RAID for anything other than compiling ONE LARGE FILE is useless. Always has been. But people have the right to think for themselves (regardless how wrong they are). One drive goes bad, your RAID is toast. Good job!! RAID also doesn't help in gaming, storage or anything other than compiling a massive file.
THANK YOU for this video! Was curious to try the setup that you initially had, but I think the limitation is the x570 chipset/ or motherboard vendor. Nice to add m.2 nvme drives to the system, but not worth the instability in raid.
Great review! Good luck with ASUS working with you, my ticket with them has been in for 2 weeks and no support has been offered yet. I picked up the ver 2 and the ver 4 of these cards on Amazon. First began testing on an Asus X-570 Gaming Plus Wifi / AMD 5 3xxx series and never could get it to see more than 2 drives. Played with that about a week with no love. Then I decided to try it on my Ryzen 9 same mobo minus the wifi and it was absolutely no prob seeing all four drives. (same bios settings) I am using several different NVMe's and it sees anything I throw in the hyper card. When I tried to Raid it using "Asus" I got no where and eventually blew up my OS and had to reload Windows so the next time (if) I will use Windows to try a raid. My boot drive is a Sabrent Rocket PCIe 4 so reloading Windows is pretty fast and getting the updates over a gig network isn't too bad. On the Ryzen 9 PC, I've put an old 512k generic video card (2nd PCIE slot cant find any Win10 drivers for it) but it allows me to see the screen. As I said, once I turned on the bifornification which lists it at 8x8, I had no problem. Back on the Ryzen 5 PC, nothing but 2 drives can be seen. I used both the built in video and a card in the 2nd slot. I did run across a chart from ASUS when it listed the CPU's needed but I thought I read all 3000 series were good to go but I may be mistaken. That said I do have a Ryzen 3 sitting over in the corner that I may try it with but it's on a MSI B450 mobo or something non ASUS so I may have to pull the chip off and put it on the 570 wifi motherboard. The whole point I am trying to get to is setting up my DAW with all NVMe's so that I can run hugh plugin's much faster. Thats one machine I dont really want to "test" this product on until I know it will be successful on the first try. Currently it is a MSI x570 / Ryzen 7 setup. Did you by chance hear back from ASUS? I was looking for the 2nd video you mentioned in this one but wasn't able to find it. Anyways, back to testing... have a great day and stay healthy.
Totally agree that folks shouldn't put an OS on any RAID setup. Folk should always remember that standard SSD speeds today are such that 'read throughput' (the marketing 'headline' speed you always see) is NOWHERE near as critical for any OS than the RND4k speeds - at Q1T1, and the latency e.g. at 11:04 the crucial OS factors are 61.76 (Q1T1) and 66.19(us, latency). Your OS - and standard app suites on that C drive (e.g. MS Office) load speeds will benefit far more if these factors can be made faster - since most OS and C-drive app loads are at or below 4k in size. Unfortunately, manufacturers are far more concerned with the headline sequential read speeds - while they have increased nicely over recent years, the 4k Q1 and latency speeds have remained shockingly low. Of course, a large PCIe-4 RAID-0 setup using the latest gen4 NVME SSD's do, of course, have their niche uses. Just make sure you, as a user, will benefit...!!! On the subject of more PCIe lanes, it would be good for AMD to reduce the Threadripper cost entry point (Intel were/are clearly struggling to compete here).
I have never witnessed a human memorize benchmark write/read techniques before. (The references in the whole 1st quarter of your paragraph). But, I guess if you do something enough, the info sticks. You could've simplified the O/S details and just said, an O/S on a SATA SSD is more than enough for its performance. RAID M.2 SSDs or SATA SSDs is great for compiling videos, but is useless for nearly anything else. You need to write one massive file to benefit from RAID. As a computer engineer and coming from being a computer technician for over 30 years, I have NEVER needed a RAID setup. I only catalog films, discographies and games. I've seen people use RAID for gaming and storage back in the 486 days, the single core processor days (up to x64) and currently. It gives no benefit for these purposes. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't stop it from drowning itself, I suppose. 😑
You were definitely suffering from being cutting edge 11 months ago. I just picked up the same asus card, 2 x inland 2tb pcie v3 m.2 nvme (~$500 total) and had it running as a 4tb raid 0 striped drive in less than an hour. So Windows 10 Pro seems to have all the drivers it needs now. Planning on getting 2 more cards to push the stripe and capacity further.
@@ChrisHufnagel_Polymath Thanks Chris. I could not get mine to work. Trying a gigabyte X570 now with the ver 4 Hyper card. lol. The ver 2 of the card works fine in my MSI X-570 and sees all 4 drives no problem.
@@ChrisHufnagel_Polymath BTW, just ordered the GIGABYTE X570S AERO G from Amazon. If I cant get the Hyper Gen 4 working at least I can put all 4 of the M.2 Rockers right on the motherboard lol
Having a "scratch drive" that gives me all my media on a super-speed drive, cuts my editing in half or less. BUT. I need a 40 lane CPU. 16 for my GPU, 16 for this card and 8 lanes for all my other Mother Board needs.
I have an ASROCK dual cpu motherboard and trying to setup exactly what you did. Wondering if you could share in detail the changing of BIOS settings. Thanjsy
So I picked this up for my Asus Prime X570 Pro. For this motherboard, it goes in the 2nd PCIE slot below the GPU and can map up to 2 NMVe drives. I didn't download any AMD Raid drivers or configure raid in the BIOS. Windows detected two new drives and I used Windows Disk Management to create a striped volume. Is there any downside to this? My benchmarks seem great. The two 1TB 970 Evo Plus in the Hyper M.2 get 6713 MB/s read and 6680 MB/s write, compared to 3570 MB/s read and 3310 MB/s write I get with my single 970 Evo Plus plugged directly into my motherboard.
raid 0 provides little advantage @ nvme speeds however less drive name clutter (single drive instead of multiple) i just like the idea as a "scratch" storage space for games or video production
Would be more interresting to see if it behaves "better" in linux, i was thinking of using one of these cards in conjuction with a hypervisor. Good info, keep it comming :)
An X570 board will not give an X16 socket with 4x 4x 4x 4x bifurcation. X570 has one X16 or two X8 sockets. Ryzen cpus need a graphics card in PCIe socket 1. Anything in the second socket drops sockets one and two to 8X. 8X would allow 4X 4X bifurcation and only two NVMe drives. To run four NVMe drives in raid 0 and clock 15000MB on GEN4 drives requires four drives on an TRX40 or WTX80E. Four of the second generation of GEN4 drives (7000MB) will clock 21000MB. If your on an X570 buy the Supermicro dual drive X8 AIC. $50.00
@@maxhughes5687 Seem's I read on Asus site that the X570 does. Then again my Asus motherboard doesn't show but 2 drives while the MSI motherboard sees all 4 drives at full speed.
@@benharmon7136 IDK how. AM4 only has 20 cpu lanes to the processor. One X16 and four lanes to the M.2 socket. Four other lanes go to the chip set and are shared on other things. IDK. Interesting! Which MSI board are you using?
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Maybe I missed it in the description and throughout the review itself, but which version is it? I presume and hope that we're discussing the V2 iteration of this product. At any rate, thank you for an interesting product review which I have been eyeing for a little bit now. 👍🏻 Greetings from Scandinavia!
I wanna get this on an x570 and use four NVMe drives on the Hyper alongside a GPU, but everyone is saying different things about this card and I'm pretty confused by all of the drama.
You need an x570 board with x8/x8 PCIe interface and zen2/zen3 Ryzen CPU, if u have x570 that supports Nvidia's SLI then you are all set, it' not relevant otherwise SLI just requires at least x8/x8. For SSDs you can "officially" only use 2 NVMe in x8 mode (with GPU in that other x8 slot), you may get 4xNVMe (gen3) sorta working like in this video but it's not supported by Asus on x570. The reason for this that there are not enough PCIe lanes on x570, each NVMe takes up an x4 interface, you only have that x8. But, PCIe gen4 does offer 2 times the bandwidth of gen3, so technically you have x16 gen3 Bandwith in x8 interface so those gen3 drives should work, gen4 drives need entire x16 gen4 to work correctly. Hower can those gen3 drives operate at gen4 spec or does this card run in gen3 mode when using gen3 drives? That I don't know, I know it's possible but I don't know if that's the case.
Hi VexingVelvet, On paper the x570 chipset can do this. On execution, the problem becomes apparent. You have 1 x16 Slot. As soon as You use the 2nd Slot due to shared Resources that x16 Slot drops to x8. Each NVMe SSD Drive requires 4 PCIe Lanes. Hence a x16 Slot. If You can install video card in a x4 Slot, then a x16 card will work with 4 Drives. Otherwise, You need a self Bifurcated card that allows 4 Drives in a x8 slot. And that would be GloTrends Sky AIC which is only PCIe 3.0. There currently are no self Bifurcated PCIe 4.0 x8 AICs. They all require x16 Slot. Hassle. Hope that helps! This is a great Video!
I tried this and messed everything up. But I love the TECH PARTY. Give it your best shot! If you get it to work, give us an a,b,c,etc for your brand of mobo and bios. As Gill says, "it's in the details" bios revision # and make/model matters.
Reminds me of the dark old days when lots of things caused random crashes and hangs. Best move I made, back then, was to give up cobbling machines together myself, and instead just saved up and bought off the shelf machines from HP and Apple. Things are much better now, but it's interesting to see things can still catch people out when they do not work as expected. Good review, and summary.
@@user-account-not-found It is indeed. But the hard facts are that the Workstation and Server class of off-the-shelf machines, have millions spent on them to test that the components are all compatible and compliant with the OS. I am absolutely not a fan of anything Corporate but, the point I am making is when time is better spent using machines, than building them, reliability is King. It is great fun building them, and also rebuilding failed machines, done that, read the book, shot the rabbit! However, when running even a small Network of them, then compatibility and reliability are absolutely crucial. There is no option to tell a key Client to hold on for a couple of weeks whilst an elusive hardware or software (or both) issue is fixed.
Biggest bottle Neck when Farming Chia bitcoin is File Speed and I/O lag. Those PCIE4.0 x16 Gen4 cards make WiCKED fast Chia plotting drives. You can do 60-70 plots a day with that thing and average $1500US a month in XCH.
The Asus Hyper cards do not have any dedicated raid functions on the board itself ? e.g configurable before boot or after boot with software ? Just normaly forwards drives to the OS and the OS should handle the raid functions ?
humm I am buying the Asus hyper m.2 putting it in my HP Z640 with linux planning putting all 4 drives as pv in a LVM. I am hoping I have better results. I use blinder and davinci resolve in ubuntu. Do you think it was a window's only issue???
Surely you would have to run your GPU through the chipset on X570 if you did this, which isn't great. I use the Asus Hyper M.2 card in my secondary PCIE slot at x4/x4 but with only two SSDs installed, so I can still run my GPU at x8 in the top slot. I notice that the board you used doesn't actually have a secondary PCIE slot (direct from the CPU) though.
Yes, ryzen 3000 series have 24 pcie lines. On my x570, I have 2 x16 slots directly to the cpu (can be x8x8 or x16x0). Then you have another x4 that includes a 3rd x16 slot plus everything else. Even then, mine didn’t work because the board didn’t support bifurcation, but if it had, to get full speed on the nvme (assuming 4) you’d need to run the gpu it through the chipset. You could run a gpu at x8 and 2nvme on the other x8, both connected to the cpu, and everything else through the chipset, but you can’t really run 4 nvme at full speed. If you want this kind of feature you need to go with threadripper, threadripper pro, or epyc, as they have up to 128 pcie lanes (on the latter 2) at 4.0 speed.
Great video, very informative. I saw that you do not recommend using the Gen 4 card for the OS drive. Is this because of the RAID 0 drivers? I would like to install four PCIe 4 drives on the card and set them up into two RAID 1 volumes, with the OS being on one of them. Do you think this would be stable for the OS?
Hey thanks for making this review! Couple questions if you have the time: 1) On multiple storepage reviews of this card I've seen people say that only specific Intel brand SSDs are compatible to run it in RAID, and that only those Intel drives are listed under Asus' support page. What SSDs did you personally use, and if you've successfully used other brand SSDs (I personally plan on using some corsair mp600s) then why do you think so many people are having issues? I wonder if its related to the issue you were having? Looking forward to your follow up video, thanks! 2) Would an x570 motherboard have enough PCIE lanes to use this in x16, a GPU in x16, and one other M.2 drive in x4?
Hey Jared, thanks for watching. I know what you're talking about with the Intel only drives....to be honest I'm not sure, but for this application I don't think that's the issue. I am using Intel 665p drives here and tried them with both windows drivers and the Intel drivers....I don't have a for sure answer for you on that one...I'm talking with AMD still so I'll be sure to ask them. Personaly I think the problem is with the drivers from AMD and the way Windows applies drivers....I even experienced a time where at first Windows applied the right drivers to the drives...crashed windows, reinstalled, and reinstalled the drivers and this time Windows would not apply them. To be honest I don't think anyone knows what the issue really is...when I talked to AMD one time, they said they didn't even know what the different drivers did that are in their RAID driver download(3 different folders), they couldn't tell me what the difference was between the files. For your x570 motherboard question....No....your 1st PCIe slot is x16, your 2nd PCIe slot will be 4....it doesn't matter though because your GPU only runs at PCIe3.0 speed
@@NailedorFailedReviews Thanks! that answered quite a bit, I'll keep an eye out for a follow up video if you decide to make one! Also I figured I wouldnt be able to run it in x16 like I wanted so I'm going to test sharing the GPU and 2 SSD's in RAID in x8 each, since like you said the GPU shouldnt bottleneck too bad in pcie 4.0 x8
Hi Jared Vos, For Intel chipsets there are Different requirements than for AMD Chipsets. Suffice to say, if You have AMD x570 Chipset, You can use any M.2 NVMe SSD. The Specs and differentiation for Intel gets wordy. Intel allows RAID O with any M.2 NVMe SSD. Any other RAID on Intel Requires 44 Lane CPU + VROC chip to unlock Virtual RAID on Chip + Requires using Intel only M.2 NVMe SDDs. Intel makes 3 VROC chips or keys. I've only seen SKUs on 2. One for x299 and one for Enterprise like a Xenon CPU. And if You have a different Intel chipset, You may or may not require a VROC key. With Intel, this Specificity gets tedious. Hope that helps!
On my MSI X570 motherboard, any M.2 I put on the card is recognized. I currently have 4 Inland drives on it but it had no problem seeing WD, Sabrent's, Crucial and Samsung drives. On my Asus board I can only get it to see 2 drives no matter what I do.
Could you please share the card comes with standoff screw in which size? I got one but it came with no standoff screw and I am looking for the compatible ones. Thanks!
I am curious if you can flesh out the issues (and solutions) that you experienced with the OS/drivers when you attempted to rebuild the RAID with additional drives after a bunch of testing (the "two weeks later" comment in the above video). I had my Asus gen2 Hyper Card working fine with 2x 1TB NVME drives. I had set up a simple storage pool in Win10 Pro for those two drives. When I physically added a third drive to the card and then deleted its data in Windows and rebooted Windows failed to reboot. It went into a recovery environment, and then was not able to repair itself. You noted several clean installs of Windows in this process. Did you ever get to the bottom of things? Ideally I don't have to wipe my OS and start from zero again. Thanks.
In all honesty I gave up, that's why there was never a follow up video....it was impossible to track down the problem, the companies were of no help, and it turned into weeks and weeks of trail and error....plus trying to record it happening is HOURS upon HOURS of video to deal with....and as you experienced failed windows reboots and having to reinstall windows will take it's toll on any human, most of all I didn't want to destroy my monitor or computer in a fit of rage upon a failed reboot, which came close to happening more than a few times. Thanks for watching, good luck with the 'ol gal.
Hi, quick question..do you know if in a ASUS Zenith II Extreme Alpha mainboard, with this card is possible to add 4 M.2 drives in a NON RAID configuration ? Would like to add 4 separate drives. Thanks !
Hi and thanks for watching...I would think you'd be able to on that board. You have to tell one of those full size PCIe lanes to split itself into 4 pieces, that is what bifurcation is, just like what I ended up doing doing in the video. You would just set the PCIe_1 to 4x4x4x4 in Advanced Settings in BIOS, install the ASUS card in that 1st PCIe slot, install your video card in the second slot, DO NOT turn on RAID in BIOS...start windows and format drives. Setting the PCIe_1 slot to the 4x4x4x4 "allows" windows to see all 4 drives. We are making a second video to show all these steps along with the RAID steps, once we finish our troubleshooting with AMD.
@@NailedorFailedReviews Hello ! Thanks for helping out. Since I cannot post pictures, here is a link with the two pages of the MB where it explain what it can be done: www.dropbox.com/sh/ft1eoilevpbw0rv/AADWjDz_1JDQx1eLgQ8OyA13a?dl=0 What is confusing is that for example for PCIEX16_1 Bandwidth, it state (when in PCIe RAID Mode) :"The four PCIe x16 slots run at x4+x4+x4+x4 mode..". When he say "The four PCIe x16 slots" he mean PCIEX16_2 and 3 and 4 ? Not clear...and before purchasing this card and 4 M.2 drives I would like to be sure...
@@arisagustoni9706 yes the 1st slot usually has 16 lanes, this gets split into 4 pieces, hence 4x4x4x4...otherwise the computer would not see all the hard drives, it would only see one. You only have so many lanes available from your CPU and the chipset, its a different topic. But what it comes down to is that your PCIe slots can only do so much, so if you do this, you move your GPU to the 2nd slot, thats fine because your GPU is not pulling more than PCIe3.0 speeds....But where you might run into a problem is if you put more PCIe cards into those other slots...you only have so many lanes available from the chipset. I think you'll be fine with what you want to do....if you really want to be sure, call ASUS and tell them what you want to do, they'll for sure give you the details you need.
@@NailedorFailedReviews Thank you very much ! Well it look it will not be a problem then, since the 4 PCIE slots when all occupied will run at x16 x8 x16 and x4 (x4 because I have a M.2 slot occupied on the MB). I will put this card in the first and the GPU in the third. Regarding ASUS support..better forget..I asked and gave me two diffrent answers contradicting themself... Thank You !
Worked for me on a GEN3 X399 Zenith Extreme with 4 GEN4 Sabrent drives. I got 3500/3500. On that Zenith II you'll get 5000/4400. On new Sabrent GEN4 Plus you'll get 7000/6600. C: , D: , E: , F: is easy. Then I took D: and ran W10 spanned drive. D: became a 6TB drive and E: and F: disappeared. The only thing to do in the bios>advanced> is click auto and change it to raid. that set the socket to 4x 4x 4x 4x.
In the bios of the motherboard b450 f gaming ii it says that if I connect an Asus hyper m.2 x 16 expansion card it can recognize up to 4 nvme disks and then activate the pcie raid option and my cpu is ryzen 5 5600x ...what option i have with two already nvme installed on both slots ? any help ?
So when you do set it up in bios with the x4x4x4x4 configuration, you have to setup the first lane (99% of people have a video card in) to x8 correct? In doing so, does this bottleneck/limit the capabilities of your video card?
I have an Asus X570 WS Ace Pro, and it doesn’t support bifurcation in the motherboard. Very frustrating. Tried a number of configs, but couldn’t get it to work at all.
I got a asrock x399 motherboard and will 4x 4tb m.2 drives work for this? I believe my board is gen 3 4x4x4x4 Or will it only work with all 4 rather than Slowly adding them in?
i was looking at getting this but im running a 3090 aswell so could i run this below the card or would the card have to be put in one of the lower pcie slow as opposed to the first?
Depends on your mobo, but most prefer this card in the top slot so that it runs x16 with x4x4x4x4 bifurcation. If you have a newer mainboard and running a threadripper as one example you will get great speeds on pcie Gen 4 should be plenty for 3090 as for other Ryzen systems I can speak from experience that even having a cap card in my second x16 slot causes a significant drop in gpu bandwidth on my rog hero x570 board. Easily 15-20fps lost on Metro and CP2077 at 4K. Which means your productivity apps that are bandwidth hungry will take a hit too.
All of the problems with your raid stuff and the OS is related to using Windows... I recommend generally using Linux (I also use Linux as my daily driver, works perfectly)
In case I buy a TRX-40 and the asus gen4 and I want to have the graphics card at x16, and there are other 2 x8 slots, then I should put just 2 m.2 per each x8 slot, right? (+ set at the bios x4x4 each x8 slot in case it is not automatic) But, is it required to put the m.2 at the asus on specific order or not?
Hi everyone!!! Can I add a riser cable between this hyper and my motherboard x570-e? I want to keep this raid vertically. Is this possible? The warm air from the hyper card should travel better vertically. (My ideea). And also I want more airflow from the GPU.
the problem with the condition you got this in. people are probably buying these thinking they can use them an ANY PCIEx16 port but the truth is you can only use them on specific setups. mainly newer Ryzen/threadripper setups. i bought one thinking i could at the very least use 2 of the 4 ports but NOPE. can't even do that on a intel setup.
I'm using a 9700k CPU which as far as I know, only supports PCIE gen 3 speeds. If I used this card in a x16 slot, am I able to achieve PCIE gen 4 speeds? I looked online but couldn't find this information.
Great review. So sad this PCIe RAID cards don't really improve performance. Can you ask Liqid to lend you a Honey Badger RAID card? It's supposed to be the best in the world. Allowing you to have sequencial read/writes over 30,000. Linus Tech Tips reviewed. He wasn't very clear. He showed that you can load a crazy number of clips on Premiere pro and scroll smoothly without any frames drop, but the conclusion is that he didn't see how they could benefit from it. He should have compared the Honey Badger against just a ultrafast NVME 4 like the Samsung 980 Pro. Do you think you can finally prove wether or not a Honey Badger is worth it?
Thank you for the video. I had one issue. I have MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI motherboard. I purchased Asus Hyper M.2 x16 Gen 4 Card. and i put 2 SSD into that. but when i trying to do ray it's only showing one SSD. i also tried with lan 4*4*4*4 pci but it's still showing one. Am i missing something? Please help me...
This is kind of incredible. Do you know if this will work on a Z390 Aorus Master mobo? I currently only have one samsung 970 evo plus 1tb NVMe drive but I'd like to expand using the Asus Hyper card and maybe only add 2 more for now.
I got mine today dropped 4 1TB Nvme drives in it and put it in under my gpu I have a x570 Msi Meg Ace has 3x m.2 and 2x 16x Gen 4 pci-e and the Gen 3. I installed the card in my second slow and windows detected it and only found 1 drive on it, how do I get it to detect all 4? I didn’t seem to have an option to split the pci-e lane 4x4x4x4
I tried to make this work on my x570 asus, but after a lot of time and effort, I failed. Bottom line is that w/o bifurcation support, it WILL NOT work. At one point, I got it to see 2 drives, but never more. I was even willing to give up the gpu, but that didn’t matter.
Have you gotten an answer yet? I have a similar set up, I have a 3080 and x570 and get it to recognize the 2nd drive, it sees it but won't allow me to allocate it
I tried to look for links or articles or details about installing 1 or 2 or 3 NVMe ssds of different capacities on to this card. I have tried to do that, but only the 1st ssd which is identical to another one is detected. I need to install separate drives. What do i do? I have the X570 Steel Legend from Asrock board.
X570 has one X16 PCIe socket (usually your GPU). If you use PCIe sockets 1 and 2 they both drop to X8 X8. AN 8X PCIe socket will only bifurcate x4 X4.. that's just two M.2 drives. To get two 16X sockets you will need a TR TRX40 board. I have two Asus Hyper GEN4 M.2 cards with GEN4 drives in a GEN3 X399 board. That only has HALF the cpu lane bandwidth of GEN4 lanes. It's slower but works. best wishes.
@@chrisjohnson261 OK. What I could find: GEN4 5000/4400. GEN4 version2 7000/6600. B450 is gen3 cpu lanes and will run 3500/3500. X570 has one M.2 GEN4 off the cpu lanes at 5000/4400 or one M.2 GEN4 with a GEN4 version2 at 7000/6600. Gill at build or buy test Gen4 drives and the new GEN4 V2. I couldn't find a Gigabyte V2 NVMe. I run Sabrent GEN4 drives, but I wish I had new Sabrent GEN4 Plus drives. If you have a bunch of drives with lots of stuff, you might want a 1TB GEN4 plus on AMD Store MI. Everything you use often will move to the MI drive and load at 7000MHz. best wishes.
You actually returned a RAID AIC because when you opened the box it “looked like someone sneezed on it”… Really bro? No one shot a snot rocket onto your card before boxing it up, what kind of grown man comes to that conclusion? It was probably melted adhesive used on the board - especially since you found it under the heat sink.
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ASUS has 3 M.2 AICs. Thanks for mentioning Us! Had no idea this was such a big deal. We considered this to be very esoteric. Great video!
Load times for games are controlled by your old antique game engine on that new AAA high priced game.
RAID for anything other than compiling ONE LARGE FILE is useless. Always has been. But people have the right to think for themselves (regardless how wrong they are).
One drive goes bad, your RAID is toast. Good job!! RAID also doesn't help in gaming, storage or anything other than compiling a massive file.
Dont exactly understand what you mean. But I think you mean RAID0. Yeah it is basically useless. But RAID1 for example is pretty good?
THANK YOU for this video! Was curious to try the setup that you initially had, but I think the limitation is the x570 chipset/ or motherboard vendor. Nice to add m.2 nvme drives to the system, but not worth the instability in raid.
Great review! Good luck with ASUS working with you, my ticket with them has been in for 2 weeks and no support has been offered yet. I picked up the ver 2 and the ver 4 of these cards on Amazon. First began testing on an Asus X-570 Gaming Plus Wifi / AMD 5 3xxx series and never could get it to see more than 2 drives. Played with that about a week with no love. Then I decided to try it on my Ryzen 9 same mobo minus the wifi and it was absolutely no prob seeing all four drives. (same bios settings) I am using several different NVMe's and it sees anything I throw in the hyper card. When I tried to Raid it using "Asus" I got no where and eventually blew up my OS and had to reload Windows so the next time (if) I will use Windows to try a raid. My boot drive is a Sabrent Rocket PCIe 4 so reloading Windows is pretty fast and getting the updates over a gig network isn't too bad.
On the Ryzen 9 PC, I've put an old 512k generic video card (2nd PCIE slot cant find any Win10 drivers for it) but it allows me to see the screen. As I said, once I turned on the bifornification which lists it at 8x8, I had no problem.
Back on the Ryzen 5 PC, nothing but 2 drives can be seen. I used both the built in video and a card in the 2nd slot. I did run across a chart from ASUS when it listed the CPU's needed but I thought I read all 3000 series were good to go but I may be mistaken. That said I do have a Ryzen 3 sitting over in the corner that I may try it with but it's on a MSI B450 mobo or something non ASUS so I may have to pull the chip off and put it on the 570 wifi motherboard.
The whole point I am trying to get to is setting up my DAW with all NVMe's so that I can run hugh plugin's much faster. Thats one machine I dont really want to "test" this product on until I know it will be successful on the first try. Currently it is a MSI x570 / Ryzen 7 setup.
Did you by chance hear back from ASUS? I was looking for the 2nd video you mentioned in this one but wasn't able to find it.
Anyways, back to testing... have a great day and stay healthy.
One of the best reviews I saw in a while.
Totally agree that folks shouldn't put an OS on any RAID setup.
Folk should always remember that standard SSD speeds today are such that 'read throughput' (the marketing 'headline' speed you always see) is NOWHERE near as critical for any OS than the RND4k speeds - at Q1T1, and the latency e.g. at 11:04 the crucial OS factors are 61.76 (Q1T1) and 66.19(us, latency). Your OS - and standard app suites on that C drive (e.g. MS Office) load speeds will benefit far more if these factors can be made faster - since most OS and C-drive app loads are at or below 4k in size. Unfortunately, manufacturers are far more concerned with the headline sequential read speeds - while they have increased nicely over recent years, the 4k Q1 and latency speeds have remained shockingly low.
Of course, a large PCIe-4 RAID-0 setup using the latest gen4 NVME SSD's do, of course, have their niche uses. Just make sure you, as a user, will benefit...!!!
On the subject of more PCIe lanes, it would be good for AMD to reduce the Threadripper cost entry point (Intel were/are clearly struggling to compete here).
I have never witnessed a human memorize benchmark write/read techniques before. (The references in the whole 1st quarter of your paragraph). But, I guess if you do something enough, the info sticks.
You could've simplified the O/S details and just said, an O/S on a SATA SSD is more than enough for its performance.
RAID M.2 SSDs or SATA SSDs is great for compiling videos, but is useless for nearly anything else. You need to write one massive file to benefit from RAID.
As a computer engineer and coming from being a computer technician for over 30 years, I have NEVER needed a RAID setup. I only catalog films, discographies and games.
I've seen people use RAID for gaming and storage back in the 486 days, the single core processor days (up to x64) and currently. It gives no benefit for these purposes.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't stop it from drowning itself, I suppose. 😑
@@Twitch_Moderator What's your thoughts on the far more important 4k Q1 speeds remaining shockingly low year after year, gen after gen?
Literally a parking lot of SSDs
4 slots adapter shouldnt cost this expensive.
@@fynkozari9271 Yeah, it should be free for you.
This video helped me get it to work. Thank you so much for sharing with us your pain and lessons learned.
My motherboard came with this and i just dont know what i should use it for, so here i am lol
This was very in-detail look at this card. You sure put a lot of work into this video.
You were definitely suffering from being cutting edge 11 months ago. I just picked up the same asus card, 2 x inland 2tb pcie v3 m.2 nvme (~$500 total) and had it running as a 4tb raid 0 striped drive in less than an hour. So Windows 10 Pro seems to have all the drivers it needs now. Planning on getting 2 more cards to push the stripe and capacity further.
What moherboard / bios settings did you use? I cant make the Hyper card work in an Asus motherboard but it works just fine in the MSI-570 motherboard.
@@benharmon7136 I currently have the asus x570E. Bifurcation to x4x4x4x4 on a x16 slot.
@@ChrisHufnagel_Polymath Thanks Chris. I could not get mine to work. Trying a gigabyte X570 now with the ver 4 Hyper card. lol. The ver 2 of the card works fine in my MSI X-570 and sees all 4 drives no problem.
@@ChrisHufnagel_Polymath BTW, just ordered the GIGABYTE X570S AERO G from Amazon. If I cant get the Hyper Gen 4 working at least I can put all 4 of the M.2 Rockers right on the motherboard lol
Superb content here. Thanks 😎👍
Having a "scratch drive" that gives me all my media on a super-speed drive, cuts my editing in half or less. BUT. I need a 40 lane CPU. 16 for my GPU, 16 for this card and 8 lanes for all my other Mother Board needs.
I have an ASROCK dual cpu motherboard and trying to setup exactly what you did. Wondering if you could share in detail the changing of BIOS settings.
Thanjsy
So I picked this up for my Asus Prime X570 Pro. For this motherboard, it goes in the 2nd PCIE slot below the GPU and can map up to 2 NMVe drives. I didn't download any AMD Raid drivers or configure raid in the BIOS. Windows detected two new drives and I used Windows Disk Management to create a striped volume. Is there any downside to this?
My benchmarks seem great. The two 1TB 970 Evo Plus in the Hyper M.2 get 6713 MB/s read and 6680 MB/s write, compared to 3570 MB/s read and 3310 MB/s write I get with my single 970 Evo Plus plugged directly into my motherboard.
You did it properly. Reviewer seems to not understand how nvme works.
raid 0 provides little advantage @ nvme speeds however less drive name clutter (single drive instead of multiple)
i just like the idea as a "scratch" storage space for games or video production
Would be more interresting to see if it behaves "better" in linux, i was thinking of using one of these cards in conjuction with a hypervisor. Good info, keep it comming :)
An X570 board will not give an X16 socket with 4x 4x 4x 4x bifurcation. X570 has one X16 or two X8 sockets. Ryzen cpus need a graphics card in PCIe socket 1. Anything in the second socket drops sockets one and two to 8X. 8X would allow 4X 4X bifurcation and only two NVMe drives. To run four NVMe drives in raid 0 and clock 15000MB on GEN4 drives requires four drives on an TRX40 or WTX80E. Four of the second generation of GEN4 drives (7000MB) will clock 21000MB. If your on an X570 buy the Supermicro dual drive X8 AIC. $50.00
@@maxhughes5687 Seem's I read on Asus site that the X570 does. Then again my Asus motherboard doesn't show but 2 drives while the MSI motherboard sees all 4 drives at full speed.
@@benharmon7136 IDK how. AM4 only has 20 cpu lanes to the processor. One X16 and four lanes to the M.2 socket. Four other lanes go to the chip set and are shared on other things. IDK. Interesting! Which MSI board are you using?
Maybe I missed it in the description and throughout the review itself, but which version is it? I presume and hope that we're discussing the V2 iteration of this product.
At any rate, thank you for an interesting product review which I have been eyeing for a little bit now. 👍🏻
Greetings from Scandinavia!
some motherboards don't like this in the pciex16_1 slot. WRX80 Sage Pro is one of them. Causes system to run abnormally slow
GREAT review.
Hi Philodox, Agreed!
Do you even solder ?
I wanna get this on an x570 and use four NVMe drives on the Hyper alongside a GPU, but everyone is saying different things about this card and I'm pretty confused by all of the drama.
You need an x570 board with x8/x8 PCIe interface and zen2/zen3 Ryzen CPU, if u have x570 that supports Nvidia's SLI then you are all set, it' not relevant otherwise SLI just requires at least x8/x8.
For SSDs you can "officially" only use 2 NVMe in x8 mode (with GPU in that other x8 slot), you may get 4xNVMe (gen3) sorta working like in this video but it's not supported by Asus on x570. The reason for this that there are not enough PCIe lanes on x570, each NVMe takes up an x4 interface, you only have that x8.
But, PCIe gen4 does offer 2 times the bandwidth of gen3, so technically you have x16 gen3 Bandwith in x8 interface so those gen3 drives should work, gen4 drives need entire x16 gen4 to work correctly. Hower can those gen3 drives operate at gen4 spec or does this card run in gen3 mode when using gen3 drives? That I don't know, I know it's possible but I don't know if that's the case.
Hi VexingVelvet, On paper the x570 chipset can do this. On execution, the problem becomes apparent. You have 1 x16 Slot. As soon as You use the 2nd Slot due to shared Resources that x16 Slot drops to x8. Each NVMe SSD Drive requires 4 PCIe Lanes. Hence a x16 Slot. If You can install video card in a x4 Slot, then a x16 card will work with 4 Drives.
Otherwise, You need a self Bifurcated card that allows 4 Drives in a x8 slot. And that would be GloTrends Sky AIC which is only PCIe 3.0. There currently are no self Bifurcated PCIe 4.0 x8 AICs. They all require x16 Slot. Hassle. Hope that helps! This is a great Video!
Can this do just SSD's or is it just representative of devices on the PCI channel?
How are NVMe firmware updates handled?
Thanks for trying. You talked me out of a mistake
I tried this and messed everything up. But I love the TECH PARTY. Give it your best shot! If you get it to work, give us an a,b,c,etc for your brand of mobo and bios. As Gill says, "it's in the details" bios revision # and make/model matters.
Reminds me of the dark old days when lots of things caused random crashes and hangs. Best move I made, back then, was to give up cobbling machines together myself, and instead just saved up and bought off the shelf machines from HP and Apple. Things are much better now, but it's interesting to see things can still catch people out when they do not work as expected. Good review, and summary.
I've always built my own machines since the 90s and they last 5+ years, the last one lasted 9+ years. It's about knowing specs and quality.
@@user-account-not-found It is indeed. But the hard facts are that the Workstation and Server class of off-the-shelf machines, have millions spent on them to test that the components are all compatible and compliant with the OS.
I am absolutely not a fan of anything Corporate but, the point I am making is when time is better spent using machines, than building them, reliability is King. It is great fun building them, and also rebuilding failed machines, done that, read the book, shot the rabbit!
However, when running even a small Network of them, then compatibility and reliability are absolutely crucial. There is no option to tell a key Client to hold on for a couple of weeks whilst an elusive hardware or software (or both) issue is fixed.
thanks alot
So where do I find the video where it explains what’s going on in the bios and windows setup, I already subscribed .
That one you will never find, they don't know how to get further than unboxing
Biggest bottle Neck when Farming Chia bitcoin is File Speed and I/O lag.
Those PCIE4.0 x16 Gen4 cards make WiCKED fast Chia plotting drives. You can do 60-70 plots a day with that thing and average $1500US a month in XCH.
yeah just dont mind the fact that im putting 4x8tb nvme ssd’s
The Asus Hyper cards do not have any dedicated raid functions on the board itself ? e.g configurable before boot or after boot with software ? Just normaly forwards drives to the OS and the OS should handle the raid functions ?
I'd like to see a tutorial on intel 12th gen with this adapter
humm I am buying the Asus hyper m.2 putting it in my HP Z640 with linux planning putting all 4 drives as pv in a LVM. I am hoping I have better results. I use blinder and davinci resolve in ubuntu. Do you think it was a window's only issue???
Surely you would have to run your GPU through the chipset on X570 if you did this, which isn't great. I use the Asus Hyper M.2 card in my secondary PCIE slot at x4/x4 but with only two SSDs installed, so I can still run my GPU at x8 in the top slot. I notice that the board you used doesn't actually have a secondary PCIE slot (direct from the CPU) though.
Yes, ryzen 3000 series have 24 pcie lines. On my x570, I have 2 x16 slots directly to the cpu (can be x8x8 or x16x0). Then you have another x4 that includes a 3rd x16 slot plus everything else. Even then, mine didn’t work because the board didn’t support bifurcation, but if it had, to get full speed on the nvme (assuming 4) you’d need to run the gpu it through the chipset.
You could run a gpu at x8 and 2nvme on the other x8, both connected to the cpu, and everything else through the chipset, but you can’t really run 4 nvme at full speed.
If you want this kind of feature you need to go with threadripper, threadripper pro, or epyc, as they have up to 128 pcie lanes (on the latter 2) at 4.0 speed.
Great video, very informative. I saw that you do not recommend using the Gen 4 card for the OS drive. Is this because of the RAID 0 drivers? I would like to install four PCIe 4 drives on the card and set them up into two RAID 1 volumes, with the OS being on one of them. Do you think this would be stable for the OS?
Mirroring is generally much more stable than striping ime
Did you solve it anyhow later?
❤❤ Excellent ❤❤ video😊
mijo explica como se hace el raid en el sistema para 4 ssd no q como los pones en la targeta eso es algo estpidomad
Hey thanks for making this review! Couple questions if you have the time:
1) On multiple storepage reviews of this card I've seen people say that only specific Intel brand SSDs are compatible to run it in RAID, and that only those Intel drives are listed under Asus' support page. What SSDs did you personally use, and if you've successfully used other brand SSDs (I personally plan on using some corsair mp600s) then why do you think so many people are having issues? I wonder if its related to the issue you were having? Looking forward to your follow up video, thanks!
2) Would an x570 motherboard have enough PCIE lanes to use this in x16, a GPU in x16, and one other M.2 drive in x4?
Hey Jared, thanks for watching. I know what you're talking about with the Intel only drives....to be honest I'm not sure, but for this application I don't think that's the issue. I am using Intel 665p drives here and tried them with both windows drivers and the Intel drivers....I don't have a for sure answer for you on that one...I'm talking with AMD still so I'll be sure to ask them.
Personaly I think the problem is with the drivers from AMD and the way Windows applies drivers....I even experienced a time where at first Windows applied the right drivers to the drives...crashed windows, reinstalled, and reinstalled the drivers and this time Windows would not apply them. To be honest I don't think anyone knows what the issue really is...when I talked to AMD one time, they said they didn't even know what the different drivers did that are in their RAID driver download(3 different folders), they couldn't tell me what the difference was between the files.
For your x570 motherboard question....No....your 1st PCIe slot is x16, your 2nd PCIe slot will be 4....it doesn't matter though because your GPU only runs at PCIe3.0 speed
@@NailedorFailedReviews Thanks! that answered quite a bit, I'll keep an eye out for a follow up video if you decide to make one! Also I figured I wouldnt be able to run it in x16 like I wanted so I'm going to test sharing the GPU and 2 SSD's in RAID in x8 each, since like you said the GPU shouldnt bottleneck too bad in pcie 4.0 x8
You definitely can use amd ssd to set up raid
Hi Jared Vos, For Intel chipsets there are Different requirements than for AMD Chipsets. Suffice to say, if You have AMD x570 Chipset, You can use any M.2 NVMe SSD.
The Specs and differentiation for Intel gets wordy. Intel allows RAID O with any M.2 NVMe SSD. Any other RAID on Intel Requires 44 Lane CPU + VROC chip to unlock Virtual RAID on Chip + Requires using Intel only M.2 NVMe SDDs. Intel makes 3 VROC chips or keys. I've only seen SKUs on 2. One for x299 and one for Enterprise like a Xenon CPU. And if You have a different Intel chipset, You may or may not require a VROC key. With Intel, this Specificity gets tedious. Hope that helps!
On my MSI X570 motherboard, any M.2 I put on the card is recognized. I currently have 4 Inland drives on it but it had no problem seeing WD, Sabrent's, Crucial and Samsung drives. On my Asus board I can only get it to see 2 drives no matter what I do.
Could I use this for individual drives for app's, games and extra applications without the huge headaches?
Could you please share the card comes with standoff screw in which size? I got one but it came with no standoff screw and I am looking for the compatible ones. Thanks!
hey just one question, can i use raid 1 in this one?
I am curious if you can flesh out the issues (and solutions) that you experienced with the OS/drivers when you attempted to rebuild the RAID with additional drives after a bunch of testing (the "two weeks later" comment in the above video).
I had my Asus gen2 Hyper Card working fine with 2x 1TB NVME drives. I had set up a simple storage pool in Win10 Pro for those two drives. When I physically added a third drive to the card and then deleted its data in Windows and rebooted Windows failed to reboot. It went into a recovery environment, and then was not able to repair itself. You noted several clean installs of Windows in this process. Did you ever get to the bottom of things? Ideally I don't have to wipe my OS and start from zero again. Thanks.
In all honesty I gave up, that's why there was never a follow up video....it was impossible to track down the problem, the companies were of no help, and it turned into weeks and weeks of trail and error....plus trying to record it happening is HOURS upon HOURS of video to deal with....and as you experienced failed windows reboots and having to reinstall windows will take it's toll on any human, most of all I didn't want to destroy my monitor or computer in a fit of rage upon a failed reboot, which came close to happening more than a few times. Thanks for watching, good luck with the 'ol gal.
Speed, the speed
Hi, quick question..do you know if in a ASUS Zenith II Extreme Alpha mainboard, with this card is possible to add 4 M.2 drives in a NON RAID configuration ? Would like to add 4 separate drives. Thanks !
Hi and thanks for watching...I would think you'd be able to on that board. You have to tell one of those full size PCIe lanes to split itself into 4 pieces, that is what bifurcation is, just like what I ended up doing doing in the video. You would just set the PCIe_1 to 4x4x4x4 in Advanced Settings in BIOS, install the ASUS card in that 1st PCIe slot, install your video card in the second slot, DO NOT turn on RAID in BIOS...start windows and format drives. Setting the PCIe_1 slot to the 4x4x4x4 "allows" windows to see all 4 drives. We are making a second video to show all these steps along with the RAID steps, once we finish our troubleshooting with AMD.
@@NailedorFailedReviews Hello ! Thanks for helping out. Since I cannot post pictures, here is a link with the two pages of the MB where it explain what it can be done: www.dropbox.com/sh/ft1eoilevpbw0rv/AADWjDz_1JDQx1eLgQ8OyA13a?dl=0
What is confusing is that for example for PCIEX16_1 Bandwidth, it state (when in PCIe RAID Mode) :"The four PCIe x16 slots run at x4+x4+x4+x4 mode..". When he say "The four PCIe x16 slots" he mean PCIEX16_2 and 3 and 4 ? Not clear...and before purchasing this card and 4 M.2 drives I would like to be sure...
@@arisagustoni9706 yes the 1st slot usually has 16 lanes, this gets split into 4 pieces, hence 4x4x4x4...otherwise the computer would not see all the hard drives, it would only see one. You only have so many lanes available from your CPU and the chipset, its a different topic. But what it comes down to is that your PCIe slots can only do so much, so if you do this, you move your GPU to the 2nd slot, thats fine because your GPU is not pulling more than PCIe3.0 speeds....But where you might run into a problem is if you put more PCIe cards into those other slots...you only have so many lanes available from the chipset. I think you'll be fine with what you want to do....if you really want to be sure, call ASUS and tell them what you want to do, they'll for sure give you the details you need.
@@NailedorFailedReviews Thank you very much ! Well it look it will not be a problem then, since the 4 PCIE slots when all occupied will run at x16 x8 x16 and x4 (x4 because I have a M.2 slot occupied on the MB). I will put this card in the first and the GPU in the third. Regarding ASUS support..better forget..I asked and gave me two diffrent answers contradicting themself... Thank You !
Worked for me on a GEN3 X399 Zenith Extreme with 4 GEN4 Sabrent drives. I got 3500/3500. On that Zenith II you'll get 5000/4400. On new Sabrent GEN4 Plus you'll get 7000/6600. C: , D: , E: , F: is easy. Then I took D: and ran W10 spanned drive. D: became a 6TB drive and E: and F: disappeared. The only thing to do in the bios>advanced> is click auto and change it to raid. that set the socket to 4x 4x 4x 4x.
In the bios of the motherboard b450 f gaming ii it says that if I connect an Asus hyper m.2 x 16 expansion card it can recognize up to 4 nvme disks and then activate the pcie raid option and my cpu is ryzen 5 5600x ...what option i have with two already nvme installed on both slots ? any help ?
The OS will detect this AIC as 4x disks 1TB or 1x disk 4TB?
So when you do set it up in bios with the x4x4x4x4 configuration, you have to setup the first lane (99% of people have a video card in) to x8 correct? In doing so, does this bottleneck/limit the capabilities of your video card?
Tech Philip DeFranco?
I have an Asus X570 WS Ace Pro, and it doesn’t support bifurcation in the motherboard. Very frustrating. Tried a number of configs, but couldn’t get it to work at all.
I got a asrock x399 motherboard and will 4x 4tb m.2 drives work for this? I believe my board is gen 3 4x4x4x4 Or will it only work with all 4 rather than Slowly adding them in?
i was looking at getting this but im running a 3090 aswell so could i run this below the card or would the card have to be put in one of the lower pcie slow as opposed to the first?
Depends on your mobo, but most prefer this card in the top slot so that it runs x16 with x4x4x4x4 bifurcation. If you have a newer mainboard and running a threadripper as one example you will get great speeds on pcie Gen 4 should be plenty for 3090 as for other Ryzen systems I can speak from experience that even having a cap card in my second x16 slot causes a significant drop in gpu bandwidth on my rog hero x570 board. Easily 15-20fps lost on Metro and CP2077 at 4K. Which means your productivity apps that are bandwidth hungry will take a hit too.
Can someone help, please? Will the asus hyper card work with a supermicro h12ssl motherboard and amd epyc 7542 cpu under windows server 2019? Thanks
The only downside to this card for me is that on my board I have to use the slot I'd normally use for my video card.
Are you trying to set up a virtual machine. This would make you have to reinstall windows everytime.
All of the problems with your raid stuff and the OS is related to using Windows...
I recommend generally using Linux (I also use Linux as my daily driver, works perfectly)
These are not hard drives.. They are solid state drives please refer to them appropriately. Other than that excellent video
They are NVME drives, in the SSD family of technology
In case I buy a TRX-40 and the asus gen4 and I want to have the graphics card at x16, and there are other 2 x8 slots, then I should put just 2 m.2 per each x8 slot, right? (+ set at the bios x4x4 each x8 slot in case it is not automatic) But, is it required to put the m.2 at the asus on specific order or not?
With the TRX40 you have 2x 16x slots
Hi everyone!!! Can I add a riser cable between this hyper and my motherboard x570-e? I want to keep this raid vertically. Is this possible? The warm air from the hyper card should travel better vertically. (My ideea). And also I want more airflow from the GPU.
the problem with the condition you got this in. people are probably buying these thinking they can use them an ANY PCIEx16 port but the truth is you can only use them on specific setups. mainly newer Ryzen/threadripper setups. i bought one thinking i could at the very least use 2 of the 4 ports but NOPE. can't even do that on a intel setup.
I'm using a 9700k CPU which as far as I know, only supports PCIE gen 3 speeds. If I used this card in a x16 slot, am I able to achieve PCIE gen 4 speeds? I looked online but couldn't find this information.
Great review. So sad this PCIe RAID cards don't really improve performance. Can you ask Liqid to lend you a Honey Badger RAID card? It's supposed to be the best in the world. Allowing you to have sequencial read/writes over 30,000. Linus Tech Tips reviewed. He wasn't very clear. He showed that you can load a crazy number of clips on Premiere pro and scroll smoothly without any frames drop, but the conclusion is that he didn't see how they could benefit from it. He should have compared the Honey Badger against just a ultrafast NVME 4 like the Samsung 980 Pro. Do you think you can finally prove wether or not a Honey Badger is worth it?
His test was with worst mobo M.2 drive combo on earth.
@@maxhughes5687 I am confused. Are you talking about Linus Tech Tips? What is mobo? Can you explain in detail? Your comment is very superficial
i have a asus tuf x570 mobo is it possible to run this on my 16x2 slot?
Thank you for the video. I had one issue. I have MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI motherboard. I purchased Asus Hyper M.2 x16 Gen 4 Card. and i put 2 SSD into that. but when i trying to do ray it's only showing one SSD. i also tried with lan 4*4*4*4 pci but it's still showing one. Am i missing something? Please help me...
This is kind of incredible. Do you know if this will work on a Z390 Aorus Master mobo? I currently only have one samsung 970 evo plus 1tb NVMe drive but I'd like to expand using the Asus Hyper card and maybe only add 2 more for now.
Never buy Seagate HDD. I've had to replace hundreds more of them than any other manufacturer.
I bough 1tb seagate and 2 tb samsung, seagate hdd died after 7 years but samsung hdd still working today.
I got mine today dropped 4 1TB Nvme drives in it and put it in under my gpu I have a x570 Msi Meg Ace has 3x m.2 and 2x 16x Gen 4 pci-e and the Gen 3. I installed the card in my second slow and windows detected it and only found 1 drive on it, how do I get it to detect all 4? I didn’t seem to have an option to split the pci-e lane 4x4x4x4
I tried to make this work on my x570 asus, but after a lot of time and effort, I failed. Bottom line is that w/o bifurcation support, it WILL NOT work. At one point, I got it to see 2 drives, but never more. I was even willing to give up the gpu, but that didn’t matter.
@@MD-en3zm they are saying here that if you give up the GPU then it should work as the first slot should allow x16
@@oceanmasterza I tried that - didn’t work.
Whats the max capacity?
i got a GIGABYTE X570 AORUS MASTER with a 3090 Can I ever get 4 ssds running on this on thw 2nd PCI lane ??
Have you gotten an answer yet? I have a similar set up, I have a 3080 and x570 and get it to recognize the 2nd drive, it sees it but won't allow me to allocate it
@@MrZtboohoo1 disk management to format the new ssd.
I'd buy one but only if it came in black
I don't want it as a raid zero just want tons of space for games
I tried to look for links or articles or details about installing 1 or 2 or 3 NVMe ssds of different capacities on to this card. I have tried to do that, but only the 1st ssd which is identical to another one is detected. I need to install separate drives. What do i do? I have the X570 Steel Legend from Asrock board.
X570 has one X16 PCIe socket (usually your GPU). If you use PCIe sockets 1 and 2 they both drop to X8 X8. AN 8X PCIe socket will only bifurcate x4 X4.. that's just two M.2 drives. To get two 16X sockets you will need a TR TRX40 board. I have two Asus Hyper GEN4 M.2 cards with GEN4 drives in a GEN3 X399 board. That only has HALF the cpu lane bandwidth of GEN4 lanes. It's slower but works. best wishes.
So would the aorus gigabit 1tb version work fine in my bottom slot?
Hi Chris. Which motherboard and cpu are you using? Will you be powering one 1TB NVMe or a 'quad card' with four NVMe drives?
@@maxhughes5687 probably 1tb and im using tomahawk b450 max and currently a 3900xt but will be switching it out for either 5800x or 5900x
@@chrisjohnson261 OK. What I could find: GEN4 5000/4400. GEN4 version2 7000/6600. B450 is gen3 cpu lanes and will run 3500/3500. X570 has one M.2 GEN4 off the cpu lanes at 5000/4400 or one M.2 GEN4 with a GEN4 version2 at 7000/6600. Gill at build or buy test Gen4 drives and the new GEN4 V2. I couldn't find a Gigabyte V2 NVMe. I run Sabrent GEN4 drives, but I wish I had new Sabrent GEN4 Plus drives. If you have a bunch of drives with lots of stuff, you might want a 1TB GEN4 plus on AMD Store MI. Everything you use often will move to the MI drive and load at 7000MHz. best wishes.
Wonder if it works with B550 too
B550 and X570 don't have an extra 16X PCIe socket to plug a Hyper card into for four NVMe M.2 drives.
Do you do voice overs? Your voice sounds familiar.
I fell asleep watching this. Its monotone.
Damn.. I'm out. Mini itx platform. Single pcie lane.😒
Can i use only 1 ssd on it? And can i use it withtout using raid mod?
Yes
can i do this with other brands gen4 m.2 nvme ssds?
AMD raid yes. Intel works with this card and (I think) VROC, but only with Intel drives.
Make sure your board supports bifurcation in the bios into x4x4x4x4 or it will not work.
Can you recommend a version with its own brain?
That was the unboxing, the setup, absolutely not so much, actually it was NOT there
for 600$ it look like a 25$ card and with what you said it look like a 2$ packaging.
That card is usually
Trying to figure out what board I would need to fit asus rog strix 3090 oc with this as boot drive.
Your video card will be slower than x16.
lol you keep calling them hard drives that's cute.
wow so much talking, what was the performance info
5:12 that transition gave me a seizure man, not cool
someone sneezed on it and gave it the whuFlu
instant return
You actually returned a RAID AIC because when you opened the box it “looked like someone sneezed on it”… Really bro? No one shot a snot rocket onto your card before boxing it up, what kind of grown man comes to that conclusion? It was probably melted adhesive used on the board - especially since you found it under the heat sink.
Это самый унылыйобзор что я видел, че он там докопался до пакета?