I appreciate this. I've been recently on a philosophy binge and am captivated by the life of The Dog. Every other video says the exact same thing and it gets boring searching for new information. This is the best video I've seen so far. Plus the others are like 5-15 minutes long while all saying the same. I'm definitely subscribing.
Yes, I did think you dive into Socrates was a trip, albeit a Based one. That's why I'm all aboard the hype train for your potential 16-hour modernized version of Plato's Republic.
I still find it incredible that Alexander and Diogenes met. The dialogue between them if it's true is superb. What more of a real life example of an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object is there?
In the words of Dr E.Michael.Jones "Unprotected debate." You can no more change your God given gender than you can change the climate of this or any planet. You are not God's. God sent his son Yeshua to warn us about the wonderful terrible planet we live on that gets RESET every 12,000 years when the precession of our orbit eclipses crosses through the nucleus of our Sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator for a 1,000 years. Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Star's magnetic equator. 5 crossings loaves done and 2 fish crossings to go in this rotation of the galactic bulge until perigee. Galactic Milankovitch cycles eccentricity. We have already had the signs of Jonah Tsunami's. Lot's fire/lightning/EMP's are heating up and Noah's tidal wave floods won't be pulled out & around the planet by the new moon until the conjunction of Mercury & Venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse the Sun's nucleus separating the two energies. The Gobekli tepe stones are crying out just like Yeshua said they would.
@@parkercrumpler7659 Was coming to say this XD They forgot the BEST part of the back and forth! (To be clear, Alexander was, and always will be my hero, ever since I was young.... but like Alexander, if you didnt realize what a chad Diogenes was, you werent XD ) Also, Alexander approached him sitting in the sun once allegedly saying "Whatever you ask of me, Ill give it to you" Or some such phrasing, to which he replied "Please move out of the way of the sun" XD The fact that Alexander was man enough to appreciate and respect him for this IMHO says alot about Alexander(someone who its become incredibly classy for limp wristed dweebs we now call historians to bash on) but to be sure, Diogenes was GOATed
“If anyone wants to buy a boss, there is one available here!” In the context of that situation where Diogenes was sold as a slave, this is the most badass line that I’ve heard in my life. Diogenes was so epic that even slavery did not break him.
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Diogenes was awake! I have never before heard such profound philosophical thoughts. Easy to comprehend. I'm a fan! I believe him to be Honest, accurate, truthful. , and unbiased. He was a real Human Being! A independent thinker! I like this philosopher a great deal.
Nice coverage of Diogenes. I think he is extremely relevant to understand and interact in modern society. Excellent book on this is Critique of Cynical Reason Peter Sloterdijk. Understanding cynicism, especially in art, makes things almost comprehensible
He definitely knew he was friends with the Gods judging by his confidence. He also was pretty wise to the point of cynicism. But he displayed physical and mental discipline to the degree that he was pushed due to his circumstances under his Friend of the gods status. What intrigued me was how he knew who he should be sold to and why with one glance!
It is difficult to separate what Diogenes of Sinope actually said and did from what has been attributed to him by ancient writers. But one thing is certain: given the characteristics of his thinking, Diogenes would probably not be offended by hearing all the absurd situations in which, acting or speaking in an apparently absurd manner, he supposedly would ironically restore normalcy. Diogenes makes us laugh or think. But sometimes he makes us think and laugh. Like Socrates, Diogenes of Sinope did not try to create a system, nor did he record his thoughts in the methodical manner of Plato. Posterity did not interest him. Diogenes lived in the present moment. The act of thinking had momentary importance for him. This explains the development of a method that can be considered perforating: Diogenes perforated what for others seemed to be reality, but was nothing more than illusion or nonsense. He gained notoriety and became a famous character which can be considered quite an achievement.
Diogenes was that rare being who lived like a dog but ate like a wolf... for when it comes to food a dog is dependent on the food given to him by his master... but a wolf shows his independence and mastery in seeking his own food.
He didn't live in a wooden barrel.....he lived in a giant stone urn of the Temple of Cybele..... I've seen such temple stone urns. They're about the size of a bus shelter.
I am a high functioning Autistic who, as a child, was very precocious and intelligent so that phrase - "You have an answer for everything!" - was common in my home regarding me ... and usually was followed by a beating. Good times! Really miss it. Oh, wait, as an odd person I ... oh, who cares, eh?
@@TheLegendaryLore Hey, same treatment from people as an adult. As they say "there is no rest for the autistic." Thank you for your reply and kind words. From my pov and experience people are rubbish and life is a shit sandwich and it is always lunch time. Cheers!
The only litte thing I ask you to is to give us the opportunity to listen to audiobooks from your voice. Thanks for all your job so far and keep it up!
My hero. Trope of "looking for a human" might have been a critique of roleplaying man/woman, because that leaves us with n0 actual humans as people prioritize their secondary attributes instead of the primary one.
This is awesome. L'chaim. I'll teach you some Aramaic. It's the slang of Hebrew. Schlama means peace. Malkuth means heaven. Hubba means love. Hubba to you and yours.
I reckon Plato had a point about Diogenes being arrogant and I also disagree with a lot of his statements but I think he’s still valid to learn about etc The constant remarks about so called good looking people tends to make me think he’s a bit jealous of such as well because good looking people are aware of what he’s saying generally so it’s like spamming to my mind anyway His simpleton - I learnt from children anecdotes border on dumb and dumber skits he seems to assure himself of victory by association where as children are ever present in human societies etc The stories of eating in public being taboo is kind of eccentric people don’t normally do it because they generally have preferred eating places like dining rooms etc
The tinkering Diogenes and his father did was actually pretty common back in those days; what they would do is just peel the outer layers of the coin's edge and then forge new coins with all the peelings, the coin would seem exactly the same depending on craftmanship and you would create new counterfeited coins.
Ever since I came across socrates, I was hooked. I LOVE philosophy videos done right and how you go about it is so well done. For that I subscribed to you.👍 Love to see more in the future!
Try reading the New Testament,Covenant,Commandment but it will only make sense to those ho have ears to hear. You can no more change your God given gender than you can change the climate of this or any planet. You are not God's. God sent his son Yeshua to warn us about the wonderful terrible planet we live on that gets RESET every 12,000 years when the precession of our orbit eclipses crosses through the nucleus of our Sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator for a 1,000 years. Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Star's magnetic equator. 5 crossings loaves done and 2 fish crossings to go in this rotation of the galactic bulge until perigee. Galactic Milankovitch cycles eccentricity. We have already had the signs of Jonah Tsunami's. Lot's fire/lightning/EMP's are heating up and Noah's tidal wave floods won't be pulled out & around the planet by the new moon until the conjunction of Mercury & Venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse the Sun's nucleus separating the two energies. The Gobekli tepe stones are crying out just like Yeshua said they would.
I like Plato and I like Diogenes, I like Euclid, I like socrate, I like Heraclitus, but truly… a man that doesn’t care would only speak when he knows he is right but more importantly knows he could be wrong
Alexander the Great asked Diogenes why he was looking around on the ground after Alexander's father, King Philip II had died. "I'm looking for the bones of your father, but I can't distinguish them from the bones of slaves." Alexander laughed.
I remember doing history when I was in School as a Greek student in the 80s he was my favourite philosopher. I kept these Greek books and even today in Greek it still is funny reading his statements. Perhaps most is lost in translation and the meanings for the application of the moment. ❤
Nice work but some things was lost in translation from Greek in English or they have change some words and meaning for some reason....yeah in general a little bit bad translation....anyway good work!
Zizek would have us belive that everyone today is a cynic. While there may be a general cynicism within the zeitgeist, none are as pure as the cynicism of Diogenes. His lived cynicism is an example to us all that societies are a socail construct of contradictions to our deeper understanding of value, worth, and being. Diogenes is easy to like because he reminds us that were are all just hairless apes parncing around in bejewelled garments as if the clothes make the man out of the ape.
0 it seems to me I have all these sayings and quips and all this stuff that there doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence that he said any o that he said any of this some of it part of it or anyting else I own friend left a like laughed to myself when ancient poems are ancient poems I am from ancient Greece in ancient Greek language is a transposed store transcribe to English and then all of a sudden the English everything as they rhyming actor buttes of a poem how could those words in ancient Greek or in any different language translate so exactly to Bowman English for everything rhymes doesn't make sense I myself spend in 1988 I spent several months and greet in Greece going around the islands all over the place I have a great love for ancient ancient things ancient history so it's not like I'm a negative guy when it comes to these type of things I've listened since I've gone blind too many books on the correct go Persian was and all these other different things of history andso I do have a great love for this stuff but sometimes it's just fun to listen to like a stuck that's stuck this video out even though I in my mind nothing for sure can be attributed to the man himself there's really no kind of way of doing that at least in this video but it was fun and I know that the sayings and stuff like that all the little witticisms and stuff are in the vein of ancient Greece okay ancient Greece and the in that respect that's kind of true but you know I always sound like an idiot to myself when I listened back the comments I make because I'm doing this with speech to text and it's kind of not the same thing as putting a pen to paper where you can sing and stop and and start again and get your thoughts down in a coherent the understandable way cuz I just have to like witness off the top of my head trying not to stop because there is no editing involves I can't admit when I do speech-to-text or anyting but I'm sure I got my point across and silly Bob
It’s sort of easy (relatively) to be an itinerant, possessionless wandering philosopher in balmy Greece. Anywhere further north he wouldn’t have survived his first winter, as far as I know he never discussed it but I’d like to know his opinion. Maybe it’d just be “why not walk south, what better do you have to do?” but it would still be interesting to know
Here I am 70 years old learning about Diogenes back when I was in high school teachers tried to teach it to me but I was too cool to listen to their ramblings I’m so sorry teaches you all tried very hard I just wouldn’t listen because I was critical of everything
Here you are learning, and thinking of them. So I guess they finally got through to you and did their job in the end! I'm sure that would make them happy.
I studied philosophy at Yale in the 1960s. You should hve presented this lecture there, then. Quite remarkable. They never even told me Mr. Diogenes existed but a third rate philosoteach had us read Mr. Socrates as presented by his PR man Mr. Plato. I have learned a lot from this presentation. I once knew a great intellectual who drank the Zelensky Kool-Ade but before tha he seemed wise. He said: "Shakespeare lived an ordinary live just like you. Let us pursue our work together as peers." I neer met Diogenes but I did know John Wild. I nevver liked Mr. Socrates but now I like Mr. Diogenes less then before for knowing more about him. Now let us decontruct famousmen and ur fathers who were before us! All the semiotic history of mankind of raw material for our own creative play. RRose Selavy.
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A remarkable man and a remarkable intellect…I love that he would have nothing to do with Plato’s silly abstractions. He deserves to be far better known. Video shared on my Twitter feed.
go back to watching the shadows on the wall tv, radio, papers. You can no more change your God given gender than you can change the climate of this or any planet. You are not God's. God sent his son Yeshua to warn us about the wonderful terrible planet we live on that gets RESET every 12,000 years when the precession of our orbit eclipses crosses through the nucleus of our Sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator for a 1,000 years. Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Star's magnetic equator. 5 crossings loaves done and 2 fish crossings to go in this rotation of the galactic bulge until perigee. Galactic Milankovitch cycles eccentricity. We have already had the signs of Jonah Tsunami's. Lot's fire/lightning/EMP's are heating up and Noah's tidal wave floods won't be pulled out & around the planet by the new moon until the conjunction of Mercury & Venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse the Sun's nucleus separating the two energies. The Gobekli tepe stones are crying out just like Yeshua said they would.
A cinematic stoic universe would be so valuable today. Imagine the insight, lessons, laughs and general wonder of Ancient Greece done right showing the stories of the top stoics and their relationships to one another.
"One day, when Plato was on a morning walk by the side of the sea, he saw a man. It was early in the morning, a little dark - the sun had not risen yet. He could not figure out who the man was. This man was Diogenes and in a spoon he was bringing…He would go to the ocean, take the water in the spoon - he had made a small hole in the sand - pour the water into the sand, and then go back.
Plato, standing there, saw him doing it. He looked like a madman. For a moment he thought, “I should not interfere.” But such is the mind - it becomes curious: “Maybe he is not mad; perhaps he is doing something meaningful and I am not aware of it. And what is wrong if I ask him?” So he said, “Please forgive me for interrupting. I don’t want to interrupt you - you may be involved in some great work - but what is going on?”
Diogenes said, “I am trying to empty the ocean.”
Plato said, “My God, with this teaspoon?”
And then the sun was rising and Diogenes started laughing and said, “Plato, what else are you doing?” Then Plato recognized Diogenes. He used to live naked, but that day he was covered with a cloth, just to hide himself, so Plato would not know him at first. Otherwise he might not have interrupted.
Plato was simply stunned, he could not answer. Diogenes said, “That’s what you are trying to do. Your mind is nothing but a teaspoon and with it you are trying to exhaust the oceanic existence. What I am doing is just to remind you…I know it is not possible. You should also remember that what you are doing is impossible." Diogenes is one of the most loved human beings, as far as I am concerned. As far as the world is concerned, he is one of those who are destined to be condemned for their behavior, for their ideas. And Diogenes particularly, because he is so unique. It is said of Diogenes, a man of the same caliber as Bodhidharma …. If they had met, it would have been a great meeting. Diogenes was in Greece. He lived naked; he had such a beautiful body that to hide it behind clothes would have been a crime. It is perfectly good to hide an ugly body behind clothes but a beautiful body needs to be available for anybody who wants to see the beauty, the proportion. Diogenes was one of the most beautiful men. Even when Alexander the Great met him, he felt a little embarrassed - although he was a world conqueror, compared to Diogenes he was utterly poor. I am reminded of Diogenes, a beautiful Greek philosopher, mystic - and a mystic of a rare quality. He was a contemporary of Aristotle, and he was as much against Aristotle as I am, so I have a certain friendship with Diogenes. Aristotle defined man as an animal who walks on two legs. What did Diogenes do? He caught one animal - and there are many animals who walk on two legs, but they have feathers also, they can fly also - a peacock. He took out all the feathers - because men have no feathers. Take out all the feathers of the peacock… the peacock walks on two legs. And he sent the peacock to Aristotle with the message: “Please receive the gift of a human being." I am reminded of Diogenes. I love this fellow Diogenes for the simple reason that he does not claim any authority from God. He does not give any orders and commandments and disciplines to others. He used to live naked - not for any religious reasons, not to get to heaven; he was not concerned about heaven and hell at all. He lived naked, because, he said, “That’s how I was born. Nature wants me to be this way. Why should I be otherwise? I am going to be just natural.”
Freedom is the will to be responsible to ourselves. - Nietzsche Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. - Voltaire The more powerful and original a mind, the more it will incline towards the religion of solitude. - Aldous Huxley The truly great man is he who would master no one, and who be mastered by no one. - Kahlil Gibran Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. - Oscar Wilde A master to known, a slave to one... or I have only one counsel for you - be master. Lao Tzu Your brain shall be your servant instead of your master. You will rule it instead of allowing it to rule you. - Charles E. Popplestone The Master leads by emptying people's minds and filling their cores, by weakening their ambition and toughening their resolve. He helps people lose everything they know, everything they desire, and creates confusion in those who think that they know. Practice not-doing, and everything will fall into place. - Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching - Tao Wealth is the slave of a wise man. The master of a fool. - Seneca Nothing is really work unless you would rather be doing something else. - Sir James Barrie (1860-1937) Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life. - Confucius Man is happiest when he is creating. In fact, the highest state of which man is capable lies in the creative act. - Leo Buscaglia Cities have the capability of providing something for everybody, only because, and only when, they are created by everybody. - Jane Jacobs The value of a dollar is social, as it is created by society. - Ralph Waldo Emerson Excellence always sells. - Earl Nightingale Success doesn't follow money, Money chases after success. Feeling ~ Free‽ ™ OR Freely loving LIFE for a living ?! On this point We must be clear, You are either in control of your destiny or you are not. Free or Slave‽ When words lose meaning, We lose our own will to power We lose our freedom.
I liked the way it was worded when I heard it. The way I heard it, Alexander says "I'll grant you anything you ask for." "I ask you to stand aside. You're blocking my sun." I also heard he was kind of like a vagrant; I guess you'd call it today. And when people extold the value of a hard days work he'd say "Why work?" His minimalism was an extension of his displeasure with hard work. You didn't quite get to that point. And it could be that I'm the victim of misinformation. I'm not saying that is how it is. It's just a charming aspect of his personality and maybe that's why it's that way. Maybe it's too charming to resist. But that's how I heard the story. Who knows what really happened all those hundreds of years ago?
Afaik what he really said in old greek writings was „illuminate me, or get out of my sun“ meaning, tell me something i dont already know, or stop bothering me.
A movie on this guy, done right, would be comedic, insightful, and based beyond belief.
Agree. Agree.
The father of trolls
Maybe Jim Carrey
Larry David.
Stavros Halkias
This man brought humility to the high, wisdom to the low, and laughter to the rest of us.
Wise words
still better than platos
i made similar thing in my chanel
Well said!
I appreciate this. I've been recently on a philosophy binge and am captivated by the life of The Dog. Every other video says the exact same thing and it gets boring searching for new information. This is the best video I've seen so far. Plus the others are like 5-15 minutes long while all saying the same. I'm definitely subscribing.
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Would you happen to know where I can find more translations or readings from Diogenes? Not youtube related, that is.
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Yes, I did think you dive into Socrates was a trip, albeit a Based one. That's why I'm all aboard the hype train for your potential 16-hour modernized version of Plato's Republic.
Thank you, brother That "Republic" project is on my mind constantly 😄
I still find it incredible that Alexander and Diogenes met.
The dialogue between them if it's true is superb.
What more of a real life example of an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object is there?
And the fact that Socrates and plato was his contemporary. Many legends in same era.
He had the Gorge Carlin thing.
vice versia
He was so captivating that even Alexander said "If I am not Alexander, I would be Diogenes"
Alexander probably wished he could be more content with what he had.
In the words of Dr E.Michael.Jones "Unprotected debate."
You can no more change your God given gender than you can change the climate of this or any planet. You are not God's.
God sent his son Yeshua to warn us about the wonderful terrible planet we live on that gets RESET every 12,000 years when the precession of our orbit eclipses crosses through the nucleus of our Sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator for a 1,000 years. Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Star's magnetic equator. 5 crossings loaves done and 2 fish crossings to go in this rotation of the galactic bulge until perigee. Galactic Milankovitch cycles eccentricity.
We have already had the signs of Jonah Tsunami's. Lot's fire/lightning/EMP's are heating up and Noah's tidal wave floods won't be pulled out & around the planet by the new moon until the conjunction of Mercury & Venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse the Sun's nucleus separating the two energies. The Gobekli tepe stones are crying out just like Yeshua said they would.
@@parkercrumpler7659 Was coming to say this XD They forgot the BEST part of the back and forth! (To be clear, Alexander was, and always will be my hero, ever since I was young.... but like Alexander, if you didnt realize what a chad Diogenes was, you werent XD )
Also, Alexander approached him sitting in the sun once allegedly saying "Whatever you ask of me, Ill give it to you" Or some such phrasing, to which he replied "Please move out of the way of the sun" XD
The fact that Alexander was man enough to appreciate and respect him for this IMHO says alot about Alexander(someone who its become incredibly classy for limp wristed dweebs we now call historians to bash on) but to be sure, Diogenes was GOATed
Diogenes was so captivated by being Diogenes that if he were not Diogenes He would rather be Diogenes 😂
and diogenes replied that if I was not diogenes, I would also want to be diogenes.
“If anyone wants to buy a boss, there is one available here!”
In the context of that situation where Diogenes was sold as a slave, this is the most badass line that I’ve heard in my life. Diogenes was so epic that even slavery did not break him.
Diogenes is brilliant and hilarious., i cannot believe i was not familiar with him, thank you.
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This AI really likes Mel Gibson.
This is why I love TH-cam... one can rewind, review and reflect as needed. And the love of Philosophy is truly an addiction... Great channel.
Philo Sophia!
Books are nice for that, too.
Diogenes was awake! I have never before heard such profound philosophical thoughts. Easy to comprehend. I'm a fan!
I believe him to be Honest, accurate, truthful. , and unbiased.
He was a real Human Being!
A independent thinker!
I like this philosopher a great deal.
Nice coverage of Diogenes. I think he is extremely relevant to understand and interact in modern society. Excellent book on this is Critique of Cynical Reason Peter Sloterdijk. Understanding cynicism, especially in art, makes things almost comprehensible
I have an uncle in Cyprus who must be the spiritual ancestor of Diogenes. A combination of rebellion and comedy.
Funny to think of the ancient philosophers beating the shit out of each other in the streets of Greece
Even the "nerds" were tough as nails back then
@@TheLegendaryLore Love your content man never stop!
Diogenes is akin to a Franciscan George Carlin possessing the genius to condense his hard-hitting humor into Steven Wright short bursts of wisdom/|\
He definitely knew he was friends with the Gods judging by his confidence. He also was pretty wise to the point of cynicism. But he displayed physical and mental discipline to the degree that he was pushed due to his circumstances under his Friend of the gods status.
What intrigued me was how he knew who he should be sold to and why with one glance!
I don't get the "pilot" references... What kinda pilots? And what's that about extended middle fingers?
It is difficult to separate what Diogenes of Sinope actually said and did from what has been attributed to him by ancient writers. But one thing is certain: given the characteristics of his thinking, Diogenes would probably not be offended by hearing all the absurd situations in which, acting or speaking in an apparently absurd manner, he supposedly would ironically restore normalcy. Diogenes makes us laugh or think. But sometimes he makes us think and laugh.
Like Socrates, Diogenes of Sinope did not try to create a system, nor did he record his thoughts in the methodical manner of Plato. Posterity did not interest him. Diogenes lived in the present moment. The act of thinking had momentary importance for him. This explains the development of a method that can be considered perforating: Diogenes perforated what for others seemed to be reality, but was nothing more than illusion or nonsense. He gained notoriety and became a famous character which can be considered quite an achievement.
Diogenes was that rare being who lived like a dog but ate like a wolf... for when it comes to food a dog is dependent on the food given to him by his master... but a wolf shows his independence and mastery in seeking his own food.
Dogs do not actually prefer bones to meat, it is just that no one ever gives them meat.
- Akan proverb, West Africa
Diogenes has always been one of my favorite characters from history... definitely based
He didn't live in a wooden barrel.....he lived in a giant stone urn of the Temple of Cybele..... I've seen such temple stone urns. They're about the size of a bus shelter.
Life ain't no barrel of laughs 😂 His wheel was f.. d. He ain't in the Bible either 😂
I can imagine that Diogenes was a precocious child, to whom his mother would have said "You have an answer for everything!"
Now I know why I relate to him 😄
😅@@TheLegendaryLore Me too!
I am a high functioning Autistic who, as a child, was very precocious and intelligent so that phrase - "You have an answer for everything!" - was common in my home regarding me ... and usually was followed by a beating. Good times! Really miss it. Oh, wait, as an odd person I ... oh, who cares, eh?
@@kaoskronostyche9939 I'm so sorry for how you were treated as a child, brother. No child deserves to be beaten or belittled!
@@TheLegendaryLore Hey, same treatment from people as an adult. As they say "there is no rest for the autistic." Thank you for your reply and kind words. From my pov and experience people are rubbish and life is a shit sandwich and it is always lunch time. Cheers!
Always been my favorite philosopher. Looking for one honest man. Hilarious. Great production. Thanks for that.
I've been embracing my inner Diogenes.I love his philosophical views.
The only litte thing I ask you to is to give us the opportunity to listen to audiobooks from your voice.
Thanks for all your job so far and keep it up!
He was the "George Carlin" of the ancient world.
Fun Fact: The high brow silent society that Mycroft Holmes enjoys, and Sherlock terrorizes, is called The Diogenes Club
The man and the legend. IF ONLY THIS VIDEO FED ME, I WILL WATCH MORE. PHBBBBBT.
My hero. Trope of "looking for a human" might have been a critique of roleplaying man/woman, because that leaves us with n0 actual humans as people prioritize their secondary attributes instead of the primary one.
This is awesome. L'chaim. I'll teach you some Aramaic. It's the slang of Hebrew. Schlama means peace. Malkuth means heaven. Hubba means love. Hubba to you and yours.
I reckon Plato had a point about Diogenes being arrogant and I also disagree with a lot of his statements but I think he’s still valid to learn about etc
The constant remarks about so called good looking people tends to make me think he’s a bit jealous of such as well because good looking people are aware of what he’s saying generally so it’s like spamming to my mind anyway
His simpleton - I learnt from children anecdotes border on dumb and dumber skits he seems to assure himself of victory by association where as children are ever present in human societies etc The stories of eating in public being taboo is kind of eccentric people don’t normally do it because they generally have preferred eating places like dining rooms etc
Why does anyone have trouble understanding the wisdom of this man?
He's saturated with wisdom!
The tinkering Diogenes and his father did was actually pretty common back in those days; what they would do is just peel the outer layers of the coin's edge and then forge new coins with all the peelings, the coin would seem exactly the same depending on craftmanship and you would create new counterfeited coins.
They still do it today
Called clipping and it can get you kicked out of 109 countries
@@ElimGarakSpoonHead oy vey!
@@ElimGarakSpoonHeadfor no reason at all🤷🏼♂️
Man Diogenes is so badass and cool! I just discovered him today.
I went looking for a story about my main dude, the big dog, DioG
Thank You
It’s amazing that his puns and poetry work in English and greek
Diminishing one’s wealth doesn’t make one poor it is by multiplying one’s desires. Diogenes
Ever since I came across socrates, I was hooked.
I LOVE philosophy videos done right and how you go about it is so well done.
For that I subscribed to you.👍
Love to see more in the future!
Try reading the New Testament,Covenant,Commandment but it will only make sense to those ho have ears to hear.
You can no more change your God given gender than you can change the climate of this or any planet. You are not God's.
God sent his son Yeshua to warn us about the wonderful terrible planet we live on that gets RESET every 12,000 years when the precession of our orbit eclipses crosses through the nucleus of our Sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator for a 1,000 years. Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Star's magnetic equator. 5 crossings loaves done and 2 fish crossings to go in this rotation of the galactic bulge until perigee. Galactic Milankovitch cycles eccentricity.
We have already had the signs of Jonah Tsunami's. Lot's fire/lightning/EMP's are heating up and Noah's tidal wave floods won't be pulled out & around the planet by the new moon until the conjunction of Mercury & Venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse the Sun's nucleus separating the two energies. The Gobekli tepe stones are crying out just like Yeshua said they would.
Diogenes = philosophy as street/ performance art.
Such wisdom in the message, such an A-hole in the messenger. So typical of the great Philosophers.
As obnoxious as he was, I'd have been a hard core Diogenes groupie. 😂
I just can't believe that Diogenes coined the term 'diddler' to indicate someone way too concerned with sex 😂😂😂
I like Plato and I like Diogenes, I like Euclid, I like socrate, I like Heraclitus, but truly… a man that doesn’t care would only speak when he knows he is right but more importantly knows he could be wrong
Alexander the Great asked Diogenes why he was looking around on the ground after Alexander's father, King Philip II had died. "I'm looking for the bones of your father, but I can't distinguish them from the bones of slaves." Alexander laughed.
What movie ( game-play)? was these wonderful stills from??? E
I remember doing history when I was in School as a Greek student in the 80s he was my favourite philosopher. I kept these Greek books and even today in Greek it still is funny reading his statements. Perhaps most is lost in translation and the meanings for the application of the moment. ❤
It's unbelievable how much record of his words exist today.
How did an ancient Greek write a poem for Diogenes that rhymes in English?
He was like a proto standup comedian, or internet troll. 😂
Yea but he had balls, unlike internet cucks
i love the lil beef between diogones and plato. remindz me of jim and dwight from the office. 😂
i wish they'd make a film about him. his personality is very captivating
I thought the same thing ... and Mel Gibson as Diogenes.
@@jiejie1119 I'm thinking Rade Serbedzija.
@@pointnemo369 wow, good one.
Diogenes of Sinope is the hero of my heart ❤
Nice work but some things was lost in translation from Greek in English or they have change some words and meaning for some reason....yeah in general a little bit bad translation....anyway good work!
Zizek would have us belive that everyone today is a cynic. While there may be a general cynicism within the zeitgeist, none are as pure as the cynicism of Diogenes. His lived cynicism is an example to us all that societies are a socail construct of contradictions to our deeper understanding of value, worth, and being. Diogenes is easy to like because he reminds us that were are all just hairless apes parncing around in bejewelled garments as if the clothes make the man out of the ape.
0 it seems to me I have all these sayings and quips and all this stuff that there doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence that he said any o that he said any of this some of it part of it or anyting else I own friend left a like laughed to myself when ancient poems are ancient poems I am from ancient Greece in ancient Greek language is a transposed store transcribe to English and then all of a sudden the English everything as they rhyming actor buttes of a poem how could those words in ancient Greek or in any different language translate so exactly to Bowman English for everything rhymes doesn't make sense I myself spend in 1988 I spent several months and greet in Greece going around the islands all over the place I have a great love for ancient ancient things ancient history so it's not like I'm a negative guy when it comes to these type of things I've listened since I've gone blind too many books on the correct go Persian was and all these other different things of history andso I do have a great love for this stuff but sometimes it's just fun to listen to like a stuck that's stuck this video out even though I in my mind nothing for sure can be attributed to the man himself there's really no kind of way of doing that at least in this video but it was fun and I know that the sayings and stuff like that all the little witticisms and stuff are in the vein of ancient Greece okay ancient Greece and the in that respect that's kind of true but you know I always sound like an idiot to myself when I listened back the comments I make because I'm doing this with speech to text and it's kind of not the same thing as putting a pen to paper where you can sing and stop and and start again and get your thoughts down in a coherent the understandable way cuz I just have to like witness off the top of my head trying not to stop because there is no editing involves I can't admit when I do speech-to-text or anyting but I'm sure I got my point across and silly Bob
I have multiple sclerosis and I feel like it’s forced me to go through life as Diogenes
It’s sort of easy (relatively) to be an itinerant, possessionless wandering philosopher in balmy Greece. Anywhere further north he wouldn’t have survived his first winter, as far as I know he never discussed it but I’d like to know his opinion. Maybe it’d just be “why not walk south, what better do you have to do?” but it would still be interesting to know
Here I am 70 years old learning about Diogenes back when I was in high school teachers tried to teach it to me but I was too cool to listen to their ramblings I’m so sorry teaches you all tried very hard I just wouldn’t listen because I was critical of everything
Here you are learning, and thinking of them. So I guess they finally got through to you and did their job in the end! I'm sure that would make them happy.
My kind a guy💯💪🏽❤️🔥Socrates gone wild! Love this...thank you🙏🏼
The audio seems ………odd?
The original troll, he would have a field day with Twitter
I studied philosophy at Yale in the 1960s. You should hve presented this lecture there, then. Quite remarkable. They never even told me Mr. Diogenes existed but a third rate philosoteach had us read Mr. Socrates as presented by his PR man Mr. Plato. I have learned a lot from this presentation. I once knew a great intellectual who drank the Zelensky Kool-Ade but before tha he seemed wise. He said: "Shakespeare lived an ordinary live just like you. Let us pursue our work together as peers." I neer met Diogenes but I did know John Wild. I nevver liked Mr. Socrates but now I like Mr. Diogenes less then before for knowing more about him. Now let us decontruct famousmen and ur fathers who were before us! All the semiotic history of mankind of raw material for our own creative play. RRose Selavy.
tell us about the beautiful art this piece.
you are awesome and this is an awesome channel. Are you using AI voice?
Just curious. What AI did you use to capture these images?
Most are made in Midjourney, a few in Stable Diffusion, with some editing in Gimp.
he's like ancient greek george carlin
I just realized that I'm more Diogenes than Alcibiades, but I still hold the latter in higher regard.
"Socrates gone wild" pretty sums up Diogenes 😂😂😂
"You thought I'd be a normal philosopher? KONO DIOGENES DA!"
Diogenes is my spirit animal. 😂
Boxing gloves weren't created until much later
Diogène of Sinope was the ultimate underdog.
Why is there so much repetition?
This narrator speaks too quickly 😭
Put it in half speed
15:12 Had Plato been a bit more clever he might have said "Behold, a chicken." while pointing toward Diogenes.
Where are these mel gobson pics from?! is this a movie?!
Dave Chappele is literally Diogenes
Why?
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U should do a video about seneca! I always found him and his ideas, as well as his life very captivating
Thanks for your suggestion! I've now added Seneca to the list!
So essentially, he was a generational hater? My respect 📈📈
A remarkable man and a remarkable intellect…I love that he would have nothing to do with Plato’s silly abstractions. He deserves to be far better known. Video shared on my Twitter feed.
rhx
go back to watching the shadows on the wall tv, radio, papers.
You can no more change your God given gender than you can change the climate of this or any planet. You are not God's.
God sent his son Yeshua to warn us about the wonderful terrible planet we live on that gets RESET every 12,000 years when the precession of our orbit eclipses crosses through the nucleus of our Sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator for a 1,000 years. Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Star's magnetic equator. 5 crossings loaves done and 2 fish crossings to go in this rotation of the galactic bulge until perigee. Galactic Milankovitch cycles eccentricity.
We have already had the signs of Jonah Tsunami's. Lot's fire/lightning/EMP's are heating up and Noah's tidal wave floods won't be pulled out & around the planet by the new moon until the conjunction of Mercury & Venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse the Sun's nucleus separating the two energies. The Gobekli tepe stones are crying out just like Yeshua said they would.
A cinematic stoic universe would be so valuable today. Imagine the insight, lessons, laughs and general wonder of Ancient Greece done right showing the stories of the top stoics and their relationships to one another.
A cynic universe too fir Dio G.
20:49 No, no, that is a good question, Why no one been cleaning the bathhouse?
26:04 Yes, best wine.
29:05 Mr. Kong moment.
"and I with a single sneeze can make you quiver"
He got em sick and they got a fever 🤒🤣
They had whiteboards back then????????
Originally, it was a white tablet.
I love Diogenes. He is the Chuang Tzu of Greece.
"One day, when Plato was on a morning walk by the side of the sea, he saw a man. It was early in the morning, a little dark - the sun had not risen yet. He could not figure out who the man was. This man was Diogenes and in a spoon he was bringing…He would go to the ocean, take the water in the spoon - he had made a small hole in the sand - pour the water into the sand, and then go back.
Plato, standing there, saw him doing it. He looked like a madman. For a moment he thought, “I should not interfere.” But such is the mind - it becomes curious: “Maybe he is not mad; perhaps he is doing something meaningful and I am not aware of it. And what is wrong if I ask him?” So he said, “Please forgive me for interrupting. I don’t want to interrupt you - you may be involved in some great work - but what is going on?”
Diogenes said, “I am trying to empty the ocean.”
Plato said, “My God, with this teaspoon?”
And then the sun was rising and Diogenes started laughing and said, “Plato, what else are you doing?” Then Plato recognized Diogenes. He used to live naked, but that day he was covered with a cloth, just to hide himself, so Plato would not know him at first. Otherwise he might not have interrupted.
Plato was simply stunned, he could not answer. Diogenes said, “That’s what you are trying to do. Your mind is nothing but a teaspoon and with it you are trying to exhaust the oceanic existence. What I am doing is just to remind you…I know it is not possible. You should also remember that what you are doing is impossible."
Diogenes is one of the most loved human beings, as far as I am concerned. As far as the world is concerned, he is one of those who are destined to be condemned for their behavior, for their ideas. And Diogenes particularly, because he is so unique.
It is said of Diogenes, a man of the same caliber as Bodhidharma …. If they had met, it would have been a great meeting. Diogenes was in Greece. He lived naked; he had such a beautiful body that to hide it behind clothes would have been a crime. It is perfectly good to hide an ugly body behind clothes but a beautiful body needs to be available for anybody who wants to see the beauty, the proportion. Diogenes was one of the most beautiful men. Even when Alexander the Great met him, he felt a little embarrassed - although he was a world conqueror, compared to Diogenes he was utterly poor.
I am reminded of Diogenes, a beautiful Greek philosopher, mystic - and a mystic of a rare quality. He was a contemporary of Aristotle, and he was as much against Aristotle as I am, so I have a certain friendship with Diogenes.
Aristotle defined man as an animal who walks on two legs. What did Diogenes do? He caught one animal - and there are many animals who walk on two legs, but they have feathers also, they can fly also - a peacock. He took out all the feathers - because men have no feathers. Take out all the feathers of the peacock… the peacock walks on two legs. And he sent the peacock to Aristotle with the message: “Please receive the gift of a human being."
I am reminded of Diogenes. I love this fellow Diogenes for the simple reason that he does not claim any authority from God. He does not give any orders and commandments and disciplines to others. He used to live naked - not for any religious reasons, not to get to heaven; he was not concerned about heaven and hell at all. He lived naked, because, he said, “That’s how I was born. Nature wants me to be this way. Why should I be otherwise? I am going to be just natural.”
Freedom is the will to be responsible to ourselves.
- Nietzsche
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. - Voltaire
The more powerful and original a mind,
the more it will incline towards the religion of solitude.
- Aldous Huxley
The truly great man is he who would master no one, and who be mastered by no one.
- Kahlil Gibran
Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
- Oscar Wilde
A master to known,
a slave to one...
or
I have only one counsel for you - be master.
Lao Tzu
Your brain shall be your servant instead of your master.
You will rule it instead of allowing it to rule you. - Charles E. Popplestone
The Master leads
by emptying people's minds
and filling their cores,
by weakening their ambition
and toughening their resolve.
He helps people lose everything
they know, everything they desire,
and creates confusion
in those who think that they know.
Practice not-doing,
and everything will fall into place.
- Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching - Tao
Wealth is the slave of a wise man. The master of a fool. - Seneca
Nothing is really work unless you would rather be doing something else.
- Sir James Barrie (1860-1937)
Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life. - Confucius
Man is happiest when he is creating.
In fact, the highest state of which man is capable lies in the creative act. - Leo Buscaglia
Cities have the capability of providing something for everybody, only because,
and only when, they are created by everybody.
- Jane Jacobs
The value of a dollar is social, as it is created by society. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Excellence always sells. - Earl Nightingale
Success doesn't follow money,
Money chases after success.
Feeling ~ Free‽ ™
OR
Freely loving LIFE for a living ?!
On this point We must be clear,
You are either in control of your destiny
or you are not.
Free or Slave‽
When words lose meaning,
We lose our own will to power
We lose our freedom.
Really enjoyed this, thanks a lot!
Thank you so much, brother! I'm happy you enjoyed it.
A personality who documents, never seems to become as famous or is ever there-after referenced near as much as
the resigned.
Dates?????? Time-frame??????
Bloody hell
The deep wisdom in his quick wit is razor sharp.
As a Diogenes enjoyer, the modern person he reminds me most of George Carlin. I think that says more than enough of about both men.
yeah, he's a pompous hack who thinks he's better than anybody, while lacking any substance besides his pure pretentiousness
Thank you for the great video. As a philosophy newbie, videos like these are gold! They serve as great introduction to further readings.
Intriguing the places the mind is willing to go...
His wisdom was always a smack to the kisser, sometimes drawing a little blood, cogent and often socially unappealing. What's not to love?😁
I liked the way it was worded when I heard it. The way I heard it, Alexander says "I'll grant you anything you ask for." "I ask you to stand aside. You're blocking my sun." I also heard he was kind of like a vagrant; I guess you'd call it today. And when people extold the value of a hard days work he'd say "Why work?" His minimalism was an extension of his displeasure with hard work. You didn't quite get to that point. And it could be that I'm the victim of misinformation. I'm not saying that is how it is. It's just a charming aspect of his personality and maybe that's why it's that way. Maybe it's too charming to resist. But that's how I heard the story. Who knows what really happened all those hundreds of years ago?
Afaik what he really said in old greek writings was „illuminate me, or get out of my sun“ meaning, tell me something i dont already know, or stop bothering me.
@@Diogenes_von_Sinope Makes sense.
This is one of the best channels on TH-cam -- So thankful finding you!
Keep it up my friend!
Wow, thanks brother!
There are plenty of people on skid row who love the exact same life so I do t see what the big deal is.