Played the game. To me, it has the best combat in the series. But I ain't gone lie some of the dialog in the game was weird as hell. Like you can see it was forced because the game really didn't even need it
Yup, I’m right there with you. I’m still playing through the game, about 50 hours deep. I really enjoy the story and combat is fantastic. But there are some conversations that feel forced in a “fantasy” setting for a certain character, Taash. With that said, Taash is great character and voice actress does a great job. But, yeah, we don’t need to shoehorn modern issues into a fantasy game.
I finished the game after 90 hours, great combat, really god story, good graphics but some strange dialogue. All in all a good game not incredible but solid. To bad it fell viticm to the to me crazy culture war going on in the gaming scene. It is so strange to me that people just can’t enjoy games for what it is and get hung up on silly details that is made bigger than they are by toxic content creators (not you).
@ Agreed, it’s not amazing, but still a very good game. The culture war across modern society is so weird. Remember people would just ignore something they didn’t like? I sure do remember and I still practice that.
I'm more of a Mass Effect fan. I have to hope the silver lining is Dragon Age failed so they learn the lessons of how to not F up Mass Effect. But a gaming publisher learning the simple lesson of making games FOR gamers and not some mythical 'modern audience' that doesn't even play games? Won't hold my breath
That's how i felt when Dragon, age 2, released back in 2011. Nothing has been so great released since then. Always had wokeness or toned down characters somehow.
@@plainluke722 but in Mass Effect it was written more as an organic component of the world. You didn't have to engage with it and it wasn't rammed down your throat. In DA, it was this odd, out of place thing shoehorned into the game and then tried to give the player some odd teaching moment for real life when we play games to escape and / or have fun. Add to that the very character they wanted us to 'label correctly' was insufferable who refused to call other people by their preferred titles. Oof
I can imagine somewhere in the corporate office of BioWare, the company leadership collectively came up with the idea that if we wait a full decade before releasing a new game in an established IP, the people that play the new game will be some all-new, all-modern demographics and hence, they can just disregard the vibes of the IP up to that point and go in some wild directions. Yeah, it almost never works like that with established IPs. BioWare wasted 10 years and gained no new playerbase with The Veilguard.
So many critics labeled DA Veilguard as a "return to form". I now know what outlets to tune out. Quite a few scenes came off as if the malicious versions of Neil Breen and Tommy Wiseau joined the writing room to mess with gamers.
The developers made the game for themselves, not the core dragon age audience. They brushed the old Dragon Age fans aside, forgetting that those are also their customers, & probably a bigger chunk of the fanbase.
Bioware is not and has not been bioware for years... Those people are gone and long time fans of bioware noticed that even before taash showed up... If you played it, it seems as if the wild doesn't match the story and the character were too self absorbed and none of them acted like an adult except emmerich the rest acted like teenagers having a mid life crisis... The gameplay was top tier though... These new story and character devs in gaming are horrible as a whole
People attribute this game's failure to the "woke" content. But if you actually play it, the woke content is almost parody of woke culture. I mean, there were so many instances in the story where they literally mocked woke culture by trying to overtly woke. It was a terrible script but funny if you consider it a parody of woke. That's a problem though because the pre-sale reviews (even with embargo) were slamming it instantly.
@lostvayne9146 It had good combat, was a good 150 hours out of a 160 hour playthrough 10 hours of bad writing and DEI dialogue didn't diminish my 150 hours of great adventuring i had, it's my opinion of course you can call it slop👍
Bioware chose to push "the message" instead of make a great dragon age game and just like every other company that did so before lost them a lot of money.
what!??? Because I have no interest to play a game, I can't report on EA's financials? When did we make that a qualifier? Did you mention the same thing with FC 25 which was also mentioned in the video?
@@VGFightSchool Oh you were reporting on EA financials in the video. The thumbnail and title seemed to make it pretty clear you would be discussing DA: TVG's failure. So click-bait and not necessarily disingenuous, I got it.
There are lots of things you don’t even consider. I played this game with five friends. I’m the only one who bought it. How does that make sense? My four friends, who all played and finished veilguard, played on ea subscription for 19.99, and immediately cancelled the subscription. FC 2025 sales were worse than dragon age but you seem to not even know that. You gotta do more research.
Not a few things. Game reached only 1.5M users. I think they included subscription and sales too in the way the articles pose it. EA FC 25 had some slowdown, but keep in mind, that game is a $1B+ game each year for EA. So falling short is not in the same category as DA as that game has Micro-transactions each year. I played FIFA for years (didn't buy MT), but I can tell you there are people who exclusively play it each year and don't even know what DA is.
I been playing Dragon Age Veilgaurd. The gameplay is very good. The story is good but the dei implementation inserts wasn’t necessary. We are fighting Dragons then afterwards have a discussion about binary😂😂
Did you play and complete dragon age inquisition? This game should follow on from the story in DA:I if it is supposed to be a dragon age game. A friend of mine bought it thinking it would follow on and was burned because it wasn't a continuation of that game but by the time he figured that out was outside the refund period. This is the issue as much as the DEI inserts etc which is using the game as a vehicle for messaging rather than telling the next part of the story to the same level of quality of storytelling as previous installments. It's like tuning in for the next episode of squid game to find a documentary on DEI activism instead of an episode you were expecting.
Corrine DEFINITELY got fired and did not leave on her own lol.
his own. Its the same dude who ruined the Sims
Played the game. To me, it has the best combat in the series. But I ain't gone lie some of the dialog in the game was weird as hell. Like you can see it was forced because the game really didn't even need it
Yup, I’m right there with you. I’m still playing through the game, about 50 hours deep. I really enjoy the story and combat is fantastic. But there are some conversations that feel forced in a “fantasy” setting for a certain character, Taash. With that said, Taash is great character and voice actress does a great job. But, yeah, we don’t need to shoehorn modern issues into a fantasy game.
I finished the game after 90 hours, great combat, really god story, good graphics but some strange dialogue. All in all a good game not incredible but solid. To bad it fell viticm to the to me crazy culture war going on in the gaming scene. It is so strange to me that people just can’t enjoy games for what it is and get hung up on silly details that is made bigger than they are by toxic content creators (not you).
@ Agreed, it’s not amazing, but still a very good game. The culture war across modern society is so weird. Remember people would just ignore something they didn’t like? I sure do remember and I still practice that.
The article says 1.5 milliom players engaged not units sold.
Yikes. Missed that.
@@VGFightSchoolYeah, the title is misleading in the articlem
I'm more of a Mass Effect fan. I have to hope the silver lining is Dragon Age failed so they learn the lessons of how to not F up Mass Effect. But a gaming publisher learning the simple lesson of making games FOR gamers and not some mythical 'modern audience' that doesn't even play games? Won't hold my breath
This is ea they will just go back to only sports games and loot boxes
You're dreaming
Playing Mass Effect, its more LGBT friendly than Dragon Age. EA/Bioware are going to butcher it lol
That's how i felt when Dragon, age 2, released back in 2011. Nothing has been so great released since then. Always had wokeness or toned down characters somehow.
@@plainluke722 but in Mass Effect it was written more as an organic component of the world. You didn't have to engage with it and it wasn't rammed down your throat. In DA, it was this odd, out of place thing shoehorned into the game and then tried to give the player some odd teaching moment for real life when we play games to escape and / or have fun.
Add to that the very character they wanted us to 'label correctly' was insufferable who refused to call other people by their preferred titles. Oof
They're willing to crash their company and name in order to get out their dumb message
Android Wilson not happy, Beep Boop! ☠️
I can imagine somewhere in the corporate office of BioWare, the company leadership collectively came up with the idea that if we wait a full decade before releasing a new game in an established IP, the people that play the new game will be some all-new, all-modern demographics and hence, they can just disregard the vibes of the IP up to that point and go in some wild directions.
Yeah, it almost never works like that with established IPs. BioWare wasted 10 years and gained no new playerbase with The Veilguard.
So many critics labeled DA Veilguard as a "return to form". I now know what outlets to tune out. Quite a few scenes came off as if the malicious versions of Neil Breen and Tommy Wiseau joined the writing room to mess with gamers.
They made it more like mass effect. I can't believe they took out character when u r out in the world.
The developers made the game for themselves, not the core dragon age audience.
They brushed the old Dragon Age fans aside, forgetting that those are also their customers, & probably a bigger chunk of the fanbase.
BG3 is so good.
Bioware is not and has not been bioware for years... Those people are gone and long time fans of bioware noticed that even before taash showed up... If you played it, it seems as if the wild doesn't match the story and the character were too self absorbed and none of them acted like an adult except emmerich the rest acted like teenagers having a mid life crisis... The gameplay was top tier though... These new story and character devs in gaming are horrible as a whole
Welp we won’t be seeing another dragon age game
I love the game❤
People attribute this game's failure to the "woke" content. But if you actually play it, the woke content is almost parody of woke culture. I mean, there were so many instances in the story where they literally mocked woke culture by trying to overtly woke. It was a terrible script but funny if you consider it a parody of woke. That's a problem though because the pre-sale reviews (even with embargo) were slamming it instantly.
I enjoyed Dragon age Veilguard once I ignored all the non binary conversations but yeah fact is the game didn't do so good.
lol no. Its filth slop.
@lostvayne9146 It had good combat, was a good 150 hours out of a 160 hour playthrough 10 hours of bad writing and DEI dialogue didn't diminish my 150 hours of great adventuring i had, it's my opinion of course you can call it slop👍
Need for speed hot pursuit thats years old and its in the top 15 ps5 games. Wow thats pretty impressive considering how old the game is.
@alostcause4035 still it's impressive.
It was free on ps plus for January
50% that old saying comes to mind. Fuck around and find out.🤷♂️
I loved the previous DA games and have completed them all, multiple times. I won't be touching veilguard, even on sale or when it comes to gamepass.
Bioware chose to push "the message" instead of make a great dragon age game and just like every other company that did so before lost them a lot of money.
EA leans way too much on their Ultimate gambling income. The players addicted to the Ultimate gambling are starting from scratch every year.
Why are you reporting on this if you have no interest in the genre? Just for the views? Seems disingenuous.
what!??? Because I have no interest to play a game, I can't report on EA's financials?
When did we make that a qualifier? Did you mention the same thing with FC 25 which was also mentioned in the video?
@@VGFightSchool Oh you were reporting on EA financials in the video. The thumbnail and title seemed to make it pretty clear you would be discussing DA: TVG's failure. So click-bait and not necessarily disingenuous, I got it.
I notice u didn't say he lied....
There are lots of things you don’t even consider. I played this game with five friends. I’m the only one who bought it. How does that make sense? My four friends, who all played and finished veilguard, played on ea subscription for 19.99, and immediately cancelled the subscription. FC 2025 sales were worse than dragon age but you seem to not even know that. You gotta do more research.
Not a few things.
Game reached only 1.5M users. I think they included subscription and sales too in the way the articles pose it.
EA FC 25 had some slowdown, but keep in mind, that game is a $1B+ game each year for EA. So falling short is not in the same category as DA as that game has Micro-transactions each year.
I played FIFA for years (didn't buy MT), but I can tell you there are people who exclusively play it each year and don't even know what DA is.
I been playing Dragon Age Veilgaurd. The gameplay is very good. The story is good but the dei implementation inserts wasn’t necessary. We are fighting Dragons then afterwards have a discussion about binary😂😂
Did you play and complete dragon age inquisition?
This game should follow on from the story in DA:I if it is supposed to be a dragon age game.
A friend of mine bought it thinking it would follow on and was burned because it wasn't a continuation of that game but by the time he figured that out was outside the refund period.
This is the issue as much as the DEI inserts etc which is using the game as a vehicle for messaging rather than telling the next part of the story to the same level of quality of storytelling as previous installments.
It's like tuning in for the next episode of squid game to find a documentary on DEI activism instead of an episode you were expecting.
The games wasnt meant for me i was told not play so me and all my friends didn't they can't be mad we did what they told us to do loll