Conquest of India - East India Companies - Extra History - Part 2

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    Bombay, April 1619, the British were cowering in a small fort on the coast of India as the Mughal Empire wrecked the British! How did the British Empire get from this loss to their paradoxical conquest of India? Find out in our next installment as we discuss the East India Companies and their contribution to this entangled history!
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  • @DieNibelungenliad
    @DieNibelungenliad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2816

    A Mughal Sultan sends African-Indian soldiers to fight an English merchant company which in turn sends Japanese Ronin to fight a Dutch merchant company which sends pirates to fight Portugese merchants in India...the Age of Exploration was wild

    • @kingofflamingos4344
      @kingofflamingos4344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Wait till you here about the Mayans and thr Japanese.

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

      @@kingofflamingos4344 if that sounds crazy, I recently sw a video of Aztecs under Spanish command fighting the Ottoman Sultan's janniseries in South East Asia.

    • @donrog5035
      @donrog5035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      @@DieNibelungenliad Damn it's like it's a historical fan fiction

    • @CliffCardi
      @CliffCardi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Don’t forget the scientific advancements by Harvey, Huygens, and Galileo. The 17th century alone sounds like a great tabletop setting.

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      17th Century globalism at play

  • @AynenMakino
    @AynenMakino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +950

    It's only fitting, and a testament to the quality of this channel, that when the Dutch finally get some love on the channel it's done within the context of not just the impressive things they accomplished but also the horrible things they did to get there.
    *tips hat to Extra Credits*

    • @steampunksamurai1704
      @steampunksamurai1704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I agree, As a dutchman myself i love stories that where the dutch are involved with, they make me want to learn more and more about my nation`s past instead of others, i really do hope we get something like the 80s war as a series! that would be amazing.

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@steampunksamurai1704 wait until you learn what your ancestors did in Indonesia.

    • @farhanahmed2508
      @farhanahmed2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Like eating their Prime Minister

    • @FoggyMcFogFace
      @FoggyMcFogFace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@farhanahmed2508 Eating a prime minister is one of the impressive things. I'm more concerned about the dozens of genocides.

    • @steampunksamurai1704
      @steampunksamurai1704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yj9032 Oh that i know, dear god that i know.....i feel bad for the indonesian people for having suffered under us that much

  • @beeaggro2593
    @beeaggro2593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    The VOC: Where to match the sheer amount of wealth they had (adjusted for inflation) you have to combine the entire Fortune 500

    • @mrhalo9181
      @mrhalo9181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is incredible that the Dutch did so much despite their small size.

  • @silesiaball9505
    @silesiaball9505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +542

    What I also consider interesting about Portuguese in India is that when they arrived they discovered Christian community there (allegedly found by st. Thomas Apostle) and managed to convert many of them into Catholicism.

    • @apogeelord7013
      @apogeelord7013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Many are still non Catholics here

    • @anarcopablo
      @anarcopablo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@apogeelord7013 How are they called?

    • @apogeelord7013
      @apogeelord7013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@anarcopablo Local name for those people are Nasrani Mapillas, some of them were forced to become Catholics some weren't, and there are names for each, which I don't remember exactly.

    • @shanbhagrohan
      @shanbhagrohan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      That was in Kerala, Orthodox Christians are still a massive proportion of the Kerala Christian population. Kerala however was never under proper Portuguese rule unlike Goa

    • @apogeelord7013
      @apogeelord7013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@shanbhagrohan Kerala was briefly under Portuguese rule, before they shifted to Goa

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +621

    Scotland went bankrupt after the failure of the Darien scheme. So they looked to England to merge, also worth considering they both had the same monarchs during this time.

    • @christianweibrecht6555
      @christianweibrecht6555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Scotland was left with two choices: watch as it's economy is completely eclipsed by England's or bet everything they had on a colonialization attempt
      Related this is why I believe that province will never leave the UK, it's economy would become way too weak and vulnerable

    • @fedrickthegreat2138
      @fedrickthegreat2138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Scotland was forced to join England after being bankrupt from the Darien scheme

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      England had an had in that "failure". Perfid albion

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@christianweibrecht6555 Meh. Scotland now has an option: EU

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@christianweibrecht6555 That hasn't stopped many smaller countries inside Europe from existing.

  • @fedrickthegreat2138
    @fedrickthegreat2138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +709

    “Oh my God don’t tell daddy Bezos”
    I actually laughed at that one

    • @stevejakab274
      @stevejakab274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Companies acting like governments isn't just a European thing, the US has had its share of that as well. See things like "company stores" and the Pinkertons.

    • @fedrickthegreat2138
      @fedrickthegreat2138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@stevejakab274 yes anyways what is your opinion on Amazon not paying taxes

    • @fedrickthegreat2138
      @fedrickthegreat2138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@stevejakab274 I hope they make a video about me one day

    • @gryphonprovenzano3156
      @gryphonprovenzano3156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      …aaannd Amazon has a private army now…

    • @fedrickthegreat2138
      @fedrickthegreat2138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gryphonprovenzano3156 Yeah

  • @rudegamer12
    @rudegamer12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    With you talking about the VOC, I now itching to see a series on some part of Dutch history (preferably about the cape but that just my South African side showing)

    • @gamingmello6729
      @gamingmello6729 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here

    • @royblekman8186
      @royblekman8186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Perhaps The Glorious Revolution would fit better.

    • @bismanaufa5618
      @bismanaufa5618 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vereegnide oost indishche compagnie

    • @bismanaufa5618
      @bismanaufa5618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Voc overwhelmed with java war (prince diponegoro)

    • @karellen4913
      @karellen4913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why not VOC as well in general, I would love to watch that as an Indonesian.

  • @WeebFox69
    @WeebFox69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Portuguese factory were setup under protection from the vijaynagar empire and Delhi sultnate Era mughal arrived in india in 1526

    • @SafavidAfsharid3197
      @SafavidAfsharid3197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Delhi sultanate was in the delhi-panjab area during this time. I think you meant bahamani sultanate and it's fractured states. Intresting thing is one Portuguese traveller even worte about the 3rd vijayanagara-gajapati war and the lesser known 1 year siege of udayagiri.

    • @farhanahmed2508
      @farhanahmed2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Deccan Sultanates*

    • @WeebFox69
      @WeebFox69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@SafavidAfsharid3197 but there fact that mughal backed the Portuguese in 1496 is wrong

    • @zubinjain8675
      @zubinjain8675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WeebFox69 I think it's a simplification for now. After every series EC do a "lies" episodes, where they offer corrections and explain the simplifications

    • @Brslld
      @Brslld 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zubinjain8675 this is still misinformation. I mean how many people actually watch their lies episodes than the actual series.

  • @3ipolarBear
    @3ipolarBear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    2:20 The mughal empire was non-existant in 1498, Babur himself was still ruler of Ferghana and had no territory outside of central asia, and most of the India that the portuguese met was largely divided into many independent sultanates and hindu kingdoms

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The Portuguese mainly dealt with the Bahmani Sultanate and the Vijayanagara empire when they arrived.

    • @manzarmaqbool6176
      @manzarmaqbool6176 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@anirudh177T that would be the Delhi sultanate

    • @manzarmaqbool6176
      @manzarmaqbool6176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Portuguese mainly dealt with the Delhi sultanate as the main state and the coastal smaller states as trading partners

  • @NL-ws5fv
    @NL-ws5fv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Eerily love 6:53. I can imagine Vlad saying, "Ah... Good to see such knowledge still in use"

    • @ishidan01
      @ishidan01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And wave...like this! *twiddles fingers*

  • @johnogroats2733
    @johnogroats2733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    I am so happy to see a fellow Barbossa stan. Everything that comes out of that man's mouth just screams 'pirate' in a way that just makes me happy.

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think everyone loves Barbossa 😊

    • @rowanaboat4523
      @rowanaboat4523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      He is one of the few characters that works extremely well as both a hero and a villain.

    • @SidheKnight
      @SidheKnight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Just because I love Jack Sparrow doesn't mean I don't also love Barbossa

    • @Devantejah
      @Devantejah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Barbossa is the real pirate boss, Sparrow is great too though.

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Devantejah What aaargh you doin?

  • @DenyTheWitch-t9m
    @DenyTheWitch-t9m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    The Mughals weren't ruling India for the entire time of European exploration. When the Portuguese arrived the Mughal Empire had just gotten started, and so the Portuguese didn't even interact with the Mughals for much of their time in India since they occupied coastal towns while the Mughals started inland.
    I get the drive to show how India didn't just get rolled over by the Europeans, but India was much more than just the Mughal Empire.

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      The Portuguese mainly dealt with the Bahmani Sultanate and the Vijayanagara empire when they arrived, If I am not wrong.

    • @esthersmith3056
      @esthersmith3056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      yeah, extra history is a fun popular introduction to these topics, but can sometimes have things embarrassingly wrong (most commonly when they rely on older secondary sources that werent necessarily that well-researched to begin with)

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The dutch don't have the manpower to dump whole populations of indentured workers and tenant farmers in their colonies. They focus on a few important places and set up something more like trade posts. Why have a bunch of dutch go out into the interior and hunt pelts when there's already people doing that who will sell them to you.

    • @kushal4956
      @kushal4956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@esthersmith3056 yes. this was poorly researched. the mughals didn't even exist when the portuguese came to India and the vijayanagara empire which controlled most of south india for the next 5-7 decades after the portuguese arrival didn't even get a mention. the zamorin king who received vasco da gama in 1498 was also called a "mughal" when the mughal empire hadn't conquered Calicut even at its peak

    • @ericmalanowski5957
      @ericmalanowski5957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in fact the Mughals only directly ruled a few northern provinces as everything else was held by local Hindu princes.

  • @joshuafrimpong244
    @joshuafrimpong244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    India: You seem to want to buy our goods
    Britain: Nah m8, we good
    India: We have some unwanted drugs and leaves in water tho...
    Britain: GIVE ME THE PLANTS!

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Wasnt that China though?

    • @joshuafrimpong244
      @joshuafrimpong244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@DieNibelungenliad Both countries are the largest producers of tea, but technically, you are npot entirely wrong

    • @joshuafrimpong244
      @joshuafrimpong244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nimportequi2249 thats pretty rude

    • @AtheistPirate
      @AtheistPirate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@DieNibelungenliad A little industrial espionage here, a bit of transplantation there, and a whole lot of opium addiction to go around.

    • @joshuafrimpong244
      @joshuafrimpong244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@AtheistPirate How Britain made an empire in Asia in a few simple steps

  • @scientia.veritas
    @scientia.veritas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    In Shashi Tharoor's famous speech at Oxford, he did talk about how the Scots tried sending out colonies of their own and failed. Then came the Union, which partly occurred due to the raging poverty in Scotland at the time. After the Union, Scots found lucrative administrative positions in the British Raj - often a larger proportion of Scots than Englishmen were stationed in India in the 19th century.

    • @bazmc1153
      @bazmc1153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From a country that's never surpassed 5 million people, Scots could organize really well.

  • @ShamanMcLamie
    @ShamanMcLamie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Earlier this month I found out my Great Great Grandmother was born in British India. Her father was an Irishman serving as a British Army Engineer and was sent to India for many years. While there he married a local Christian woman whose father was from Poland(he was in India doing work for the British as well and decided to stay) and her mother was Indian. Eventually he brought his new family back home to Ireland. My Great Great Grandmother would eventually join her children in the US, but couldn't immigrate to the US from Ireland so her immigration papers say she is from India which is technically true. My dad currently has my Great Great Great Grandfather's watch that he got serving in India. Our cousin in Ireland has the complimentary saber.

    • @sammm141
      @sammm141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's so cool and interesting to know! I am glad you know a lot about your predecessors.

  • @samsmith4242
    @samsmith4242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    One complaint, Scotland agreed to the act of union after the failure of the Darien scheme and that was proposed by a Scottish dynasty of monarchs in off itself and the Scottish and English parliaments were merged. So, conquest is really the wrong word for that example, right armmy?

    • @RebelScout1
      @RebelScout1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Um, actually 😂😂😂

    • @mjbull5156
      @mjbull5156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      One does wonder what British history would have been had Henry VIII had any legitimate grandchildren.

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      One thing I don't get is why lots of Americans seem to think England conquered Scotland and even most British know that a Scottish king _inherited_ the throne of England and further integration would happen later. This misconception might make a bit of sense if a English king inherited Scotland.

    • @PETE316
      @PETE316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One complaint? What about “armie”?

    • @jarredmace1080
      @jarredmace1080 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sam Smith 100%.

  • @jakobtarrasericsson4295
    @jakobtarrasericsson4295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    My ancestor, John Laurence Tarras actually was one of the directors of the Swedish East India Company.

  • @CornishCreamtea07
    @CornishCreamtea07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    The history of british-Dutch relations are also interesting.

    • @Tommy-5684
      @Tommy-5684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      1688 the time english natiolists like to convenatnlty forget

    • @T0T4LG4MER5
      @T0T4LG4MER5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Tommy-5684 Not really, If anything the 'glorious revolution '1688 and events such as the battle of the Boyne is seen as being a vital part of English Nationalism and Identity. Just look at the Orange Order to see how some people revere WIlliam III as a hero.

    • @tribblier
      @tribblier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      English-Dutch union would have been such a great alternative history

    • @Swift-mr5zi
      @Swift-mr5zi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tommy-5684 The Dutch forget that we're the reason they're an independent nation, without our intervention in the 80 years war with De Vere the Dutch would have been crushed

    • @Arjonko
      @Arjonko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Swift-mr5zi what are you talking about? Do you mean Robert Dudley the governor who screwed everything up? The republic gave Vlissingen and Den Briel as collateral in exchange for military support. Under his command the following cities got sacked; Zutphen, Deventer, Brussel, Mechelen,Grave and Sluis. The English mercenaries even defected towards the Spanish. His policies on trade led to a financial crisis. The English acted in their own interests and certainly were not the reason why the Dutch republic became independent.

  • @generalgrievous6689
    @generalgrievous6689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I worked with an Anthropology professor who wrote a book on railway lines created by the EIC. Very interesting topic.

    • @channel_void
      @channel_void 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hello there

    • @generalgrievous6689
      @generalgrievous6689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@channel_void Ah, General Kenobi *cough cough splutter splutter*

  • @marcelloherreshoff2163
    @marcelloherreshoff2163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Minor mistake: the map at 2:15 shows a gap between Africa and the Middle East, but I don't think the Suez Canal had been built yet. This stuck out, because that scene was about the Portuguese having to sail around Africa to get to India, and I was all " wait, but why didn't they go the short way... Oh."

    • @THATotherGUY415
      @THATotherGUY415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Construction started in 1859 and finished around 1869 or 1870

  • @noeswantra2295
    @noeswantra2295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Sidenote on the Dutch East India Company (VOC) & Indonesia, compared to the Mughals & India, that I was surprised you guys didn't mention out:
    The situation in Indonesia of 17th century was far more easy to be dealt with compared to India at that time, since the Mughals were at their height of the power. Meanwhile in Indonesia there were numerous smaller Islamic kingdoms that were just starting to rise after the chaotic 16th century. The 1500s saw the demise of both Majapahit Empire (that EC did a series couple of years ago!) and Malacca Sultanate (which was upended by the Portuguese). If Majapahit or Malacca wasn't destroyed, the Dutch might have also encountered a similar situation to what the Europeans faced in India: Forced to sign one-sided trade deals with a local hegemonic power, instead of leveraging their trade power and pitting small local kingdoms against each other.

    • @jokehu7115
      @jokehu7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      G E K O L O N I S E E R D

    • @arnoutjuh97
      @arnoutjuh97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They did explain this: @5:42

    • @ihl0700677525
      @ihl0700677525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Bear in mind that the Netherlands, altho smaller, was significantly wealthier than the kingdom of Portugal. They also had advanced economic system (e.g. concept such as Stock Exchange originated either in the Netherlands or Italy).
      In fact, in the 17th century, the Low countries (Dutch Republic, Austrian Netherlands, and Spanish Netherlands) had comparable population (~6 millions) to the whole Spice Islands (~8 millions).
      Above all, VOC did not just willy nilly attack local rulers and commit piracy like the Portuguese. The Dutch were shrewd merchant, who put their mercantile interest above religious and political supremacy.
      Wherever the Spanish or the Portuguese rule, they forcibly convert local people into their culture and religion, not the case with the Dutch.

    • @rithvik119am6
      @rithvik119am6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for calling Indian strong as you must in those times

    • @adarshmohapatra5058
      @adarshmohapatra5058 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love how you know both the Indian and Indonesian political situation at this time. Really offers some perspective.

  • @thebaconavenger8876
    @thebaconavenger8876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Interestingly, the English Crown(and subsequently the EIC) only got possesion of Mumbai because of a Political marriage between portugal and England. When I think about the British Conquest of India I just think "damn if I ever was so lucky myself"

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    2:55 - Portugal speaking to Brazil: "See now, son?! If you want your gold back, talk to India. Stop bothering me with that story..."

    • @luizfelipepereirafigueired4523
      @luizfelipepereirafigueired4523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And part of the Gold was send to the british

    • @saintpinewood562
      @saintpinewood562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most of the gold stayed in the colony. The royal taxation in Brazil was of 20% of the total annual gold extraction. The remaining wealth was due to be kept in Brazil for the development of the cities and infrastructures.

  • @thfab4831
    @thfab4831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    As a dutch person myself i approve of this episode.

    • @superzigzagoon
      @superzigzagoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      As a British person, I also approve of this episode

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As an Italian i also approve this episode

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Steven Universe i absolutely agree

    • @jokehu7115
      @jokehu7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Zeg makker, kokosnoten zijn geen specerijen

    • @freeplex589
      @freeplex589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Steven Universe stop talking crap

  • @abysspect
    @abysspect 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    You're telling me the cyberpunk corporate dominated future dystopia we all dread is coming in the next ~30 years has _already happened!?_
    Time really is a flat circle. I mean we already have pirates, at least.

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Spicepunk

    • @pax6833
      @pax6833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yup, and it's literally just *the worst*
      don't ever let ancaps sell you on the idea of letting corporations dominate the world

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@pax6833 Don't call them "ancaps", call them for what they are: Neo-Feudalists...

    • @sounakchatterjer4158
      @sounakchatterjer4158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ccricers Done already.The spice must flow bud

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A period appropriate re-imagining of cyberpunk tropes would be rad, though

  • @x-treme9248
    @x-treme9248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Fun fact the east india company which was present in india for over 2 century is now a cake shop in london
    And is controlled by a indian

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I just searched that I LOVE THIS WORD

    • @jasonhaven7170
      @jasonhaven7170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's awesome

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Hudson Bay Company which dominated the fur trade in Anglo North America is now analgous to a Macy's or Nordstrom's in Canada

    • @bbirda1287
      @bbirda1287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hurgcat omg is that correct? The clothing company is what's left? how the wheel turns. (not looking forward to Wheel of Time tv series incidentally)

    • @eyeofthepyramid2596
      @eyeofthepyramid2596 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a tea shop

  • @TheAnon03
    @TheAnon03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:45 Here in England we don't spend a lot of time on the EIC but when we do we usually skip over the American and Caribbean bits and focus on the Indian bit.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      EC can be quite lax and ignorant with their research at times.

    • @shambhav9534
      @shambhav9534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tams805 Yeah, that is what I've noticed as well. They find something and then don't go deeper than that and work with that shallow research.

    • @Anurag-xe2jp
      @Anurag-xe2jp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny thing is EIC isn't taught about much in India (at least when I studied). It's usually the Mughal and some other empires and then fast forwarded to 1857 (the year of Indian revolt against EIC and the British monarch directly taking over).

    • @jhonshephard921
      @jhonshephard921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Anurag-xe2jp In Pakistan we did learn about the EIC but not too much. Basically we are told about their fight with Aurangzeb, the battle of Panipath and how they forced themselves upon Sindh cause they got their ass handed to them in Afghanistan and then we move to 1857 and its effects including Muslims getting most of the blame which is cited as the reason Muslims didn't learn English or work with the Indian civil service in the Raj and for the founding of Aligrah College to mitigate that, which then leads into the All India Muslim League and Pakistan.

    • @idontusecryptocurrency5870
      @idontusecryptocurrency5870 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jhonshephard921 ohh they dont teach last part or sindh part in india they focus mostly on british conquest of bengal.
      Then a little about rebellion then straight to 1919=non cooperation movement khilafat movement jhalliawala bagh etc.
      And before these they teach a little bit about marathas then about mughals ruler from baber to aurangzeb,before that vijaynagar empire bahamani etc.And before that delhi sultanate then chola gupta maurya etc. Big empires of india

  • @rennor3498
    @rennor3498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    And when you take into consideration that the Mughal Empire did not even exist when the Portuguese arrived in India,this simply makes the British defeat even more humiliating.

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The tastiest defeat i ever heard about

    • @freeplex589
      @freeplex589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Boretheory stop talking crap

    • @freeplex589
      @freeplex589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Britain conquered india though

    • @idontusecryptocurrency5870
      @idontusecryptocurrency5870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@freeplex589 yep after mughal lost to marathas and marathas lost to afghans😀 and by that time europe gained much more tech advantage and india got in same situation as Indonesia which is small kingdoms

    • @dwarasamudra8889
      @dwarasamudra8889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True, between 1400 and 1500, Northern India was divided into several large and wealthy Kingdoms like the Muzaffarids of Gujarat, Tomaras of Bundelkhand, Sharqis of Uttar Pradesh, Gajapatis of Odisha, Hussain Shahis of Bengal and Bihar, Shahmiris of Kashmir, Sisodias of Mewar, Ahoms of Assam and Adil Shahis of Maharashtra. Southern India, however, was ruled by the large Vijayanagara Empire which controlled the port city of Calicut or Kozhikode (with the Zamorin as a ceremonial leader) where Vasco de Gama docked.

  • @Canhistoryismylife
    @Canhistoryismylife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The spice must flow

  • @apookatzgaming8770
    @apookatzgaming8770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved the crop up of Vlad Dracula observing the beheaded man on a pole and thinking" Hey, I could kill all by Boyars that way!"

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dracula lived before this era

  • @sarasamaletdin4574
    @sarasamaletdin4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You should make a video (maybe not enough material for a series) on Scottish Darian scheme and how Scottland became a part of UK permanently.

  • @DieNibelungenliad
    @DieNibelungenliad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yeah, there were many companies back in the day.
    Here in Canada, the English had the Hudson Bay Company and down in the Carribean, the Dutch had the West Indies Company. Even the French had the Frenxh East India Company, which employed local soldiers just like how the British East India Company would do later

  • @theartkid7226
    @theartkid7226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WAIT WHAT I JUST SUBSCRIBED TO YOU WONDERING WHEN THE NEXT VIDEO ON INDIA WAS GOING TO COME OUT AND IT'S OUT NOW WOAAAAAHHHHH

  • @NICK8333
    @NICK8333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Video Idea: The First Balkan War
    Love the video!!

  • @gadhviviraj9172
    @gadhviviraj9172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This will be a really fun series to watch, to know what I ignored in my history class...

  • @timolianischtimo9305
    @timolianischtimo9305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Do you have a upload schedule? I want to know when to expect new vids. They're really fun to watch

    • @PalmelaHanderson
      @PalmelaHanderson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Extra History comes out on Saturdays. Not sure what the schedule is for their other series.

    • @naeemullah6976
      @naeemullah6976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PalmelaHanderson thank you for the info because i am always desperate for their history videos

  • @liangflrs02
    @liangflrs02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Please don't let Elon Musk see this, he already owns twitter and now he's going to want to do get a real life lego army to do this on Mars.

    • @liangflrs02
      @liangflrs02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @dirt420 bruh we are going to end up with gundams 😆

  • @CodaMission
    @CodaMission 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:15 If anyone is wondering about the Darien Scheme, basically Scotland tried to fund the founding of a colony in Panama, and sunk half the country's budget into the venture. Only once they got there, they realize that not only are Scots not suited to the jungle and Malaria, they also settled on a spot the Spanish claimed. England basically turned to Scotland and said "hey, we'll assume the debt if you join with us as a single nation". Thus, the Acts of Union gave birth to Great Britain

  • @ihatemotionblur_3255
    @ihatemotionblur_3255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's just fascinating how Wellesley took over SO much of India after admittedly very difficult wars with the mysorians and the marathas.

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean Clive?

    • @ihatemotionblur_3255
      @ihatemotionblur_3255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yj9032 A mistake on my part; Wellesley was only responsible for the Maratha wars, while the Mysorian wars were done with the governor-general Cornwallis. Also Clive was only responsible for a few battles and peace treaties not taking over large swathes of land.

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't Wellesley say Assaye was his finest victory? I heard that somewhere, please correct me If I am wrong.

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    6:37 British Spies, Dutch Traders, Japanese Ronin and Torture? How isn't this a big budget film?

  • @CactusJackIV
    @CactusJackIV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love the channel, keep up the awesome work!! Have a great Halloween(tomorrow, today or both)

  • @fishconnoisseur
    @fishconnoisseur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got to teach with this today! I used 4:40 to tell the history of LLCs

  • @PeterDebney
    @PeterDebney ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One slight correction to this excellent video: the East India Company was named and set up to “venter in the pretended voiage to ye Est Indies and other Ilands and Cuntries thereabouts there to make trade…”
    In other words, their primary target was the East Indies, or Indonesia as we now know it. Failing to beat the Dutch then led to the trade with the Mughals as an afterthought.
    It is no accident that India and Indonesia / East Indies have similar names. They are all named after the Indus River, which is in modern day Pakistan. India meant ‘beyond the Indus’ and is, what we would now call, south and south east Asia.

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Audience promo code is EXTRACREDITS - which gives 40% off of any annual membership on checkout.
    www.worldanvil.com/extracredits

  • @miguelsilva1446
    @miguelsilva1446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wait a minute you say Portuguese settled in India with the permission of the mughals?
    But the Portuguese had a lot of possessions in India before the mughals came...

    • @ishanbajpai6940
      @ishanbajpai6940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They didn't, Mughals were not rulling India when the Portuguese came, they were permitted to start trading by the Vijaynagar empire who gave the Portuguese land for building ports and trading.

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ishanbajpai6940 and they took some territories from the Bijapur Sultanate too

    • @hannah-yr7bp
      @hannah-yr7bp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ishanbajpai6940 and they also fought kerala and won

  • @imbarmstrong
    @imbarmstrong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I believe the VOC still remains the most valuable company of all time (if measured in modern currency)

  • @todorvujcic5115
    @todorvujcic5115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Greatest team to tell us history

    • @vovoghurejhor8784
      @vovoghurejhor8784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      check out their other narrator from the past.he was the best.

    • @runajain5773
      @runajain5773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is good but there is error in histroy

  • @joshuafrimpong244
    @joshuafrimpong244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    India: Come and buy our goods
    Netherlands: Nah m8, we good
    India: We have spices...
    Netherlands: GEKOLONISEERD

  • @CliffCardi
    @CliffCardi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Next episode: who would win: 18th century French Army at their strongest? Or some wet gunpowder?

  • @MultiSciGeek
    @MultiSciGeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is well researched but presented in such a simple and concise manner.
    Your channel is really good at sharing perspectives and capturing the true essence of a historical topic.

  • @bbirda1287
    @bbirda1287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Looks like Lies is going to be a 2 parter this time, lol.

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see more episodes on Dutch exploits during this era. Thank you for the interesting content as always!
    Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends! :)

  • @CosmicAggressor
    @CosmicAggressor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    So are we keeping the talking arm chair? I am hoping it's existance ends with this particular series.

    • @fareezamanzur-abdulmajid278
      @fareezamanzur-abdulmajid278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But he’s a new character, and Extra History should save Army for a series on the colonization of the Americas by the Spaniards and the Portuguese.

  • @trenza2566
    @trenza2566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been looking for this video for one week

  • @tylerboyce4081
    @tylerboyce4081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    6:30 Hang on, there was a time in history when British merchants and Japanese ronin teamed up to conduct espionage in Dutch-controlled Indonesia?!? Why the heck isn't someone making *that* film?!?

    • @thethirdsicily4802
      @thethirdsicily4802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just you wait till you see the Spanish Conquistadors and Aztecs fighting against Ronin and Filipino warriors.

  • @lance.2
    @lance.2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Dont tell daddy Bezos that this has a historical precedent"

  • @Dovah22
    @Dovah22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I got a feeling Amazons CEO already has a PMC in his back pocket, right next to the “blackmail Brandon” button.

    • @subjekt5577
      @subjekt5577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...Who's brandon?

    • @Dovah22
      @Dovah22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@subjekt5577 the potato in chief

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d say they’re perfect for each other

    • @Crazdor
      @Crazdor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dovah22 That might have been clever if you knew how to spell potato.

    • @Dovah22
      @Dovah22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Crazdor i was half awake when i typed that.

  • @yourethatmantis5178
    @yourethatmantis5178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was kind of hoping Armie was going to be a one-time thing.

  • @Figgy_Jub
    @Figgy_Jub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's pretty insane to think companies once were capable of having their own armies and navies... Imagine that today...

  • @patrioticchild5570
    @patrioticchild5570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Alright we rip on the armchair historian, but what about THE armchair historian, the channel I mean

    • @marcus4046
      @marcus4046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      has he done a video on the history of armchairs?

    • @dnlowithstripes
      @dnlowithstripes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, I really hope this isn't a poke at him, the dude and his team do an amazing work on their videos too.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@dnlowithstripes What makes you think about that? "Armchair [insert field]" is a colloquial term for dilettante, meant to be an insult to that person's (lack of) grasp of a certain field. It's pretty much a generic term for Dunning-Krueger "experts"...

  • @grapeshott
    @grapeshott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will write this under every video of this series- MAKE A TOTAL WAR GAME ON THIS TIME PERIOD, EXCLUSIVELY ON INDIA

  • @Velocity_AU
    @Velocity_AU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching this is giving me a rare looking into a part of my ancestry that I know little about, being my Dutch side. Im Australian born, with heritage going to England, the Netherlands, and Indonesia, with my Dutch side escaping to places like Australia after the concentration camps created in Indonesia during WW2. So the Dutch you're talking about in Indonesia very well maybe some of my earliest ancestors

  • @paul5475
    @paul5475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the main reason why China Korea and Japan was so Persimistic about Weatern and fearing influencing them. Because of India, once a powerful and economically ruboost empire fall in the hands of the British

  • @lightningstrike5024
    @lightningstrike5024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Writer: How much copium do you want in this video series?
    Producer: *Yes*

  • @jonathanmcalister4423
    @jonathanmcalister4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would love to see a Portuguese history episode someday.

    • @Eoniclipse
      @Eoniclipse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right? So much God damn history to cover..
      One of the biggest empires of the 1600s that is nothing but a shadow now.. only remnants of the language and culture remain, being Merged with local cultures

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting!?

  • @Shinzon23
    @Shinzon23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah, as someone who has an interest in history, its always highly amusing to me that somehow Tiny itty-bitty Little Britain managed to take over so much of the world

  • @SkinFlint_
    @SkinFlint_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    3:26 This is true
    Greetings from a Dutchman.

  • @rosant7074
    @rosant7074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:46
    Nice reference to Vlad III

  • @natashaeliot3628
    @natashaeliot3628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In UK schooling I only ever learnt about the EIC in the context of India

    • @jhonshephard921
      @jhonshephard921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As someone educated in Pakistan, how do they cover the war of 1857? Rani of Jahansi, Bahadur Shah II, Mangal Pandey and all that?

  • @thenectorgodable
    @thenectorgodable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Correction Needed* The siege you are referring to started on February 15,1689 and not in April 1619. Forts of Bombay came into the hands of British on 11th May 1661 as dowry to Charles II.

  • @Buzterer
    @Buzterer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At some point we are going to need a series on the dutch during this period

  • @battlebrothertifesrolilios4423
    @battlebrothertifesrolilios4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The British empire is one of the most apt examples of "Rome wasn't built in a day".

  • @nananananananananana1926
    @nananananananananana1926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I told Daddy Bezos that companies having soldiers is a historical precedence.

    • @tlhm7102
      @tlhm7102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hol' up.

    • @unclekanethetiberiummain1994
      @unclekanethetiberiummain1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn, Pepsi could've have dominated the world if they didn't scrap those ships that were given to them by the Soviets.

    • @quietone610
      @quietone610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any security force that has men in every city can be seen as a shadow military.

  • @maxpower7113
    @maxpower7113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an American with Dutch roots, this video made me very happy.

  • @ihatemotionblur_3255
    @ihatemotionblur_3255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the mughal empire DIDNT exist in 1498. The kings which the portugeuse met were the Zamorins of Calicut, a city state based on trade, similar to the city states of italy in that period. (of course being Indian made them much richer)

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Italy in that period was among the richest place in the world though

    • @ihatemotionblur_3255
      @ihatemotionblur_3255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoName-hg6cc Yeah thats why I said being Indian made them even richer

  • @jibran_r7
    @jibran_r7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I love this channel

  • @DomyTheMad420
    @DomyTheMad420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:02 *throws hands up and looks at the Dutch flag i have hanging*
    V.O.C! V.O.C! V.O.C!
    GIVE ME YOUR SPICES AND COCONUTS

  • @msxavier8519
    @msxavier8519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The portuguese didn't find the mughals but rather a bunch of indian kingdoms such as the sultanate of Gujarat and the sultanate of Bijapur. The mughals only come later, in 1526.

  • @sully-kun3402
    @sully-kun3402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:48 The city was called Batavia back then

  • @christopherlin4409
    @christopherlin4409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite history channel

  • @MrT3a
    @MrT3a 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I want an episode on "The Dutch, what went wrong"

  • @VikingLord101
    @VikingLord101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like where Extra History is now covering these new topic hope the team is doing good

  • @charleslarrivee2908
    @charleslarrivee2908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to hearing about Nader Shah in the next video

    • @jayantjha3128
      @jayantjha3128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nader shah would come very late.

  • @shawnheatherly
    @shawnheatherly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Dutch/British comparison got a good laugh out of me.

  • @andrewvarney5687
    @andrewvarney5687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving this series, also I enjoyed the random Vlad cameo!!!

  • @andrewnewell1142
    @andrewnewell1142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Play “John Company” to get an idea of the forces that conquered India

  • @willp2906
    @willp2906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey King George, what's the opposite of tea? YEET.

  • @zrhrrs
    @zrhrrs ปีที่แล้ว

    From what i can gather, the siege of Bombay described happens in 1689-90, not 1619.

  • @gmosphere
    @gmosphere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The East India Company reads like a dystopian megacorp

  • @purplewarrior1830
    @purplewarrior1830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an Indian, I'm psyched for this series

  • @Manuel-gk3rv
    @Manuel-gk3rv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please make a series about the VOC!

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    man this was chock full of fine historical information

  • @mohdauzan6206
    @mohdauzan6206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video as always extra credits!

  • @Kratosfallinmemeiscool
    @Kratosfallinmemeiscool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:10 beware, the amazon gestapo

  • @indianinja420
    @indianinja420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please talk about the Anglo-Maratha wars. I'll be very sad if you don't, cause most history channels always leave them out :(

  • @bethmarriott9292
    @bethmarriott9292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "BARBOSSA!!! MARRY US!!!"
    "I'M A LITTLE BUSY AT THE MOMENT"

  • @SafavidAfsharid3197
    @SafavidAfsharid3197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Portuguese didn't come to india during the Mughal empire. They came to the kingdom to Calicut and become allies with the vijayanagara empire which capital was said to the greatest during the time. They also recorded the famous 4th vijayanagara-gajapati war. They also took goa from Bijapur sultanate and were responsible for goan inquisition.

  • @GeroldGarthcia
    @GeroldGarthcia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Remember that darkest timeline where the world is donated my multinational corporations?" I'm sorry to tell you this extracredits but we're in that timeline.

  • @andromeda331
    @andromeda331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @rajivjamuar3536
    @rajivjamuar3536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow we have this in class and your way better