Commenting here and the other video. My fav video was "when in doubt, place it out." Before, I would place on solely my wishes, and would get blindsided by what others picked. Being able to think through what others wanted ahead of time allowed my 2nd placement to always be stronger, which has drastically increased my gameplay.
I'm so neurotic I was doing this for a long time as a beginner and intermediate player, but in my head, without the tactical nous, such that it would take ages before I played, annoy my friends and family, and fail to remember or have it clearly set out in my head and so be self-defeating in the process. I'd try to invent all the strategic and tactical knowledge in my head in a single game lmao I wish my earlier self had seen this vid. I can therefore recommend this vid and playing it out in hard copy form. Draw it out or use your own cities if you have to (and they'd be confused enough to conceal exactly what you're doing). You'd probably look less like an idiot in the long run
I instinctively always took strong wheat as first position on the assumption i would get locked out of wheat if i dont. The only time i dont do this is if i can see strong wheat on a port that is unlikely to be taken. I also like to lock players out of wheat as 4th and 5th position if the players before me got too greedy snagging brick and ore. Even if i dont need the extra wheat i just take it to lock them out.
I think thats your best viedeo so far, I have to say. 👍 Start at the game is really important as it influences the whole rest of the game so I think people should be mus h more informed about it. 🤔 But never ever grey takes the sheep spot 9/10/3. I can't Imagine that this is the right decision if it takes the 10 wood for the 1st seatlement (which I'd personally do) because orange has the 5s to win the game and upgrade very fast. 🤔 But nice to see your thouguts 👌
Wow! I love how quick you must do this in real time as the game is going. I want to get better and these videos are so helpful. For future videos, I’d like to know how long you’ve been playing and how did you get so good. I’m sure through experience. But it’s be nice. Anyways, thanks again!
Hey, love the video and content - learning heaps about catan from you! Just a heads up, I think some viewers might be turned away by the r slur earlier in the vid, even if you're quoting someone else. Maybe next time you can censor it to show viewers you're not so cool with it? Anyway keep the content coming, love it!
I'd have liked if you didn't just repeat the no wheat equals defeat mantra and actually walked is through whether that would be true here. There are winnable games without starting wheat. Was this one of them? Also, that position have you your best start, but did it give another player an even better one? It looks like you start at a disadvantage. Would another starting spot have balanced it out better?
I understand why you avoided the 5/8/10 because you would not get wheat, but in your scenario, orange winds up with both. If you are playing competent opponents, wouldn't blocking player two be a priority?
Nice! I'm just not sure the game allows you that much time to map out everybody's moves. And even if the game did, I haven't encountered any other players with that amount of patience. After about 20 seconds message start popping up asking what your problem is. (when we play the tabletop game board version with friends, we always allow LOADS of time for everybody's 1st two settlements)
Good Observation! I don’t play much on the actual elo ladder anymore. I arrange custom games with competitive players. In custom games you have infinite time. Also, this took me about 6 minutes to figure out.
If someone complains that I'm taking too long in an online game, I just respond "I'm thinking" and keep going. Placement's the most important decision of the game, so any reasonable player should be ok with that. And as the last comment pointed out, you'll get faster at this with practice.
How come you wouldnt place your second settlement on 10/11/3? (If you go 9/5/10) You get a free road to start and can go to the 9/10/2 and cut off the 9/4/11 person
Why isn't the 10-3-11 a viable 4th placement option? It give you better sheep, you can cut off white to the 9 10 2 spot and potentially build on the northwest coast.
@@filipzgela6087 When you go to actually place on the Wood port, you pay 5 points of Wood for building on only the 3 Wool if you start on the 8/4/3, furthermore you lose the 8/4/desert, and you leave your opponents more room on the board
After having played this match, would there have been some merit to placing on the desert/road? It looked like you were blocking yourself on an easier settlement option around the 12 sheep. It would have costed 1 less road, or the road that you used for current placement could have allowed connection of your areas.
Saying the r word in this video is one of my regrets and I wish I could take it back. Unfortunately, I didn’t realize how insensitive it was at the time. I hope you forgive me. Personally, I don’t say this in my vocabulary but I was simply trying to summarize what someone else said to me. No matter what the context was, I should have not said it.
As great as this explanation is, one just dont have the time to analyse it in such detail at game time.
With practice, this process becomes a lot lot faster. Y
Commenting here and the other video.
My fav video was "when in doubt, place it out." Before, I would place on solely my wishes, and would get blindsided by what others picked. Being able to think through what others wanted ahead of time allowed my 2nd placement to always be stronger, which has drastically increased my gameplay.
Thanks! I saw your comment on the other video. I'm glad I could advance your thinking!
Awesome video - you have upped your game. Detail in this is fantastic.
Alex Bustamante thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed!
I'm so neurotic I was doing this for a long time as a beginner and intermediate player, but in my head, without the tactical nous, such that it would take ages before I played, annoy my friends and family, and fail to remember or have it clearly set out in my head and so be self-defeating in the process. I'd try to invent all the strategic and tactical knowledge in my head in a single game lmao
I wish my earlier self had seen this vid. I can therefore recommend this vid and playing it out in hard copy form. Draw it out or use your own cities if you have to (and they'd be confused enough to conceal exactly what you're doing). You'd probably look less like an idiot in the long run
Hahaha once before I used my opponents' settlements and placed it for them, then took it back lol. Now I realize how stupid that looks lol.
@@DyLightedCatan hahahaha but did you win?
10:05... I salute you sir. Not many people thinks of likes and comments as correct as you are.
Thank you! I try not to beg for likes, but rather earn them and use it for feedback. I appreciate it!
I instinctively always took strong wheat as first position on the assumption i would get locked out of wheat if i dont. The only time i dont do this is if i can see strong wheat on a port that is unlikely to be taken. I also like to lock players out of wheat as 4th and 5th position if the players before me got too greedy snagging brick and ore. Even if i dont need the extra wheat i just take it to lock them out.
Great thoughts! You're method guarantees you wheat and is a lot safer for sure!
I think thats your best viedeo so far, I have to say. 👍
Start at the game is really important as it influences the whole rest of the game so I think people should be mus h more informed about it. 🤔
But never ever grey takes the sheep spot 9/10/3. I can't Imagine that this is the right decision if it takes the 10 wood for the 1st seatlement (which I'd personally do) because orange has the 5s to win the game and upgrade very fast. 🤔
But nice to see your thouguts 👌
Thank you. I worked really hard on this one! I don't think there is a 9/10/3 spot. Is that a mistake?
@@DyLightedCatan oh sry I meant the 9/10/11 😅
Wow! I love how quick you must do this in real time as the game is going. I want to get better and these videos are so helpful.
For future videos, I’d like to know how long you’ve been playing and how did you get so good. I’m sure through experience. But it’s be nice.
Anyways, thanks again!
Hey, love the video and content - learning heaps about catan from you! Just a heads up, I think some viewers might be turned away by the r slur earlier in the vid, even if you're quoting someone else. Maybe next time you can censor it to show viewers you're not so cool with it?
Anyway keep the content coming, love it!
Yea! Good point. I realized later that I should've changed the word entirely. Thanks for bringing it up and showing concern.
I'd have liked if you didn't just repeat the no wheat equals defeat mantra and actually walked is through whether that would be true here. There are winnable games without starting wheat. Was this one of them?
Also, that position have you your best start, but did it give another player an even better one? It looks like you start at a disadvantage. Would another starting spot have balanced it out better?
Question: At 7:17: According to rule 18, you should choose the rare resource right? So if that's the case, wouldn't the rare resource be the 8 brick?
I understand why you avoided the 5/8/10 because you would not get wheat, but in your scenario, orange winds up with both. If you are playing competent opponents, wouldn't blocking player two be a priority?
Nice! I'm just not sure the game allows you that much time to map out everybody's moves. And even if the game did, I haven't encountered any other players with that amount of patience. After about 20 seconds message start popping up asking what your problem is. (when we play the tabletop game board version with friends, we always allow LOADS of time for everybody's 1st two settlements)
Good Observation! I don’t play much on the actual elo ladder anymore. I arrange custom games with competitive players. In custom games you have infinite time. Also, this took me about 6 minutes to figure out.
With games, you'll see faster and react faster - that's point of practice
If someone complains that I'm taking too long in an online game, I just respond "I'm thinking" and keep going. Placement's the most important decision of the game, so any reasonable player should be ok with that. And as the last comment pointed out, you'll get faster at this with practice.
Sry liked already before the video, but i liked it so i guess its ok :D
i understood everything, but idk if I can do it fast like you
Note that this video is 10 minutes long, and everyone at the table would be yelling at you to hurry up.
good stuff!
Rakoonial V Haha! Thank you man.
Great call
How come you wouldnt place your second settlement on 10/11/3? (If you go 9/5/10) You get a free road to start and can go to the 9/10/2 and cut off the 9/4/11 person
I have strong wood too.
Why isn't the 10-3-11 a viable 4th placement option? It give you better sheep, you can cut off white to the 9 10 2 spot and potentially build on the northwest coast.
cause those are terrible numbers
Another fantastic video! How did the game play out?
Benjamin Johnson I left the results in the description!
DylLighted - Catan
Thanks. Also, I love the clip of music you have at the end of your videos, it just seems perfect every time 😊
@@benjaminjohnson8377 Thank you! It's one of my favorite songs!
I hadn’t heard the song before your videos, but have listened to it several times since. I think the section you use is on point!
When neurotic, use a mnemonic!
Well said! I like this one!
When you're looking for the Wood port, why would you ever prefer the 8/4/3 over the 3/4/9?
because the 8 is more likely to roll than 9
@@filipzgela6087 When you go to actually place on the Wood port, you pay 5 points of Wood for building on only the 3 Wool if you start on the 8/4/3, furthermore you lose the 8/4/desert, and you leave your opponents more room on the board
How do you put "placeholder" settlements on the board?
Johan Karpantschof I’m using a software called tabletop simulator which allows me to do that.
@@DyLightedCatan Thank you very much! Appreciate the videos.
Do you have the probing questions video still?
Sorry, I decided to not do it. I just feel as if it's too... snakey? I hate the content that goes into it.
After having played this match, would there have been some merit to placing on the desert/road?
It looked like you were blocking yourself on an easier settlement option around the 12 sheep. It would have costed 1 less road, or the road that you used for current placement could have allowed connection of your areas.
but you lose out on the starting sheep that you need for your 2nd settlement without trading
@@doboy Yep! Well said.
thx boss
No problem!
Dude, seriously? You just said the R word in this video. Wtf is wrong with you. It’s not okay to say that word.
Saying the r word in this video is one of my regrets and I wish I could take it back. Unfortunately, I didn’t realize how insensitive it was at the time. I hope you forgive me. Personally, I don’t say this in my vocabulary but I was simply trying to summarize what someone else said to me. No matter what the context was, I should have not said it.