@Tangman4209 maybe The point of doing it is for fun and to learn what it takes to recreate that sound. Learning fun and personal enjoyment. Also many people end up finding their own sound when experimenting with different rigs and signal chains . Most importantly there is no reason to do it if you have the gear and ability. Why do so many poeple always want to place all these weird rules and restrictions on what people can learn or do with their own gear. Just because you don't see the point in this doesn't prove its pointless.. A 100 watt amp in not going to be usable in most situations for every guitar player alive but you should know how to dial one in for the situations you can use them in .. In reality you don't need a point to copy another players tone . You do it for fun and because you can . If it makes you happy to chase Jimmy Page tone there is no reason not to
The tone is good but he is still pretty far off. I have heard others get much Closer . Pages tone was much cleaner than what you hear in this Video . I have heard people get closer with less expensive set ups. Page Played Modded Marshall Super Bass amps and not Superlead Amps. His main Amp beginning in early 72 was a Modded 1968 Superbass with 6550 tubes and not EL34s. Prior to February 72 Page was using 2 custom built 1969 100 watt Hiwatt heads which were a slightly boosted version of the Hiwatt DR 103 Amps They were cleaner than a Marshall but had more overdrive than a Standard DR 103. They were very unique sounding. Page used those from July 69 to The end of December 1971. He went Marshall in ealry 72 and the 68 Super bass was his main which he also ran through Marhsall 1982 model Bass cabs that had Celestion Bass Cone G12H30 speakers . He had 2 and sometimes 3 additional Marshall 100s which were modded eventually as well around 1975. They were modded for more clean Headroom and the EL34s were replaced with KT88s and the superbass had the 6550 tubes . So Page never really used EL34 Marshall's all that much . His Hiwatts had EL34 but they sounded quite different from an EL34 Marshall .. El34 and 25 watt Greenback M are what people Assume for his 1972 and 73 Classic Marshall tone period but its 6550 and G12H30 55Hz bass cone speakers
Really great video. Thanks for sharing. They are also known as "ghost notes" (turning up the unused channel) and although I can't speak for the 1959HW RI they certainly exist on the SV20 I have.
As an owner of a plexi, I just turn everything up to 10 (high channel only) with the exception of the presence at 6, and then tweak with guitar tone and volume. Quite possibly the easiest amp to plug into and not get lost in constant tweaking. THD Hotplate as an attenuator so I don't die!
Good point. I think approaching it from a Zeppelin cover or tribute scenario it's a little more important to keep the volume lower for more dynamics and cleaner tones when you back your guitar volume pots off. Then finding ways to get more tone at less volume like with the EP preamp. But you are absolutely right about just diming it. That is what you are supposed to do with a plexi. And that is what I would do when playing mostly anything other than Zeppelin 👍
Hi, Loved the Dazed and Confused improvisation with the bow and delay. What guitar do you use when playing Song Remains the Same, Rain Song and Stairway to Heaven in your tribute band? FYI Bryan Williams also does a set of pickups that emulate the circa MSG 1973 twin neck sound.
Would a Marshall origin 20 also work on this set up. And does the Bryan Williams pick ups really make a huge difference on sound. I’m not trying to spend so much money on gear to sound like Jimmy page.
@@Ls_corvette the origin 20 does get you in the ballpark IMO. It's not quite the same but if your technique is Pagey enough it's more than good enough. Yes I find that Bryan Williams pickups do make a difference. They have a very Jimmy tone but are also more dynamic than most pickups so if you roll the volume down they get crystal clean, not just somewhat clean like others. You can also crank your amp up because they don't hit the amp as hard as others so you can get more mojo going without everything getting squishy. So it's not just the tone with Bryan's pickups. It's how they function with your gear that's just as important.
I agree the "weaker" pickups sound better. I have an SG from 1984 and I think the magnets are just getting weak because of age and I find it much easier to get a good tone with it rather than on a newer Les Paul with that has much "hotter" pick ups
Did I hear you say the 2nd channel fattens up if you turn it up and not jumper it? I'm really sleepy now so forgive my dumb question as I never knew this. I have to crank my amp to 9 in order to thickn up.
@jaredbader1415 morning, sorry for my dumb question last night I was so tired and now I'm not going to work 😴 lol. I never knew that works and I wonder if jimmy messed around with it. Does this work for all 4 channel plexis? 🤔
Nobody Fault But Mine, Over The Hills, Since I've Been Loving intro. AWESOME VIDEO DUDE! I can feel how better sound this on ur room. One of the best Jimmy Page tone videos i've ever seen. 14:48 what is that. slapback delay. it sounds amazing. Is a pedal right? u got the 73 MSG TONE dude!
I cant figure out how to post a picture. Knobs left to right are 10:00, 9:00, 9:00, 8:00, 10:00, and last one is 7:00 or all the way down for tight slap back.
Yes the bellepoch preamp is on when you engage the EP delay. Or you can set it up as always on but you can't turn it completely off. However, this preamp is not as good as the clinchfx. So I end up with both preamps on when I engage the bellepoch. I don't find that it makes anything muddy though. If anything it gives it a clean more open sound which is great 👍
Wow totally nailed the tone!
What’s the point of copying someone’s tone on an amp that’s way to big to use for most situations. Unless you crank it wide open it’s not happening
@Tangman4209 maybe The point of doing it is for fun and to learn what it takes to recreate that sound.
Learning fun and personal enjoyment.
Also many people end up finding their own sound when experimenting with different rigs and signal chains .
Most importantly there is no reason to do it if you have the gear and ability.
Why do so many poeple always want to place all these weird rules and restrictions on what people can learn or do with their own gear.
Just because you don't see the point in this doesn't prove its pointless..
A 100 watt amp in not going to be usable in most situations for every guitar player alive but you should know how to dial one in for the situations you can use them in ..
In reality you don't need a point to copy another players tone . You do it for fun and because you can . If it makes you happy to chase Jimmy Page tone there is no reason not to
The tone is good but he is still pretty far off.
I have heard others get much Closer .
Pages tone was much cleaner than what you hear in this Video .
I have heard people get closer with less expensive set ups.
Page Played Modded Marshall Super Bass amps and not Superlead Amps. His main Amp beginning in early 72 was a Modded 1968 Superbass with 6550 tubes and not EL34s. Prior to February 72 Page was using 2 custom built 1969 100 watt Hiwatt heads which were a slightly boosted version of the Hiwatt DR 103 Amps They were cleaner than a Marshall but had more overdrive than a Standard DR 103. They were very unique sounding. Page used those from July 69 to The end of December 1971. He went Marshall in ealry 72 and the 68 Super bass was his main which he also ran through Marhsall 1982 model Bass cabs that had Celestion Bass Cone G12H30 speakers . He had 2 and sometimes 3 additional Marshall 100s which were modded eventually as well around 1975. They were modded for more clean Headroom and the EL34s were replaced with KT88s and the superbass had the 6550 tubes . So Page never really used EL34 Marshall's all that much . His Hiwatts had EL34 but they sounded quite different from an EL34 Marshall ..
El34 and 25 watt Greenback M are what people Assume for his 1972 and 73 Classic Marshall tone period but its 6550 and G12H30 55Hz bass cone speakers
I really like when you get to 16:00. Great sound!
Really great video. Thanks for sharing. They are also known as "ghost notes" (turning up the unused channel) and although I can't speak for the 1959HW RI they certainly exist on the SV20 I have.
Thanks for sharing that! I would love to get an SV20!
As an owner of a plexi, I just turn everything up to 10 (high channel only) with the exception of the presence at 6, and then tweak with guitar tone and volume. Quite possibly the easiest amp to plug into and not get lost in constant tweaking. THD Hotplate as an attenuator so I don't die!
Good point. I think approaching it from a Zeppelin cover or tribute scenario it's a little more important to keep the volume lower for more dynamics and cleaner tones when you back your guitar volume pots off. Then finding ways to get more tone at less volume like with the EP preamp. But you are absolutely right about just diming it. That is what you are supposed to do with a plexi. And that is what I would do when playing mostly anything other than Zeppelin 👍
Hi,
Loved the Dazed and Confused improvisation with the bow and delay. What guitar do you use when playing Song Remains the Same, Rain Song and Stairway to Heaven in your tribute band? FYI Bryan Williams also does a set of pickups that emulate the circa MSG 1973 twin neck sound.
I use an Epiphone double neck with Gibson pickups. I should really get Bryan's pickups for that too.
I would be very curious to hear your plexi through some pre'Rola Celestions.
@@lynyrddeville me too. Too expensive for me but yes that would sound spot on 👍
Lol any hope I had of getting this tone and ripping......went our the window when u brought out the bow 😂
Sounds great!
Thanks!!
You’re really close to 1972 (how the west was won) tone.
1972 & 1970 were his best live tones, so I think.
Would a Marshall origin 20 also work on this set up. And does the Bryan Williams pick ups really make a huge difference on sound. I’m not trying to spend so much money on gear to sound like Jimmy page.
@@Ls_corvette the origin 20 does get you in the ballpark IMO. It's not quite the same but if your technique is Pagey enough it's more than good enough. Yes I find that Bryan Williams pickups do make a difference. They have a very Jimmy tone but are also more dynamic than most pickups so if you roll the volume down they get crystal clean, not just somewhat clean like others. You can also crank your amp up because they don't hit the amp as hard as others so you can get more mojo going without everything getting squishy. So it's not just the tone with Bryan's pickups. It's how they function with your gear that's just as important.
@@jaredbader1415 yeah I’m trying to sound like Jimmy using a new x mg300 and a origin 20. Really trying to aim for that 73 dazed and confused tone.
I agree the "weaker" pickups sound better. I have an SG from 1984 and I think the magnets are just getting weak because of age and I find it much easier to get a good tone with it rather than on a newer Les Paul with that has much "hotter" pick ups
Jared, hope you had a great Christmas and I wish you a Happy New Year!
Happy New Year Kaz!!!
Did I hear you say the 2nd channel fattens up if you turn it up and not jumper it? I'm really sleepy now so forgive my dumb question as I never knew this. I have to crank my amp to 9 in order to thickn up.
It does. Even not jumped they are slightly interactive.
@@jaredbader1415 true fact even on a 74' absolutely
@jaredbader1415 morning, sorry for my dumb question last night I was so tired and now I'm not going to work 😴 lol.
I never knew that works and I wonder if jimmy messed around with it. Does this work for all 4 channel plexis? 🤔
@arfboucher3855 amazing. You know if it work for all plexis?
@@kasimirokaz3775 I'm not sure but I think it would.
Ah man, I just clicked the video and haven't watched yet and I'm excited lol.
Nobody Fault But Mine, Over The Hills, Since I've Been Loving intro. AWESOME VIDEO DUDE! I can feel how better sound this on ur room. One of the best Jimmy Page tone videos i've ever seen. 14:48 what is that. slapback delay. it sounds amazing. Is a pedal right? u got the 73 MSG TONE dude!
@@josemourinho2810 it's the catlynbread Bell epoch for the slapback. Thanks!!
Many also connect the bottom left socket to the top right socket.
What are you Belle Epoch settings?
I cant figure out how to post a picture. Knobs left to right are 10:00, 9:00, 9:00, 8:00, 10:00, and last one is 7:00 or all the way down for tight slap back.
@@jaredbader1415 Thanks! I'll try that. I've been using Andy Martins settings from his appearance on That Pedal Show.
@@JasonChannell I need to check that out!
If you turn the volume all the way up on the channel you don't use, you will notice more mids 🤟
I didn't know that. Thanks!!
Do you really use both ep3 preamps?
Yes the bellepoch preamp is on when you engage the EP delay. Or you can set it up as always on but you can't turn it completely off. However, this preamp is not as good as the clinchfx. So I end up with both preamps on when I engage the bellepoch. I don't find that it makes anything muddy though. If anything it gives it a clean more open sound which is great 👍
What speakers were used in that cab? Thanks
There are 4 25 watt greenbacks. Reissues.
Noice! Many thanks, I got a 1960ax loaded with WGS Green Berets. I like them a lot!
Try the cream back speakers if you plan on changing speakers in the cabinet.
Little smoother on the ear than green backs.
Weber pre-Rola doped greenback clones.
I use the Marshall g 12s from the Hendrix cabs very close to pulsonic cones