer money to be spent into the pit it goes.
UK owes EU 39 billion £
@Paul Osc Slots And UK owes EU nations for WW1
Hs2 care more about the bats and badgers than its own employees
Waste of money, could spend that on so many better things like the NHS, homelessness, social care, fixing the roads, housing, police & service sector. The list goes on.
Cancel HS2 and invest in roads, existing rail and rural broadband. Total no brainer
I don't know who in the right mind would want to go ahead with this project. Who wants to get to London 30 mins faster? Would money not be better spent upgrading existing diesel lines to electric and increasing capactity?
Another reason why living on the continent is better. I’m off to Italy or Holland or France.
Costs of all projects always go up, whether it is defence, infrastructure, or healthcare. Why is everybody surprised HS2 went up?
I'm glad HS2 is going ahead, it has been long overdue and comes after years of neglect especially in the north of England.
It's about time we got our fair share of infrastructure investment.
All the naysayers are just pissed off the money has not been wasted in London as per usual!
Coruption
Mass over spending , and miss-management for this price we could have gone transrapid and had a better ,quieter and faster system
Estimated costs from £56 Billion upto £108 Billion. We don’t even need it, plus how long will it actually take for it to be profitable.
Martin In the governments eyes that’s acceptable 🥴
If we can't get Crossrail which is 2 years overdue it's pretty much impossible to do HS2, also how Crossrail has gone over its budget and used more money than what was expected.
Glad to see that its not just us Indians who have a problem with land acquisition when it comes to infra projects.
Wow.. are sky finally reporting truth?
Didn't the transport minister think of talking to all those heads of departments that got fired over the same thing?
Don't think anyone knows that the expense of this isn't new. It's been known for months
go on , fast!
Buying new land is tough.
I love how they casually use the word sacked here lol, I was expecting some ultraformal 'his employment was terminated'
Theres soo many people trying to stop HS2 its unreal. We have a growing population, we need more capacity on our rail network to cope with growing demand. Yes it'll cost a lot of money, but in a term of economic uncertainty, a big infrastructure project like this would be good for the country. It would create 10's of thousands of jobs, and also indirectly would sustain thousands of others. 100 years from now, when people look back at it, no one will say building it was a bad idea.
And we are having millions still working from home….
And some people want bigger government ??
This is why I'm glad I do not pay taxes!!!
It’s worse here in the US.
Follow the money and sack whoever's pockets it went to.
Corporate Crooks . Nothing more nothing less !
Program delivery strategy director ???? Nuff said....!
Clickbait.
There isn't a single scene of anyone blowing any whistle! It's sad that clickbait is still a thing.
ikr, i dont trust sky news
I worked for HSF one of the companies involved in the implementation of the project. I worked in the IT department. The management in the IT department were clowns made terrible mistakes and poor decisions. So quite frankly this report does not surprise me
Scrap it !!! ....Everything in this Country is always under quoted !!
Now let's take Crossrail for a prime example of politician's with their fingers in the pie !!
Simple human corruption.
How very surprising 🙄
Scrap it now
Let's all be honest here, no one actually wanted this, we didn't have the room to build it, and it was doomed to fail from the start anyway. Frankly the finances around this project aren't all that surprising because we all saw it coming a mile away.
The Swiss can do it fine
So 2-3 billions was "hidden" , where is the other 50 billion error in estimates?
I can’t even afford the ugliest train.. how can I afford this luxurious one...
I said it from the beginning this would be a big waste of money, too much backhanding going on etc. I wonder how many of the companies involved in this project can be linked to politicians/lords etc? How can we as a country fail so bad on something we invented 100s of years ago?
Diane abbot must of done the maths
By the time hs2 is finished the technology will be outdated. China japan Russia will have something better faster by the time we finish hs2. Its a massive sham, where is all this money going?
And now, a whistleblower exposes that A4's are still the best trains on the network because apparently 1 fat guy in the 1930's can design a better & more cost effective train than an entire company