Everyone’s beliefs and values are different. In this case, I don’t think that politics should play a part in whether one company’s employees get to support their individual households. Not a single person decided where they would be born. If they work hard for it; especially if they make quality products, then take my money. Quality is quality. And I think that’s American enough: respecting hard work. I’m middle class and this is a luxury for me. If I want to buy the new mini freek but can’t spend $310 for it and TwoSun sells an m390 titanium and CF knife for a 1/3 of the price. I’m pulling that trigger 7 days a week. Am I a bad American? No. I’m a consumer and that’s it.
@@NeevesKnives maybe sir you can do some not china videos not necessarily usa made. You know what i mean? Maybe we can get quality on a budget without buyimg from americas enemies.
when you but knives from china, you aren't supporting hard work. you are supporting the abuse of TONS of workers (including children) who as you said, didn't get to choose where they were born, meaning, you are perpetuating a system which many are forced into.
The U.S. is not the Manufacturer, like we used to be; that's just reality. Many don't know, China is the number one Steel Producer, Worldwide. In my case, I think China makes a lot of neat Knives. They seem to follow the Knife Fads, real well. But, I like Folding Knives with "Super Strong" lock types. So, my personal favorites don't come from China. I find the Chinese Folders are not as heavy-duty as the Knives I purchase from the U.S. (Demko) or Taiwan (Cold Steel & S.O.G.). The Chinese Folders have a lot of style and great materials, that's true. But, I find the strength factor is often missing from them. They just have a mass produced feeling, when you hold them... My American Made Spyderco, Benchmade, Hogue, and Demko Knives feel like they were made and designed by People that honestly love what they do for a living. My Knives from Taiwan and Japan and Italy, Spain, England, Germany, France, Russia, Poland, and Czech Republic all feel like pieces of Art. They don't feel mass produced... Now, I cannot explain this... This is just the way I feel when I hold them in my hand. I know China is making some Great EDC Work Knives. But, they all sort of feel the same, to me... They feel, well, "Generic." I have tried many in the last few years. And, that's how I feel about them. They feel like they were only made to make money... So, they put together a product that they think we will buy; that's their sole motivation to make Knives, in my opinion. And, that shows up in the end product, in my opinion. Great discussion, Bro! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
I've been thinking about this too recently. An item online for $4 from China compared to $30 from a seller on ebay from a lady in Nebraska. It can be a war of conscience.
I'm the same way. Quality is quality regardless. I'm making more of an effort to buy USA made knives( and other goods when I can), but it's hard to buy American when all of the products that we used to make have been shipped overseas by our own companies. The USA used to make everything that we consumed, it was a badge of honor to have that label on stuff, but now all that has been moved overseas to save the business's a couple bucks. I'll spend my money where I like, but I'm going to try to make the larger purchases stay here in the US. Great video!
You know our president is trying to make it that way again but everyone is constantly dogging him about everything.... He wants our country to be completely 100% independent
Well said brother!!!!!! I try my hardest to buy Americian I really do....... but sometimes I buy Chinese!!!!!! Like my rough Ryder knives I love them for how cheap they are and the quality it’s hard to pass up!!!!! But I still have a lot more Americian knives in my collection actually most of my collection is Americian......... well said though brother thanks
Yes its definitely hard especially for a price that is affordable, most people cant spent 500 or more on there pocket knife hell I can get a car for 500$
@@NeevesKnives yeah bro, but then you have the argument of people that have 10 or 20 Chinese made knives laying around.... Which probably Trump the price of one really nice built American blade.... So you tell me what would be the smarter way to consume? Buying one top quality American-made knife, or 15 chunks of China steel? With questionable warranties and probably a nightmare to get hardware for?
I've been giving this issue some thought as I'm sure a lot of other people have as well. It's really fucking hard to pass up value sometimes but I also know that I don't need 1,000 knives. I'm going to try to buy strictly American and a have accepted that this will mean that I just have fewer knives. I also don't judge anyone else for how they choose to spend their money.
While I'm all for supporting your local economy wherever I can, I gotta say I'm getting real fed up of hearing about this now. Like I said in another video on this subject, one of the biggest American owned company I can think of outsources most, if not all, of its manufacture and production to China. Go figure! I'm English & I'm proud, but you guys think you have it bad with knife prices, over here it's beyond ridiculous. Great video Jared, just one complaint. Too many adverts 😕
Thanks for the criticism, and your right the prices in other countries are far worse than we have it, its a topic that people chose on a post for me to talk about, and we need to start talking more about it, not just here but everywhere, and it definitely our own fault for sending so many jobs overseas and we will be fine, its something to talk about though
I think your overall message on this topic is right on. Bottom line, buy what makes you happy. Life is short. I'm not missing out on the value of Twosun or Civivi to fight something that's impossible to fight against. Sorry to my Nationalist friends. I'm old enough to know, back in the early 90s, when the "Boycott Chinese" products first gained traction, I tried...HARD. It's impossible to fully comply. It just is, for all the reasons you mentioned. Chinese products have infiltrated the world because of basic economic principles and many, many influences driven mostly by corporate greed and opportunity both foreign and domestic. Not everybody plays buy the same rules. That's just life and life isn't fair. However, thankfully, there are plenty of ways to support our fellow Americans. If you have the means, buy local first. Restaurants, hardware stores, farmers markets and mom and pop shops of any kind. Everyone....support your individual communities first.... especially now. That's the best way to help Americans right now...in my humble opinion. Good vid bud. 👍
I couldn't say it better. Buy from local small businesses whenever possible. Start with those businesses in your neighborhood, your city, then county, then state, then country. Avoid big national/international companies unless a last resort. Regarding knives, buy what you like. Most of my money is spent locally. I am doing what i can to support people near me.
Knives aside, what should be more important is just not spending as much money that ends up overseas. If that means buying Chinese knives and buying other domestically produced products so be it. Knives are just a tiny fraction of the problem. Ideally every conceivable product would be made in every country, sadly that's just not the world we live in.
Jared I need to say, you Grow really up with your Alone Videos! Don't understand me wrong my Friend, I like Kara! Because you as my Knife brother, makes her to my, like Sister! I don't know if you or anyone else understand what I mean now. Keep up this Videos! Also with Kara of course. Kara and you together = and the Video is loud and full of energy! You alone =silence relaxed deeper thinking! I like both! APPRECIATE you crazy two people for the Videos and so! Lion Over.
Thanks Lion, she likes to be in the videos when she can but I like to post way more than she can keep up with shes a great girl that Puts up with alot with a smile on her face and I love her for that shes a real Ride or Die Bitch and shes proud of it, and Im thankful to have her by my side
I will buy a Chinese made knife but I would much rather save my money for something American made. There are a lot of really nice knives coming from China now though.
People are the same everywhere. The folks in China have to eat too! I try to support individuals, wherever they are from, as our similarities far outweigh our differences. Really concise, well worded video- more power to ya. I guess one main difference is that you and I get to have the right of free speech (most of the time), and that's not always true in other areas of the world. Rock on..
Being a Canadian who grew up admiring America and all it offered, I can honestly and sadly say that, that vision was shattered when I drove across America to California 2009. Everyone I met was amazing and spoiled me with advice and hospitality. So please understand where my thoughts originate from. Hold back and do what you can to buy American products and help preserve what’s left of the American quality of life and maybe, just maybe, regain its grand old lustre.
Chinese products rules! But you must know what you buy: WE, Bestech, Rike, Reate, Kevin John - ok! Green thorn - best clones! CH and Twosun = 100$ = well made knife (premium material).
I know that the parade has passed by already, but; I live in the USA and no one in capitalist USA has been loyal enough to me for me to owe anyone squat! So I will buy the best quality that I can afford, and if the country that provides the quality and the price is China, whatever. All governments are distilled insanity and I deliberately support none. The propaganda didn't take... Medford is all posturing; making his shop all american stuff while taking orders on Chinese computers (I'm sure he doesn't watch Chinese porn!) and phones, etc... etc... etc... In that sense, all are hypocrites. Peace
Crap, i wanted to do a video today talking about this with budget knives today... Anyways well done, it´s a difficult topic for sure, one that divides people and good arguments on both sides. I think the knife community will tbe in this debate for a long time, maybe until China takes over the world... haha just kidding
Nice video. We all share the same passion for this community. Buy what you like and within your means. By purchasing knives made in either the US, China, Italy, Germany, etc - you are still, in many ways supporting your country. 1. You may be supporting a local designer, distributor, retailer or sales rep who works with the manufacturer. 2. The aforementioned are all invested in the work they are doing. They have overhead, and in many cases are trying to run a business. Your purchases help them more than you know.🤙
That is 100 percent true, theres many ways to still support your country and buy from china, and theres many ways to save money and buy from This country. Thanks Tepe, im loving my Maverick by the way im going on knife Junkie podcast tonight, I sent him the Maverick and a couple other TS. Bob has never checked out a TS so we are going to talk about them tonight on the knifeJunkie Podcast
For a lot of everyday items like lightbulbs, or for appliances, avoiding made in China is going to be tough if not impossible. But when it comes to something like knives or most of my clothing or furniture, I refuse to buy from China. I don't care if I'm missing out. My solution has been to buy fewer things.
Dude I thought you were going to compare the knives , you have a beautiful collection of drop points .....it would be nice to review all the knives together
Benchmade is an American knife manufacturer that is doing lackluster designs. They are not working hard to earn my money. I’m mainly supporting Spyderco at this time. I agree with what you said. Chinese manufacturing is taking over and its scary
Don't hate the players when it's how the game's played. Those US capitals has been pouring into their operations in China so they can make cheaper products and make more profit. That's the only reason there are more and more China made products in the world, not just the US. I am Canadian and we have even a smaller manufacturing base, so even less say in this matter...
Spyderco knives went from american fabrics and manufactures to china, amd prices are same. Something wrong, i can have 2 titanium good steel blades or one spyderco in plastic and same steel.
As someone who is not from the US i can give to shits about where the knive is made if it's good and fits the purpose .If I see I knive that looks good has and I have had good products from before you bet I will only buy the cheaper option .
Sorry to disappoint, however I have done that, watch my twosun vs everything. Chinese is doing it best as far as production knives go on large scale, USA does have the best in the world but costs double to triple for same quality
this has nothing to do with the so called "trade war". this "trade war" thing dosen't even make any sense. if you are a person who sees a knife as a regular tool , and you only want one to use daily then you are likely to buy made in china knife . if you are a person who likes knives and has a large collection , then you are likely to buy made in USA knife . they are made in usa only because you like them and collect them like artifacts . the companies see huge profit , that's why they are made in usa , they are only for emotional needs , they are luxury items
Good points made on this video.I`m sure most of us have bought Chinese gas station knives. Especially when we are first introduced to collecting them.But through experience, as you become better educated about the metals, the material and the craftmanship that goes into making them,you tend to lean more into quality over quantity.When you know better, you do better.
I agree well said. Enjoyed your video. I’ve always have tried to purchase products made in the USA. But it’s getting harder and harder to find but if you do the parts are made overseas but assembled in the US go figure. Like you said if you like the product and need it and it’s in your price range then buy it. This makes for a great conversation with friends in the backyard 6feet apart of course sipping a whiskey smoking a fat cigar while fidgeting with your favorite knife. Stay healthy and safe. 🗡🗡🗡🗡
I am Irish and live in Spain, and I have lived in other countries, so I see things from an international perspective. Capitalism and capital is not American or from anywhere else. That's why American companies outsource, they don't care about the American worker. German cars are made in Romania or other countries because it's cheaper for them. I absolutely respect Americans who want to support the home team. That's fine. But I don't like people who preach and condemn others for using their money to get the best bang for their buck. I agree with the content of this video but as the guy says himself, who knows where the parts come from. I am European and have American made knives. That means when the price and the quality coincide, people will shell out for a good product. I have knives from Germany, Bulgaria, Taiwan, China and the States. If it makes you Yankees feel any better, my favourite knives are US made.
I obviously have knives from all over the world, I like good products and good people, some of the knives even from china were made by good people and designed by good people that I talk to regularly and even send me gifts, im not wealthy and damn sure not Rich but I know Americans have it better than most, I have to purchase thinking about other things and how it effects them so I definitely try to get the best bang for my buck. But when I can its nice to help people in our country even if its from buying chinese. Theres many ways of supporting our people and others
I got a U.S made Benchmade knife that was OIF deployment present in 09 by the Army Commander. Spring and blade on it is shit. I had to send in twice to Benchmade to get it fixed. I have Chiniese Gerber regular folding knife for 28$ that I bought in PX still works great and I take it to the field with me. Although i keep Benchmade in a safe as a sentimental value, i am still going to give Benchmade another chance and buy their Auto Switchblade will see how it turns up. Lady at customer service says that they improved their products
Honest and transparent! I like that you're not asking others to do what you don't, and you're calling yourself out on your own purchasing shortcomings as well. Wonder how many need only to look at their smartphone to know where their money is going - let's not be hypocrites. Looking forward to Thursday Night Knives coming up... 👍
Awesome video Jared...I'm married with children and try to support my family and my love of EDC...that buy what you like and can afford with what God has gracefully given you..other day wheel bearings went out on my car...CHOICE buy two China bearings shipped for 60$ or 389 for one USA made..I needed two..and I'm married with children..its a matter of budget and value..China is not the typical gas station knife anymore..example TWOSUN IS KILLING IT..😁👊👍🔪 Keep that edge right brother...thanks for your views brother...tell Kara hey from Rodney..GODBLESS✝️🙏😁
What the guy b4 me said, well done, nicely said. I'm an Aussie but supporting ur country is a world issue. Totally understand where your coming from Jerad. 👍
I like your take on this and I do appreciate you for making this video. You got your point across and it was well deserving of your time and mine! And also I’d like to point out that I noticed that some commentators here pointed out that they prefer to see the “dynamic duo” when they come here to watch your videos... I personally don’t mind watching your videos if you choose to make them solo. Don’t get me wrong! Your videos that you two create together as a team are absolutely spectacular! But if you or your wife choose to create content solo some of the time, than I think that is awesome too. That’s just my two cents, and please, keep up the good work.
Yeah I like to make way more videos than shes able to be apart of, she tries to get in as much as possible, but in order to have consistent content I make separate videos, and I think its working ok and she gets in when she can.
its not about being ripped off its about knowing your supporting your home brands when you can i’ll buy italian , german and even taiwan because theer not the enemy but nothings better than buying a homegrown usa made knife just picked up a winkler belt knife with tribal maple handle and its beautiful i’ll have this knife for a life time and it’s worth giving to my son some day id rather 5 usa made knives than 15 commie knives
I understand and appreciate those who buy as much USA stuff as possible I do as well, from my shirts, boots, belts, etc.. obviously knives as well buy I also understand that alot of money would be lost and taken from Americans if they didn't have the ability to have things made oversea, and many of them use than money to grow something in the usa which is amazing I don't like the way it is either and I support usa #1
I find it funny how every person hating on Chinese-made knives has the shittiest punctuation and grammar. I guess the inability to think rationally quickly leads to generalized judgement.
My buying strategy: See knife. Like knife. Buy knife. I separate my politics and my hobbies. There are far more important conversations to be had about our country.
Best value you get from brands like Ganzo and Sanrenmu, but some people loathe them because they've made their way in the past by copying other people's designs. Undeniable though that they make very good knives for the money (mostly $ 15 to 30 when you buy them from AliExpress), and like most Chinese brands they also produce knives for American and European brands (most notably Kershaw, Spyderco, Fox and Boker have many of their budget knives made in China). TwoSun knives is another brand you'll find on AliExpress. Their designs are all original (sometimes derived from classic designs, but not copied from another famous maker), and sometimes very radical. TwoSun also operates two auction-stores on eBay, and that can be a great way to get a good knife very cheaply, if you're patient and get a little bit lucky. WMK (whitemountainknives.com) also carries TwoSun knives, but just now they only have two of their karambits in stock, maybe they have more on their eBay store. TwoSun shares at least one design with CH knives and Tigend, namely the TS21 or CH1047 (not completely identical, but same platform). Like TwoSun CH knives are pretty darn good, but a few of them seem to be near copies of custom-designs. I've only ever found CH knives available from eBay and AliExpress. Ruike and Real Steel Knives are available through most regular retailchannels, at least here in Europe. They share parts (such as clips) and have some similarities in fit & finish with Sanrenmu knives, but Sanrenmu denies any ties (OEM's tend to be shady that way😶), but as with TwoSun, RSK and Ruike designs are always original (I'd avoid Ruike's slipjoints - aka Boker Plus City - better just go for a proper SAK, and especially beware of the SF831 because she's a frigid beaut😫). Bestech is similar to TwoSun, generally just a bit more expensive, and they can be had through most regular retailchannels. Apparently they make some excellent high-end knives, and some of their designs I find very appealing. I'm surely going to check them out at some point in time. Kubey I don't know, apparently they make some good ones and I've seen a one or two rather tempting (i.e. ridiculously cheap) offers on Amazon, but I've also read quite a few negative reviews on them and their designs don't really call out to me personally. Kizer is my favorite Chinese brand. Idk about the really expensive knives, but for knives under $ 200 I'd say they Kizer might even be better than WE Knife. Kizer knives are available through all regular retailchannels, and they also have two or three stores on AliExpress (prices are generally the same, but you'll sometimes get a discount from one store and from not the other, they sometimes have flash deals where you can get a knife at one-third of it's normal price, which is almost always going to be lower than from your national retailers). Kizer also has a budget brand called Tangram, not sure if they're still available from Amazon but you can still get them from AliExpress, and they're really excellent knives at a very nice price (though you might want to avoid the 'Progression', good design from Dirk Pinkerton, excellent blade, but the flipping action is just so-so). WE Knife has really made a name for themselves for having very reliable, high-end fit & finish on their knives, but they come at a pretty hefty price. Also many of their knives tend to be a bit 'colorful', and that's not for everyone (like me😣). I only have one little WE Knife: the Rectifier. An excellent knife and I'm very happy with it. But in no way is it better than my small Kizer Shoal, which I paid almost half as much for. And even my Kizer Shoal is not as satisfying of a knife as my Benchmade Mini Freek, nor as good of a knife as my Spyderco Native ... so there's that. If you're looking for a good budget blade, Chinese made is the way to go. Also if you're one of those addicts that call themselves knifecollectors (like me🤕), you'll find some very good stuff from those Chinese pushers😋. But if you just want to get a very good knife that'll last you a good long time and you're not willing or able to spend more than $100 to 150, I'd say you're safe with Spyderco or Benchmade, or perhaps a Coldsteel Code4 if that's more to your liking (do mind that Coldsteel as an All American brand has their best knives built in Taiwan, and their very nice budgetknife 'WorkingMan' is just an overpriced variant of their also very nice but way more budgetty 'ProLite'🤔🤨🤬).
forgot to mention Civivi: That's WE Knife's budget line. Also very good knives (also very colorful, at least their older designs). But if you do like the design and you don't mind the price, you can't really go wrong with Civivi. I think they're available from almost everywhere by know. Civivi might just conquer the world😬
Very good Chinese brands out there, I think more out there than American companies. I own at least two models from Kubey, Ganzo, Defcon, Rike, Stedemon, Tuya, Twosun, CH, Maxace, Real Steel, Ruike, Reate, Artisan Cutlery/CJRB, WE/Civivi, Kizer, and Bestech. All quality companies with really good designs.
Bought an Aitor Jungle King 1 from Online shop and I think since it's just $30 I assume it's a cheap copy. After sharpening it, I Started abusing the blade, it managed to cut through a thick 6 cm diameter teak branch and then hacking it on a table's side made out of Albasia wood, and yes...it holds the blade edge really well...No Chipping and so far it didn't bend or wobble. Yes it's a Chinese Copy...idk it was written "Made in spain" but I'm kinda suspect it's a Chinese Copy. But for a copy, it did really really well. If for $30 I can get the same result as The original $300 made-in-spain knife...Spain gonna have real problem on their blacksmithing industry.
I agree to everything you said and I'm not even an American. That's why I'd rather get a buck knife with 420hc because its good enough for every task you would do with a knife and swiss knives for versatility. That said, I love the Civivi elementum and everything about it except for where it is made but so far, I'll live fine without it. Knives are the easy restraint for me, mobile phones is the hard one. China makes really good cheap phones right now annd even the iphones are made in China.
Medford doesn't void warranties unless you try to modify it, especially these days, I personally haven't had a medford with much lock stick, strider on the other hand
@@NeevesKnivesI thought the paper they came with said it would. , Maybe I read it wrong, you would know better than me.I have 2 of the 187 models, one thumb hole and one flipper. But the lock stick on both was unreal, and stil is some times, like two hands struggling to unlock them. Both are DLT tradeing s90v exclusives
@@NeevesKnives I took notice to how easy you unlocked your 187. I was like what the hell lol, mine are easy if you use enough force opening but if you open them without much force they stick realy really bad
@@macmccartney5760 that should break in, you can add permanent marker to the lock face if it's bothering you, let dry and apply a couple layers, you cab also send it to knife modders and they will carbidize the lock face, if you send it in to medford they will take care of it I'm sure. But it's a pretty easy fix honestly you could do at home technically
@@NeevesKnives I've been thinking about getting it carbonized since I saw one of your vids talking about it, , I think they should be broke in by now lock up is already 50 percent or little more. Been opened and closed alot as well as used plenty, had them for about a year now I tried anti-seize grease and pencil.. I'll try the maker before I send them to knife modders. Thanks man
In my opinion every folders is well made for every single folder lovers. its has been made for any purposes as intended to be. i mean everybody deserved the best with a quality as affordable in their hand. us or china made the goal is the same which is to fulfilled our need and interest. i really appreciates ur views
what is up with all this tactical bullshit what happened to classic folding knives i own a buck 110 folding hunting knife it is the best knife i have ever owned because it is a classic and its a USA made knife
You know the first tactical knife was made by Bob Terzuola in the USA, and ofcourse things get old and theres always new things you can't expect there to only be one car in the world right
@@daltonplayz8692 i can do that but i dont have very many especially as classic as the 110, i have the schrade old timer which is basically a 110, and a chris reeves, 31 that is here rt now but i dont and a few more but their mostly in the 20 year range not as old as the 110 but i can probably pull something together
Well said, Jared I would suggest people google information about the standard of living in China vs the US. It's not even close. That's why things can be made so much cheaper there. It's up to Americans to decide whether to buy products that are still good quality at a cheaper price, versus paying more for American made products. The other side of this coin is oil exports vs imports. China exports very little oil, it mainly imports oil from other countries, including the US. Perhaps that explains the imbalance better.
I agree with you but it is really hard when old glory is all over the product and way down in a hard to find area it says assembled in the USA. All foreign parts. I try but sometimes it is just too hard.
Its definitely hard, but many people in this country can benefit like Dave warren from Tuya, its his only income and its how he supports his family. Theres many many designs that come from the US and its definitely not something we cant make work. Thanks Rick
Very nice, heartfelt and reasonable discussion and views. Completely agree: when you can, to the degree you can, you should think of buying from US companies/makers...for all the points you mentioned. Thank you for that post!
Jerad, this video popped up in my feed tonight even though it's a year old. I was just in a debate with another knife enthusiast on a different reviewer's video and trying to explain some of the points you make here. It was like talking to a brick wall. Also, his idea of a premium knife was above $900. Obviously he's not the average collector and has the money to spend on high-end pieces. The majority of us aren't in his same position! To me, anything over $250 is a premium amount to spend on a blade...regardless of where it comes from. One thing that I mentioned there that I haven't read yet here in the comments is that being able to get more for my dollar allows me to purchase a variety of knives. As a newer collector, this is important because I'm able to experience a lot of options and develop my own tastes for what I like over time. I'm sure as I progress and become more affluent in knives, I'll start to refine my tastes and become more selective. I'll more than likely sell or trade a lot of the knives I currently own so I can then focus on purchasing what I enjoy. Will I buy US made? Sure will, though companies like Spyderco and Benchmade need to rethink what's going on globally with their competition, who is offering just as good of quality at much more attractive price. I wish I could be like that guy I was going back and forth with where money isn't an object, but that's just not possible at the moment.
Yeah, its hard to reason with some people, its like arguing with someone that a Bentley is a high end car not a Corvette 😆 to each there own, theres a lot of 🇺🇸 knives i want and will hopefully get one day, even south African knives, so many, but sometimes in order to get to that point you have to start somewhere and move accordingly, learning along the way, no one walks in to a company and becomes the CEO without learning the company and buisness first, its a journey
How many guys are buying only So called American knives while driving a hyundai,talking on there Samsung picking up Chinese food which they will heat up later in there LG microwave ? I also think the American company's should be doing what they can to lower cost .I feel like if its stamped usa its automatically going to be way more just because of that stamp .I have always bought American everything when given the choice I'm on my 6th new Ford truck but I bet a good amount of parts aren't American. Kinda seems like a oosening battle
Buying Chinese food doesnt matter because those people are most likely Americans, and the cars are bought on an American lot from an American dealer, whether that money ends up going to There idk and the parts are probably Chinese, and it definitely feels like a losing battle but we will be ok, we just need to do what we can to keep as much work/jobs from going overseas to places that dont support us, I think we might be waking up a little more after this and realizing things we need to do a little better, and remember it has nothing to do with the Chinese people its about the China government and about us giving our power to there government.
I know I was actually just talking about how I remember when they moved in and how all the local stores shut down and all the ma and pa stores went out of buisness I didnt like it then and dont now, so many big businesses moved overseas, but theres many ways to still support us and buy Chinese, like buying Tuya from Dave Warren, his whole income comes from working for Tuya and thats how he supports his family, great Husband and Wife team
I used to have reservations about even buying knives made in Taiwan, but seeing now how China doesn't even support Taiwan's right to exist, I will be buying lots of Taiwanese products. Great Vid. God bless.
Talk about knives; stay away from economics. Why make yourself look stupid? This came up in my feed. I realize that much of your audience isn't terribly familiar with the ways of the market. Other folks are.
I simply like and prefer the designs, quality and styles of knives that come from China. I find majority of American made knives to be dull and uninspiring. I think I own one knife that's made in the USA out of my collection. I like the way it looks and feels in my hand. But 99% of my knives do come from WE, Kizer, Kevin John, etc. The fit & finish are second to none, and you get so much value for the money from these companies in China. If and when USA made knives can match their level, I will gladly support them, until then, I will continue to buy and add to my collection of all of the well made knives from China.
Everyone’s beliefs and values are different. In this case, I don’t think that politics should play a part in whether one company’s employees get to support their individual households. Not a single person decided where they would be born. If they work hard for it; especially if they make quality products, then take my money. Quality is quality. And I think that’s American enough: respecting hard work.
I’m middle class and this is a luxury for me. If I want to buy the new mini freek but can’t spend $310 for it and TwoSun sells an m390 titanium and CF knife for a 1/3 of the price. I’m pulling that trigger 7 days a week. Am I a bad American? No. I’m a consumer and that’s it.
Its not easy spending your rent on a knife that you could get for a tank of gas
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Very true. That’s why I look for bang for buck when I CAN afford something. Keep up the good work my man. 👍🏽
@@NeevesKnives maybe sir you can do some not china videos not necessarily usa made. You know what i mean? Maybe we can get quality on a budget without buyimg from americas enemies.
when you but knives from china, you aren't supporting hard work. you are supporting the abuse of TONS of workers (including children) who as you said, didn't get to choose where they were born, meaning, you are perpetuating a system which many are forced into.
The U.S. is not the Manufacturer, like we used to be; that's just reality. Many don't know, China is the number one Steel Producer, Worldwide.
In my case, I think China makes a lot of neat Knives. They seem to follow the Knife Fads, real well. But, I like Folding Knives with "Super Strong" lock types. So, my personal favorites don't come from China. I find the Chinese Folders are not as heavy-duty as the Knives I purchase from the U.S. (Demko) or Taiwan (Cold Steel & S.O.G.). The Chinese Folders have a lot of style and great materials, that's true. But, I find the strength factor is often missing from them. They just have a mass produced feeling, when you hold them... My American Made Spyderco, Benchmade, Hogue, and Demko Knives feel like they were made and designed by People that honestly love what they do for a living. My Knives from Taiwan and Japan and Italy, Spain, England, Germany, France, Russia, Poland, and Czech Republic all feel like pieces of Art. They don't feel mass produced... Now, I cannot explain this... This is just the way I feel when I hold them in my hand. I know China is making some Great EDC Work Knives. But, they all sort of feel the same, to me... They feel, well, "Generic." I have tried many in the last few years. And, that's how I feel about them. They feel like they were only made to make money... So, they put together a product that they think we will buy; that's their sole motivation to make Knives, in my opinion. And, that shows up in the end product, in my opinion. Great discussion, Bro! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
I've been thinking about this too recently. An item online for $4 from China compared to $30 from a seller on ebay from a lady in Nebraska. It can be a war of conscience.
For all we know the lady in Nebraska imported a bunch of those items from China🤔 That way you'd definitely be supporting the national economy😅
We went through this in 1970 with Japan we live in a good country and will be ok.
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I'm the same way. Quality is quality regardless. I'm making more of an effort to buy USA made knives( and other goods when I can), but it's hard to buy American when all of the products that we used to make have been shipped overseas by our own companies. The USA used to make everything that we consumed, it was a badge of honor to have that label on stuff, but now all that has been moved overseas to save the business's a couple bucks. I'll spend my money where I like, but I'm going to try to make the larger purchases stay here in the US. Great video!
Well said brother.
You know our president is trying to make it that way again but everyone is constantly dogging him about everything.... He wants our country to be completely 100% independent
@@19Bearsfansince79 that's what we need again! If he can pull it off it would be amazing
@@badmunkyedc1 please try to buy American when you can 🙏
I completely agree
Well said! This is thoughtfully presented and well done.
Well said brother!!!!!! I try my hardest to buy Americian I really do....... but sometimes I buy Chinese!!!!!! Like my rough Ryder knives I love them for how cheap they are and the quality it’s hard to pass up!!!!! But I still have a lot more Americian knives in my collection actually most of my collection is Americian......... well said though brother thanks
Rough Ryder is legit.
Very well said brother! It is almost impossible to buy 100% American made products when you take into account parts and materials!!
When it comes to knives....if you want EVERYTHING 100% American made...go Hinderer.... EVERYTHING is 100% made in House.. down to the last thread.....
Yes its definitely hard especially for a price that is affordable, most people cant spent 500 or more on there pocket knife hell I can get a car for 500$
Might be a sht car but it will run
@@NeevesKnives yeah bro, but then you have the argument of people that have 10 or 20 Chinese made knives laying around.... Which probably Trump the price of one really nice built American blade.... So you tell me what would be the smarter way to consume? Buying one top quality American-made knife, or 15 chunks of China steel? With questionable warranties and probably a nightmare to get hardware for?
@@19Bearsfansince79 but they also cost anywhere from $450 to $1000 dollars. How am I suppose to justify that?
I've been giving this issue some thought as I'm sure a lot of other people have as well. It's really fucking hard to pass up value sometimes but I also know that I don't need 1,000 knives. I'm going to try to buy strictly American and a have accepted that this will mean that I just have fewer knives. I also don't judge anyone else for how they choose to spend their money.
While I'm all for supporting your local economy wherever I can, I gotta say I'm getting real fed up of hearing about this now. Like I said in another video on this subject, one of the biggest American owned company I can think of outsources most, if not all, of its manufacture and production to China. Go figure!
I'm English & I'm proud, but you guys think you have it bad with knife prices, over here it's beyond ridiculous. Great video Jared, just one complaint. Too many adverts 😕
Thanks for the criticism, and your right the prices in other countries are far worse than we have it, its a topic that people chose on a post for me to talk about, and we need to start talking more about it, not just here but everywhere, and it definitely our own fault for sending so many jobs overseas and we will be fine, its something to talk about though
Great video. I like to buy my knives based on how much I enjoy the product, and not based on country of origin
What if the country you're buying from commits horrible human rights abuses propped up by your purchases?
I think your overall message on this topic is right on. Bottom line, buy what makes you happy. Life is short. I'm not missing out on the value of Twosun or Civivi to fight something that's impossible to fight against. Sorry to my Nationalist friends. I'm old enough to know, back in the early 90s, when the "Boycott Chinese" products first gained traction, I tried...HARD. It's impossible to fully comply. It just is, for all the reasons you mentioned. Chinese products have infiltrated the world because of basic economic principles and many, many influences driven mostly by corporate greed and opportunity both foreign and domestic. Not everybody plays buy the same rules. That's just life and life isn't fair. However, thankfully, there are plenty of ways to support our fellow Americans. If you have the means, buy local first. Restaurants, hardware stores, farmers markets and mom and pop shops of any kind. Everyone....support your individual communities first.... especially now. That's the best way to help Americans right now...in my humble opinion. Good vid bud. 👍
There's many ways to support, even when buying overseas so many people are working to support there families from oversea companies. Thanks bud
I couldn't say it better. Buy from local small businesses whenever possible. Start with those businesses in your neighborhood, your city, then county, then state, then country. Avoid big national/international companies unless a last resort. Regarding knives, buy what you like. Most of my money is spent locally. I am doing what i can to support people near me.
@@halcooper6059 well said!
Knives aside, what should be more important is just not spending as much money that ends up overseas. If that means buying Chinese knives and buying other domestically produced products so be it. Knives are just a tiny fraction of the problem. Ideally every conceivable product would be made in every country, sadly that's just not the world we live in.
Well said
Jared I need to say, you Grow really up with your Alone Videos! Don't understand me wrong my Friend, I like Kara! Because you as my Knife brother, makes her to my, like Sister! I don't know if you or anyone else understand what I mean now. Keep up this Videos! Also with Kara of course. Kara and you together = and the Video is loud and full of energy! You alone =silence relaxed deeper thinking! I like both! APPRECIATE you crazy two people for the Videos and so! Lion Over.
Thanks Lion, she likes to be in the videos when she can but I like to post way more than she can keep up with shes a great girl that Puts up with alot with a smile on her face and I love her for that shes a real Ride or Die Bitch and shes proud of it, and Im thankful to have her by my side
I own knives from the majority of American knife makers. At the same time, I also own some from companies like twosun and WE that are quality knives.
I most definitely do also, I love knives from all over the world
I will buy a Chinese made knife but I would much rather save my money for something American made. There are a lot of really nice knives coming from China now though.
Yeah but I hear trying to make a warranty claim or finding hardware for them is an absolute nightmare
And they know exacly what you like and want, its like the witch from Hansel and Gretel
People are the same everywhere. The folks in China have to eat too! I try to support individuals, wherever they are from, as our similarities far outweigh our differences. Really concise, well worded video- more power to ya. I guess one main difference is that you and I get to have the right of free speech (most of the time), and that's not always true in other areas of the world. Rock on..
We definitely have it way better than most of the world
Being a Canadian who grew up admiring America and all it offered, I can honestly and sadly say that, that vision was shattered when I drove across America to California 2009. Everyone I met was amazing and spoiled me with advice and hospitality. So please understand where my thoughts originate from.
Hold back and do what you can to buy American products and help preserve what’s left of the American quality of life and maybe, just maybe, regain its grand old lustre.
Chinese products rules! But you must know what you buy: WE, Bestech, Rike, Reate, Kevin John - ok! Green thorn - best clones! CH and Twosun = 100$ = well made knife (premium material).
I know that the parade has passed by already, but; I live in the USA and no one in capitalist USA has been loyal enough to me for me to owe anyone squat! So I will buy the best quality that I can afford, and if the country that provides the quality and the price is China, whatever. All governments are distilled insanity and I deliberately support none. The propaganda didn't take...
Medford is all posturing; making his shop all american stuff while taking orders on Chinese computers (I'm sure he doesn't watch Chinese porn!) and phones, etc... etc... etc...
In that sense, all are hypocrites.
Peace
Crap, i wanted to do a video today talking about this with budget knives today...
Anyways well done, it´s a difficult topic for sure, one that divides people and good arguments on both sides.
I think the knife community will tbe in this debate for a long time, maybe until China takes over the world... haha just kidding
You still should id like to hear more perspectives on it
Nice video. We all share the same passion for this community. Buy what you like and within your means. By purchasing knives made in either the US, China, Italy, Germany, etc - you are still, in many ways supporting your country. 1. You may be supporting a local designer, distributor, retailer or sales rep who works with the manufacturer. 2. The aforementioned are all invested in the work they are doing. They have overhead, and in many cases are trying to run a business. Your purchases help them more than you know.🤙
That is 100 percent true, theres many ways to still support your country and buy from china, and theres many ways to save money and buy from This country. Thanks Tepe, im loving my Maverick by the way im going on knife Junkie podcast tonight, I sent him the Maverick and a couple other TS. Bob has never checked out a TS so we are going to talk about them tonight on the knifeJunkie Podcast
@@NeevesKnives Cool! I will check it out.👍
For a lot of everyday items like lightbulbs, or for appliances, avoiding made in China is going to be tough if not impossible. But when it comes to something like knives or most of my clothing or furniture, I refuse to buy from China. I don't care if I'm missing out. My solution has been to buy fewer things.
Dude I thought you were going to compare the knives , you have a beautiful collection of drop points .....it would be nice to review all the knives together
I almost did and I still think I will, thanks for the thought because thats a good idea
Benchmade is an American knife manufacturer that is doing lackluster designs. They are not working hard to earn my money. I’m mainly supporting Spyderco at this time. I agree with what you said. Chinese manufacturing is taking over and its scary
Don't hate the players when it's how the game's played. Those US capitals has been pouring into their operations in China so they can make cheaper products and make more profit. That's the only reason there are more and more China made products in the world, not just the US.
I am Canadian and we have even a smaller manufacturing base, so even less say in this matter...
Spyderco knives went from american fabrics and manufactures to china, amd prices are same. Something wrong, i can have 2 titanium good steel blades or one spyderco in plastic and same steel.
As much as I love you, I miss your wife being in the videos. We need 2 tell her this whole work thing is really digging into my TH-cam time. Lol.
😆 I make to many videos for her to keep up with
As someone who is not from the US i can give to shits about where the knive is made if it's good and fits the purpose .If I see I knive that looks good has and I have had good products from before you bet I will only buy the cheaper option .
Good vid man times are changing we have to buy our own I'm saving for a Medford
I wa mnt the pretoreon slim really bad or the slim midi, one of these days
I thought u where comparing knife quality not a political rant on tradeable labor costs. Horrible video
Sorry to disappoint, however I have done that, watch my twosun vs everything. Chinese is doing it best as far as production knives go on large scale, USA does have the best in the world but costs double to triple for same quality
this has nothing to do with the so called "trade war". this "trade war" thing dosen't even make any sense. if you are a person who sees a knife as a regular tool , and you only want one to use daily then you are likely to buy made in china knife . if you are a person who likes knives and has a large collection , then you are likely to buy made in USA knife . they are made in usa only because you like them and collect them like artifacts . the companies see huge profit , that's why they are made in usa , they are only for emotional needs , they are luxury items
That's why I like svord 100%made in New Zealand!
$130 fuckin dollars. That bugout is now $170...
$180 now and not even a year later 💀
The iPhone is made in china, 98% of you american brands are made in china.. We are in the same planet
Good points made on this video.I`m sure most of us have bought Chinese gas station knives. Especially when we are first introduced to collecting them.But through experience, as you become better educated about the metals, the material and the craftmanship that goes into making them,you tend to lean more into quality over quantity.When you know better, you do better.
I agree well said. Enjoyed your video. I’ve always have tried to purchase products made in the USA. But it’s getting harder and harder to find but if you do the parts are made overseas but assembled in the US go figure. Like you said if you like the product and need it and it’s in your price range then buy it. This makes for a great conversation with friends in the backyard 6feet apart of course sipping a whiskey smoking a fat cigar while fidgeting with your favorite knife. Stay healthy and safe. 🗡🗡🗡🗡
Thats for sure Alex 🍻 that sounds so good a whiskey and cigar mmm mmm hhmmmm and while flipping a knife with some homies yeahhhh 👍
got loads and im not interested in monopoly's I dont care they are just knives
I am Irish and live in Spain, and I have lived in other countries, so I see things from an international perspective.
Capitalism and capital is not American or from anywhere else. That's why American companies outsource, they don't care about the American worker.
German cars are made in Romania or other countries because it's cheaper for them.
I absolutely respect Americans who want to support the home team. That's fine. But I don't like people who preach and condemn others for using their money to get the best bang for their buck.
I agree with the content of this video but as the guy says himself, who knows where the parts come from.
I am European and have American made knives. That means when the price and the quality coincide, people will shell out for a good product.
I have knives from Germany, Bulgaria, Taiwan, China and the States.
If it makes you Yankees feel any better, my favourite knives are US made.
I obviously have knives from all over the world, I like good products and good people, some of the knives even from china were made by good people and designed by good people that I talk to regularly and even send me gifts, im not wealthy and damn sure not Rich but I know Americans have it better than most, I have to purchase thinking about other things and how it effects them so I definitely try to get the best bang for my buck. But when I can its nice to help people in our country even if its from buying chinese. Theres many ways of supporting our people and others
I got a U.S made Benchmade knife that was OIF deployment present in 09 by the Army Commander. Spring and blade on it is shit. I had to send in twice to Benchmade to get it fixed. I have Chiniese Gerber regular folding knife for 28$ that I bought in PX still works great and I take it to the field with me. Although i keep Benchmade in a safe as a sentimental value, i am still going to give Benchmade another chance and buy their Auto Switchblade will see how it turns up. Lady at customer service says that they improved their products
Ive had some that are amazing and ive had issues on my bugout, but most of them are great
Honest and transparent! I like that you're not asking others to do what you don't, and you're calling yourself out on your own purchasing shortcomings as well. Wonder how many need only to look at their smartphone to know where their money is going - let's not be hypocrites.
Looking forward to Thursday Night Knives coming up... 👍
Hell yes I cant wait its going to be great. Thank you
Awesome video Jared...I'm married with children and try to support my family and my love of EDC...that buy what you like and can afford with what God has gracefully given you..other day wheel bearings went out on my car...CHOICE buy two China bearings shipped for 60$ or 389 for one USA made..I needed two..and I'm married with children..its a matter of budget and value..China is not the typical gas station knife anymore..example TWOSUN IS KILLING IT..😁👊👍🔪
Keep that edge right brother...thanks for your views brother...tell Kara hey from Rodney..GODBLESS✝️🙏😁
Thanks brother, and I know what you mean we are all out here trying to survive and enjoy the things we can
Well said, Rodney! God Bless you too!
We are all hypocrites. Not much choice.
What the guy b4 me said, well done, nicely said. I'm an Aussie but supporting ur country is a world issue. Totally understand where your coming from Jerad.
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Thanks Marc, you have a good country yourself one id looove to visit one day
I like your take on this and I do appreciate you for making this video. You got your point across and it was well deserving of your time and mine!
And also I’d like to point out that I noticed that some commentators here pointed out that they prefer to see the “dynamic duo” when they come here to watch your videos... I personally don’t mind watching your videos if you choose to make them solo. Don’t get me wrong! Your videos that you two create together as a team are absolutely spectacular! But if you or your wife choose to create content solo some of the time, than I think that is awesome too. That’s just my two cents, and please, keep up the good work.
Yeah I like to make way more videos than shes able to be apart of, she tries to get in as much as possible, but in order to have consistent content I make separate videos, and I think its working ok and she gets in when she can.
Love ya bud. great stuff 100%
its not about being ripped off its about knowing your supporting your home brands when you can
i’ll buy italian , german and even taiwan because theer not the enemy but nothings better than buying a homegrown usa made knife just picked up a winkler belt knife with tribal maple handle and its beautiful i’ll have this knife for a life time and it’s worth giving to my son some day
id rather 5 usa made knives than 15 commie knives
I understand and appreciate those who buy as much USA stuff as possible I do as well, from my shirts, boots, belts, etc.. obviously knives as well buy I also understand that alot of money would be lost and taken from Americans if they didn't have the ability to have things made oversea, and many of them use than money to grow something in the usa which is amazing I don't like the way it is either and I support usa #1
I find it funny how every person hating on Chinese-made knives has the shittiest punctuation and grammar. I guess the inability to think rationally quickly leads to generalized judgement.
Very good video. Well done and thank you
My buying strategy: See knife. Like knife. Buy knife. I separate my politics and my hobbies. There are far more important conversations to be had about our country.
Absolutely there is, this video was filmed almost a year ago
@@NeevesKnives I hear you. Good content.
Awesome video unfortunately pricing is always weighing in on making purchases
Always!
You are best, truth is the truth
your to long winded
what is best place to buy chinese knife? best chinese brands?
White mountain knives or blade hq, Amazon is cheapest though
Best is Reate or We knives then Twosun , Kubey, Kizer , Bestech and Tuya are all my favorites
Best value you get from brands like Ganzo and Sanrenmu, but some people loathe them because they've made their way in the past by copying other people's designs. Undeniable though that they make very good knives for the money (mostly $ 15 to 30 when you buy them from AliExpress), and like most Chinese brands they also produce knives for American and European brands (most notably Kershaw, Spyderco, Fox and Boker have many of their budget knives made in China).
TwoSun knives is another brand you'll find on AliExpress. Their designs are all original (sometimes derived from classic designs, but not copied from another famous maker), and sometimes very radical. TwoSun also operates two auction-stores on eBay, and that can be a great way to get a good knife very cheaply, if you're patient and get a little bit lucky. WMK (whitemountainknives.com) also carries TwoSun knives, but just now they only have two of their karambits in stock, maybe they have more on their eBay store. TwoSun shares at least one design with CH knives and Tigend, namely the TS21 or CH1047 (not completely identical, but same platform). Like TwoSun CH knives are pretty darn good, but a few of them seem to be near copies of custom-designs. I've only ever found CH knives available from eBay and AliExpress.
Ruike and Real Steel Knives are available through most regular retailchannels, at least here in Europe. They share parts (such as clips) and have some similarities in fit & finish with Sanrenmu knives, but Sanrenmu denies any ties (OEM's tend to be shady that way😶), but as with TwoSun, RSK and Ruike designs are always original (I'd avoid Ruike's slipjoints - aka Boker Plus City - better just go for a proper SAK, and especially beware of the SF831 because she's a frigid beaut😫).
Bestech is similar to TwoSun, generally just a bit more expensive, and they can be had through most regular retailchannels. Apparently they make some excellent high-end knives, and some of their designs I find very appealing. I'm surely going to check them out at some point in time.
Kubey I don't know, apparently they make some good ones and I've seen a one or two rather tempting (i.e. ridiculously cheap) offers on Amazon, but I've also read quite a few negative reviews on them and their designs don't really call out to me personally.
Kizer is my favorite Chinese brand. Idk about the really expensive knives, but for knives under $ 200 I'd say they Kizer might even be better than WE Knife. Kizer knives are available through all regular retailchannels, and they also have two or three stores on AliExpress (prices are generally the same, but you'll sometimes get a discount from one store and from not the other, they sometimes have flash deals where you can get a knife at one-third of it's normal price, which is almost always going to be lower than from your national retailers).
Kizer also has a budget brand called Tangram, not sure if they're still available from Amazon but you can still get them from AliExpress, and they're really excellent knives at a very nice price (though you might want to avoid the 'Progression', good design from Dirk Pinkerton, excellent blade, but the flipping action is just so-so).
WE Knife has really made a name for themselves for having very reliable, high-end fit & finish on their knives, but they come at a pretty hefty price. Also many of their knives tend to be a bit 'colorful', and that's not for everyone (like me😣). I only have one little WE Knife: the Rectifier. An excellent knife and I'm very happy with it. But in no way is it better than my small Kizer Shoal, which I paid almost half as much for. And even my Kizer Shoal is not as satisfying of a knife as my Benchmade Mini Freek, nor as good of a knife as my Spyderco Native ... so there's that.
If you're looking for a good budget blade, Chinese made is the way to go. Also if you're one of those addicts that call themselves knifecollectors (like me🤕), you'll find some very good stuff from those Chinese pushers😋.
But if you just want to get a very good knife that'll last you a good long time and you're not willing or able to spend more than $100 to 150, I'd say you're safe with Spyderco or Benchmade, or perhaps a Coldsteel Code4 if that's more to your liking (do mind that Coldsteel as an All American brand has their best knives built in Taiwan, and their very nice budgetknife 'WorkingMan' is just an overpriced variant of their also very nice but way more budgetty 'ProLite'🤔🤨🤬).
forgot to mention Civivi: That's WE Knife's budget line. Also very good knives (also very colorful, at least their older designs). But if you do like the design and you don't mind the price, you can't really go wrong with Civivi. I think they're available from almost everywhere by know. Civivi might just conquer the world😬
Very good Chinese brands out there, I think more out there than American companies. I own at least two models from Kubey, Ganzo, Defcon, Rike, Stedemon, Tuya, Twosun, CH, Maxace, Real Steel, Ruike, Reate, Artisan Cutlery/CJRB, WE/Civivi, Kizer, and Bestech. All quality companies with really good designs.
Bought an Aitor Jungle King 1 from Online shop and I think since it's just $30 I assume it's a cheap copy. After sharpening it, I Started abusing the blade, it managed to cut through a thick 6 cm diameter teak branch and then hacking it on a table's side made out of Albasia wood, and yes...it holds the blade edge really well...No Chipping and so far it didn't bend or wobble.
Yes it's a Chinese Copy...idk it was written "Made in spain" but I'm kinda suspect it's a Chinese Copy. But for a copy, it did really really well. If for $30 I can get the same result as The original $300 made-in-spain knife...Spain gonna have real problem on their blacksmithing industry.
I agree to everything you said and I'm not even an American. That's why I'd rather get a buck knife with 420hc because its good enough for every task you would do with a knife and swiss knives for versatility. That said, I love the Civivi elementum and everything about it except for where it is made but so far, I'll live fine without it. Knives are the easy restraint for me, mobile phones is the hard one. China makes really good cheap phones right now annd even the iphones are made in China.
In my opinion it's a net good that quality EDC knives are so accessible to all now, regardless of the source.
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I share 99 percent of of greg Medford's views... I just use nano lube on my Medford pivots...... Warranty voided 🤔.. and the lock stick is real !!!!
Medford doesn't void warranties unless you try to modify it, especially these days, I personally haven't had a medford with much lock stick, strider on the other hand
@@NeevesKnivesI thought the paper they came with said it would. , Maybe I read it wrong, you would know better than me.I have 2 of the 187 models, one thumb hole and one flipper. But the lock stick on both was unreal, and stil is some times, like two hands struggling to unlock them. Both are DLT tradeing s90v exclusives
@@NeevesKnives I took notice to how easy you unlocked your 187. I was like what the hell lol, mine are easy if you use enough force opening but if you open them without much force they stick realy really bad
@@macmccartney5760 that should break in, you can add permanent marker to the lock face if it's bothering you, let dry and apply a couple layers, you cab also send it to knife modders and they will carbidize the lock face, if you send it in to medford they will take care of it I'm sure. But it's a pretty easy fix honestly you could do at home technically
@@NeevesKnives I've been thinking about getting it carbonized since I saw one of your vids talking about it, , I think they should be broke in by now lock up is already 50 percent or little more. Been opened and closed alot as well as used plenty, had them for about a year now I tried anti-seize grease and pencil.. I'll try the maker before I send them to knife modders. Thanks man
In my opinion every folders is well made for every single folder lovers. its has been made for any purposes as intended to be. i mean everybody deserved the best with a quality as affordable in their hand. us or china made the goal is the same which is to fulfilled our need and interest. i really appreciates ur views
what is up with all this tactical bullshit what happened to classic folding knives i own a buck 110 folding hunting knife it is the best knife i have ever owned because it is a classic and its a USA made knife
You know the first tactical knife was made by Bob Terzuola in the USA, and ofcourse things get old and theres always new things you can't expect there to only be one car in the world right
Neeves Knives ik but can you review some classic folders next video
@@daltonplayz8692 i can do that but i dont have very many especially as classic as the 110, i have the schrade old timer which is basically a 110, and a chris reeves, 31 that is here rt now but i dont and a few more but their mostly in the 20 year range not as old as the 110 but i can probably pull something together
Neeves Knives ok sounds cool
Lol while I’m wearing a t shirt with 🇺🇸 and a hat that says liberty/death 1776 and has 13 stars on it.
Well said, Jared I would suggest people google information about the standard of living in China vs the US. It's not even close. That's why things can be made so much cheaper there. It's up to Americans to decide whether to buy products that are still good quality at a cheaper price, versus paying more for American made products. The other side of this coin is oil exports vs imports. China exports very little oil, it mainly imports oil from other countries, including the US. Perhaps that explains the imbalance better.
Yeah I also think if we would continue to grow small businesses in the US instead of sending overseas we could possibly start seeing better prices
I agree with you but it is really hard when old glory is all over the product and way down in a hard to find area it says assembled in the USA. All foreign parts. I try but sometimes it is just too hard.
Its definitely hard, but many people in this country can benefit like Dave warren from Tuya, its his only income and its how he supports his family. Theres many many designs that come from the US and its definitely not something we cant make work. Thanks Rick
Very nice, heartfelt and reasonable discussion and views. Completely agree: when you can, to the degree you can, you should think of buying from US companies/makers...for all the points you mentioned. Thank you for that post!
Thank you!
good presentation
Jerad, this video popped up in my feed tonight even though it's a year old. I was just in a debate with another knife enthusiast on a different reviewer's video and trying to explain some of the points you make here. It was like talking to a brick wall. Also, his idea of a premium knife was above $900. Obviously he's not the average collector and has the money to spend on high-end pieces. The majority of us aren't in his same position! To me, anything over $250 is a premium amount to spend on a blade...regardless of where it comes from. One thing that I mentioned there that I haven't read yet here in the comments is that being able to get more for my dollar allows me to purchase a variety of knives. As a newer collector, this is important because I'm able to experience a lot of options and develop my own tastes for what I like over time. I'm sure as I progress and become more affluent in knives, I'll start to refine my tastes and become more selective. I'll more than likely sell or trade a lot of the knives I currently own so I can then focus on purchasing what I enjoy. Will I buy US made? Sure will, though companies like Spyderco and Benchmade need to rethink what's going on globally with their competition, who is offering just as good of quality at much more attractive price. I wish I could be like that guy I was going back and forth with where money isn't an object, but that's just not possible at the moment.
Yeah, its hard to reason with some people, its like arguing with someone that a Bentley is a high end car not a Corvette 😆 to each there own, theres a lot of 🇺🇸 knives i want and will hopefully get one day, even south African knives, so many, but sometimes in order to get to that point you have to start somewhere and move accordingly, learning along the way, no one walks in to a company and becomes the CEO without learning the company and buisness first, its a journey
@@NeevesKnives TRUTH!
How many guys are buying only So called American knives while driving a hyundai,talking on there Samsung picking up Chinese food which they will heat up later in there LG microwave ? I also think the American company's should be doing what they can to lower cost .I feel like if its stamped usa its automatically going to be way more just because of that stamp .I have always bought American everything when given the choice I'm on my 6th new Ford truck but I bet a good amount of parts aren't American. Kinda seems like a oosening battle
Buying Chinese food doesnt matter because those people are most likely Americans, and the cars are bought on an American lot from an American dealer, whether that money ends up going to There idk and the parts are probably Chinese, and it definitely feels like a losing battle but we will be ok, we just need to do what we can to keep as much work/jobs from going overseas to places that dont support us, I think we might be waking up a little more after this and realizing things we need to do a little better, and remember it has nothing to do with the Chinese people its about the China government and about us giving our power to there government.
Over half of Hyundai’s / kias are made in Georgia and Alabama
If you really want to change buying USA, talk to the owners of WalMart. Wher do you think they get all there stuff to sell to us?
I know I was actually just talking about how I remember when they moved in and how all the local stores shut down and all the ma and pa stores went out of buisness I didnt like it then and dont now, so many big businesses moved overseas, but theres many ways to still support us and buy Chinese, like buying Tuya from Dave Warren, his whole income comes from working for Tuya and thats how he supports his family, great Husband and Wife team
Neeves Knives ...that is a good thing to know.
I totally agree bro
I used to have reservations about even buying knives made in Taiwan, but seeing now how China doesn't even support Taiwan's right to exist, I will be buying lots of Taiwanese products. Great Vid. God bless.
God Bless you and thank you!
Talk about knives; stay away from economics. Why make yourself look stupid? This came up in my feed. I realize that much of your audience isn't terribly familiar with the ways of the market. Other folks are.
I simply like and prefer the designs, quality and styles of knives that come from China. I find majority of American made knives to be dull and uninspiring. I think I own one knife that's made in the USA out of my collection. I like the way it looks and feels in my hand. But 99% of my knives do come from WE, Kizer, Kevin John, etc. The fit & finish are second to none, and you get so much value for the money from these companies in China. If and when USA made knives can match their level, I will gladly support them, until then, I will continue to buy and add to my collection of all of the well made knives from China.