There aren't enough hours in the day to grind out the mats needed to fully upgrade the weapons and suits in Odyssey. Engineering in Ody is an absolutely crushing nightmare.
@@sphinx2k210 wait what? How does that work? You can trade stuff with players? I didn't know that was possible in the game....has it been like that since odyssey came out? I'm so confused right now.
Interesting info on the engineering you have applied. I won't be bothering though unless I can just fly to Jameson Memorial and buy the upgraded suits and weapons using the several billions I have earned over the last 6 years. Done enough grinding over the years for one lifetime.
Unfortunately you can only buy up to a level 3 suit or weapon, with random engineering. And it's one per customer so if someone buys it before you its gone. You still need to grind to level 5 and to choose each upgrade you want. I suspect you knew this, and I agree the grind was unreal and exhausting to engineer the ground gear.
@@vicviper319 I had horror flashbacks watching videos on here of people running around for opinion polls and other such stuff to upgrade suits and weapons. Will just stick to exploring I think for now or horizons on my other account.
@@vicviper319 I've found it's much more costly to upgrade a weapon's level/Grade than to add any engineering. I suggest trying to find a G3 of ANY weapon or suit you want to upgrade and engineer, even if it's not premodified. I currently have at least 10 G5 fully engineered weapons. That said, I haven't found a G3 shotgun in 3 weeks despite looking in several dozen stations. They used to be more common, so this unfortunately isn't always possible. I find G3 suits, both engineered and unengineered, am the time still.
@@blogtwot Wow, yes! So much to collect! I've upgraded at least ten weapons and six or seven suits to G5, but I (have and) spent A LOT of time doing that, WAY too much time. With my large numbers of upgrades, I've identified the two "materials" I believe they should get rid of to cut the time roughly in half. They should drop the requirement for the Info manufacturing instructions (used for EVERY upgrade) and one of the Tech materials for each weapon. This would make the upgrades still a task to upgrade but not near impossible for those who have more limited time. For suits I'd suggest dropping the Info manufacturing instructions (again) and Power Regulators.
@@SolidSapien I can't see them dropping any items needed as that will annoy all those who have spent part of their life grinding for what they have now. They should have just dropped Odyssey with the option to purchase anything at any level you want even if it's 500 mil credits for 3 fully upgraded suits and 3 fully upgraded weapons. Not sure why they didn't think about the player base that's been with them for years and already been through the grind in multiple areas.
Good video. I’ve done a lot of on foot and conflict zones but haven’t engineered yet. I find the fights are a lot of fun and haven’t needed the engineering even in the high zones to be able to compete. But, this has altered my thoughts on how I plan to engineer (for the record I don’t blitz materials just collect them as I go along as I find the gameplay fun rather than grinding or farming etc, which is why I am so slow to engineer!!)
Indeed, I'm the same with playing what's fun and collecting along the way. If there's something specific, I'll steer towards where that item has a good chance of spawning. Also, o7 fellow Buurian.
I met another cmdr in a combat zone and got really annoyed, thought they were cheating as they jumped in every the time and two shotted my dominator G5, with improved shield regen. Now I get it. They must have had a scoped, and ranged Intimidator. I have to say I think its a bit overpowered, or perhaps the executioner should bleed some of its damage through the shields.
As someone who is a fan of hardcore weapon mechanics, it's a shame that a game like Apex Legends has more realistic gun behavior than Elite Dangerous which positions itself as a realistic Newtonian-physics space simulator
Just getting into the whole ground combat thing found it's easier just to rush enemies as the npc are just terribly slow to dodge attacks and to fire back. I can see his strategy right away keep moving and gun down npc while running straight at them not giving them time to turn aggressive . They should expand ARENA to include ground combat. I know lots of players who play CQC it is making a comeback but don't expect to win just like if they make ground ARENA.
You need to test this gun in a high-intensity GCZ to get meaningful results, and here's why. Doing anything less than high-intensity GCZs is quite frankly a waste of time; the money is not worth it, and the XP gained is not meaningful in making progress towards Mercenary Elite. High-intensity GCZs, on the other hand, offer decent money and decent Elite rank progress. That said, enemies in these GCZs also have much stronger shields and armor, and you'll notice that the Intimidator's one-shot capability quickly evaporates under those circumstances. The Executioner still two-shots everything including Enforcers (if you land a headshot), but at greater range and with a larger magazine size than the Intimidator. Don't be too quick to crown the Intimidator just yet.
I can't stand the weapon balance in Odyssey. What kind of weapons manufacturer would design an assault rifle that requires a competitors assault rifle to be paired with it before it can be effective?
I read (on redit, so pinch of salt required) that FDev patched out the scope tightening the shot spread on the Intimidator sometime over the last year. Does anyone know if that's true, or is someone out there trolling? The Intimidator is beyond boss, but I don't want to waste resources on it if it doesn't help.
Finally, a game that gets shotguns right. Except for making it a meme double-barrel instead of a legit semi-auto with 5-6 rounds in the magazine. For those unfamiliar with real world firearms, the shotgun is absolute god-tier. No, it doesn't carry much ammo. It doesn't need to. You don't survive two hits from a shotgun, period.
I was thinking the opposite. 7-meter range? I have an 18" smoothbore open-choke 12ga and can put a slug on a paper plate at 25yds. And I would actually grind engineer mats if I could get that more accurate! 😂
@@BigHonkinGoose Yeah, that part is a bit off. But I'll take that over the usual BS games portray. I'm not holding my breath waiting for games to get into sabot slugs or dragon's breath rounds.
Great video as always. Engineering in Odyssey is cancer. This is demonstrated in this video even in common sense. It is a double barreled weapon, you see 2 shells go in....but by the magic of grinding for horrendous hours for engineering, you can magically get 3 shots. So only 1 of those shells was hiding an extra shell. It should be 4 shots (some kind of longer push through shell) or just much faster reload. The scope narrows the spread...not some kind of muzzle accessory. Man, I love Elite but as an FSP it sucks the sweat off a dead mans balls.
I agree for the most part, but look closely at the reload: one large 'thing' gets inserted, the two, uh, Geissler tubes on the back appear to just be decoration, like on the other plasma handhelds
For the people watching this video on 2024... i just tested both this shotgun and the sniper, the sniper is 3 shoots maybe 4 and the shotgun is shit... If you dont have engeniered weapons just stick with the pistol and sniper...
I do agree it feels a bit unrealistic. Hmmm what am I saying? In a game where the FSD exists and you can wifi connect to your friends ship at Beagle point!
@@owlangel7234 ....it takes place over 1,000 years from now. How do you figure that FSD and remote co-piloting isn't realistic 1,000 years from now? -.-
Here's a compilation of the Shotgun (grade 5) in action during 4 days of real Open Play PVP Conflict Zone : th-cam.com/video/vfYON6_FCvQ/w-d-xo.html (Community Goal in Haithis, High Intensity) P.S : Even without scoping at all, the shotgun is overpowered, if you have good movement. I can't wait for the next CG and try this scope modification, it's gonna be even better !
i heared the Scope tightening the spread of the intimidator was a bug that has been fixed. Can anyone confirm or refute? I am currently building my main-combat build. I want to run an L6 for longrange and groups paired with an intimidator. So far i only got faster handling on both but when it comes to the intimidator i am a bit at a loss. In combination with the L6 putting scope and greater range on it makes a lot of sense so i have a primary weapon for medium range single targets. Even though i absolutely hate the idea to put a scope on a shotgun on principle. (in fact i would kind of like to hear that it really was a bug thats fixed now just so i dont "need" to make this atrosity of a weapon). If scope and greater range is still awesome and will remain that way the question is magazine size or reload speed (i lean towards reload speed in conext of using it in conjunction with an L6)?
Should probably give an update here: i managed to talk to the person that claimed it being a bug directly and, apparently the spread was even tighter at some point and that got fixed to rhe state depicted in here. Also i decided to go with magazine size over reload speed. So faster handling, scope, greater range and mag size its going to be.
I just got a new phone, I looked up elite, and... I had to look up d2ea. Thats ridiculous. My girl don't like your voice, but f that b. Can I join a squad?
There aren't enough hours in the day to grind out the mats needed to fully upgrade the weapons and suits in Odyssey. Engineering in Ody is an absolutely crushing nightmare.
Trading with other players for materials people need in groups certainly helps things a lot, you can use Discord to easily organise it.
@@sphinx2k210 wait what? How does that work? You can trade stuff with players? I didn't know that was possible in the game....has it been like that since odyssey came out? I'm so confused right now.
@@glasshalfempty1984 Me too lol this is news to me!
@@glasshalfempty1984 The on-foot materials are on your backpack, and you can drop them to the ground for other players to pick them up!
@@sphinx2k210 And now we can passively "trade" via carriers.
2 barrels 3 shots. Its just good science.
It leaves each plasma sphere with 0.33 energy and then shoots both at the same time for the 3rd shot
Interesting info on the engineering you have applied. I won't be bothering though unless I can just fly to Jameson Memorial and buy the upgraded suits and weapons using the several billions I have earned over the last 6 years. Done enough grinding over the years for one lifetime.
Unfortunately you can only buy up to a level 3 suit or weapon, with random engineering. And it's one per customer so if someone buys it before you its gone. You still need to grind to level 5 and to choose each upgrade you want. I suspect you knew this, and I agree the grind was unreal and exhausting to engineer the ground gear.
@@vicviper319 I had horror flashbacks watching videos on here of people running around for opinion polls and other such stuff to upgrade suits and weapons. Will just stick to exploring I think for now or horizons on my other account.
@@vicviper319 I've found it's much more costly to upgrade a weapon's level/Grade than to add any engineering. I suggest trying to find a G3 of ANY weapon or suit you want to upgrade and engineer, even if it's not premodified. I currently have at least 10 G5 fully engineered weapons. That said, I haven't found a G3 shotgun in 3 weeks despite looking in several dozen stations. They used to be more common, so this unfortunately isn't always possible. I find G3 suits, both engineered and unengineered, am the time still.
@@blogtwot Wow, yes! So much to collect! I've upgraded at least ten weapons and six or seven suits to G5, but I (have and) spent A LOT of time doing that, WAY too much time. With my large numbers of upgrades, I've identified the two "materials" I believe they should get rid of to cut the time roughly in half. They should drop the requirement for the Info manufacturing instructions (used for EVERY upgrade) and one of the Tech materials for each weapon. This would make the upgrades still a task to upgrade but not near impossible for those who have more limited time. For suits I'd suggest dropping the Info manufacturing instructions (again) and Power Regulators.
@@SolidSapien I can't see them dropping any items needed as that will annoy all those who have spent part of their life grinding for what they have now. They should have just dropped Odyssey with the option to purchase anything at any level you want even if it's 500 mil credits for 3 fully upgraded suits and 3 fully upgraded weapons. Not sure why they didn't think about the player base that's been with them for years and already been through the grind in multiple areas.
I've been looking for a video like this. Thanks d2ea!
Good video. I’ve done a lot of on foot and conflict zones but haven’t engineered yet. I find the fights are a lot of fun and haven’t needed the engineering even in the high zones to be able to compete. But, this has altered my thoughts on how I plan to engineer (for the record I don’t blitz materials just collect them as I go along as I find the gameplay fun rather than grinding or farming etc, which is why I am so slow to engineer!!)
Indeed, I'm the same with playing what's fun and collecting along the way. If there's something specific, I'll steer towards where that item has a good chance of spawning. Also, o7 fellow Buurian.
@@Tomwolf22 always a pleasure to see another Buurian!
the opening reminds me of my joke "What is the best ship manufacturer? And why is it Core Dynamics?"
I met another cmdr in a combat zone and got really annoyed, thought they were cheating as they jumped in every the time and two shotted my dominator G5, with improved shield regen. Now I get it. They must have had a scoped, and ranged Intimidator. I have to say I think its a bit overpowered, or perhaps the executioner should bleed some of its damage through the shields.
As someone who is a fan of hardcore weapon mechanics, it's a shame that a game like Apex Legends has more realistic gun behavior than Elite Dangerous which positions itself as a realistic Newtonian-physics space simulator
Shotgun and rocket launcher for me but then i have an unhealthy love for things that go boom
Just getting into the whole ground combat thing found it's easier just to rush enemies as the npc are just terribly slow to dodge attacks and to fire back. I can see his strategy right away keep moving and gun down npc while running straight at them not giving them time to turn aggressive . They should expand ARENA to include ground combat. I know lots of players who play CQC it is making a comeback but don't expect to win just like if they make ground ARENA.
You need to test this gun in a high-intensity GCZ to get meaningful results, and here's why. Doing anything less than high-intensity GCZs is quite frankly a waste of time; the money is not worth it, and the XP gained is not meaningful in making progress towards Mercenary Elite. High-intensity GCZs, on the other hand, offer decent money and decent Elite rank progress. That said, enemies in these GCZs also have much stronger shields and armor, and you'll notice that the Intimidator's one-shot capability quickly evaporates under those circumstances. The Executioner still two-shots everything including Enforcers (if you land a headshot), but at greater range and with a larger magazine size than the Intimidator.
Don't be too quick to crown the Intimidator just yet.
interesting point. I thought the czs in the video were high czs. What weapon would you recommend for farming xp towards merc elite?
These engineering stuff seems handy, to bad they need an incredible amout of grind to get them.
I can't stand the weapon balance in Odyssey. What kind of weapons manufacturer would design an assault rifle that requires a competitors assault rifle to be paired with it before it can be effective?
its not that unrealistic. who says theyre not owned by the same company?
I read (on redit, so pinch of salt required) that FDev patched out the scope tightening the shot spread on the Intimidator sometime over the last year. Does anyone know if that's true, or is someone out there trolling?
The Intimidator is beyond boss, but I don't want to waste resources on it if it doesn't help.
Finally, a game that gets shotguns right. Except for making it a meme double-barrel instead of a legit semi-auto with 5-6 rounds in the magazine. For those unfamiliar with real world firearms, the shotgun is absolute god-tier. No, it doesn't carry much ammo. It doesn't need to. You don't survive two hits from a shotgun, period.
I was thinking the opposite. 7-meter range? I have an 18" smoothbore open-choke 12ga and can put a slug on a paper plate at 25yds. And I would actually grind engineer mats if I could get that more accurate! 😂
@@BigHonkinGoose Yeah, that part is a bit off. But I'll take that over the usual BS games portray. I'm not holding my breath waiting for games to get into sabot slugs or dragon's breath rounds.
Great video as always. Engineering in Odyssey is cancer. This is demonstrated in this video even in common sense. It is a double barreled weapon, you see 2 shells go in....but by the magic of grinding for horrendous hours for engineering, you can magically get 3 shots. So only 1 of those shells was hiding an extra shell. It should be 4 shots (some kind of longer push through shell) or just much faster reload. The scope narrows the spread...not some kind of muzzle accessory. Man, I love Elite but as an FSP it sucks the sweat off a dead mans balls.
I agree for the most part, but look closely at the reload: one large 'thing' gets inserted, the two, uh, Geissler tubes on the back appear to just be decoration, like on the other plasma handhelds
I can't add a scope after update 7. Eh...
I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure that the oppressor is not the sniper rifle I believe the Executioner is the sniper rifle
For the people watching this video on 2024... i just tested both this shotgun and the sniper, the sniper is 3 shoots maybe 4 and the shotgun is shit... If you dont have engeniered weapons just stick with the pistol and sniper...
About the time for me to go back to Odyssey and engineer the shotgun!
I hope it comes soon on consoles. So many things I see I must have and I must wait and wait for the console update 😩😩😩
Not gonna be on consoles until atleast next year.
@@alexn8219 jear and this is horror 😩😩😩🤣😜
Bad news…
Yes!!! Manticore ever!!!
100% agree shotgun first, probably sniper second
Two hits! Like and Subscribe. Just moved from console 👍
Is to even possible to walk around on Xbox
A scope decreasing the spread... That's so... Dumb...
all they had to do is add some flavor text about it being a choke and scope combo. Ah well
I do agree it feels a bit unrealistic. Hmmm what am I saying? In a game where the FSD exists and you can wifi connect to your friends ship at Beagle point!
A choke literally does the opposite.
@@owlangel7234 ....it takes place over 1,000 years from now. How do you figure that FSD and remote co-piloting isn't realistic 1,000 years from now? -.-
@@glasshalfempty1984 that was my point, when I added "what an I saying"
Here's a compilation of the Shotgun (grade 5) in action during 4 days of real Open Play PVP Conflict Zone :
th-cam.com/video/vfYON6_FCvQ/w-d-xo.html
(Community Goal in Haithis, High Intensity)
P.S : Even without scoping at all, the shotgun is overpowered, if you have good movement.
I can't wait for the next CG and try this scope modification, it's gonna be even better !
i heared the Scope tightening the spread of the intimidator was a bug that has been fixed.
Can anyone confirm or refute?
I am currently building my main-combat build. I want to run an L6 for longrange and groups paired with an intimidator. So far i only got faster handling on both but when it comes to the intimidator i am a bit at a loss. In combination with the L6 putting scope and greater range on it makes a lot of sense so i have a primary weapon for medium range single targets. Even though i absolutely hate the idea to put a scope on a shotgun on principle. (in fact i would kind of like to hear that it really was a bug thats fixed now just so i dont "need" to make this atrosity of a weapon).
If scope and greater range is still awesome and will remain that way the question is magazine size or reload speed (i lean towards reload speed in conext of using it in conjunction with an L6)?
Should probably give an update here: i managed to talk to the person that claimed it being a bug directly and, apparently the spread was even tighter at some point and that got fixed to rhe state depicted in here.
Also i decided to go with magazine size over reload speed. So faster handling, scope, greater range and mag size its going to be.
Do u think this will get nerfed?
Hope not
I am sure this is a bug, because this doesn't make sense at all. No matter how you put it. It's not just pellets, it's some code logic flaw.
every weapon is good enough for trash armored npcs
This is only good in a CZ, therefore it’s not the best weapon.
I have this game, but I don't lol
I just got a new phone, I looked up elite, and... I had to look up d2ea. Thats ridiculous. My girl don't like your voice, but f that b. Can I join a squad?
I'm console also