When Does A Language Go Extinct?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มี.ค. 2024
- This video seeks to classify the types of extinct (or "dead") languages into a new categorical system relatively free from confusion.
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It pains me so much that Etruscan would probably be a revivable language if only Claudius’ Etruscan dictionary managed to survive
Yeah man, Etruscan feels too cool to be lost. We need to conduct more thorough searches across the continent.
There's still a chance it will be found one day, technically
@@kamalkrishnabaral What if it's related to Basque?
We don't have evidence... The few vocabulary we know of etruscan has not shown any apparent relationship with basque words.
There's a non-zero chance that it survives as a charred scroll from Herculanem.
I speak Eteocypriot.
Of course, back then we called it "Anmatumiama" or "Language of the Amathusans."
I'm secretly thousands of years old, and from Cyprus originally. I'm free to say it as no one would really believe me lol.
I was born in 11th century BC, so I'm actually an L2 speaker, and I'm a bit rusty, so maybe "speak" is a strong word. Not fluent anymore.
I knew this guy, Tora, back then. I dont remember much about him except his name tho. It's been too long.
It's really a curse. My mind cannot keep track of much more than 50 years of memories, only fragments of the thousands that have passed me by, unable to move past this world.
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gothic actually is undergoing a revival, and I'd go so far as to say there are fluent l2 speakers as much as one could be in an ancient language adapted to the modern day. its worth looking into, considering different revival communities have had schisms on things such as extensive use of reconstructions, calques, and neologisms
True, but I think it's important to make a distinction from a revived language and an unproductive noncontinuous or cessated revivable language. A revived language is something like Eyak or Livonian, where the original speaker community has put in a concerted effort through community education and regular upkeep of the language with youth in order to bring back the language crucially for an L1 population. Contrast this with unproductive noncontinuous, which like Old English, is revived to some extent due to academic and personal fun purposes. I agree with your statement on the Gothic revival, but I put it in Cessated Revivable instead of Unproductive Noncontinuous because the academic/hobby group of learners is significantly smaller. It is possible that Gothic could be revived in a traditional sense, but another part of the issue is that there are still English people that could potentially want to revive Old English, but there really isn't a descendant East Germanic ethnicity anymore. I thought about where I would put Gothic when I was brainstorming this video, and for these reasons I feel most appropriate putting it in cessated revivable.
@@ConnorQuimbyas far as I understand, there's a similar problem with Prussian ethnicity, still there are at least several families with bilingual children
@ConnorQuimby I actually paused the video to think about whether gothic would be a cessated language or unproductive language, and then as soon as I unpaused you said gothic, lol. Maybe one day...
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There are children who speak Prussian?
@@JoffesThoughts I've read about it in this paper:
Language Practices in a Family of Prussian Language Revivalists
Dacian: Bygone Residual, almost Unresidual practically.
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I wonder if any languages with video attestations (beyond, say, a linguist recording an elderly speaker sing a few songs) have gone extinct lately. Like if a feature film was made in a language to prevent it from "dying" but didn't help, and now is dated forever
Continuing with my mortality series, at what point do we consider a language to be “dead”, or “extinct”?
This cateogorization of language death and types of non-living languages is a very good one. You might be interested that this sort of differentiation actually has use in a rather niche topic within philosophy: revival of extinct species. I am studying philosophy at an university and I am writing a brief essay for one of my courses using your video as a source.
Looking forwards to seeing the rest of your work on this topic.
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That was a great video, because it gave me an existential crisis.
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You should try studying the “Enochian” language. Apparently it is the language of the angels according to some medieval english magicians or something. Really fascinating language, whether it is really the language of angels or just made up by nerds in medieval times is up for debate.
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Realized all my conlangs function like antidiluvian langueges.
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Well, to begin with, the thumbnail of this video has the word "languages" misspelled as "langauges"
Ah good point I didn't notice that, paint.net doesn't have spell check, thanks!
I love the categories. Hated the names.
It also tells us about the "antiquity of the language."
All living languages are constantly changing, and therefore they are constantly "resetting" their age. I recently talked about this with one person, I will give my comment here:
If a language has 3-5 native speakers, and they have all been sleeping for 5 hours, and have no dreams in this language, then yes - the language has been for 5 hours! And only those languages that are dead and unremembered “increase” their age. The more the language is used, the more it changes. Latin, according to this model, is a second.
(sorry if it's written clumsily, it's a machine translation)
The terminology is a little cumbersome, but I like this more gradual scale of language death.
where would you place Sanskrit? Ir has been somewhat kept going in liturgical use.. at least to my understanding.
This is why Hebrew should just be called a zombie language
it's quimbing time
Where would a con lang fit?
Asking the real questions, but still don't get why people chose de saussure over peirce tho😭😭😭
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More like when does a channel go extinct amirite folx
Thanks.
@@ConnorQuimby I realised this comment sounds like I want your channel to go extinct, but quite the opposite, I want to see you thrive. I love your videos and I hope you never cessate. Please don't take this comment as an indication that I'm waiting for your channel to die, I was just tryna be funny
Your "How To Make an Awful Conlang" is dead 🕯️