During the sexy time. That was Rick absolutely letting go of his trauma. He was so terrified and here was his soulmate making him complete again. He was centered once again. I loved this episode so much. I mean felt all that breathe taking emotion in my spine. Wow. Team #Richonne
I agree I think his former life at that moment finally became real to him and he started “feeling” again notice she had to bring him back by making him look directly at her and touching her heart
I don't think the "thank you" was sarcasm either. It was genuine, a thank you for saving her and a thank you for proving that part of the old him was still in there.
That “thank you” from her was absolutely thank you for still being you somewhere in there. It wasn’t the least sarcastic. It was tender. He threw himself between walkers and her.
14:30, yes, I noticed their flirtation/chemistry this episode too. She brought Carl back comic books and Rick a razor for his face, which is a pretty personal/intimate item to get someone. And he was not pleased when she was talking about going out as far as Macon. People who say they don't understand or see the chemistry are nuts, because fans were talking about it as early as season 3 or 4 at Comic Con.
The main ones who dont want see then together are the racists. Omg the amount of comments on youtube from groups of people who jealous of on screen relationship due to race is disturbing. I love me some Richonne. This episode epic. The writing was phenomenal. The acting those two did the rawness the in deep details of struggles both went through mentally was displayed. Both actors deserve emmys. ❤❤❤❤❤
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Poor Rick had a whole panic attack during that love scene. I loved how she comforted him with his hand on her heart. ( I think it’s a hilarious idea that he had “finished” when he shuddered. Too funny. That poor man was panicking.😂)
Danai spoke extensively on how she researched PTSD and Trauma because she didn’t want thi# to be Just Another Copulation Scene. What resulted was probably one of, if not THE most meaningful and intimate Love Scenes EVER depicted on TV. I’m surprised people couldn’t see what was happening with him, and how *she* saw and recognized what was happening to him. The way she looked at him, trying to hold his attention, and whispered “Hey…” I don’t remember ever seeing this level of *initimacy* between a couple. When she put her hand on her chest and held it there so he could feel her breathe and breathe with her. (A grounding technique.) It was some Emmy-worthy work.
Oh yeah, and another thing about Michonne that I forgot is that she had a son that died in the before times, so leaving her kids was a huge thing. So, I get why she definitely felt some kind of way when he didn't IMMEDIATELY say let's go home. I've lost a child and you've lost a child, and you can't muster up the courage to fight? Man! Lol.
The “thank you” was sincere. It wasn’t sarcastic at all. She was seriously telling him to leave, and he refused because he loves her and would never leave her. His reponse was sincere as well. I think Michonne is unsure of Rick in that moment. That may have occurred before she asked him if he still loved her. Not sure why she thought he would leave her though.
@@thatgirlwearingglasses4133Yeah! Not sure why I wrote that! 😂 This whole scene was way after she asked that, which was in the beginning of the episode!
Just finished watching your entire video. I’m glad I found you all. I really enjoy your conversation. I’ve met both Andy and Danai in person (at Walker Stalker con). She’s beautiful! I don’t think that’s how she intended to tell him about RJ. She was mad mad and just spewing anger at him. Then (as we Jamaicans would say). - she kissed her teeth (KMT) as if to say “damn it”. I also thought all the conversations were so real. Real couple conversations. That’s why she wanted to write this episode. Can’t hardly wait for next week.
I could not believe who that man was in those moments. I knew the RJ reveal was coming & still Rick was on that bullshit. They had a way out & Rick was still on that bullshit. But Michonne's "goody bag" & that Carl phone .... BINGO!!! Once you go black, you don't go back even on TV!!!🤣💙 I couldn't wait to hear you ladies breakdown on 1X04 cuz I know y'all was excited as hell!
Can we also have a 🙌🏾🙌🏾 for the song she chose to close out this episode: “Aside Happy” by Kabza De Small. It’s in the Xhosa language, which is one of the languages Danai speaks. (Aka Wakanda’s official language, BTW.) It begins: “We are happy We love each other.They tried to separate us, but they failed…”
I think the "thank you" from Michonne was genuine, but the "sorry" from Rick was sarcastic (when the walker's blood splashed on her). When they went bk to the room, she was still upset but both of them couldn't hold out any longer LMAO. These two ppl love each other so much, but 8 years is a long time to be a part. When Rick approached her slowly, it reminded me of season S7:E5 "Go Getters" when he was going on the road trip and she was still upset that Rick was willing to live under Negans thumb. In this episode Rick was feeling his way through a rough situation lol, but knowing Michonne. She loves this man way too much to not give in - especially since she hasn't felt his touch in soo long. I'm still surprised they didn't do it before the argument and then after the argument. The tension was there from the moment she found him - that is why they kissed every chance they got. It was just a way of releasing all that built up tension.
Yeah. Rick’s “sorry” was mostly, *oops. let me move away because she has a weapon*. He knew all that wasn’t necessary and that it was maybe little bit petty. They don’t fight like that. Killing walkers can be messy, but the two of them working together is usually efficient and quick.
She wasn’t saying thank you sarcastically. They weren’t in the argument when she was pinned under that light fixture. She was really vulnerable and she was being genuine.
Just starting to watch your video and I had to stop to comment that I TOTALLY FKN AGREE with what you said about Andrew Lincolns acting in this episode!! He had me SOBBING OUTLOUD!! Oh...HE DID THAT SHIT TONIGHT!!!! Lol! Lol!
I can understand why the Lady at the bottom panel thought Michonne's “Thank you” was sarcastic, but if you notice Her breathing, it's still clear that Her lungs are affected by the Chlorine gas burns and that it was said in a laboured way without as much "oomf" behind it as She intended. I'm worried about Her...🥺
This was the most intimate sex scene. And when he started to have a panic attack at the most intimate moment, and she was there with him, reminding him. Also, the Bridgerton thing? She sent them clips of scenes between people who were obviously in love even while they looked to the world like they weren’t on the same page. They did NOT watch the Bridgerton sex scenes. She sent clips of dialogue for their writing, because they needed some insight on writing Romance. And TOWL is a Love Story.
You know I was wondering about that. I closed my eyes and face for a brief second because I felt like I was intruding. Why do you think we feel like that, I’m curious. We’ve watched love scenes and it doesn’t feel intrusive ?
@@nonyenelson3898This is probably the most *intimate* lovemaking scene ever on TV because it’s *not about the Sex*. Every other time I’ve ever seen a scene like this, it’s about the Sex. After the arguing, miscommunIcation, the close call in the stairwell, they let their barriers down and reconnect. Kudos to the actors, direction, cinematography because it’s shot *very* intimately. Had it not been for the panic attack, it could’ve been just another Love Scene, yes it would be gorgeous and hot, but Danai didn’t want just that. She made it a Love Scene that wasn’t just about the Sex. It was the revelation of a Wound. Rick’s Trauma. And afterward, the revelation of Michonne’s trauma as well.
That was smart thinking when you said Thorne assigned Rick to be in charge of the fuel. He knows how much they have available abs where it’s all stored.
I don’t think Michonne was being sarcastic. She was sincerely thanking him for rescuing her. She was doubting how Rick felt about her, because he wasn’t being honest.
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He hadn’t even said Carl’s name the whole while he was at Philadelphia. He couldn’t say his name to the artist. Couldn’t remember what he looked like, because he’d started to forget *on purpose*. This was the first time he’d said it in almost *10 years*.
I think Michonne and Rick currently in/near the Oregon coast. I saw the ocean and the mountains. What an adventure!! I absolutely love your chemistry. This is my first visit. I just found you.!!!
It's unlikely the helicopter turned back around to search for them. Michonne likely yanked Rick out, over the lake, right before the helicopter flew into the building due to low visibility. They showed us, in one of the first scenes, the point of view from within the building, that the helicopter was flying very low over the lake, just before they jumped out. Jadis isn't merely "petty." She's been sexually obsessed with Rick since she met him. That obsession would drive her to go after Rick, if not to bring him back, then to take his life so he's not happy without her.
A true bottle (or in this case, a box) episode. The building was a character by reflecting their temperament and de/ reconstruction of their relationship.
I did not see that “thank you” as sarcasm. Especially because she told him she needed to hear him say he would never leave her. I think it was genuine gratitude bc she finally saw a bit of her rick. The one who makes her feel safe. Michonne didn’t mean for the RJ reveal to happen that way. I believe Danai confirmed that during her interview with Yvette Nicole brown.
The “thank you” was not sarcastic. She meant it genuinely because she would sacrifice herself for him too but also because his refusal to leave with her has caused her to feel unsure about him.
I think Rick and Michonne are absolutely getting home to their family. The preview didn’t say they weren’t going home. Michonne said that’s “ not where the story ends.” I think that means they’re going home, but won’t be satisfied to stay safe with family. They’ll feel compelled to leave home together to stop the CRM.
Just rewatching this and not sure why I didn’t comment on this before - but Michonne definitely accidentally dropped the RJ knowledge. You can tell by her annoyance at having done so when she sucks her teeth. She was upset and not really thinking! I’m pretty sure Michonne confirmed this too in an interview she did with YNB about the episode!!
I was beginning to wonder whether Mrs Clutterbuck made Andrew leave TWD in the first place. He and Danai have undeniable chemistry, even in the pre-series interviews.
@Evilene121162 SAME THING I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS, LOL!! There is NO WAY his wife can be comfortable with the ON and OFF screen chemistry between the two of them!! I know I would not be!! I have said from the beginning that his wife pulled the plug on things, but why is he back now?? My theory is that they either needed the money, or he told his wife that Danai is gay or something, lol!! No one can tell me that Andrew and Danai don't have something going on! And sadly, I have to admit, I think they are SO FKN CUTE together!! SORRY MRS. CLUTTERBUCK!!! Lol!!
@stx82 Nope! Not disrespectful at all!! Just an acknowledgment of their over-the-top believable love scenes, unlike any I have ever seen before, lol!! Ya just never know!!!
I think it’s just the culture around TWD, it seems like the lines get blurred because they are very method oriented in their approach to storytelling in how they portray and act as the characters.
Three things: I absolutely loved their arguments because they were so real. I was mortified that they got in the elevator or a crumbling building. I will not be surprised if we see them dead in the elevator if there's not another season of this show. I just find that e-car they found with all the fuel in the back seat totally suspicious. It was way too convenient. It was an excellent episode. Kudos to both Andrew and Danai.
“Thank you” was not sarcastic at all. Rick replied “You don’t ever have to say sorry to me”. He wouldn’t respond that way to sarcasm. The writing has to soften them a bit before they return time the apartment and wordlessly start becoming intimate. The writing has to set that up so no that “thank you” is not sarcasm.
I'm new here, Lori and Jesse won't survive what Richonne has been going through from S3 to now. This would break both women without a doubt🙅🏾♀️ Michonne has kept the faith in Rick and their ppl. That's why she's the Queen of the ZA🎉🎉🎉
Did you guys catch what caused Jadis come looking after the crash? When that damn building was crumbling some it fell on that damn PRB & flipped the switch on. If you look closely you can see that little green light come on after some of the ceiling fell on it. Because we know Jadis is coming. Now we know who she was running off the road in the truck.
The way she thanks him seems to be a real plane thank you. No sarcasm, no feelings, just a simple thank you for helping me. The kind of TY we see between two caracters that just met and one decide to save the other despite not knowing him/her. And I think its Michonne way to cope in that moment, cause she's grateful but at the same time not sure if she's with her Rick or the CRM Rick. What you think?
I was wondering if they "consummated" their marriage in that garage in E2, but from the looks of that "gully" scene they did not🤣. Rick needed to break down like that. I liked when Michonne broke down at that camp fire with Nat in E2. I saw freedom. somehow, in those moments.
I also will throw out, when they first got to Alexandria, Rick met Jessie? He liked her, and the look on Michonnes face was utter disappointment. But I think she always knew they would end up together. ❤
This entire show has a full of talented people. The cinemaphotography is beautiful, the film shots are interesting, the acting of course is really good, the scripts are so good, and so much more from this show that to me, oozes of filmmaking craftmanship. For me personally, I do want this show to be a limited miniseries only though with just its 6 episodes. And of course if the DVD comes out. Oh hell, it's going to be part of my DVD collection. I have to be honest. I haven't watched, fully, the TWD in years. So in a way, I didn't know much about the scar of Michonne's back for example. And I course knew about the Carl thing (never watched that episode either only heard it from many people). And I guess that is why I'm loving the show. I don't feel lost of where the characters' journeys are now in this world. No need to watch the previous shows to just get it. I just blindly just watching it and like what everyone is pretty much saying. I can feel the emotions coming out of the characters, their character journey (internal and external struggles), what the hell is the CRM doing, and yes, Jadius with the Shit hair gotta go. I little worry for Michonne during that walker fight scene (I mean I knew she wasn't going to go, but it felt like it though, the whole what if feel). And right there is how any good shows are able to pull you in. A thing I do want to note about Rick. Even though Michonne and Rick fell into the water and Rick being mostly wet for the episode, is some way of symbolism for Rick basically in the process of being reborn (you see Rick's hand only on the rocks and in a way, crawling to go up) and Rick being all dried the very last scenes of finding his old self again (with of course Michonne's help). I loved ya'lls discussions. And yes, It's time for them to have some time.
Snaps for Danai and her writing. Man, Rick and baby Carl had me in my feelings! Stay in the house Carl! 😭😭😭 Richonne is that real love. Lorie wasn't loyal! She would have run off with Shane if she didn't feel guilty for betraying Rick. The previews gave old school Walking Dead vibes. I'm over the CRM, so I hope it's a different villain.
I red on reddit something like "ok but why he's not dreaming about Lorie if he's so about family blablabla" ... Well Mister Lorie, Judith call Michonne mom, get over it. Rick even fall in love in other way with her, c'mon Mister family 😅 Seems like some are hurt bc the Rick alfa prep style white cop dude with guns at the beggening of TWD has changed and found the love of his life with a goddess 🤷🏼 Of course its weird at the beggening of their relationship, but I mean since the toothpast you can't deny it, if so, its clrearly about something else than chemestry you don't like Mister. I just discovered your podcast. Im glad! Keep going ! Really important to have black nerdy womens POV (on all show), but this one particulary. I love that your 3 POV are different too that's refreshing cause its muliple, complexe, funny and transformative. Thank you.
The biggest take away from all this discourse is that most people hating on michonne , seem to want the badass Rick but keep forgetting that one of the things that contribute to him (Rick) being badass is Michonne , she is brave ,intelligent , a badass mom , supportive and loving , she is not a classic maiden like Lori in all ways that makes her an equal partner to Rick , secondly Rick us always drawn strength and courage from her remember that season with Negan , Rick was literally terrified to fight till she convinced him to fight and in the end they won . Plus people are so scared of emotional intimacy and vulnerability nowadays that when they see it through the lens of a powerful role they find it jarring and begin hating. Anyways Richonne we won ❤
I’m one of your new subscribers, I came across you channel on accident E3 went back to watch E1&2 and here for all y’all have to say. And we all know why folks have a problem with Rick and Michonne’s relationship. Casey I feel you if I ever meet Danai Ima fall out too, it’s on my bucket list. This episode made me 😢 laugh clap and cheer. Richonne is Back!
I said the same thing. Jadis is not gonna believe that they died........ She gonna be like these MF got nine lives like cats. I think Jadis outside the building patrolling the area like a watch dog lmao.
Ladies, what do you think of that behind the scenes photo of Rick & Thorne both in RED STRIPE UNIFORMS ?? Can't cover that much in the last 2 episodes. Season 2🤔🤔
Hi ladies new to yr channel just subscribed 🎉🎉 Michonne wasn't being petty, she was saying thank you because she knew her Rick was somewhere in that CRM uniform
I don't know if it's gonna be on IG live or the time, but Danai & Yvette Nicole Brown or gonna sit down & discuss 1X04 today. I don't know about y'all but I really miss Talking Dead & Yvette's critiques. I'm thinking IG.
I'm pissed because Pollyanna McIntosh was in Santa Monica promoting her movie Double Blind this past Saturday, check it out if you can, and I a Cali native. My sister is in the Palisades which is minutes away. Missed opportunity for me😥Girl, I wanted to slack the snot outta Rick😩
Have you heard of The Camp? It's a TWD-centric fan event (convention) held here in Peachtree City, GA every May. We've been attending for two years now and they have a ton of actors from the shows coming. Pollyanna will be there. You should check it out: thecampevents.com/ptc/guests/
Jadis was creepy with her flirting with Rick. In the real world, she would’ve been a walking HR violation. 🤦🏽♀️ ( She literally asked Michonne for permission to sleep with him in the junkyard in season7.) She’s relentless and creepy.
@@merp9211 Can’t blame her at all!! She maybe thought that at a certain point he would have said yes to her! Poor Jadis….I am sure it was a torture being around a man like that who doesn’t reciprocate your feelings. LOL
This is what I saw in the trailer. They were fighting new variants, one of them was hard to kill. That could be why Michonne, decided they could not go home. These new variants were some how contacted to the CRM. Jadis is not going to let Rick go. She wants him for herself. The CRM might think they are dead, but not Jadis. She is going to go and find out. This is my theory of what I believe the Echelon Brief is. They are either trying to make super soldiers out of the walkers or the Echelon Brief is really a form of brainwashing. With the 3 cans in the back seat and a full tank, they had enough fuel to get home. Morgan is going to Alexandria first. Because that is where he last saw Rick. He will find out about what happened on the bridge. That Michonne has gone to find Rick. That Judith and RJ are at the Commonwealth. He could leave the little girl he is travelling with there and go to look for them
And let me say in advance, I think that little cough that Michonne did, where Rick asked her if she was alright, was a sign of NOTHING good to come. I think they are going to kill her off. I TRULY hope that I am wrong, but if not, I WILL BE BEYOND PISSED TF OFF!!!! If they kill off either one of them, it will cause me to FKN RIOT!!! Lol! Lol!!
@KACEYGEMINI23 I agree, but the show is only 6 episodes, they have never mentioned a season 2, and in some interviews Danai, Andrew, and Scott Gimple have mentioned that they needed to give the fans a "climax" to the Rick and Michonne story. I HATE Scott Gimple because he was responsible for most of the deaths throughout TWD series, which in turn brought the downfall of the show upon us all!! I DO NOT trust him at all and would not be surprised if he kills one or both of them off! I will be PISSED OFF, but not surprised, lol!! I really do hope that I am wrong, but Scott Gimple is CRAZY and UNPREDICTABLE when it comes to this show!!
@@wafflesmomforlife9215 they can't give us a nice safe ending for the main show and fear... and then Jack it up with this one! 🤣🤣 but like Scott hinkle said... this is the walking dead...🙄🙄🙄
Also, I don't think they will make it back to their children. Michonne mentioned how much RJ looks like Rick, but what child actor could they find to play that part? I think it was something easily said because the ending of this show will not see them reunited. OH LAWD, I HOPE I AM WRONG!!! Lol!! I just will be SO FKN ANGRY IF SCOTT KILLS ONE OR BOTH OF THEM OFF!!
@cleogriffith9921 FINGERS CROSSED that they don't kill themselves off, lol!! But as far as I have heard, they are producers, not writers, though Danai did write the one episode which was last night.
@cleogriffith9921 Right, as EP's they are involved in the process, but what process is that? The word is that Andrew Lincoln wanted to kill off Rick so that he could "move on". The other word is that Danai wants to move on as well to concentrate on her playwriting. So who knows, as EP's, if they did not agree to kill off Rick or Michonne to give the fans an ending to the love story? As I said earlier, I TRULY HOPE NOT, lol!! But at this point, I would not put a bet on the fact that they live happily ever after! ESPECIALLY with Scott Gimple involved, lol! He was the person who RUINED the show with his HORRIFIC writing!! I'm just keeping my fingers crossed!!
You can be in love with someone and not realize it. He and Michonne at that point were already family, romance or no. So it probably didn't occur to him that what he needed was right under his nose all along. Jessie was someone new, fresh, and someone who did not know the "old" Rick, so he probably just thought it was a chance to get to know someone without all the baggage. I don't think that would have ever worked.
Jessie was pretty. I think Rick was attracted to the damsel in distress ( just like Lori) until he learned that the best relationships are built on friendship. That’s why what he has with Michonne is stronger and deeper. It’s not just a physical attraction.
During the sexy time. That was Rick absolutely letting go of his trauma. He was so terrified and here was his soulmate making him complete again. He was centered once again. I loved this episode so much. I mean felt all that breathe taking emotion in my spine. Wow. Team #Richonne
I agree I think his former life at that moment finally became real to him and he started “feeling” again notice she had to bring him back by making him look directly at her and touching her heart
I love how Danai put her personal mark on this episode with that Afro-centric song that played at the end of the episode✊🏽👊🏽🤛🏽💪🏽
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I don't think the "thank you" was sarcasm either. It was genuine, a thank you for saving her and a thank you for proving that part of the old him was still in there.
Rick did confirm on this episode that Michonne did indeed beat his kill record.
And they wouldn’t even need to change the name, only the number. 😁
The cross examiner came out in Michonne with that "let me get this straight..." & that look. That was nothing but a lawyer y'all.
That “thank you” from her was absolutely thank you for still being you somewhere in there. It wasn’t the least sarcastic. It was tender. He threw himself between walkers and her.
I’ve watched this episode 4 times in less than 18 hours.
3 times for me. I plan on watching again after work.
I’m glad I’m not the only one. 🤗
Now I don't feel bad, I've been watching that masterpiece every other day since it's showing 😂😂😂
14:30, yes, I noticed their flirtation/chemistry this episode too. She brought Carl back comic books and Rick a razor for his face, which is a pretty personal/intimate item to get someone. And he was not pleased when she was talking about going out as far as Macon. People who say they don't understand or see the chemistry are nuts, because fans were talking about it as early as season 3 or 4 at Comic Con.
The main ones who dont want see then together are the racists. Omg the amount of comments on youtube from groups of people who jealous of on screen relationship due to race is disturbing. I love me some Richonne. This episode epic. The writing was phenomenal. The acting those two did the rawness the in deep details of struggles both went through mentally was displayed. Both actors deserve emmys. ❤❤❤❤❤
I’m so glad the algorithm is send black female creators in this fandom my way. I didn’t know there were so many. Yall got my thumbs up and subscribe has been clicked❤
Poor Rick had a whole panic attack during that love scene. I loved how she comforted him with his hand on her heart. ( I think it’s a hilarious idea that he had “finished” when he shuddered. Too funny. That poor man was panicking.😂)
Danai spoke extensively on how she researched PTSD and Trauma because she didn’t want thi# to be Just Another Copulation Scene.
What resulted was probably one of, if not THE most meaningful and intimate Love Scenes EVER depicted on TV.
I’m surprised people couldn’t see what was happening with him, and how *she* saw and recognized what was happening to him.
The way she looked at him, trying to hold his attention, and whispered “Hey…”
I don’t remember ever seeing this level of *initimacy* between a couple.
When she put her hand on her chest and held it there so he could feel her breathe and breathe with her. (A grounding technique.)
It was some Emmy-worthy work.
That love scene was connecting back to each❤❤
Rick was battling reality and dream Michonne ❤❤❤
Oh yeah, and another thing about Michonne that I forgot is that she had a son that died in the before times, so leaving her kids was a huge thing. So, I get why she definitely felt some kind of way when he didn't IMMEDIATELY say let's go home. I've lost a child and you've lost a child, and you can't muster up the courage to fight? Man! Lol.
Before times? Before what?
@@thatgirlwearingglasses4133 Before the whole apocalypse happened in the Walking Dead universe.
Idk how Michonne's "thank you" could be interpreted as sarcasm.
I think her thanks was knowing her Rick is still in there somewhere ❤❤
I have to confess, I think Rick looked handsome in that CRM uniform. I wasn’t in a rush to see him change into street clothes. 🤷🏽♀️
The “thank you” was sincere. It wasn’t sarcastic at all. She was seriously telling him to leave, and he refused because he loves her and would never leave her. His reponse was sincere as well. I think Michonne is unsure of Rick in that moment. That may have occurred before she asked him if he still loved her. Not sure why she thought he would leave her though.
No, it happened after.
@@thatgirlwearingglasses4133Yeah! Not sure why I wrote that! 😂 This whole scene was way after she asked that, which was in the beginning of the episode!
Just finished watching your entire video. I’m glad I found you all. I really enjoy your conversation.
I’ve met both Andy and Danai in person (at Walker Stalker con). She’s beautiful!
I don’t think that’s how she intended to tell him about RJ. She was mad mad and just spewing anger at him. Then (as we Jamaicans would say). - she kissed her teeth (KMT) as if to say “damn it”.
I also thought all the conversations were so real. Real couple conversations. That’s why she wanted to write this episode.
Can’t hardly wait for next week.
I bet that was exciting getting to meet them!! And I agree, those were real couple conversations! Danai did an excellent job on this episode!!
You can tell that Gimple didn't write this episode!!😂😂
And if I ever meet Danai... just pick me up off the floor....😂😂😂😂
I am so jealous you met them both!!!
play nice Kacey LOL
I’m need some Emmy campaigns to start NOW.
EXACTLY!!
I wish TWD would get Emmy, Sag Awards they're such snubs🙄😤
This is as the best episode since the main show. It had suspense, walker danger and intense emotional connection ❤️❤️
I could not believe who that man was in those moments. I knew the RJ reveal was coming & still Rick was on that bullshit. They had a way out & Rick was still on that bullshit. But Michonne's "goody bag" & that Carl phone .... BINGO!!! Once you go black, you don't go back even on TV!!!🤣💙 I couldn't wait to hear you ladies breakdown on 1X04 cuz I know y'all was excited as hell!
Can we also have a 🙌🏾🙌🏾 for the song she chose to close out this episode:
“Aside Happy” by Kabza De Small.
It’s in the Xhosa language, which is one of the languages Danai speaks. (Aka Wakanda’s official language, BTW.)
It begins:
“We are happy
We love each other.They tried to separate us, but they failed…”
Sorry. It’s ASIBE HAPPY!!!
Thank you for this! I haven't had time to look it up yet. I will definitely mention this in next week's discussion.
Wikipedia says that song is sung in the Zulu Language.
The temperature was walking us through their emotions. “10 minutes until your desired temperature…”
Danai did that. Using a smart home as Greek Chorus. This is how a Playwright thinks. She isn’t a multi-award winning playwright for nothin’. 😁
I think the "thank you" from Michonne was genuine, but the "sorry" from Rick was sarcastic (when the walker's blood splashed on her). When they went bk to the room, she was still upset but both of them couldn't hold out any longer LMAO. These two ppl love each other so much, but 8 years is a long time to be a part. When Rick approached her slowly, it reminded me of season S7:E5 "Go Getters" when he was going on the road trip and she was still upset that Rick was willing to live under Negans thumb. In this episode Rick was feeling his way through a rough situation lol, but knowing Michonne. She loves this man way too much to not give in - especially since she hasn't felt his touch in soo long. I'm still surprised they didn't do it before the argument and then after the argument. The tension was there from the moment she found him - that is why they kissed every chance they got. It was just a way of releasing all that built up tension.
Yeah. Rick’s “sorry” was mostly, *oops. let me move away because she has a weapon*. He knew all that wasn’t necessary and that it was maybe little bit petty.
They don’t fight like that. Killing walkers can be messy, but the two of them working together is usually efficient and quick.
She wasn’t saying thank you sarcastically. They weren’t in the argument when she was pinned under that light fixture. She was really vulnerable and she was being genuine.
The prison scene when Rick said, “must’ve been something else.” He was looking her up and down, checking her out. ( and that was season 3)
Just rewatched the episode and oh my, its even better on a rewatch. Love yalls insights!!
That "Thank You" wasn't sarcastic. I believe her thank you was genuine. It had all the emotions.
I cried like a baby during this episode.
Girl! Award winning episode 👏🏼 🙌🏼 👌🏽 👍🏼 We really needed to feel their love for each other ❤❤❤😢❤❤❤
Just starting to watch your video and I had to stop to comment that I TOTALLY FKN AGREE with what you said about Andrew Lincolns acting in this episode!! He had me SOBBING OUTLOUD!! Oh...HE DID THAT SHIT TONIGHT!!!! Lol! Lol!
I can understand why the Lady at the bottom panel thought Michonne's “Thank you” was sarcastic, but if you notice Her breathing, it's still clear that Her lungs are affected by the Chlorine gas burns and that it was said in a laboured way without as much "oomf" behind it as She intended. I'm worried about Her...🥺
Rick asked her to be there for Carl. It was the ripping out throat for me.
I think the truck is fully charged, because stock unplugged it. Plus, they have ethanol containers to supplement the charge.
You guys touched on everything I was feeling.
They are in oregon bc thats where the scientists where at. The apartment is that lady scientist from world beyond.
Is it????
This was the most intimate sex scene. And when he started to have a panic attack at the most intimate moment, and she was there with him, reminding him. Also, the Bridgerton thing? She sent them clips of scenes between people who were obviously in love even while they looked to the world like they weren’t on the same page. They did NOT watch the Bridgerton sex scenes. She sent clips of dialogue for their writing, because they needed some insight on writing Romance. And TOWL is a Love Story.
Danai said she did send Andy and Scott the Anothy & Kate "bee sting" scene to show them what she meant by calming Rick's panic.
"A little bit more"?? I'm 52 & I had to look the hell away & felt bashful during their love scene😊
You know I was wondering about that. I closed my eyes and face for a brief second because I felt like I was intruding. Why do you think we feel like that, I’m curious. We’ve watched love scenes and it doesn’t feel intrusive ?
@@nonyenelson3898This is probably the most *intimate* lovemaking scene ever on TV because it’s *not about the Sex*.
Every other time I’ve ever seen a scene like this, it’s about the Sex.
After the arguing, miscommunIcation, the close call in the stairwell, they let their barriers down and reconnect. Kudos to the actors, direction, cinematography because it’s shot *very* intimately.
Had it not been for the panic attack, it could’ve been just another Love Scene, yes it would be gorgeous and hot, but Danai didn’t want just that.
She made it a Love Scene that wasn’t just about the Sex. It was the revelation of a Wound. Rick’s Trauma. And afterward, the revelation of Michonne’s trauma as well.
@@gwenwafer6420 wow!! Excellent analysis, thanks for sharing
And here's you ladies for delivering another engaging, humorous stream🙌🏽👏🏽
Thank you ❤❤❤❤
Thank you!!!!
That was smart thinking when you said Thorne assigned Rick to be in charge of the fuel. He knows how much they have available abs where it’s all stored.
I don’t think Michonne was being sarcastic. She was sincerely thanking him for rescuing her. She was doubting how Rick felt about her, because he wasn’t being honest.
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Awww thank you!!! That means so much!
The thanksgiving you wasn’t sarcastic. I think she was just tired of fighting and it was part of her being unsure of who he was at that moment
He hadn’t even said Carl’s name the whole while he was at Philadelphia. He couldn’t say his name to the artist. Couldn’t remember what he looked like, because he’d started to forget *on purpose*. This was the first time he’d said it in almost *10 years*.
that scene absolutely destroyed me. I felt every bit of Andy's soul in that performance.
LMAO!!! That elevator had 2 minutes left, after that 1st round with Michonne, Rick only had 1 minute left LOL!!🤣🤣
I said the same thing!! 😂😂😂😂😂
I think Michonne and Rick currently in/near the Oregon coast. I saw the ocean and the mountains. What an adventure!! I absolutely love your chemistry. This is my first visit. I just found you.!!!
Thank you and welcome!
It's unlikely the helicopter turned back around to search for them. Michonne likely yanked Rick out, over the lake, right before the helicopter flew into the building due to low visibility. They showed us, in one of the first scenes, the point of view from within the building, that the helicopter was flying very low over the lake, just before they jumped out.
Jadis isn't merely "petty." She's been sexually obsessed with Rick since she met him. That obsession would drive her to go after Rick, if not to bring him back, then to take his life so he's not happy without her.
A true bottle (or in this case, a box) episode. The building was a character by reflecting their temperament and de/ reconstruction of their relationship.
I did not see that “thank you” as sarcasm. Especially because she told him she needed to hear him say he would never leave her. I think it was genuine gratitude bc she finally saw a bit of her rick. The one who makes her feel safe.
Michonne didn’t mean for the RJ reveal to happen that way. I believe Danai confirmed that during her interview with Yvette Nicole brown.
The “thank you” was not sarcastic. She meant it genuinely because she would sacrifice herself for him too but also because his refusal to leave with her has caused her to feel unsure about him.
I think Rick and Michonne are absolutely getting home to their family. The preview didn’t say they weren’t going home. Michonne said that’s “ not where the story ends.” I think that means they’re going home, but won’t be satisfied to stay safe with family. They’ll feel compelled to leave home together to stop the CRM.
Just rewatching this and not sure why I didn’t comment on this before - but Michonne definitely accidentally dropped the RJ knowledge. You can tell by her annoyance at having done so when she sucks her teeth. She was upset and not really thinking!
I’m pretty sure Michonne confirmed this too in an interview she did with YNB about the episode!!
That lovemaking scene was HOT AF!!I think they were REALLY DOING IT, LOL!!!!
I was beginning to wonder whether Mrs Clutterbuck made Andrew leave TWD in the first place. He and Danai have undeniable chemistry, even in the pre-series interviews.
@Evilene121162 SAME THING I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS, LOL!! There is NO WAY his wife can be comfortable with the ON and OFF screen chemistry between the two of them!! I know I would not be!! I have said from the beginning that his wife pulled the plug on things, but why is he back now?? My theory is that they either needed the money, or he told his wife that Danai is gay or something, lol!! No one can tell me that Andrew and Danai don't have something going on! And sadly, I have to admit, I think they are SO FKN CUTE together!! SORRY MRS. CLUTTERBUCK!!! Lol!!
This is a little disrespectful, no? They are actors and professionals.
@stx82 Nope! Not disrespectful at all!! Just an acknowledgment of their over-the-top believable love scenes, unlike any I have ever seen before, lol!! Ya just never know!!!
I think it’s just the culture around TWD, it seems like the lines get blurred because they are very method oriented in their approach to storytelling in how they portray and act as the characters.
Maybe it’s Heath watching them. He basically vanished in a puff of smoke.🤷🏽♀️
2nd season of World Beyond answers a lot of questions about Jadis and the CRM.
I really need to find time to go back and do a rewatch. I really did love that second season.
Three things:
I absolutely loved their arguments because they were so real.
I was mortified that they got in the elevator or a crumbling building. I will not be surprised if we see them dead in the elevator if there's not another season of this show.
I just find that e-car they found with all the fuel in the back seat totally suspicious. It was way too convenient.
It was an excellent episode. Kudos to both Andrew and Danai.
“Thank you” was not sarcastic at all. Rick replied “You don’t ever have to say sorry to me”. He wouldn’t respond that way to sarcasm. The writing has to soften them a bit before they return time the apartment and wordlessly start becoming intimate. The writing has to set that up so no that “thank you” is not sarcasm.
One more thing Lori could never.....For those that think Michonne is not his true love.
NEVER EVER!
Lori could never. Nor could Jessie, who shouldn’t be counted anyway because Rick was going through some things when he met her.
I'm new here, Lori and Jesse won't survive what Richonne has been going through from S3 to now. This would break both women without a doubt🙅🏾♀️
Michonne has kept the faith in Rick and their ppl. That's why she's the Queen of the ZA🎉🎉🎉
Did you guys catch what caused Jadis come looking after the crash? When that damn building was crumbling some it fell on that damn PRB & flipped the switch on. If you look closely you can see that little green light come on after some of the ceiling fell on it. Because we know Jadis is coming. Now we know who she was running off the road in the truck.
I'm gonna go back and look... but I thought I was broken into pieces
Girl, when you mentioned Outlander, I think I spontaneously started ovulating. 😂 Jamie❤️
Aha!!! Another Sassenach!!! FYI - Michele and I cover that as well on this podcast, but we're behind on season 7.
Wonderful discussion! Does anyone think Portland could be involved in bringing down the CRM or helping Rick and Michonne?
I think they can, especially is Hope and Elton and their traveling party can warn them in time.
Sorey, meant to say Iris - I think Hope was the one who stayed behind to help her dad.
They were in the Rocky Mountains (Colorado) when they went to take on the Colums. So at the most they are driving from CO.
The way she thanks him seems to be a real plane thank you. No sarcasm, no feelings, just a simple thank you for helping me. The kind of TY we see between two caracters that just met and one decide to save the other despite not knowing him/her. And I think its Michonne way to cope in that moment, cause she's grateful but at the same time not sure if she's with her Rick or the CRM Rick. What you think?
I agree, especially coming off of the conversation they just had before they left the weight room.
I was wondering if they "consummated" their marriage in that garage in E2, but from the looks of that "gully" scene they did not🤣. Rick needed to break down like that. I liked when Michonne broke down at that camp fire with Nat in E2. I saw freedom. somehow, in those moments.
Thank you ladies for your podcast. I’ve been looking for a black perspective on The Walking Dead.
Thank you and welcome!
I also will throw out, when they first got to Alexandria, Rick met Jessie? He liked her, and the look on Michonnes face was utter disappointment. But I think she always knew they would end up together. ❤
This entire show has a full of talented people. The cinemaphotography is beautiful, the film shots are interesting, the acting of course is really good, the scripts are so good, and so much more from this show that to me, oozes of filmmaking craftmanship. For me personally, I do want this show to be a limited miniseries only though with just its 6 episodes. And of course if the DVD comes out. Oh hell, it's going to be part of my DVD collection. I have to be honest. I haven't watched, fully, the TWD in years. So in a way, I didn't know much about the scar of Michonne's back for example. And I course knew about the Carl thing (never watched that episode either only heard it from many people). And I guess that is why I'm loving the show. I don't feel lost of where the characters' journeys are now in this world. No need to watch the previous shows to just get it. I just blindly just watching it and like what everyone is pretty much saying. I can feel the emotions coming out of the characters, their character journey (internal and external struggles), what the hell is the CRM doing, and yes, Jadius with the Shit hair gotta go. I little worry for Michonne during that walker fight scene (I mean I knew she wasn't going to go, but it felt like it though, the whole what if feel). And right there is how any good shows are able to pull you in. A thing I do want to note about Rick. Even though Michonne and Rick fell into the water and Rick being mostly wet for the episode, is some way of symbolism for Rick basically in the process of being reborn (you see Rick's hand only on the rocks and in a way, crawling to go up) and Rick being all dried the very last scenes of finding his old self again (with of course Michonne's help). I loved ya'lls discussions. And yes, It's time for them to have some time.
Yeah she meant to spill that RJ tea. That was straight sass & pisstivity.
It's Jadis ya''ll not Heath or Morgan. She was the one chasing dem in the car.
Snaps for Danai and her writing. Man, Rick and baby Carl had me in my feelings! Stay in the house Carl! 😭😭😭
Richonne is that real love. Lorie wasn't loyal! She would have run off with Shane if she didn't feel guilty for betraying Rick.
The previews gave old school Walking Dead vibes. I'm over the CRM, so I hope it's a different villain.
55:38 it was definitely a genuine thank you. Especially based on his response/tone.
OMG I WAS WAITING FOR YALL REVIEWW. I'm so excited to watch..... let me go get my popcorn and candy.
I red on reddit something like "ok but why he's not dreaming about Lorie if he's so about family blablabla" ... Well Mister Lorie, Judith call Michonne mom, get over it.
Rick even fall in love in other way with her, c'mon Mister family 😅 Seems like some are hurt bc the Rick alfa prep style white cop dude with guns at the beggening of TWD has changed and found the love of his life with a goddess 🤷🏼 Of course its weird at the beggening of their relationship, but I mean since the toothpast you can't deny it, if so, its clrearly about something else than chemestry you don't like Mister.
I just discovered your podcast. Im glad! Keep going ! Really important to have black nerdy womens POV (on all show), but this one particulary. I love that your 3 POV are different too that's refreshing cause its muliple, complexe, funny and transformative. Thank you.
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The biggest take away from all this discourse is that most people hating on michonne , seem to want the badass Rick but keep forgetting that one of the things that contribute to him (Rick) being badass is Michonne , she is brave ,intelligent , a badass mom , supportive and loving , she is not a classic maiden like Lori in all ways that makes her an equal partner to Rick , secondly Rick us always drawn strength and courage from her remember that season with Negan , Rick was literally terrified to fight till she convinced him to fight and in the end they won .
Plus people are so scared of emotional intimacy and vulnerability nowadays that when they see it through the lens of a powerful role they find it jarring and begin hating.
Anyways Richonne we won ❤
I’m one of your new subscribers, I came across you channel on accident E3 went back to watch E1&2 and here for all y’all have to say. And we all know why folks have a problem with Rick and Michonne’s relationship. Casey I feel you if I ever meet Danai Ima fall out too, it’s on my bucket list. This episode made me 😢 laugh clap and cheer. Richonne is Back!
Girl! We gonna have to pick each other up off the floor!! 😂😂😂
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I said the same thing. Jadis is not gonna believe that they died........ She gonna be like these MF got nine lives like cats. I think Jadis outside the building patrolling the area like a watch dog lmao.
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Ladies, what do you think of that behind the scenes photo of Rick & Thorne both in RED STRIPE UNIFORMS ?? Can't cover that much in the last 2 episodes. Season 2🤔🤔
I hope we get a season 2!!
There’s no way to totally wrap up the story in two episodes, unless they’re two- hour long episodes.
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Michonne wasn't being petty, she was saying thank you because she knew her Rick was somewhere in that CRM uniform
I don't know if it's gonna be on IG live or the time, but Danai & Yvette Nicole Brown or gonna sit down & discuss 1X04 today. I don't know about y'all but I really miss Talking Dead & Yvette's critiques. I'm thinking IG.
Same! Like, what happened with Talking Dead? All of these spinoffs and no TD has been baffling to me.
I'm pissed because Pollyanna McIntosh was in Santa Monica promoting her movie Double Blind this past Saturday, check it out if you can, and I a Cali native. My sister is in the Palisades which is minutes away. Missed opportunity for me😥Girl, I wanted to slack the snot outta Rick😩
Have you heard of The Camp? It's a TWD-centric fan event (convention) held here in Peachtree City, GA every May. We've been attending for two years now and they have a ton of actors from the shows coming. Pollyanna will be there. You should check it out: thecampevents.com/ptc/guests/
Jadis was creepy with her flirting with Rick. In the real world, she would’ve been a walking HR violation. 🤦🏽♀️ ( She literally asked Michonne for permission to sleep with him in the junkyard in season7.) She’s relentless and creepy.
Jadis always wanted him! She practically kidnapped him lol ….I mean I get it! He is fine as hell! 🤷🏻♀️
@@marym5037 If I was an artist, I’d want him to pose for me too. I can’t blame her for that. 😅
@@merp9211 Can’t blame her at all!! She maybe thought that at a certain point he would have said yes to her! Poor Jadis….I am sure it was a torture being around a man like that who doesn’t reciprocate your feelings. LOL
Jadis got killed.I was glad she was nothing but trouble.I was happy 😁.She was stuck on Rick
She naturally liking Rick too.
Hi! This is the first time I found your channel. Great content!
Thank you and welcome!!!
You ever watch Game of Thrones? Rick was like Reek, when he was so traumatized and fearful. He couldn’t escape on his own.
YES!!!!!! That is a great comparison!!
This is spot on.
This is what I saw in the trailer. They were fighting new variants, one of them was hard to kill. That could be why Michonne, decided they could not go home. These new variants were some how contacted to the CRM.
Jadis is not going to let Rick go. She wants him for herself. The CRM might think they are dead, but not Jadis. She is going to go and find out. This is my theory of what I believe the Echelon Brief is. They are either trying to make super soldiers out of the walkers or the Echelon Brief is really a form of brainwashing.
With the 3 cans in the back seat and a full tank, they had enough fuel to get home.
Morgan is going to Alexandria first. Because that is where he last saw Rick. He will find out about what happened on the bridge. That Michonne has gone to find Rick. That Judith and RJ are at the Commonwealth. He could leave the little girl he is travelling with there and go to look for them
And let me say in advance, I think that little cough that Michonne did, where Rick asked her if she was alright, was a sign of NOTHING good to come. I think they are going to kill her off. I TRULY hope that I am wrong, but if not, I WILL BE BEYOND PISSED TF OFF!!!! If they kill off either one of them, it will cause me to FKN RIOT!!! Lol! Lol!!
ABSOLUTELY!!
@@KACEYGEMINI23 I TRULY hope I am wrong, lol!!!
@@wafflesmomforlife9215 I don't see either of them being killed off... to me that would defeat the whole purpose of the show!
@KACEYGEMINI23 I agree, but the show is only 6 episodes, they have never mentioned a season 2, and in some interviews Danai, Andrew, and Scott Gimple have mentioned that they needed to give the fans a "climax" to the Rick and Michonne story. I HATE Scott Gimple because he was responsible for most of the deaths throughout TWD series, which in turn brought the downfall of the show upon us all!! I DO NOT trust him at all and would not be surprised if he kills one or both of them off! I will be PISSED OFF, but not surprised, lol!! I really do hope that I am wrong, but Scott Gimple is CRAZY and UNPREDICTABLE when it comes to this show!!
@@wafflesmomforlife9215 they can't give us a nice safe ending for the main show and fear... and then Jack it up with this one! 🤣🤣 but like Scott hinkle said... this is the walking dead...🙄🙄🙄
Also, I don't think they will make it back to their children. Michonne mentioned how much RJ looks like Rick, but what child actor could they find to play that part? I think it was something easily said because the ending of this show will not see them reunited. OH LAWD, I HOPE I AM WRONG!!! Lol!! I just will be SO FKN ANGRY IF SCOTT KILLS ONE OR BOTH OF THEM OFF!!
Andy and Danai are writers they’re not killing themselves off
@cleogriffith9921 FINGERS CROSSED that they don't kill themselves off, lol!! But as far as I have heard, they are producers, not writers, though Danai did write the one episode which was last night.
@@wafflesmomforlife9215 they’re EP and they have a hand in the story telling, so yes they’re also writers
@cleogriffith9921 Right, as EP's they are involved in the process, but what process is that? The word is that Andrew Lincoln wanted to kill off Rick so that he could "move on". The other word is that Danai wants to move on as well to concentrate on her playwriting. So who knows, as EP's, if they did not agree to kill off Rick or Michonne to give the fans an ending to the love story? As I said earlier, I TRULY HOPE NOT, lol!! But at this point, I would not put a bet on the fact that they live happily ever after! ESPECIALLY with Scott Gimple involved, lol! He was the person who RUINED the show with his HORRIFIC writing!! I'm just keeping my fingers crossed!!
@@wafflesmomforlife9215 Andy and Danai have a say in what goes on in the writing also
Danai is my Idol so when I do finally meet her, I'll probably pass out!!!
You and Kacey both!!!
If Rick was falling in love with michonne, how do we explain Jessie?
Jesse a non f factor she zombie food her and her wack job sons
Because Jessie fits the 'type' he was expected to have in the old world, like an old habit.
You can be in love with someone and not realize it. He and Michonne at that point were already family, romance or no. So it probably didn't occur to him that what he needed was right under his nose all along. Jessie was someone new, fresh, and someone who did not know the "old" Rick, so he probably just thought it was a chance to get to know someone without all the baggage. I don't think that would have ever worked.
Jessie was pretty. I think Rick was attracted to the damsel in distress ( just like Lori) until he learned that the best relationships are built on friendship. That’s why what he has with Michonne is stronger and deeper. It’s not just a physical attraction.
He also told Carl, "this is different", which meant he knew already - after Day 1 - that this was unlike anything he'd had before.
I think it maybe Morgan
Great video. All three of you women are beautiful ❤️
Thank you so much!
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