Turning TRASH into TERRAIN - Sci Fi Base from Packing Foam
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I finally turn some garbage packing foam into some cool terrain for Stargrave, Starfinder, Warhammer, Cyberpunk RED, Star Wars Legion, or whatever sci fi themed tabletop game you can think of.
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I think if it's a Star Wars Tatooine vibe, then you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to call the little bits 'Greebles'
I think Trent from Miscast actually calls them greebles in the product description.
Thats...thats what they're called?
Greedos?
@@OhSick_ Jeremy shot first
@@Hobbyrepubliken It's a term coined at Industrial Light and Magic, some say by Lucas himself, for all the random little bits of visual detail tacked on to everything, which, along with abuse and grime, define the Star Wars aesthetic.
this acrylic grout interests me! Great result, doesn't look like a fan box at all.
Great build. I started playing RED not too long ago and it has a really fun combat system. This would also fit in perfectly in my SW5e campaign.
I’m sorry if it’s a stupid question, but what is RED?
@@____________838 guessing cyberpunk red
Very cool stuff! I think MidWinter MInis (or Miscast?) has a video on using styrofoam packing to make some cool 40K ruins. This was very well done. The one thing I will say that also amazes me, is your ability to make these terrain pieces AND paint so many minis! Those new SciFi minis are awesome! You continue to awe me with your mad skillz! :)
Yea, the mini painting off camera to go with the builds is a big time sink people probably don’t realize 😄 but as I get better at it I get decent results faster.
Gert from Dark Matter Workshop channel has a really cool toxic waste facility build from styrofoam packing. Check it out, it really is awesome.
I used this method to bang out a bunch of buildings for Stargarve. I work in an IT department and we get all kinds of foam packing with the servers, routers, printers, PC, and all the other gear we order. Grabbed a bunch, cut and glued, put a bunch of greeble bits on, and a basic paint job. Worked great and I was able to make eight buildings of various sizes and shapes in no time.
One of the things that I noticed is that the pressed or inset markings already on the foam lend themselves greatly to putting some inset greebles in place. Where the rectangular model or serial number is for the foam would make a good place to put a grate or vent that is inset on the ground, and the circular materials/recycling mark would be great for a manhole cover or vent.
A really great use of the foam and the build came out looking amazing. I wish that I had the space to put up and display something like that in my home office.
It's nice to see a video that doesn't involve pink XPS foam
@@BullScrapPracEff no ima going to be stubborn and stay here 😆
I’ve used poly filler/ spakle mixed with pva and paint to seal polystyrene. Gives a really good texture and dries solid. Might be worth a try
I use a combination of spackle, pencil/wood shavings, & various sand sizes, depending on the look I'm going for.
My first ever terrain I did using the foam inserts from a fridge and a washing machine. If you are looking for "Sci-fi" shapes then those foam inserts are amazing for it, they got weird shapes that once you cover them up (you can use spackle), paint and weather them it looks so good, plus its recycling too.
If you are struggling for players; you could pick up Stargrave and its expansion, Quarantine 37. This gives you a solid solo skirmish experience.
The terrain looks great with that paint job; however, how about adding a few signs and adverts to add some spot colour?
Maybe some "Wanted" posters...dead or encased...a million carbon credits.
I like how the bottom is open. It would be cool to put like a bright neon light in it
Amazes me the different ways people can see the same shape and even finished project. Definitely gives me spaceship port vibes
It would be fun to get 10 builders to make something out of the same oddly shaped bit of packing foam to see what they all do.
@Black Magic Craft - I seem to always come back to just AMAZING when it comes to your builds.. I can never think of any other words..
I just made the leap from board games to tabletop RPG's and Five Parsecs From Home is my book of choice. This type of terrain, and method will come in handy for sure. Cheers and thank you.
Looks great! The grout really masks the foam nicely. It could totally fit right next to Docking Bay 94.
Using recycled materials really gives it a sci fi vibe. I really like how futuristic and how versatile sci fi rpg characters and dioramas can be, there is no limit to the imagination.
Awesome job.
Typical, just when I start saving for a house and therefore am cutting out any and all unnecessary expenses, I see this. Those Loot minis look REALLY good, I'm sorely tempted.
Speaking of looking really good, this has to be the best packing polystyrene terrain build I've seen, definitely a good call using the grout. I think maybe grouting then applying the greeble panels might have been a good call, though.
I'm slowly going through all your videos. Love your work, even from 2 years ago. Just had to say that you just made me look at the foam packaging so differently. Never thought of that. I have always made my stuff from scratch. So Very Cool Mister!!!
I can absolutely see Tatooine in this build, but personally I get more of a late 80's anime sci-fi vibe like Venus Wars. Awesome build in either case.
I love that you're listening to trapped under plastic in the background
I was going to post the same, but thought I'd scan the comments first to see if anyone else noticed.
Great Use of those pesky foam inserts! Thanks for the inspiration.
I always used polystyrene packaging as play sets for my 1/72 soldiers when i was younger.
Those old tubes of model glue made great battle damage.
Looks really great. Wish I would've seen this ALOT earlier being I just finished a tables worth of Tatooine inspired terrain the day before this video came out lol
If you're looking for more Sci Fi roleplaying games, give Stars Without Number a look. It's a game loosely built on Original/Basic D&D, but with a lot of SF bits and quality-of-life improvements.
If I recall correctly, the game's base rulebook is free to download.
That moment during the build when you become inspired by the piece you are working on is a great feeling.
Great job, love it. Could have used some plastic canvas grid work on the flat surfaces, would be functional with the 1" grid too.
A couple of years ago I made a tower out of the packaging for a cheap drugstore desktop fountain, inspired by the inside shape being a cylinder, and carved the foam away to make the exterior look like a pillar of stone carved into tower shape.
I built it in four 2-1/2 inch slices, with alignment dowels that let us use it for structures of one to five levels, depending on what we need.
It gets plenty of use, though I do wish I knew about pre-mix acrylic grout back then to hide the pebbly styrofoam texture.
I'm not normally a fan of scrap styrofoam builds because of their bulk, limited playability, and obvious origins but I appreciate the strong techniques you used on this project, and think it turned out well.
Hell yeah! This is perfectly timed, I saved some packing foam from a new vacuum for terrain just like this, gonna use this vid for inspiration. Thanks!🤘
I highly recommend using the inserts from things as terrain. I suggest trying to find the papier-mâché cardboard type ones though. they already have a stone-like texture that is perfect and they are usually a good height/depth. I have a sweet sewer terrain I built using one along with a toilet paper roll and straws for pipes. It does take up a lot of storage space, however...
I have sections of the stuff which are about a metre long which remind me of the "ribs" of a starship hull. impractical, but that stuff is terrific. On the outside it resembles structures, useful for a range of scales, and sometimes you turn it over and there's a room of sorts just begging to be fought over.
Not sure I want to visit their restroom but it certainly has a 'lived-in' quality - great build Jeremy
I expect the door to have a sign reading "(the worst) toilet (in Scotland)"
@@MonkeyJedi99 '2nd only to the worst toilet in Scotland' And the bloody suppositories can stay there!!
@@negotiableaffections yay! Someone got the reference!
Nice job using left over resin supports for the antenna
Yes! Sci-Fi terrain! Keep doing this!!
I love almost everything you make for this channel. The styrofoam base doesn't do it for me this time, but I'm glad you got so pumped for it.
If Loot does mech minis, I might be sold. I really want to try out Lancer with some friends and having mechs on the table would be awesome.
Also, if you didn't already, check Five parsecs from home, it's a solo narrative sci fi skirmish game in the vibe of Firefly.
I agree, a lot of terrain items made from packaging materials just look like packaging material.
I'd be tempted to dry-brush some silver and rust on the greebles.
Remember Dungeons and Lasers stretch goals have lots of sci-fi bits.
Yup. Used some on this 🙂
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial Awesome! Love your videos.
Yay! I can't get any special foam here and I've been using normal foam to craft terrain and I like it. It's fun to hand carve.
One of the easierst AND cheapest ways to enjoy this kind of setting (space wild west) is Core Space from Battle Systems imho. No GM required, coop pve / optional pvp. Minis, neoprene mat, cardboard terrain and a story-driven campaign all in one box.
Never heard of this and it looks great!
Core Space is a fantastic game! I’ve been playtesting the new Kickstarter and expansions and they’re great. Get hold of a base set - you won’t regret it!
Yeah I made some old ruin set up from some packing foam and it came out good the second amount of effert. I even used the melting effect.
you need to get some simple blinking led lights to give it that active spaceport feel
All hail packaging foam !
Great build 👌
Scifi is a cool diversion from grimdark.
What about grimdark sci fi?
I love this, I played many a game of Warhammer on tables covered in cut up melted and painted Styrofoam packing. Me and my buddies had two big trash bags full of the stuff.
That build came out amazing! I don't have an eye for turning packaging into builds. Nothing ever looks like anything to me when I have it in my hands. But when you stacked those together, even still white, I could totally see what you were talking about.
Oh this reminds me when I used the packing foam from my new laptop to make some easy ruins. Had to cover them in some spackel to make sure it was solid enough. But I the end they look like some nice solid concrete building of some kind
Very cool build. I play in a Star Wars rpg game and can totally see that being used in our games.
This has been my go to terrain hack since 4e!! I still keep my eyes open on job sites for this stuff. Great video!
So cool. Don't know how much of that stuff I laying around, but I know it's a lot. Now I have a use for it!😊
EVA foam for the win. Awesome video as usual. Thanks for sharing!
Another good game you could check out would be 5 parsecs from home. It's a solo adventure skirmish game with a focus on the story of your characters.
Dude, you should build a couple scifi spacecrafts, like some kind of mother ship and a cruiser, that would be really fun/creative to build and I have to imagine would do well on TH-cam, especially if you went all out on it.
Starfinder, super cool system. Ran a 1.5 year game with my current group of about 4 years and let me tell you, if you plan on homebrewing your setting as I did, I highly recommend baking a hex grid, or square grid into your map, and make your own system for star travel and time passed. Best thing I can recommend is to read over the Starfinder setting and build your worlds in a similar sort of template or else the in book travel time system wont work for you. Game is not intended for Galaxy spanning quests or anything. Starfinder is way more about exploring planets, and completing many quests or unlocking many hidden secrets or unexplored areas rather than being in space and traveling long distances and getting into huge space battles space opera style. Even though the art in the book would lead you to believe the complete opposite. The starship combat system is clunky, and slow. It all makes sense, and it's pretty cool even, as the PCs get to build their own starship if you let them (alternatively, you can build it and give it to them if the party doesn't want to). But I had a starship combat we got into take nearly 9 hours to complete. and the encounter was pretty much rated for their level. Perhaps a bit below. It's fun in tier, (1-5) sucks in tier 2 (6-10), and gets fun again in tier 3 (11-15), and I can't speak for tier 4 as my party and I did not reach those levels before our campaign ended. Our Party changed a couple of times throughout that campaign as characters left the party and new ones joined. in total, I got to experience the Soldier, Mechanic, Technomancer, Solarian, Operative, Witchwarper, and Vanguard. None of the spellcasters I experienced were very good, martial outclassed them in combat in every regard. The Mechanic being almost like a beastmaster ranger, was a little weaker than the other 4. Your characters are limited to what items they can buy not by money, but by money and level. Every item has a level, and your characters by game rules are not allowed to buy higher than two levels above themselves. Supposedly if you lift this, it messes up game balancing, but I never used their encounter XP builder much cause it doesn't work very well even when you do follow the leveling rule. This is never explained in the game's base setting so you as a DM are just kinda left to scramble to figure out why. Same with a Starship, by technicality it doesn't cost the party anything for a starship or to level it up over time. The cost for a starship is abstracted to an arbitrary number that is basically purely for balancing sake, the game recommends explaining this as a wealthy investor or something along those lines, but then never gives any explanation for what to do if you would like the party to not start with a ship, or run on a mercenary cruiser, or anything like that. I get that you can technically just not use the PC starship rules till higher level if you wanted to, but the systems are there, and the fact that theres no credit value assigned to starships or parts in anyway means you're going to have to homebrew/wing it the first time your party attempts to search starship wreckage or if your party is as crazy as mine, try to scrap it for creds. The layout of the books isn't amazing. It's not terrible, tends to follow the "character creation in front, rest of the shit in the back" formula, but Paizo as much as I love the company, loves to do this foot notes thing in their books, and they usually have very important information, but they are extremely easy to miss. Honest I hate D&D 5e, but the creatures in the Monster Manual, and how they always explain how everything surrounding the creature works right there, should be the golden standard. Unfortunately it's not, but that is one thing 5e definitely did right and they don't do in Starfinder which is unfortunate.
TLDR; Pathfinder 1e revisions to 3.5e basis (If you're familiar with 3.5 this game will make a lot of sense to you), classes tend to be swingy at best in terms of power level, spell casters are generally garbage but the mystic is the better of the two, starship combat is clunky, slow, and overly complicated due to one mechanic, there are a lot of mechanics in the game that just work a certain way because they have to for levelling and number balancing sake that don't have any actual lore or world explanation in the base game leaving it on the DM, item bloat is insane, a lot of items are overly complicated in how they work, the layout of the books is merely ok, not worse than most 3.5, but definitely not an improvement, and the bestiaries never fix the fact that a lot of creatures run on abilities or feats that aren't explained anywhere but in the back of the book.
Those are some of my biggest complaints. The things you're getting out of dealing with that I believe sometimes outweigh the bad. Because of the way class abilities work for most classes, and that it's a 3.5e base system, there is an insane amount of customization to be had in character creation/levelling. We never came across a character type that we couldn't make in the system. It does tend to produce very enjoyable PCs. If you allow your players, there's a large number of creatures from the bestiaries that are playable races, and those options alone are insane in quantity. Same goes for items, and it can be very cool. The one other major benefit is that as a DM there is essentially a rule for 90% of things, so if you prefer that as I do, it'll probably be up your alley.
some LED lights around the landing platform would be awesome
Reeeeaally want to see some Stargrave stuff! Or other Sci-fi games you’ve picked up! War bands, characters, terrain, objectives etc
If that base is as big as it looks, you could make a separate piece for the interior of the bar/hunters den/etc.
Yes... finally!!! I've be waiting for you to cross over to the dark sci-fi side.. great stuff...
You need to invite seth and hank over for some cyberpunk 😀
Maybe some original Dryloc will also help cover that expanded foam texture and make it look like stone? Just a thought.
Cool… we used to do this many years ago when we first started. Saving styrofoam packing bits! Also used books and cereal boxes. We’ve come a lonnnnnggggg way!
Really dig this. May have to play with something like this for a Battletech skirmish.
I've looked at styrofoam packing pieces for decades like, this could make some sick ass sci fi terrain! Never new a product to cover it to make it workable, pre mixed acrylic grout, thanks!
These kind are always my favorite
I love the line on sealing the pigment! I have been wondering for ages yet everyone hums and haws about how they do it with nothing really simple. Slap some varnish on it, happy done.
IPA or white spirit does the job nicely too. and sometimes you'll get a better result than a matte varnish, which can actually send the ultra-matte pigment towards the glossy spectrum.
Great build Jeremy! It reminds me a bit of the spice mines of Kessel from the Solo movie.
apply grout before assembly, or at least before attaching the plastic detail pieces
My favorite part of this video is watching you twist and turn the raw pieces looking for the finished build hiding in them. That's exactly how my brain works.
Have I mentioned that you do the best ad segments on TH-cam? The cool imagery you get from the sponsors helps but your engaging style sets you apart from the usual carnival barker other you tubers turn themselves into.
That 90's feel ❤️
For people who are into Sci-Fi builds I recommend Boylei Hobby Time's Sci-Fi Wild West dioramas, as well. It's in a different scale and style but I found it really inspiring
This is definitely a cool build and I was feeling the same about how these minis put me in mind for a Sci-Fi setting. The one thing I have to say about the welcome packs for both the sci-fi setting and the fantasy, is they both make me want to do a full tavern and cantina build...and I don't even really do builds, lol!
I hope you take this further, I love the plague city series for example, but you hit it right on the head...an Event Horizon-esque build for the zombie/tech minis this month could be really cool.
Fantastic vid sir. Love the sci-fi non specific stuff. Makes me wish I had some space to actually do this stuff (store it after).
Fun fact:
In the corridors of the starship Enterprise, those nonspecific bits of machinery poking out of the walls were also made of packing Styrofoam.
I enjoyed the color. Hopefully we can see more colorful stuff
1:15 glad to see another Sprude!
I have been wanting to get into a SciFi table top game myself. After re-watching the 2012 "Judge Dredd" two weeks ago had me looking at ebay, for a classic 90's set of Necromunda and options to print those parts.
Another game I found myself looking at was "Aliens: Another Glorious Day in The Corps", a tabletop version of the 1986 "Aliens" with "Warhammer 40k Space Hulk" like game play.
I feel like we got the same fan cause those shape look familiar - perfect project video
That's an AWESOME job on that build brother! Absolutely love it! Made me want to start a project with my OG Millennium Falcon Storage Carrying Case. My dad had it as a kid, and when I was growing up he hung it from my ceiling chasing a couple Tie Fighters. I want to paint it up and make it look aged and hang it in my son's room. 3 generations of use!
Very very very cool and creative work!!!!! Greetings from Germany! I still have my own pacing material project still in my shelf... A perfect SF transport ship I will call Spacemule....
This is freaking amazing! No way anyone would ever suspect that the final product was a couple of chunks of styrofoam packaging and some little random bits and pieces. Looks so...trying to find another word that fits but really....it's just simply.....AMAZING!!!!
This is by far one of my favorite things to do. Stashing heaps of junk for a trash build is also fun!
Dude... using print supports as antennae... PURE GENIOUS use of basically garbage... bravo sir.
Love the idea of using grout, good 👍 👌
That is a super cool use of the packing material. Well done!
it looks almost like the one side of docking bay 94 from star wars looks awesome
Highly creative skills at work
It certainly seems like you've gotten your crafting spark back. This turned out really nice
I LOVE these kind of builds. Always feels like some good karma points saving styrofoam from landfill, and it looks fantastic, great job mate!
Might be a good idea to apply the grout before sticking the greeblies on...
...Also, mixing glue into your paint is a great idea for improving adhesion, BUT when applying it, use a brush that you don't particularly care about; no matter how thoroughly you clean your brush, you'll never get all the solidified glue out of it.
Well dang. Now I want to make some Z-Rust terrain, or try for an iFuture glass and white ceramic look...
So many new words!
Oh man, yeah... this right here.
Yeah, man.
Bigtime.
Tight episode, my friend. So well-done. And all set to that music...
This was the "piece to resistance", as they say. ;)
Awe shucks, thanks man. Means the world.
Awesome build Jeremy! I recent used some packing styrofoam from a new dishwasher and converted it to large towers of a mine shaft players could ascend or descend. Love that acrylic grout to transform the texture of foam. 🤘
More awesome sci-fi stuff would be great! Particularly loved that skeleton-spaceman thing you showed - there's loads of different sci-fi subgenres I've like to see you explore, but I'd love to see more takes on your cyberpunk street diorama - definitely one of my favourite builds!
This looks like a Level C Planetary Starport in Traveller
great video (as always). Quick hack: I've had success with atomized liquid hand sanitizer as the binder for pigments.
Interesting!
This was so cool dude you did great i WISH I was this creative
I would suggest texturing the building before putting the grebbles on... that way they don't get so mucked up, unless that is what you want.
As we say around here, "Half of one, six dozen of the other."
Best use of packaging foam ever! Looks awesome
Very cool, Jeremy!
So happy to see more stuff. When i don't see stuff on thursdays I get a bit worried something's going on behind the scenes. I happy to see more content and I hope everything is well as we get to see more and more awesome stuff from you!
My release schedule is just more spaced out now to give me a little more production time.
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial Gotcha, I must've missed the update if you posted it. Nonetheless another awesome video. Love what you do and all of the fun and creativity you bring to this hobby!