D. I. Y. AIR TO AIR MINI SPLIT HEAT PUMP INSTALLATION, AND UPDATE ELECTRIQ HEAT PUMP
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มี.ค. 2024
- ONE MONTH RECORDING TEMPERATURES AND C.O.P OF AIR TO AIR MINI SPLIT HEAT PUMP.
ALSO I PUT MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS AND FITTED AN ADDITIONAL MINI SPLIT HEAT PUMP
I fit air to air and rave about them (f-gas registered), just a few points for anyone thinking about fitting these units, r290 is highly flammable so be careful!!! Buy a leak detector . The fittings have a torque requirement so be careful not to over tighten and damage the threads.We vac the lineset to remove moisture and to check for leakage (holding a negative pressure for a time)also pressure test for strength of joints and leakage. When brazing you need to run oxygen free nitrogen through the lineset to eliminate oxidation in the pipes, if your compressor goes and you haven't your warranty will be void!!! With the location of the outdoor unit i would always fit it at least 1m from a boundary and as considerably as possible. An air con unit (hot/cold)isnt covered with permitted development!! strange? as 1 heat pump (hot only) is. But ive never know a problem!!
Good video. If you rename your title to add the word 'installation' and 'diy' and the brand and model you'll get more views over the long term. This is because diy minded people will search for both terms on youtube when they want to install their own either new or second hand and will be more likely to click on your videos if you are specific in your title rather than other videos. Hopefully the algorithm will still recommend this video to them as its a good video.
Thank you for the tip I might give it a try . Thank you
Hello,
Just wanted to save amazing video. Very well done and it's really appreciated. I have liked and subscribed and I hope you continue to produce these great videos which help people. I was interested in installing one of these myself and after watching your video I feel very confident doing so. I already have some "Vents" installed in my house which I may repurpose one for this project. What stud detector did you use?
Great and informative video😊 I am thinking of purchasing one for my bedroom. Do you have any videos of the outside unit while it’s running? I wanted to attach the external unit to my bedroom external wall and it has a window close by. Wanted to know if it’s loud when used for cold air conditioning. Does it vibrate a lot as I’ll be attaching it to a wall mount bracket.
Hi I will post video of out side unit running. it does run quietly no real vibration . obviously being mechanical it is not completely silent but if you use a sturdy bracket and good quality rubber feet I can't see that you would have any noise problems, assuming that you are fitting the bracket to a solid wall . Thank you .
Great video thanks, it help my instal. I have the 12000 v4 and the manual has conflicting info about it having an ionizer. On mine there's 4 small holes on the side of the grey plastic on the right side where the manual says the ionizer is located, but im not sure if this means i have it or if they are just air vents.?
Hi The best way to check is with the app on your phone ,
I have checked on my appliance and the grey "block" on my unit is solid. . no holes but when I select clean on the app the unit starts up , I assume on clean mode which must be ionisation. Having said that you are right the instructions are a bit vague . Perhaps try giving the tech help line a cll with serial numbers to double check. But as my unit starts up on clean mode II can only assume that it does ionise. Thank you and good luck👍
Great video! Thanks for the detailed explanation and helpful tips. I’m planning to experiment with the same R290 unit and will likely need to reposition it after testing. Could you possibly create a video on safely moving and recharging R290? It would be incredibly helpful to understand the process and the necessary precautions. I’d be happy to contribute to a fund to support this effort. Thanks again!
Hi
This video will be very helpful th-cam.com/video/xD6ZmTYvF4U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XAosoNjR6kJP22js
This guy has already done it . Thank you and good luck
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@@HEATSEEKER1428 Hello, I have a question about the indoor connection. Did you use compression joints on the inside connections? There is a warning on my unit to use mechanical joints outside and solid joints inside. If you have used the supplied mechanical joint on the inside could you tell us your reasoning. Thank you kindly, Douglas
Hi No I did not use the manipulative compression joints inside the property , as the installation instructions state these type of joints must not be used inside the property or within the thickness of walls or voids. If you are considering joining the pipe work with in a building then you must make the joints with an appropriate material Braze or specialist solder and flux .( not the flux and solder used for general plumbing purposes , ) Specialist soldiers and fluxes are available on line .(its not cheap .). I would not recommend doing this work unless you are very confident and obviously follow all manufactures instructions and test all pipe work and fittings thoroughly. Thank you and Good luck 👍
@@douglasjohn
Hi Here is a link to an existing video showing what you are proposing to do . I hope it is helpful. Thank you . 👍th-cam.com/video/xD6ZmTYvF4U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dD6OmqbEzn12GeYT
@@HEATSEEKER1428 Thank you for your detailed reply. I have another question: How did you check your connections? Did you use your vacuum and then apply soapy liquid after filling, or did you also perform a positive pressure test?
Great video, question did you put the external unit under a roof? It’s not super clear in the manual apart from saying place external unit on a dry place… which is pretty difficult outside 🤣 anyway I see units exposed all the time with no need for a roof covering just just curious to know your approach. Thank you 🙏🏻
Hi No
it is not always practical to keep unit out of weather. I think when they say fit in dry place they mean . Do not install where the unit or part of the unit can get submersed in water . well drained ground where water will not sit. Thank you.
@@HEATSEEKER1428 makes sense! Thank you 🙏🏻
Great video I am about to do one myself. How/What did you use to box the piping indoors?
HI
To Box the piping in I just used a strip of 5mm MDF. Using some door stop timber as a support / ground..
I am not a carpenter so terminology might not be correct. I worked out what my widest point was and the bought the smallest sheet possible to fulfil my needs and then got B & Q to cut it into strips. I used this thin material because I wanted the boxing to take up as little space as possible . Thank You and good luck with your installation 👍
@@HEATSEEKER1428 Thank you for the info. Think I have the exact same unit as this vid so will be interesting to see how it goes!
Hi , this has been most helpful as I’m about to install my own, you extended the pipe work , do you not have to add more gas?
Hi I think if you read the specifications on the unit it says that your pipe set can be up to 12 meters . PLEASE CHECK THIS.👍 . If you are not exceeding the specified max distance then you should not have to add more refrigerant. Thank you . Good luck
@@HEATSEEKER1428 Thanks for your advice
Hi! I have purchased this unit , 3 weeks before it’s delivered! I’m looking to put the unit in our en suite wall as its shortest route without having to join the cables , is it okay for the condense pipe to go up out the unit indoors ( 10 inch max) and then along the loft/ floor in attic and then drop down outside . Or is it best to have it horizontally coming out the unit without any vertical pipe running ? Thanks carl
Hi Please check regs ext.regarding electrics in bathrooms . Unfortunately the condense pipe cannot rise from the unit it must have a fall all the way. There are pumps available that will allow you to over come your potential problem . Good Luck 👍
@@HEATSEEKER1428 thanks a lot! Sorry, I ment in the bedroom on the en-suite wall not actually in the en suite. I fort that with the pipe but fort is best check! Thanks a lot for reply.
Hey, thanks for making this video. I bought one of these 'easy-fit' units at the end of last year but was confused about vacuuming out the long copper pipe, so didn't end up installing it. As it gets warmer, and after watching your video, I think I understand that it's not necessary, and how the fittings go on. Do you know if there are any negatives for not vacuuming out the copper pipes?
Hi
Not vacuuming the pipe set probably will not make a lot of difference to the performance of the unit . as long as you don't leave open ends for long amount of time . Be sure to check the pipe set and connections for leaks before letting full pressure into whole system .. Thank you and good luck 👍
@@HEATSEEKER1428 Hi, I'm wondering how you did the connections for the indoor unit to the piping? There's like 2 plastic bits on the indoor units piping, and I soon as I loosen it a tiny bit, it sounds like gas is coming out. There doesn't seem to be a valve like system to stop the gas?
@@loshan1212 Hi It is no problem removing the plastic bits on the connections of the indoor unit. they are under pressure weather it be positive or negative,
It is just how the manufacturers have shipped them fully tested.
That hissing sound you hear is a good thing. I would try not to remove plastic plugs on the indoor unit until you are ready to make the connection. To prevent any dirt or moisture entering the pipe work. Obviously follow instructions when connecting to the out door unit, Thank you . and good luck 👍
Hi The manufactures instructions don't indicate there are any negatives if you don't vacuum down the pipe set. I would just take a lot of care making sure all of the pipe work and joints are sound . Follow the instructions and you can't go far wrong . Thank you. and good luck 👍
Can the pipes go directly out the rear of the unit rather than out the side then bent? Also, is there an efficiency benefit if you vacuum the unit?
Hi Yes the pipe s are really better going out of the rear of the unit . I'm not sure there would be a great efficient benefit from vacuuming the pipe set down as apposed to just releasing the refrigerant straight into the pipe set. The only reason I vacuum down is to ensure there are no leaks . Thank you .
R290 is propane, best to make sure you don't have any leaks before running linesets around your property. Ask your house insurance provider if they are happy for DIY propane installs and any eventuality occurring from an undetected leak.....
Hi As long as Manufactures instructions are followed there is no danger. All pipe work and associated fittings and valves must be tested before any refrigerant is introduced . Thank you .
@@HEATSEEKER1428so you carried out a pressure test with oxygen free nitrogen to 1.3 times the maximum working pressure?
A quick question - I am getting one of these electriQ Easy-Fit 12000 BTU units, and plan to put the outside unit higher on the external wall than the indoor unit. I will have the condensation pipe from the indoor unit running down to the ground outside so not going uphill so to speak. But the other pipes will go up from the indoor to external unit. Does that sound okay to you?
Thanks in advance and also for being so responsive to everyone else's queries. Cheers.
HI Sounds ok just remember that condensation comes from out door unit as well , also it will drip when it defrosts. The out door unit is supplied with a drain cock so it the dripping is a problem you could pipe it to a more convenient spot . Thank you and Good luck 👍
Hi what is the 3pin plug cable for? Does the indoor unit need a separate power supply? Thanks
The indoor unit is the only one that's plugged into the wall. The black cable connects the outdoor unit (the condenser) to the indoor one.
Hi the 3 pin plug is the supply to both units via . the indoor unit . This is the only power input and simplify's the installation. .No need for complicated external switches . Thank you .👍
Hi, why didn't you just install the indoor unit on the outside wall, it looked like it would fit.? Then the pipes would be hidden and your wife wouldn't have complained about the box section in her bedroom. Also you gave the impression that you can use plumbers solder to make a joint - copper to copper doesn't need flux - you just need brazing rod. People are going to see this and think they can down to Wickes and get what they need!
Hi yes I did think of fitting the unit on the adjacent wall but after discussion with wife the compromise was where it is . But you are right I think it would have looked ok there and much easier to fit .
Is the pipe vacuum necessary. It states on the website it isnt necessary, so are they just misselling or is it a step that isnt completely necessary.
Hi
No the vacuuming of the pipe set is not necessary . you are right they do say that in the instructions . I would just be careful and not leave the pipe set with open ends too long as you do not want moisture to get into the pipes or too much moist air . Thank you .
@@HEATSEEKER1428 cool thanks for that I'm tempted to fit one I was a machine engineer for 8 years and pretty handy. Is it relatively simple.
@@HA05GER Hi They are simple to fit, and it sounds like you have more than enough skill to fit one . You won't regret it , you will be amazed at how efficient they are . Thank you.
@@HEATSEEKER1428 cheers appreciate the reply. We current have portable units and bloody crap so I think it will be worth it plus we have solar so makes sense to use the energy instead of sending to the grid. Again thanks I appreciate it.
is this the environmental friendly gas version?
Hi yes this is the environmental friendly gas version with a very low G.D.P. ( Global warming potential ) Thank you. 👍
I just tried to order from appliances direct and they want a f-gas certificate number before they will release the order!!
Hi Appiances direct sell both types the if you are not F-gas registered and you want to fit your own mini split the model numbers are for the 9,00 BTU eiQ-9WMINV-V4 and for the 12,000 BTU eiQ-12WMINV-V4 . I hope this is helpful and good luck .👍
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@@HEATSEEKER1428 Hey i have the unit i was under the impression i would not have to vac the lines just connect and go (I appreciate you did in your video) but the instructions clearly call for the line to be vacuumed!! So i guess i need a vac kit now too!
@@jaykilby458 Hi The instructions give both options with or without vacuuming down the pipe set . Thank you and good luck 👍
@@HEATSEEKER1428 i found the issue i ordered an IQ Cool Plus not an electriq Easy Fit!!
Do you have the vacuum pump model or a link to a supplier please?
Hi this is the kit that I got from amazon it has every thing you need .BACOENG 3CFM Vacuum Pump & Manifold Gauge Set - HVAC A/C Refrigeration Kit - Diagnostic R12 R134A R410A R407C- 3 Pin UK Plug. Thank you and good luck 👍
Did I mis something or Am I just being stupid , watching your video I still can’t see the pipe work coming out of the unit hanging on the wall , blower unit i think it’s called the pipes only comes out so far obviously it must have more pipes coming out of the heat pump itself but didn’t see you make those connections and how do you know that the pipes would be long enough to actually be sufficient to placing both units, sorry for being stupid trying to learn but maybe I’m just slow,
Hi There is approx. 1.5 mars of pipe attached to the indoor unit then you get a further pipe set with the out door unit. they join together with fittings supplied.
You are certainly not being stupid, The pipes are with in the boxing that I have formed to the left of the indoor unit . Thank you.
@@HEATSEEKER1428 it looks a bigger unit than the one you had in your hall , may I ask how much was the new unit ?
Hi Yes it is bigger because the area to be heated is bigger . The output of this unit is 12,000 Btu's the output of the unit in the other video is 9.000 Btu's the Cost was £ 650.00 approx £ 100 More than the smaller unit. .
Hope this helps. Thank you
@@HEATSEEKER1428 thanks for replying, will be interested when you report your findings in regards to the running costs in the future. Take care.
Wow! That's about Can$1,000. Here in Canada we're looking at a retail price of around Can$2,500. Unfortunately, we're regularly ripped off by both suppliers and retailers. My guess is that we just don't have enough competition in the marketplace.@@HEATSEEKER1428
I understand that Appliances Direct have been fined thousands of pounds for supplying these split systems & they now have to be installed by an F-gas engineer…
I think you must be mistaken. Appliances direct have the units for sale . There is no requirement for F-gas engineer as the refrigerant is R290. Thank you .
@@HEATSEEKER1428I’ve been researching heating alternatives for a house with no gas supply - that’s how I discovered. REFCOM reported Buy It Direct to the Environment Agency, who sued. Jan 2024.
The units are still for sale, but cannot be bought without evidence that they will be installed by a registered engineer.
I’m now looking at the monobloc type that are hermetically sealed & still DIY
@@HEATSEEKER1428 i just went to order one from Appliances Direct and they will not release the order until you have supplied a certificate number of a F-Gas qualified engineer
As a refrigeration engineer of over 20 years i have a few issues with this "installation video"
Yes you definitely do need to use a vacuum pump as any moisture will cause corrosion of internal parts and premature failure and your vacuum pump must be A2l certified as r290 is highly flammable, but before this you must and i mean must carry out a pressure test with oxygen free nitrogen as r290 is no joke.
You really should not be showing people how to join pipes with "soldering" as brazing should be the only option when dealing with the pressures of refrigeration.
In my opinion its a joke that companies like appliance direct are allowed to sell these r290 split equipment as "diy" when they are the most dangerous of all for a amateur to install.
Hi thank you for your comments. Although I do vaccum down the pipe set in my installation . Manufacturers instructions (electriQ Easy-Fit 9000 BTU A++ WiFi Smart Wall-Mounted Split Air Conditioner ) says alternative methods can be used. Regarding the soldering of the pipe set . The solder and flux that I use suitable for this job. Thank you .
As you probably know compared to other refrigerants R290 has a very low G.W.P, and as long as all manufacturers instructions are adhered to there will be no problems . Thank you .
You need to be an F-Gas registered engineer to install.....You need to purge and pressure test with Nitrogen, then pull a vacuum to about 200 microns etc etc....regulations are there for a reason
you are right when installing units that have a very high G.W.P You need the F_gas registration . However R 290 has a very low GWP. so no F gas required. The manufacturers instructions for these units state that there is no need to vacuum down the pipe set before introducing R290 into the system. Is R290 the future ? Thank you 🙂
One major disadvantage of R290 is its flammability, which is classified as A3 according to the safety classification system.
Overall, while the flammability of R290 may be a disadvantage, its low GWP and high energy efficiency make it an attractive option for environmentally conscious consumers and businesses. As with any HVAC system, proper installation and maintenance are key to ensuring safety and optimal performance. However, it's important to consider the potential risks associated with using R290 refrigerant, also known as propane. While R290 is an environmentally friendly and energy-efficient refrigerant, one of its main disadvantages is its flammability. In the event of a serious accident or a series of accidents, there is a possibility that there could be significant damage to property or even loss of life.
This means that while R290 is a more environmentally friendly refrigerant option, it requires careful handling and installation to ensure safety. Installers, service engineers and some users of R290 HVAC systems need to be trained in proper safety procedures and follow strict guidelines to prevent accidents.
Despite this disadvantage, R290 is still being considered as a viable alternative to traditional refrigerants such as R32. In fact, some experts predict that the market for R290 will be bigger than R32 due to the upcoming phase-out of refrigerants with a GWP greater than 750 by 2025.
On the flip side to this, if a major accident were to occur, it could lead to public outcry and a push for rapid regulation change. This could result in a ban on the use of R290 gas or significantly stricter regulations on its handling and storage. Such changes could have a significant impact on businesses that rely on R290-based refrigeration systems, as they would have to make costly changes to comply with the new regulations. It's also worth noting that the use of R290 refrigerant requires specialized training and equipment for handling and installation. If the regulations were to become more stringent, it could make it even more challenging for businesses to find qualified technicians to service and maintain their R290 systems.
While R290 refrigerant has many benefits, it's crucial to consider the potential risks and be proactive in implementing proper safety measures to mitigate them, it's essential to weigh the benefits against the potential risks and ensure that businesses are fully aware of both when deciding whether to use R290 refrigerant or continue using a refrigerant like R32 on a limited phase out schedule.
That’s just you trying the ‘Spooky Monster’ trick mate, legally, anyone can install R290 appliances. Your views are irrelevant on the subject.
Gas god says it’s ok to go back in the water.
@@langy1318 As I said, your patronising drivel is pointless son.
@@TheDickPuller OK big time by the way don’t forget to have a word with your house insurance provider if it is ok rather than someone who’s right up his own arse !
@@langy1318 What my own Insurance?? What, regarding a fully registered, qualified, trained & Competent Engineer In LPG, fitting LPG Equipment. Mate, they’d not have a problem.
It’s you that’s got the problem son. Spouting all that meaningless drivel. I bet you pleasure yourself reading all that nonsense & thinking how wonderful you are😂😂😂😂
Fantastic Video, speaking as someone who’s a Plumber/Heating Engineer. You certainly look like you know what you’re doing👍👍
What units are these & are they Invert units?
Isn’t it a crazy country our beloved UK, a simple installation of a A2A unit like this & there’s no Government Grants for them😡😡.
As someone who’s been involved in fitting all types of Heat Pumps, over the years - Air Source, Ground Source etc etc etc. I can assure anyone, there’s infinitely more involved with anything other than A2A.
You certainly achieved an excellent COP on these units & the use can easily supplement your Gas CH.
Thanks for sharing & I hope you make a full recovery with your damaged hand.
Hi these are inverter units and they are marketed by electric. They use R290 as the refrigerant so no F gas qualifications required. They truly are saving us money on our heating bills. I too am a heating engineer I fit air to water units in large houses but these air to air mini splits are so effective and reasonably priced , They are definitely worth fitting
@@HEATSEEKER1428 I’d be interested to know where you got confirmation on R290 having no requirement for a F-Gas ticket? Not that I’ve got a F-Gas ticket. I was recently told I couldn’t work on units running on Co2 as a refrigerant Gas. Which crazy, it only a Pub Gas & Pumped out every Gas Boiler flue!!!
Hi you cannot work on units with the standard refrigerant. in fact you cannot even buy units with standard refrigerant with out f gas qualifications but as R290 has a very low G.W.P. it is safe for any one who is confident to fit. G.W.P. =Global Warming Potential. Thank you .
@@HEATSEEKER1428 Oh I completely appreciate what you’re saying, but according to colleges you still need an F-Gas Ticket. Crazy I know.
There’s always the exception when it’s your own home, you can do what you like👍👍
Thanks
Hi Manufacturers instructions state that you do not need F Gas Thank you @@TheDickPuller