What would be a very corrosion resistant steel with very high edge retention and a good wear resistance? I would be using it as a hunting knife for deer where I would need the best edge retention along with corrosion resistance as the knife would be getting a lot of blood and other corrosive fluids from the animals in the processing procedure. Thx
Probably magnacut or s45vn , m390 may also work , also if your more concerned about corrosion resistance then lc200n, s30v and s35vn are very well rounded for hunting in my opinion Even bucks old 420 steel is great if your on a budget
Perhaps S90V. From a good heat treat company like Spyderco you might get an hrc of ~61 in a stainless steel. The trade off is low toughness. Bone contact could be a problem. The best is probably Magnacut in a good heat treat.
The point of the PM2 is fragile, no matter the steel. This is the only drawback of the PM2. It must be used with particular care. Excellent vid man 🖐😉!
1. That's a Para 3, not a PM2; 2. Any blade shape in this steel at this hardness will be brittle; 3. The distal taper is genius, hard use at the base, lightsaber at the tip, if you're old enough to use a knife you can figure out not to pry with the tip, or with a folding knife for that matter.
Talking about the tip of the pm2… I dropped a bento box exclusive pm2 in k390 tip down. It bent dramatically… it allowed me to almost bend it back straight and never broke. Yes, k 390 may be made of magic.
Love the Delica form factor. So slicey, no matter what steel it is in, due to the thin blade, and fits my small hand. Have a few VG-10 that have to be touched up now and then. If dmaging the tip, it just bends. Would love to try the 390 though :)
My EDCs are the Spyderco Stretch 2 in K390 in my pocket (I just can't get it out of there) and the Ladybug in K390 on my keychain. Love them both so much that I bought back ups.
I dont use soap on my k390 and mine looks great (I do strop the sides of the knife with my green paste strop to keep it shiny though) and then put a thin layer of KPI all over it
K390 is tougher and has less edge retention than Maxamet. Long story short 👍🏻 great video. Love k390 so far. Have endela’s,endura’s,police 4’s and 2 para 3 in 10v which is very close to K390.
Good video. Never had maxamet. I’d go delica in k390 cause I know I can strop it back. Not so sure about the higher hardness maxamet Also prefer the thinner stock on delica. For everyday stuff I slice, I don’t stab often.
I personally like touching up my knives, so i would never go beyond something like 154cm in edge retention, and this is the big one, where i live steels like k390, maxemet and magnacut are obscenely expensive , other wise id give one of these steels a try. PS. I can always hand any of my knives in a lesser steel like 14c28n to someone, and it'll be razor sharp
Maxamet is great I wish more models were made in it also it patinas nicely if you cut some raw chicken or meat/onions and leave it for a little while give it a wash and a oil
I can tell you keep your knives for show and not users which is fine cause im the same way with 90 percent of my knives. The reason i say that is because your Para 2 in MAXAMET looks brand new.
None of spydercos maxamet knives will test 70 hrc. 69 is is like finding a holographic Charizard as a kid most are 67-68. Also, vanadium carbides are harder than tungsten carbides believe it or not!
Vanadium carbides are stronger then tungsten? Where did you hear that? As far as I know there's only one element stronger then tungsten and it isn't vanadium.
@@jimmycricket7946also I said harder, not stronger. More wear resistance and hardness. Tungsten carbides are 70 ish HRC maybe slightly higher but definitely not 80 HRC
That rust will turn black eventually after cleaning with bartenders keep . Ends up looking pretty good imho . Takes a couple years naturally . I think they look better a little worn in . I’m not an edge retention queen either but I’ve noticed the difference using a better steel . It’s liking having a turbo in a v6 😊
14c28n is a tough steel, definitely tougher than both maxamet and k390. It won’t hold the edge like them, but it’s the closest to Magnacut steel. Vanadis 8 and K390 are very close steels. K390 is tougher than maxamet. Maxamet is second to Rex 121 in edge retention.
K390 👍 Boiled vinegar bath for a nice patina works wonders. Patina and then a nice oil with Ballistal etc. I'm in the PNW and have no problems.
Good to hear!
Thanks for the information!
What would be a very corrosion resistant steel with very high edge retention and a good wear resistance? I would be using it as a hunting knife for deer where I would need the best edge retention along with corrosion resistance as the knife would be getting a lot of blood and other corrosive fluids from the animals in the processing procedure. Thx
Probably magnacut or s45vn , m390 may also work , also if your more concerned about corrosion resistance then lc200n, s30v and s35vn are very well rounded for hunting in my opinion
Even bucks old 420 steel is great if your on a budget
Thank you@@Knifeandkompass77
Perhaps S90V. From a good heat treat company like Spyderco you might get an hrc of ~61 in a stainless steel. The trade off is low toughness. Bone contact could be a problem. The best is probably Magnacut in a good heat treat.
AEBL... Check it out at higher Rockwell hardnessses. Do a little reading on that stuff, it has amazing edge stability and strops back with total ease.
I’ve chipped Maxamet on a para3 lw just taking the staples out of my pay stub🤦♂️ sharpened out though 👍🏻 very small chip
Oh ouch!
The point of the PM2 is fragile, no matter the steel. This is the only drawback of the PM2. It must be used with particular care. Excellent vid man 🖐😉!
Hey thx a lot I appreciate that greatly!
I have 6 pm2s in many different steels, I have never had a problem with the tips, of course I don't use them to pry things
1. That's a Para 3, not a PM2;
2. Any blade shape in this steel at this hardness will be brittle;
3. The distal taper is genius, hard use at the base, lightsaber at the tip, if you're old enough to use a knife you can figure out not to pry with the tip, or with a folding knife for that matter.
Talking about the tip of the pm2… I dropped a bento box exclusive pm2 in k390 tip down. It bent dramatically… it allowed me to almost bend it back straight and never broke. Yes, k 390 may be made of magic.
Love the Delica form factor. So slicey, no matter what steel it is in, due to the thin blade, and fits my small hand. Have a few VG-10 that have to be touched up now and then. If dmaging the tip, it just bends. Would love to try the 390 though :)
I love my vg10 delica still use it all the time
But yes this k390 is on another level level for edge retention
@@Knifeandkompass77 When i first got VG10 it was hailed as a new super steel. Think how time flies. :)
@@tomt5745 yes! I know exactly what you mean back in those days 154cm,vg10,d2, and then s30v if you were “rich” lol
@@Knifeandkompass77 D2 was unobtainable when new. was a poor uni student, saving up for instant noodles in them small bags ;)
Have had good luck with EDCi on K390.
My EDCs are the Spyderco Stretch 2 in K390 in my pocket (I just can't get it out of there) and the Ladybug in K390 on my keychain. Love them both so much that I bought back ups.
Rex76 is close on the HRC rating as Maxamet. Someone poked a mule team and got 69.3 hrc. Good stuff 😊
I dont use soap on my k390 and mine looks great (I do strop the sides of the knife with my green paste strop to keep it shiny though) and then put a thin layer of KPI all over it
K390 is tougher and has less edge retention than Maxamet. Long story short 👍🏻 great video. Love k390 so far. Have endela’s,endura’s,police 4’s and 2 para 3 in 10v which is very close to K390.
Sharpening on Diamond stones are for people that don't use their knives or maintain properly. Ideally you never sharpen. But only maintain.
Good video.
Never had maxamet. I’d go delica in k390 cause I know I can strop it back. Not so sure about the higher hardness maxamet
Also prefer the thinner stock on delica. For everyday stuff I slice, I don’t stab often.
Love the native 5 in maxamet. I own 2 now
And WD-40 rust so keep that in mind, I would use like a gun oil or knife oil
I personally like touching up my knives, so i would never go beyond something like 154cm in edge retention, and this is the big one, where i live steels like k390, maxemet and magnacut are obscenely expensive , other wise id give one of these steels a try.
PS. I can always hand any of my knives in a lesser steel like 14c28n to someone, and it'll be razor sharp
Maxamet is great I wish more models were made in it also it patinas nicely if you cut some raw chicken or meat/onions and leave it for a little while give it a wash and a oil
Cemented carbides....👏
Birchwood Casey Gun Blue works wonders
manix 2 lw in rex45 for $150 on gp knives
Is Rex 45 more of a longer lasting edge retention then Maxamet.
I can tell you keep your knives for show and not users which is fine cause im the same way with 90 percent of my knives. The reason i say that is because your Para 2 in MAXAMET looks brand new.
Honestly I’m just weary to use it
Unless there is cardboard around
I tend to heavily use my cheaper stuff
None of spydercos maxamet knives will test 70 hrc. 69 is is like finding a holographic Charizard as a kid most are 67-68. Also, vanadium carbides are harder than tungsten carbides believe it or not!
Vanadium carbides are stronger then tungsten? Where did you hear that? As far as I know there's only one element stronger then tungsten and it isn't vanadium.
@@jimmycricket7946look it up. I'm saying strictly the carbides, not straight vanadium vs tungsten. Vanadium carbides can be 80+ HRC
@@jimmycricket7946also I said harder, not stronger. More wear resistance and hardness. Tungsten carbides are 70 ish HRC maybe slightly higher but definitely not 80 HRC
That rust will turn black eventually after cleaning with bartenders keep . Ends up looking pretty good imho . Takes a couple years naturally . I think they look better a little worn in . I’m not an edge retention queen either but I’ve noticed the difference using a better steel . It’s liking having a turbo in a v6 😊
Spyderco discontinued a bunch of wharncliffes, because they didn‘t sell. And your girlfriend is wrong😉
Lol I’ll let her know .. maybe
Some one's girlfriend is wrong? I've never heard of such a thing.
You washing it with water is the problem wash it with oil only
I grew up in Japan. It's definitely pronounced Seh - kee.
14c28n is a tough steel, definitely tougher than both maxamet and k390. It won’t hold the edge like them, but it’s the closest to Magnacut steel. Vanadis 8 and K390 are very close steels. K390 is tougher than maxamet. Maxamet is second to Rex 121 in edge retention.
Those who are fans of 14c should check out high hardness AEBL. Especially if you enjoy sharpening, it takes an INSANE edge.
@@ElonaldTrusk they're basically the same thing
Sage 5 maxamet is out 👍🏻
Oh then i need to get on that