@@austinobst8989 Actually no, it was made by sony and it was immediatelly made from the factory they themselves made, the first 30 years of progress were very stale and just discovered it, almost no progress was made.
When I can drive 450 miles, stop and completely refuel inside of 10 minutes, and get back on the road and drive another 450 miles, THEN I'll want an electric car.
Dendrites are a problem with Lithium Ion, the liquid electrolyte allows it. Solid state batteries actually solve the dendrite problem as the dendritic growth is stopped by the solid medium.
Unfortunately, you're describing a CAPACITOR, as opposed to a BATTERY. And, likewise, any battery set up as suggested, would have the same problem of faster discharge while sitting there. Which is what they keep running into.
My friend works the national research council in Canada I met his colleague whose job it was to solely find a workaround the batteries whose patents are owned by oil companies. He said it was not a conspiracy that the oil companies owned the patents on Superior batteries.
Patents mean nothing to the Chinese. If there was a battery worth using, they would be using it. Maybe the reason oil companies are buying them is because they got tricked into thinking they were useful.
You guys have to understand that modern industries are designed to make money -- to keep you coming back to buy their products often. The battery industry works the same way. They are reluctant to release technologies for batteries that degrade too slowly or are too light. If a battery in a car or cell phone becomes unbearable in a few to several years, you have to keep buying more batteries. Light battery technology makes batteries too accessible, so they must remain heavy for the time being to justify their costs. This strategy that keeps customers paying exists in so many industries that you feel loyal to. Think of smart phones (buy every few years), ICE cars (engines die after a decade or past 100k miles), oil, pharmaceuticals (give you treatments instead of cures). The list goes on and on. The bottom line is that no one makes fortunes from selling you products that last indefinitely or only require you to buy them once or a few times.
Cooley was always my favorite car show/video host behind the old school top gear/grand tour guys. Hope we see more from you again. Especially loved your reviews.
Yes, the latest I have heard is that they are at least 10 years away. I have been following this for some time and the answer always seems to be the same. Scaling these new technologies up to industrial scale is hard. And don't forget, we have about 300M cars in the US alone.
That last sentence is the problem. We need to focus on reducing the number of cars in the world, not just replace them with a slightly less bad kind of car.
@@alexanderfreeman3406 You can feel free to move to the city and take the bus, but I have no desire to move to a large city and will keep my independence thank you.
@@jamesrobbins2708 And that mindset right there is why there truly is no hope for humanity. People like you will gladly drive themselves over the cliff rather than make even the slightest lifestyle change. How is being tethered to a car, insurance payments, and maintenance costs “independence”? I think you should spend some time in Europe or Japan, because being able to go anywhere you want without having the shell out tens of thousands of dollars is what real independence is.
@@alexanderfreeman3406 funny you mention other countries. I've been to both Japan and Europe several times and while there train system is good, it still just takes you from one crowded city to the next. Not to mention you have to get to the train station, buy tickets, check in, and the government(s) tracks your every move. Here in the good ole US of A we have vast areas in between cities and I'd much rather go there. Get up jump in my truck and leave, no hassles.. Btw I haven't had a car payment in 15 years, I do my own maintenance and yup insurance sucks. For all that though I get to go where I want, when I want! Oh it's nice to take the boat or dirt bikes with me too sometimes. I recently saw a towing video with an EV Ford Lightening and it was absolutely horrible. 89 miles was the best it could do pulling an average sized house trailer. If you want to jump on the Climate Change bandwagon go ahead, but I've done enough research to know that it's all BS being pushed by "scientists" to line their pockets, and is now being used by politicians as a way to win votes and if the WEF get's its way, a method of controlling your every move. Just like the push for digital currency. 😉
@@jamesrobbins2708 It’s amazing that former Exxon employees have been caught on camera admitting they lied about climate change but people like you still believe it’s some grand conspiracy. When even China is aiming to reduce its carbon emissions, maybe it’s time to face facts?
When Brian Cooley reports, you set everything aside and listen. I enjoyed the CNET call-in days because he could spin anyone's question into an answer with quality insight perspective.
There is a company called Kurt energy that gas 18650 cells with similar capacity as lithium ion but significant higher charge rate, they are non explosive if punctured, and can do 10000 charge cycles and stay over 85% capacity.
Just bought the Rav4 Prime. Hopefully by the time I'm ready to move on from that vehicle (6-7 years) the EV market will have improved to the point where it makes sense to go to an all electric vehicle. Not just the solid state batteries, but the charging infrastructure as well.
I don’t know about most people, but I plan on driving my good old gasoline-powered cars for the foreseeable future. It is way too expensive to get an electric car with equivalent range right now.
There's always something better and cheaper and more life enhancing........think I'll wait.........( I thought CDs were the "end-state", and "renewed" a lot of vinyl albums/cassettes ;-) ).
Love it. Lets take a tech phrase we don't understand and apply it to some other technology we equally don't understand. In the electronics industry, "Solid State" has an entirely different connotation than is implied by the way its being used in regard to these "solid substrate" batteries.
"The term "solid state" became popular in the beginning of the semiconductor era in the 1960s to distinguish this new technology based on the transistor, in which the electronic action of devices occurred in a solid state, from previous electronic equipment that used vacuum tubes, in which the electronic action occurred in a gaseous state." (Wikipedia) Pretty much the same usage of the word, obviously in different engineering contexts. One differentiates a solid from a liquid (traditional batteries), while the other differentiates a solid from a gas (vacuum tubes).
@@overthathill Yes they are marvellous, but they will never replace the massive generating stations that power the grid. What sort of battery would you need to keep Canadian motorists from freezing to death in January and February on any sort of road trip ?
@@overthathill I am almost seventy, spent most of my life in southern Manitoba (where the chinooks come from Hudson Bay, not Japan), taught electronics for a dozen years, spent some time as an auto mechanic, was a wind power skeptic long before Texans received a dose of reality, own fourteen lithium batteries to power my carpentry tools (plus seven that are dead) and I read and research to get a balance of information. Funny how difficult it is to find genuine information on how many resources are needed to produce, recycle, and dispose of all this marvellous green technology. I wonder how much green coal-fired Montana electricity Alberta still buys to fill in for all the time solar and wind installations are producing nothing. Lots of smoke and mirrors out there, but the true cost to our tax system and environment doesn't seem to matter. But I can dream, can't I ?
One thing I wish he'd touched on is the interchangeability with li-ion packs in existing vehicles. I'm on the waiting list for a Ford Lightning, and I'd be a lot more enthused about going through with it if I knew it would be fairly straightforward to switch out the li-ion for a solid state pack in 7-8 years when the original pack dies, I'm a firm believer in getting as many miles out of a vehicle as possible
So you're happy with 200 mile ranges (100 miles each way) depending on conditions? It might be an idea if they manufactured EVs from light weight materials. It makes me laugh when they talk about "range" when an EV-SUV is carting around a couple of tons of metal+ batteries, and that includes Muskwagens. Of course, using carbonfibre (which is 42% lighter than aluminium) will increase the cost of the vehicles, but as only rich folk can afford high range EVs anway, so what. EV range will not increase linearly with currently technology but parabolically, with more tech needed to increase range by ever decreasing amounts.
@@SuperNevile Its similar to the transition from horse and buggie to automobile. Some people still ride horses, but in designated horse areas. For some people, 200 mi range is fine. Over the next 50 years, gas stations will probably transition to charging stations/gas stations. Undoubtedly, battery tech will continue to improve. It might be the case that a baby born today will never know the experience of driving an internal combustion engine on a public road.
@@darylallen2485 I agree, battery tech will improve but only by so much, there is a limit as with fossil fuels. The rich will continue to drive EVs, part of the cost of Muskwagens is the use of aluminium to reduce weight/increase range. Aluminium is expensive compared with steel. The era of paying a few K for a 2nd hand "motor" will come to an end. The baby born today may have to get used to different forms of vehicle "ownership" in the future, and will certainly not be able to "fix" the car in the garage. Personal transport will be expensive for the individual "owner".
Why, do you like paying for gas? Having to get your vehicle smoged every year? Getting the oil changed every few months? Or maybe you just like a slower vehicle
@@matthewviramontes3131 the tech and infrastructure for ev's just isnt there yet. And the price of gas is a drop in the bucket compared to what id have to spend for an EV at this point
Just because your EV is good doesn't make every other EV good. That is like me saying I have been driving fueled vehicles for 49 years, they are great, go pick one up now. There are big differences between the different types of vehicles, they aren't all the same.
@@davidc2838 Many places still experience interruptions in power. Where is all the electriity coming from when 100,000,000 electric vehicles need charging?
@@3mtech If we’re talking about the US, EU or other developed countries, we have excess power / electricity ⚡️ at night due to Baseload / keeping electricity plants running and at various times during the day (when Solar is maxing out production). So charging is NOT a significant problem. More battery storage is key...and vehicles can actually help with that, since they are big batteries themselves
I think that if everything he said about the solid state battery winds up working out that way once they get the price down I could see going to one of them. Definitely don’t want to be the first one to buy in though!
6:25 ohhh recharged up to 1000 times, that may sound impressive to some. Forget about Tesla's theoretical 1 million mile battery, Chevy Bolts have already done more than 1000 cycles in production cars. Well over that. One, in particular, is an escort for large load trucks with 217,000 miles (350,000km) in Canada. That's 217,000 miles with a lot of cold weather driving and a lot of DC Fast charging, so the average is less than 200mi/charge due to cold weather and all highway miles. In that time the battery has degraded from 58.3kWh to 54.7kWh or 6.2%. Also, there's my cheapo $200 smartphone. After learning what factors lead to reduced capacity, I started charging my phone to 85% and set the charger to finish charging at 7am rather than plugging it in at night, charging it up by 11pm and leaving it at 100% all night long. After 1155 charge cycles, I still have 96% of my battery capacity. Solid-state will have to do better than that.
Advertising consumes 10%-30% of the power in the average user's mobile battery in every charge cycle. We tolerate this, which sends a message to phone manufacturers that it's okay for them to give us two thirds of what we are paying for. If we ever want electric cars to perform to our expectations, we'd better let automakers know what those expectations are.
@@5893MrWilson packaging, you can make the body of the car the Battery itself, faster charging times in minutes instead of hours/days, easy reuseability ( current battery will fill up our land fill and will destroy the planet in a year if everyone drives an EV car using current battery technology), and it has a cool name :D
@@mannyechaluce3814 battery is already structural for 4680. Charge time is around 15-20min. Redwood Materials recycles Tesla batteries and extracts 95+ percent of nickel, copper, and cobalt.
Keep in mind not everything is destined to be vaporware. Semiconductor chip EUV fabrication was in the lab for 20 years, ASML finally implemented it at the commercial scale a few years ago despite a decade of doubters. Not everything is destined to have the same fate as fusion and star citizen.
Yea black outs In California we have black outs in the summer by regular day to day life I can’t imagine all electric we are not ready maybe in 50 years
When Electric cars take off, people will probably stop owning them. If all you have to do is pay 5 dollars for an autonomous ride to work, it's there in 5 minutes. The amount of cars on the road could be drastically reduced, parkinglots could be turned into something more useful.
@@Contreras-z4e Not every place in California has blackouts. Los Angeles, because it's run my idiots, and a few places in Northern California during wildfire season. Why do people that live in these places always speak for the entire State of California? Our problems aren't all the same problems. You can go an hour outside of LA and not have any of the issues that they deal with. I lived in Los Angeles for 20 years. In northern california our only blackouts are during high wind red flag days, and they are planned.
We still don’t have the infrastructure to charge EV batteries, and there is no plan in place to build that infrastructure. We still have no good way to get rid of defective batteries. This is not a solution.
Welcome back, Cooley! Good to see you. PS - “burning Teslas”...? There were just a few incidents. Not even close to the exploding and enflaming ICE cars each year. You also failed to mention StoreDot. Another forerunner in the solid state battery space. Cheers!
The current trend in politics is to deflect things by saying "what about such and such." I didn't realize it could also be applied to vehicle technology.
Love Cooley's style. Wish he got a different writer for this one. Wow, sound bite shockers abound. Run around the yard yelling with your hands in the air. Should have been: EV's are great now, and they are only going to get better!
They are great; if money is no object for you. In fact the upfront costs of buying an EV is prohibitive for more than half the people in America. And the only way they are getting more competitive is not by making them cheaper to buy and operate, but by making fossil fuel vehicles more expensive to buy and operate. Within a few years this cycle will mean private transportation will be unaffordable for about 60% of us. Thus the rise of on demand ride share, because when more than half of us cannot afford our own vehicle/fuel/insurance, we will have no choice but to rely on "taxis." Only these taxis will be really nasty, because in a modern taxi there is a driver that can clean up puke and dog crap and etc. but in the computer driven taxis of the future there will be no cleaning up, you will just sit in greasy ripped up graffiti soiled rolling garbage dumps. Just take a ride on any inner city bus to get a picture of it. And it will be EXPENSIVE. Cheaper than buying a private vehicle, but really cost a lot. And the worst part is you cannot just think oh I need something from the market, jump in a car and go get it, you will summon a vehicle and it will arrive when it arrives. That could be hours at peak times, or when a sporting event or concert has ended. Convention in town? Just give up and walk. One day people on TH-cam are going to learn that NOTHING which is supposedly POSSIBLE is ever going to get done until it is also economical. I am early 60's and I am telling you that there will be no economical electric vehicles that you do not have to plan your life around in my lifetime. Someday maybe, but not for at least another 20 years, and by ending fossil fuel vehicles early they are condemning at least half of us to no longer being able to have private transportation. You cannot even begin to understand how this will negatively impact the economy.
@@dsdy1205 depends on how many miles you drive and what you pay for the car. of course the big savings in a electric is if you drive a lot of miles. i drove about 2,500 miles in the last year so nope.
@@victorhopper6774 Well the way Mark Walker sells it you'd think everyone only drives 2500 miles or less like you do. In which case, do seriously consider just using public transport
@@dsdy1205 i actually live in a village and the nearest store is 2 miles away and i am old. doctors are a 40 mile round trip. no public transport. their are basic formulas that can help a person figure out which is a better buy. obviously cheaper gas makes a big difference as does climate as to where the electric makes more sense. i figure 4 dollar gas or 5,000 cheaper electric will be the tipping point on gas vs electric.
Batteries have long been a huge bottleneck. I remember seeing the movie "Demolition Man" and a part in the movie where Simon Phoenix goes for the "capacitive gel" in one of the police cars with a stun baton. I remember thinking to myself how awesome it would be if "capacitive gel" existed in real life. The closest thing we are probably going to get towards completely removing batteries as a bottleneck and in a safe manner will be these new solid state batteries. I really hope I am able to experience the pinnacle of this upcoming technology within my lifetime.
I can't wait to charge my solid state battery flying car using the power from a fusion reactor before driving to the spaceport to take a holiday on the moon. XD
Yeah gotta show tesla car fires even though I don't think that was even a tesla 🙄 Good thing ice cars don't catch fire at much higher rate....oh wait they do
@@licencetoswill Ye, but a gas of tank is harder to catch fire than a battery. You can shoot at a gas tank and it will not catch fire. Batteries if they get damaged they will catch fire. And a battery fire is much harder to put down than a gas fire
I truly believe Hydrogen powered vehicles is the way of the future , not battery powered vehicles . Could we talk about this subject please . Brian you are a genius and are very interesting to listen to , I miss the car reviews . Take Care . 🇨🇦☮️🇺🇸.
The benefit of electric cars is they can tap into the pre-existing electric grid. Hydrogen powered vehicles need refinement plants. In locations like California the number of hydrogen fuel stations is highly limited and the demand for more will only increase if more people buy hydrogen cars but early adopters are stuck with limited areas (e.g. southern california; they are VERY limited in northern california). I know because I helped a friend find stations on a trek between L.A. and S.F. It was not easy and the website California uses to keep a health status of the stations is extremely limited / not real time.
There's alternatives to 'fuels', then things like closed-capture carbon cycles.. Rossi and Mills' techs are gearing up for mass-market (EM over-unity and ultra-dense hydrogen respectively), then various LENR techs from the likes of GE and NASA etc. Either way tho, you gotta question the logic that _building bombs_ is gonna solve everything..
You will also love the massive taxpayer supported subsidies of between thirty to fifty thousand dollars per car. Great innovations. I just wish we all could drive massively subsidized vehicles or enjoy lower taxes.
@@freddyfriesen The initial cost is more expensive but over time its much cheaper Wake up to a fully charged car every day, never stop at gas stations. No oil changes No oil filters No brake pads. List just kinda goes on but i guess you get the point. Just think about how expensive gas could be in 10 years that alone should motivate you to make the switch. In Europe by 2025 companies will not be allowed to sell combustion engines anymore. They know it is the future.
@420KinK The issue is extremely huge. It's enough that it will create tons of toxic waste, which is one of the biggest excuses for battery operated cars in the first place. I suggest you watch Michael Moore's "Planet of the Humans," which is currently free on Amazon Prime Video.
@420KinK "ya lithium is so bad they use it to treat depression" 🤣 OMG, you're challenged! You know the pollutants aren't the lithium, right? You really do need to watch the movie. BTW, maybe you don't know who Michael Moore is. He's a REAL greenie, not corporate-brainwashed pothead and Musk worshiper.
From bike shop to car shop, you've crafted your skills to such a high level that I'd rather listen to your voice than a Bach fugue. Thanks for the update on solid state.
It’s so great to see you back and I’ve missed your videos. I’m disappointed that you’re talking about 18650 batteries and burning teslas. You’re clearly 3 to 4 years behind current technology. I’ll watch one more of your videos hopefully they’ll be updated to current technology. Teslas new battery form will be so Inexpensive and dense enough for ice owners not to worry about range anxiety. You might want to check out Tesla’s “battery day” presentation from a few months ago..So sad that you started off this way… Hope you get better.
In the future we will be transporting ourselves to our destinations and won't need vehicles with or without batteries. You are years behind and hope that you will get up to date before you comment again. I will read one more of your comments and if it doesn't say what I want I will stop reading them.
Maybe the best approach for testing first generation solid state batteries would be to issue them in mobile phones as a special edition. If 100.000 special edition phons was sold with a prearranged full repay of the item after one year a lot could be learned from the state 😆 of the battery. The software would give additional information on usage charging etc. Main thing will be to maintain full privacy to the testers.
when it can be upscaled for production and remain stable for years of use, according to Elon musk its easier to setup a civilisation on Mars than make significantly better battery tecn then we have now.
In theory. We've got a long way to prove them out in real-world conditions, but they are much closer to proving out the million-mile battery once they hit production at the end of this year than any theoretical SS battery.
Sort of. Tesla, as well as other companies, use an artificial limiter on how much battery life you actually get to use. The reasons for this are because: A. You won't notice the battery degrading. B. Li-Ion loses lifespan when you charge it 100%. So by limiting how much you get to use, you prolong the useful life.
@@Toastmaster_5000 - and the reason you won't notice is those that can afford a new one will trade it in before it degrades and those that will be forced to by a used one are used to getting less reliable technology
Sorry? Is Tesla currently offering a production vehicle capable of offering a million miles of battery use? Are they warranting it’s performance and longevity? Or simply claiming that they have something in the design stage?
No way in hell that’ll happen in this capitalism-dominant society, where the environment is nothing but dollar signs in the eyes of billionaires and the elite.
I won't ever want an electric car because it cost more that 30% of the price of the car to fix the battery casing if it breaks because it's one solid mold. To further this disaster the hookup is exposed to the outside underneath. Also I'm a man.
Great presentation - very well explained and to the point quickly! With the current supply chain issues and looming recession, I highly doubt that all of these battery and auto manufacturers will be able to deliver on all of their lofty EV promises for the next few years. Add about 6-10 years on their timelines.
When they make an electric car that can go 1,000 miles between charges and can be charged quickly and cheaply,I’ll consider buying one. Also make it sound like a car not an electric razor.
Gas cars can’t even go 1000 miles. What’s next. Needing to be able to fly ? I haven’t visited a gas station in 8 years. I leave my house with a full car every morning.
@@Miniweet9167 if electric cars are the best thing since sliced bread then they should go farther,cheaper, and with a lot less maintenance, and at a lower cost to purchase and charge. Everyone is crying climate change when the Earth is going through a cycle it goes through every few thousand years. So don’t blame cars or cow farts just realize the fact that we can do nothing to change it.
There's a full kit for about 4k available that you can setup and build in your garage that with a wall socket and garden hose can produce 33l/min of hydrogen. Your message is a fallacy.
Solid state batteries have been "a few years away" for the past 20 years.
My Wife & I were just talking about that...heard this before
I think you're going to see them sooner than nuclear fusion though
It's the graphene of batteries
No they haven't.
How much money was invested in SS batteries for EVs in 2002?
Easily one of the best car hosts ever. No gimmicks, straight to the point, SOLID information Stated clearly.
Just has to go through fifteen facial expressions before he finishes his second sentence.
@@DungeonMetal rather that than hearing doug say quirks 15 times per minute
@@jjperceval "We get it, you learned a new word" ha ha
Lol your pun was good
feel like ive been hearing about solid state batteries since 2012, just another decade away
and how many electric cars where there on the roads in 2012 ? .. see the difference ?
Yeah, from lab to market takes a long time. Lithium batteries took more than 30 years to hit the market after they were developed in a lab.
@@austinobst8989 Actually no, it was made by sony and it was immediatelly made from the factory they themselves made, the first 30 years of progress were very stale and just discovered it, almost no progress was made.
@Jorge Adame Say that to smartphones
@@nordie2370 I have my doubts they have said the same for nuclear fusion.
Finally, a guy who can explain things in less than 10
Min. Nice job!
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When I can drive 450 miles, stop and completely refuel inside of 10 minutes, and get back on the road and drive another 450 miles, THEN I'll want an electric car.
Toyota is doing just that, prototype soon, released 2023-24
@@joebloggs1804 Ilika is their partner. They also work with McClaren
Luckily, most people don’t need to travel 900 miles on a regular basis...
@@joebloggs1804 Can't wait to see it.
An Advantage of EV with this new tech would be longevity of a vehicle. Might do 500K miles with no hassle
Dendrites are a problem with Lithium Ion, the liquid electrolyte allows it. Solid state batteries actually solve the dendrite problem as the dendritic growth is stopped by the solid medium.
THANKYOU,,,I was literally yelling at the TV with the amount of wrong this guy was babbling on about....
I've seen another one of these explainer videos making the same mistake
Unfortunately, you're describing a CAPACITOR, as opposed to a BATTERY. And, likewise, any battery set up as suggested, would have the same problem of faster discharge while sitting there.
Which is what they keep running into.
I thought that was the case. I might have to do my own low budget less graphic version 😉
@@billcichoke2534 Do solid state lithium ion batteries still have liquid electrolytes?
Glad to see you back, Captain.
He's back, everyone! 😍
Thank god, he was the only reason I had ever subscribed to CNET years ago.
@@dt4pitt Same
I was just about to comment the same, this guy is a legend!
Yea I thought his voice was familiar then I realized he was on Buzz Out Loud many years ago
@@dt4pitt I can't stand his voice. He's screaming at us lol he sounds like he's doing radio commercials in the 90s
My friend works the national research council in Canada I met his colleague whose job it was to solely find a workaround the batteries whose patents are owned by oil companies. He said it was not a conspiracy that the oil companies owned the patents on Superior batteries.
That's diabolical.
Patents mean nothing to the Chinese. If there was a battery worth using, they would be using it. Maybe the reason oil companies are buying them is because they got tricked into thinking they were useful.
You guys have to understand that modern industries are designed to make money -- to keep you coming back to buy their products often. The battery industry works the same way. They are reluctant to release technologies for batteries that degrade too slowly or are too light. If a battery in a car or cell phone becomes unbearable in a few to several years, you have to keep buying more batteries. Light battery technology makes batteries too accessible, so they must remain heavy for the time being to justify their costs.
This strategy that keeps customers paying exists in so many industries that you feel loyal to. Think of smart phones (buy every few years), ICE cars (engines die after a decade or past 100k miles), oil, pharmaceuticals (give you treatments instead of cures). The list goes on and on.
The bottom line is that no one makes fortunes from selling you products that last indefinitely or only require you to buy them once or a few times.
I haven’t heard his voice in years. It’s comforting to know old journalists are still doing good work.
Man, this guy is a great salesman! His clear articulation, perfect hand gestures, etc. are very impressive.
Okay… (oO)
He has to turn up his hearing aid and stop yelling at us.
Yes, that's certainly what he is!
Agreed! That's all I could think about when watching. Great presentation!
Oh my god, I haven't seen this guy since I was watching CNET, back in 2008-2009. Nice to see you dude.
“Check the tech”. Loved this guys reviews.
Met Brian Cooley a few years ago and he was extremely nice and really passionate about what he does.
Cooley was always my favorite car show/video host behind the old school top gear/grand tour guys. Hope we see more from you again. Especially loved your reviews.
Agreed. Used to watch his reviews on CNET all the time.
Yes, the latest I have heard is that they are at least 10 years away. I have been following this for some time and the answer always seems to be the same. Scaling these new technologies up to industrial scale is hard. And don't forget, we have about 300M cars in the US alone.
That last sentence is the problem. We need to focus on reducing the number of cars in the world, not just replace them with a slightly less bad kind of car.
@@alexanderfreeman3406 You can feel free to move to the city and take the bus, but I have no desire to move to a large city and will keep my independence thank you.
@@jamesrobbins2708 And that mindset right there is why there truly is no hope for humanity. People like you will gladly drive themselves over the cliff rather than make even the slightest lifestyle change. How is being tethered to a car, insurance payments, and maintenance costs “independence”? I think you should spend some time in Europe or Japan, because being able to go anywhere you want without having the shell out tens of thousands of dollars is what real independence is.
@@alexanderfreeman3406 funny you mention other countries. I've been to both Japan and Europe several times and while there train system is good, it still just takes you from one crowded city to the next. Not to mention you have to get to the train station, buy tickets, check in, and the government(s) tracks your every move. Here in the good ole US of A we have vast areas in between cities and I'd much rather go there. Get up jump in my truck and leave, no hassles.. Btw I haven't had a car payment in 15 years, I do my own maintenance and yup insurance sucks. For all that though I get to go where I want, when I want! Oh it's nice to take the boat or dirt bikes with me too sometimes. I recently saw a towing video with an EV Ford Lightening and it was absolutely horrible. 89 miles was the best it could do pulling an average sized house trailer. If you want to jump on the Climate Change bandwagon go ahead, but I've done enough research to know that it's all BS being pushed by "scientists" to line their pockets, and is now being used by politicians as a way to win votes and if the WEF get's its way, a method of controlling your every move. Just like the push for digital currency. 😉
@@jamesrobbins2708 It’s amazing that former Exxon employees have been caught on camera admitting they lied about climate change but people like you still believe it’s some grand conspiracy. When even China is aiming to reduce its carbon emissions, maybe it’s time to face facts?
Always a good day when we get a Cooley video.
Hey nice to see you back Coolie cheers from Sri Lanka
When Brian Cooley reports, you set everything aside and listen. I enjoyed the CNET call-in days because he could spin anyone's question into an answer with quality insight perspective.
Well said :)
We need new batteries. Another revolutionary battery like Li Ion was would be exciting.
Hopefully there less toxic waster generated by them. No country has any plans for the growing Li ion battery usage.
True 💯
Aluminum air batteries?
There is a company called Kurt energy that gas 18650 cells with similar capacity as lithium ion but significant higher charge rate, they are non explosive if punctured, and can do 10000 charge cycles and stay over 85% capacity.
@@traviszane5334 What is the chemistry of Kurt batteries?
Just bought the Rav4 Prime. Hopefully by the time I'm ready to move on from that vehicle (6-7 years) the EV market will have improved to the point where it makes sense to go to an all electric vehicle. Not just the solid state batteries, but the charging infrastructure as well.
Why so rigid? You could buy another car and simply sell it when the time is right. Selling isn't such a hassle.
Cooley is back! Back again!!! We've missed you!
I love Brian Cooley , he does an amazing job and the way he narrates.
I wish he did more car reviews like back in the day. His voice reminds me of the guy who voiced the "Americas most wanted police chase" show on TV
He has an incredibly irritating American manner and voice.
The title should be "By the time solid-state batteries arrive, you'll already own an electric car."
or dead...
I don’t know about most people, but I plan on driving my good old gasoline-powered cars for the foreseeable future. It is way too expensive to get an electric car with equivalent range right now.
gfl, theres like 10billions gas cars, good luck getting rid of those
There's always something better and cheaper and more life enhancing........think I'll wait.........( I thought CDs were the "end-state", and "renewed" a lot of vinyl albums/cassettes ;-) ).
I'll never own a electrical car unless I'm forced to
Solid-state batteries are the wave of the future--and they always will be.
Love it. Lets take a tech phrase we don't understand and apply it to some other technology we equally don't understand. In the electronics industry, "Solid State" has an entirely different connotation than is implied by the way its being used in regard to these "solid substrate" batteries.
"The term "solid state" became popular in the beginning of the semiconductor era in the 1960s to distinguish this new technology based on the transistor, in which the electronic action of devices occurred in a solid state, from previous electronic equipment that used vacuum tubes, in which the electronic action occurred in a gaseous state." (Wikipedia)
Pretty much the same usage of the word, obviously in different engineering contexts. One differentiates a solid from a liquid (traditional batteries), while the other differentiates a solid from a gas (vacuum tubes).
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Dont say these things. Michiu Kaku will be expounding on it as though its scientific fact tomortow.
so they should just add the R and forget about it
You are a truly great speaker. Thanks for making this informative and entertaining video.
So incredibly clear and concise
I was like I recognize this guys voice. Never seen him before. But voice is memorable! Nice to put a face to the voice after all this time.
I've been hearing about revolutionary batteries for decades.
So i'll believe it when i see it.
There have been revolutions, Lithium is a revolution from years ago.
@@overthathill Yes they are marvellous, but they will never replace the massive generating stations that power the grid. What sort of battery would you need to keep Canadian motorists from freezing to death in January and February on any sort of road trip ?
^ this kid never had to deal with battery memory effect in his life, and yet he complains.
@@freddyfriesen Really? Never? Wow, your crystal ball sure has better reception than mine!
@@overthathill I am almost seventy, spent most of my life in southern Manitoba (where the chinooks come from Hudson Bay, not Japan), taught electronics for a dozen years, spent some time as an auto mechanic, was a wind power skeptic long before Texans received a dose of reality, own fourteen lithium batteries to power my carpentry tools (plus seven that are dead) and I read and research to get a balance of information. Funny how difficult it is to find genuine information on how many resources are needed to produce, recycle, and dispose of all this marvellous green technology. I wonder how much green coal-fired Montana electricity Alberta still buys to fill in for all the time solar and wind installations are producing nothing. Lots of smoke and mirrors out there, but the true cost to our tax system and environment doesn't seem to matter. But I can dream, can't I ?
One thing I wish he'd touched on is the interchangeability with li-ion packs in existing vehicles. I'm on the waiting list for a Ford Lightning, and I'd be a lot more enthused about going through with it if I knew it would be fairly straightforward to switch out the li-ion for a solid state pack in 7-8 years when the original pack dies, I'm a firm believer in getting as many miles out of a vehicle as possible
Very good point.
This guy has a great speaking voice and enunciates well. His voice is very nice to listen to.
Increase battery density by 20%, decrease the price by 25% and decrease the time it takes to charge by 30% and I’m in.
So you're happy with 200 mile ranges (100 miles each way) depending on conditions? It might be an idea if they manufactured EVs from light weight materials. It makes me laugh when they talk about "range" when an EV-SUV is carting around a couple of tons of metal+ batteries, and that includes Muskwagens. Of course, using carbonfibre (which is 42% lighter than aluminium) will increase the cost of the vehicles, but as only rich folk can afford high range EVs anway, so what. EV range will not increase linearly with currently technology but parabolically, with more tech needed to increase range by ever decreasing amounts.
@@SuperNevile Its similar to the transition from horse and buggie to automobile. Some people still ride horses, but in designated horse areas. For some people, 200 mi range is fine. Over the next 50 years, gas stations will probably transition to charging stations/gas stations. Undoubtedly, battery tech will continue to improve. It might be the case that a baby born today will never know the experience of driving an internal combustion engine on a public road.
@@darylallen2485 I agree, battery tech will improve but only by so much, there is a limit as with fossil fuels. The rich will continue to drive EVs, part of the cost of Muskwagens is the use of aluminium to reduce weight/increase range. Aluminium is expensive compared with steel. The era of paying a few K for a 2nd hand "motor" will come to an end. The baby born today may have to get used to different forms of vehicle "ownership" in the future, and will certainly not be able to "fix" the car in the garage. Personal transport will be expensive for the individual "owner".
I don't need 900 miles of range, and I don't care about faster charging. My three electric cars are great already.
If you drive to Florida from Virginia nonstop you will need the 900 mile battery.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q And if you drive back and forth 10 times nonstop you will need an 18,000 mile battery.
@@usa-ev I don’t drive that far without a break, don’t be ridiculous.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q Ah, ya got the point! Good on ya!
U dont deliver the products that keep us all alive either.
250 miles of range is pretty decent. it suits 80% of daily commuters.
No it doesn't suit me
@@jizzyjake6783 thank you captain obvious for telling me you are in the 20% of people who need more range. i needed to know that. thanks
@@danroden830 no the range is fine. I just like my vehicles loud and thirsty.
@@jizzyjake6783 so basically you're a dying breed...
@@jizzyjake6783 you can have loud car music inside
im in no rush to replace my ICE vehicles and will probably get another used one for my next purchase
Why, do you like paying for gas? Having to get your vehicle smoged every year? Getting the oil changed every few months? Or maybe you just like a slower vehicle
@@matthewviramontes3131 the tech and infrastructure for ev's just isnt there yet. And the price of gas is a drop in the bucket compared to what id have to spend for an EV at this point
Forget electric *cars*… this could finally make electric motorcycles worth buying!
I have an EV i have for years, they are great, dont listen to this dude, go pick one up now!
Just because your EV is good doesn't make every other EV good. That is like me saying I have been driving fueled vehicles for 49 years, they are great, go pick one up now. There are big differences between the different types of vehicles, they aren't all the same.
@@drwisdom1 That lacked any point...ICE vehicles are the past...look towards the future.
@@davidc2838 Many places still experience interruptions in power. Where is all the electriity coming from when 100,000,000 electric vehicles need charging?
@@3mtech If we’re talking about the US, EU or other developed countries, we have excess power / electricity ⚡️ at night due to Baseload / keeping electricity plants running and at various times during the day (when Solar is maxing out production). So charging is NOT a significant problem. More battery storage is key...and vehicles can actually help with that, since they are big batteries themselves
@@davidc2838 There are 1500 per shift at my last job. What if 100 have EV. Who is supplying electricity and how?
I think that if everything he said about the solid state battery winds up working out that way once they get the price down I could see going to one of them. Definitely don’t want to be the first one to buy in though!
6:25 ohhh recharged up to 1000 times, that may sound impressive to some. Forget about Tesla's theoretical 1 million mile battery, Chevy Bolts have already done more than 1000 cycles in production cars. Well over that. One, in particular, is an escort for large load trucks with 217,000 miles (350,000km) in Canada. That's 217,000 miles with a lot of cold weather driving and a lot of DC Fast charging, so the average is less than 200mi/charge due to cold weather and all highway miles. In that time the battery has degraded from 58.3kWh to 54.7kWh or 6.2%. Also, there's my cheapo $200 smartphone. After learning what factors lead to reduced capacity, I started charging my phone to 85% and set the charger to finish charging at 7am rather than plugging it in at night, charging it up by 11pm and leaving it at 100% all night long. After 1155 charge cycles, I still have 96% of my battery capacity. Solid-state will have to do better than that.
If they have greater density and less weight they could gain range over NMC and have fewer charge cycles for the same miles.
You said you set your charger, Apple has optimized battery charging but can you actually pick a specific time?
@@Brandon_388 I have an android that I just have my charger plugged into a smart outlet that I can control the timing.
Advertising consumes 10%-30% of the power in the average user's mobile battery in every charge cycle. We tolerate this, which sends a message to phone manufacturers that it's okay for them to give us two thirds of what we are paying for.
If we ever want electric cars to perform to our expectations, we'd better let automakers know what those expectations are.
I want any car. Mine was stolen a year and a half ago an I'm still scraping by. Electric cars are a luxury to me.
Get a beater.
@@SnorticusClavicus mine was a beater. I saved up for over 1 year to afford 1k for it.
@@matts9371 who would steal a beater?
@@SnorticusClavicus don't know but it's what I got for Christmas.
Lol. In about 20 years it won't matter, people won't have a choice. It'll have to be electric.
Cooooooooooooooooooleyyyyyy!
The TH-cam is safe now.
I can't hold my breath. This has been in the lab for 20 years.
Mercedes is already selling buses with solid state batteries. It has left the lab
@@seasong7655 what advantage do solid state batteries have over 4680 batteries?
@@5893MrWilson packaging, you can make the body of the car the Battery itself, faster charging times in minutes instead of hours/days, easy reuseability ( current battery will fill up our land fill and will destroy the planet in a year if everyone drives an EV car using current battery technology), and it has a cool name :D
@@mannyechaluce3814 battery is already
structural for 4680. Charge time is around 15-20min. Redwood Materials recycles Tesla batteries and extracts 95+ percent of nickel, copper, and cobalt.
Keep in mind not everything is destined to be vaporware. Semiconductor chip EUV fabrication was in the lab for 20 years, ASML finally implemented it at the commercial scale a few years ago despite a decade of doubters. Not everything is destined to have the same fate as fusion and star citizen.
Don't forget China - CATL, BYD and maybe Huawei too. Looks like the Chinese is going all in in battery innovation too.
and let's not forget canada and peru
Batteries will take a backseat to wireless electric, think Nikolas Tesla.
China sucks
I have a lot of shares in SSB, can’t wait for it to go up, only a matter of time ..💪🏻💰💰💰💰💰
I have a plot of land for sale. It has gold on it.
CNET got ESG'd.... Such a shame too; they had so much integrity
Cooley is in the solid state.
meanwhile Scotty Kilmer: imagine 11 million electric car users plug in at night at the same time in Texas...
Yea black outs
In California we have black outs in the summer by regular day to day life
I can’t imagine all electric we are not ready maybe in 50 years
When Electric cars take off, people will probably stop owning them. If all you have to do is pay 5 dollars for an autonomous ride to work, it's there in 5 minutes. The amount of cars on the road could be drastically reduced, parkinglots could be turned into something more useful.
@@Contreras-z4e Not every place in California has blackouts. Los Angeles, because it's run my idiots, and a few places in Northern California during wildfire season. Why do people that live in these places always speak for the entire State of California? Our problems aren't all the same problems. You can go an hour outside of LA and not have any of the issues that they deal with. I lived in Los Angeles for 20 years.
In northern california our only blackouts are during high wind red flag days, and they are planned.
@420KinK Only Northern California has forest fires.
@420KinK People with Teslas have to wait for their cars to charge before they can go anywhere.
The Cooley is back the only person I really trust with reviews.
Absolutely not !! Nothing beats reciprocating engine .
We still don’t have the infrastructure to charge EV batteries, and there is no plan in place to build that infrastructure. We still have no good way to get rid of defective batteries. This is not a solution.
I feel like solid state batteries are just like "carbon nanotubes anything": always 5 to 10 years away.
Miss your old show... bring it back
Outstanding presentation of fascinating information! Thank you!!!
Clear & Concise. Even a year later.. the estimates to market still sound very reasonable. HOME RUN for presenter ;) Cheers
0 for Logic. 100% for salesmanship. The GRID won't handle it!!
this guy is an amazing speaker , you ought do more videos captain !
Welcome back, Cooley! Good to see you.
PS - “burning Teslas”...? There were just a few incidents. Not even close to the exploding and enflaming ICE cars each year. You also failed to mention StoreDot. Another forerunner in the solid state battery space. Cheers!
The current trend in politics is to deflect things by saying "what about such and such." I didn't realize it could also be applied to vehicle technology.
Per mile driven, Tesla's catch fire 18% as much as gasoline cars. So theyre statistically much safer
@@drwisdom1 awh yes, people who mix the Socratic method with what-aboutism, i would stick with your day job if you can’t see the difference.
Cue the fan boy apologists......
A Tesla charging station just burnt down a few days ago
That is one nice w124 Mercedes-Porsche 500e as a backdrop!! Classic!
Looks like a w126 to me
Love Cooley's style. Wish he got a different writer for this one. Wow, sound bite shockers abound. Run around the yard yelling with your hands in the air. Should have been: EV's are great now, and they are only going to get better!
They are great; if money is no object for you. In fact the upfront costs of buying an EV is prohibitive for more than half the people in America. And the only way they are getting more competitive is not by making them cheaper to buy and operate, but by making fossil fuel vehicles more expensive to buy and operate. Within a few years this cycle will mean private transportation will be unaffordable for about 60% of us. Thus the rise of on demand ride share, because when more than half of us cannot afford our own vehicle/fuel/insurance, we will have no choice but to rely on "taxis." Only these taxis will be really nasty, because in a modern taxi there is a driver that can clean up puke and dog crap and etc. but in the computer driven taxis of the future there will be no cleaning up, you will just sit in greasy ripped up graffiti soiled rolling garbage dumps. Just take a ride on any inner city bus to get a picture of it.
And it will be EXPENSIVE. Cheaper than buying a private vehicle, but really cost a lot. And the worst part is you cannot just think oh I need something from the market, jump in a car and go get it, you will summon a vehicle and it will arrive when it arrives. That could be hours at peak times, or when a sporting event or concert has ended. Convention in town? Just give up and walk.
One day people on TH-cam are going to learn that NOTHING which is supposedly POSSIBLE is ever going to get done until it is also economical. I am early 60's and I am telling you that there will be no economical electric vehicles that you do not have to plan your life around in my lifetime. Someday maybe, but not for at least another 20 years, and by ending fossil fuel vehicles early they are condemning at least half of us to no longer being able to have private transportation. You cannot even begin to understand how this will negatively impact the economy.
@@markwalker3499 Most of the costs of owning private transport don't lie with the initial price you know
@@dsdy1205 depends on how many miles you drive and what you pay for the car. of course the big savings in a electric is if you drive a lot of miles. i drove about 2,500 miles in the last year so nope.
@@victorhopper6774 Well the way Mark Walker sells it you'd think everyone only drives 2500 miles or less like you do. In which case, do seriously consider just using public transport
@@dsdy1205 i actually live in a village and the nearest store is 2 miles away and i am old. doctors are a 40 mile round trip. no public transport. their are basic formulas that can help a person figure out which is a better buy. obviously cheaper gas makes a big difference as does climate as to where the electric makes more sense. i figure 4 dollar gas or 5,000 cheaper electric will be the tipping point on gas vs electric.
The massive damage that lithium battery are doing to our environment way out ways it benefits.
Batteries have long been a huge bottleneck. I remember seeing the movie "Demolition Man" and a part in the movie where Simon Phoenix goes for the "capacitive gel" in one of the police cars with a stun baton. I remember thinking to myself how awesome it would be if "capacitive gel" existed in real life. The closest thing we are probably going to get towards completely removing batteries as a bottleneck and in a safe manner will be these new solid state batteries. I really hope I am able to experience the pinnacle of this upcoming technology within my lifetime.
I can't wait to charge my solid state battery flying car using the power from a fusion reactor before driving to the spaceport to take a holiday on the moon. XD
Are you going to live another 100 yrs? XD
@@strhopper1 well I haven't died yet, so 🤷♀️
And fold into a suitcase
you don't need any of that when you can use the transporter to teleport, if a fly don't get in there with you
I dunno. What’d you think of the electric car in 2008?
Never misses a chance to take a pot shot at Tesla.! Totally in the tank for all ICE manufacturers. Such a shame
Yeah gotta show tesla car fires even though I don't think that was even a tesla 🙄
Good thing ice cars don't catch fire at much higher rate....oh wait they do
Fisker were the ones to catch fire and it was because of like an all-Magnesium battery or some such.
@@TeslaRoger yup, he's overlooking that fact the ICE cars have a tank of liquid explosive in them. I'd take the battery thanks
@@TeslaRoger Elon musk just came back from a meeting in mainland China to explain why 10 Tesla car exploded last year so it is a problem
@@licencetoswill Ye, but a gas of tank is harder to catch fire than a battery. You can shoot at a gas tank and it will not catch fire. Batteries if they get damaged they will catch fire. And a battery fire is much harder to put down than a gas fire
I truly believe Hydrogen powered vehicles is the way of the future , not battery powered vehicles . Could we talk about this subject please . Brian you are a genius and are very interesting to listen to , I miss the car reviews . Take Care . 🇨🇦☮️🇺🇸.
The benefit of electric cars is they can tap into the pre-existing electric grid. Hydrogen powered vehicles need refinement plants. In locations like California the number of hydrogen fuel stations is highly limited and the demand for more will only increase if more people buy hydrogen cars but early adopters are stuck with limited areas (e.g. southern california; they are VERY limited in northern california).
I know because I helped a friend find stations on a trek between L.A. and S.F. It was not easy and the website California uses to keep a health status of the stations is extremely limited / not real time.
There's alternatives to 'fuels', then things like closed-capture carbon cycles.. Rossi and Mills' techs are gearing up for mass-market (EM over-unity and ultra-dense hydrogen respectively), then various LENR techs from the likes of GE and NASA etc. Either way tho, you gotta question the logic that _building bombs_ is gonna solve everything..
This is the first time I'm hearing of such technology. Could really be a game changer.
it's always a year away
Wow!! Very very interesting!! Can't wait to see what the future holds!!😎
When solid state batteries arrive - certainly in any volume - you'll have been driving a Tesla and loving it. Unless you're a Tesla hater, of course.
You will also love the massive taxpayer supported subsidies of between thirty to fifty thousand dollars per car. Great innovations. I just wish we all could drive massively subsidized vehicles or enjoy lower taxes.
@@freddyfriesen model $25k won't need to be subsidized to be affordable
@@freddyfriesen The initial cost is more expensive but over time its much cheaper
Wake up to a fully charged car every day, never stop at gas stations.
No oil changes
No oil filters
No brake pads.
List just kinda goes on but i guess you get the point.
Just think about how expensive gas could be in 10 years that alone should motivate you to make the switch.
In Europe by 2025 companies will not be allowed to sell combustion engines anymore.
They know it is the future.
@@freddyfriesen Goes right along with great reset, you'll own nothing and love it. Enjoy!
@@Clamen Hello huge electric bills, make these look small. Dreams over anyway.
1:30 Just one "That's what she said" moment after another.
Ugly is included at no extra cost! Welcome Back sir!!
Battery tech is the main thing preventing me from going electric with my vehicles I hope the solid state battery lives up to the potential.
This will be game changing for cell phones, waches, drones, power tools, laptops, e-bikes, e-scooters, e-surf boards, e-boats
The dendrites are a huge issue. I was watching a video with a technology that doesn't generate dendrites. It wasn't a lithium technology.
@420KinK Not necessarily.
@420KinK The issue is extremely huge. It's enough that it will create tons of toxic waste, which is one of the biggest excuses for battery operated cars in the first place. I suggest you watch Michael Moore's "Planet of the Humans," which is currently free on Amazon Prime Video.
@420KinK "ya lithium is so bad they use it to treat depression" 🤣
OMG, you're challenged! You know the pollutants aren't the lithium, right? You really do need to watch the movie. BTW, maybe you don't know who Michael Moore is. He's a REAL greenie, not corporate-brainwashed pothead and Musk worshiper.
@420KinK You probably also should read about the Dunning-Kruger effect. It's about you.
@420KinK Michael Moore is far from Republican.
From bike shop to car shop, you've crafted your skills to such a high level that I'd rather listen to your voice than a Bach fugue. Thanks for the update on solid state.
It’s so great to see you back and I’ve missed your videos. I’m disappointed that you’re talking about 18650 batteries and burning teslas. You’re clearly 3 to 4 years behind current technology. I’ll watch one more of your videos hopefully they’ll be updated to current technology. Teslas new battery form will be so Inexpensive and dense enough for ice owners not to worry about range anxiety. You might want to check out Tesla’s “battery day” presentation from a few months ago..So sad that you started off this way… Hope you get better.
In the future we will be transporting ourselves to our destinations and won't need vehicles with or without batteries. You are years behind and hope that you will get up to date before you comment again. I will read one more of your comments and if it doesn't say what I want I will stop reading them.
@@drwisdom1 lol, I want to be on what your on. What milligram of sarcasm pills are you taking?
@@sergiomessina2037 I just checked - they are 200mg tablets.
@@drwisdom1 Decrease the dosage if you want to have a real conversation. On second thought keep taking them as you are...
Really enjoyed your real view!...thx
If only there was a grid and an infrastructure to support all of this. Imagine thousands of people trying to plug in during a blizzard?
I would like to see Brian Cooley and Morgan Freeman doing a documentary together, not in competition but as complementing each other.
Yes. Also Mike Tyson.
Wow, there is a face I haven't seen in my TH-cam cue for a while. Great video Brian.
Electrochemistry has limits as defined in Nernst equations. Solid state? Imagine a lot of energy in a small capsule.... What can go wrong?
In April 2023 still waiting for solid state batteries . Waiting hmmmmmmmm
Maybe the best approach for testing first generation solid state batteries would be to issue them in mobile phones as a special edition. If 100.000 special edition phons was sold with a prearranged full repay of the item after one year a lot could be learned from the state 😆 of the battery. The software would give additional information on usage charging etc. Main thing will be to maintain full privacy to the testers.
Yeah... big When. And WHEN we get plenty of fast chargers everywhere
when it can be upscaled for production and remain stable for years of use, according to Elon musk its easier to setup a civilisation on Mars than make significantly better battery tecn then we have now.
Wont need them with 1000 mile range. They will build them anyway and then go oh well.
Tesla already has million mile life batteries 🤷🏻♂️
In theory. We've got a long way to prove them out in real-world conditions, but they are much closer to proving out the million-mile battery once they hit production at the end of this year than any theoretical SS battery.
Sort of. Tesla, as well as other companies, use an artificial limiter on how much battery life you actually get to use. The reasons for this are because:
A. You won't notice the battery degrading.
B. Li-Ion loses lifespan when you charge it 100%. So by limiting how much you get to use, you prolong the useful life.
@@Toastmaster_5000 - and the reason you won't notice is those that can afford a new one will trade it in before it degrades and those that will be forced to by a used one are used to getting less reliable technology
Yes but we can do it better and smaller
Sorry? Is Tesla currently offering a production vehicle capable of offering a million miles of battery use? Are they warranting it’s performance and longevity? Or simply claiming that they have something in the design stage?
Once we make cars that intake Carbon Dioxide from the air, and release Oxygen (like trees), then you’ll want one of those.
U going nutz mate
No way in hell that’ll happen in this capitalism-dominant society, where the environment is nothing but dollar signs in the eyes of billionaires and the elite.
@@Zacharysharkhazard i wish at some point they learned to do that while profiting. I’m okay with it
How about hydrogen cars
Perfect condensed report.
well that was ridiculously well written and presented. thank you.
Thank you for this video. I feel up to date. I own a Tesla, which I love, but look forward to future, cheaper, greater energy dense battery.
I’m
When They will deliver.???..........Many years after I've been pushing up daisies.........Paul
This is a case in which let's hope you live to be wrong lol
Brian Cooley is my copilot
sus
I won't ever want an electric car because it cost more that 30% of the price of the car to fix the battery casing if it breaks because it's one solid mold. To further this disaster the hookup is exposed to the outside underneath. Also I'm a man.
And how long to fully charge?
I would watch Toyota. They are known for QUALILTY
You failed to mention that Li-Ion battery's are alot safer than wet cells. Would you put a wet cell battery in your pocket ?
While watching your video I heard a faint voice saying "Buy now." I'm not sure where it's coming from or what it meant.
Exactly! What was the name of that Company again 😂😂😂
Hey! It's the CNET guy! Good to see him doing well 🙂
I have a strong feeling these new battery technologies well be technological bridges
Great presentation - very well explained and to the point quickly!
With the current supply chain issues and looming recession, I highly doubt that all of these battery and auto manufacturers will be able to deliver on all of their lofty EV promises for the next few years. Add about 6-10 years on their timelines.
When they make an electric car that can go 1,000 miles between charges and can be charged quickly and cheaply,I’ll consider buying one. Also make it sound like a car not an electric razor.
i am with you on this in fact i will go further an say i want a 70s car made with modern materials that would be a winner for me NO ELECTRONICS!
Gas cars can’t even go 1000 miles. What’s next. Needing to be able to fly ? I haven’t visited a gas station in 8 years. I leave my house with a full car every morning.
@@ivorjones6618 do you want candles for headlights? headlights count as electronics
@@Miniweet9167 if electric cars are the best thing since sliced bread then they should go farther,cheaper, and with a lot less maintenance, and at a lower cost to purchase and charge. Everyone is crying climate change when the Earth is going through a cycle it goes through every few thousand years. So don’t blame cars or cow farts just realize the fact that we can do nothing to change it.
When will toyota release solid state battery car it will kill their Toyota Mirai, too difficult to find hydrogen refueling station and expensive
There's a full kit for about 4k available that you can setup and build in your garage that with a wall socket and garden hose can produce 33l/min of hydrogen. Your message is a fallacy.
@@SignalChange if that's true, so many terrorists will interest for that building H-Bomb
I'll want an electric car . . . but only if our electrical grid capacity catches up. If I can't charge it, I can't drive it.
Bud I want one now, just can’t afford it