Not a smart driver. Didn't speed up to get to the next corner, didn't back up to get out of the way, didn't go over on the left side of the street or make a U turn to get on the wider side. Just planted themselves in the worst possible place.
@@mikemalo47 When I worked for CZRY and FCPNO in San Diego and Tijuana, we would get people stopped on the tracks all the time. One lady tried to drive her car between the fuel tank and the front truck when they were switching in the propane transfer plant in Tijuana. It took 3 hours to get her out of there.
@@mikemalo47 I have never seen one either but know enough to know get to the next street, up on the right Or pull in and park. I’d be filming the train 🚂 unless it’s in a place where they harass you for filming a train you’re “suspicious “ 🤷♀️ 🙄
@@Queeni_3e Go to the next street? Well, what if the train was going faster than you thought? What if a car(the black car ahead), blocked your clear view of this train coming from around a bend, and what if you were from out of town and had never seen such a thing ... I just love it when people's shiet just doesn't stink ...
Ah, La Grange. Not many trains and no speed at all, but heavy on drama. Last year there was a wreck that shut the interstate down and this street was a madhouse of 18-wheelers, RVs, and cars for about 2 hours, and many trailers laid on the tracks for the traffic light. No train drama but it was as colorful and loud as all get-out.
I'm with you; La Grange needs to eliminate parking on that side of Main St, at least in the 2 blocks between 1st and Cedar. I was looking at Google street/satellite view to see if there's any space behind the buildings to put in a parking lot. Unfortunately, some of the buildings are historical and can't be torn down, but there's an insurance agency in what looks like a former bank that has a parking lot with space for at least 10-15 cars. Insurance agencies usually don't have a lot of traffic, so the city should work out a deal with the agency to take over maintenance of the lot and make it public parking. They can put up signage reserving a set number of spaces for agency staff and customers.
I completely agree that the parking should just be removed on that side of the street. However, there were several options the driver had to avoid this and they literally did none of them. It's funny how so many drivers aren't very good yet expect the world to revolve around them.
Train had 708 axles and was 11,129 ft long, no idea of tonnage but Engineer sounded the horn in good time, the car didn't get hit by the locomotive but by one of the following cars.
Maybe they can make the arm come down and the lights start flashing sooner than normal, given the potential danger. I'll bet that person would have never turned then!
A good idea, considering the road seems designed for very low speeds, anyway, so there is really no way to clear the tracks other than a u-turn. Perhaps, a compromise could be a flashing 'NO RIGHT TURN--TRAIN APPROACHING' instead of an early arm coming down since there is enough time for several cars going straight to continue clearing the intersection. Or, just eliminate parking, at least in that block. Since the track's position is off-center, that would be the best compromise.
That is 100% a solution here. The signals need to trigger much earlier. If you look at the car, it turns right legally 'and just then' the signals activate. But they're driving toward the train in a 20-25MPH zone at most, and in an environment like that short downtown block probably slower. So now they're headed toward a train going the same speed they are, that's on trajectory to hit the next intersection at the same time. Their options are all illegal: back up in a road lane, drive into the oncoming lane, or make a u-turn not at an intersection... There was no legal solution.
@@culcune Agree. The county engineer is just leaning on "the book" as an excuse that "everything is compliant" when that doesn't mean there isn't a practical problem to be solved. Seen this complacency and victim blaming too many times professionally...
A quick fix for this issue is 1, don't allow parking on thst side of the street (would provide more room for passing cars) and 2, put the signal activation thing a bit further away so peeps have more time to clear out. One side has room for a parked car and a car to pass. Other side doesn't.
Yes! I'm so tired of seeing people blame this driver when, 1. They made a legal right hand turn when there were no lights or gates or horns, and 2. They were immediately confronted with an oncoming train who then just sounded it's horn and bell. 3. There is no lane width in which to reside because of the parking, and 4., The oncoming train is coming at about the same speed of the car where they're going to meet up at the next intersection of escape. I don't understand how this is legal because if the car speeds it's breaking the law and if the car stops and backs up, it's technically breaking the law and there's no space for the car to escape without breaking the law or making a U-turn if it has the turning radius to do so.
It's insane to me that the town allows the parking considering that this can occur because the gates and lights don't come down early enough to prevent anyone from turning right in time. We can all play armchair quarterback but I absolutely understand where the car drivers coming from, especially if you imagine turning right and then facing an oncoming train which is not something that you ever ever do
@@ammagee AND the fix is rather simple ... the city should relinquish a small portion of the R/W(on which the sidewalk sits), ... maybe 10-20 inches is all that is needed ... then, maybe consider a central "safety zone", where a large parking area can be utilized in emergencies ... of any sort, because we all know an ambulance would have a really rough time stopping on that side of the RR, if an emergency existed ... I don't blame the city for the tight quarters, but I blame the city for not attempting to realistically reduce the impact of the RR ... the city probably wears this situation as a unique badge of honor ... they need to use a little imagination ...
@@PISQUEFrancis Agree. I work in the urban planning realm and have worked with city and transportation engineers. Almost all of the time, they don't care because "it's compliant", despite there being actual solutions. They lean on "the book" as a scapegoat to not do actual hard work.
@@shanerountree3623 Very likely as the automated car would see the train as being in the wrong lane but going very slow so would stop expecting the train to move to it's proper lane.
To be fair to the driver, the lights and barriers weren't activated when they turned, and then the panic looked to set in. I know there's probably more to it, but I've always wondered why they can't just make that two blocks a one way!?
Or eliminate parking on that side of the street and make it a driving lane- the other side has enough room for parking and a drive lane and I cannot recall any car vrs locomotive on that side, at least recently.
In many towns, cities, metro areas, etc., the activation of traffic signals also triggers brightly lit signs prohibiting left turns/right turns, etc. Seeing as how a crossing gate system could be categorized as a traffic signal, last minute turns such as these could be prevented by such a system. The major flaw I see here is the timing of the crossing gate activation is not soon enough to prevent the dumbest of drivers from making a questionable decision. The activation should have been at least a quarter mile out. Of course the poor decisions continue, as the driver fails to turn around in the ample street space. The flaw in that regard is the City Of Lagrange has not restricted parking in an area midway down the block to allow for emergency excursions off the right-of-way, as other cities/towns do at busy crossings where traffic may back up due to a signal just beyond the crossing.
I see nothing in this video to suggest that the car driver was dumb or did anything at all that was wrong. Expecting the driver to make a U-turn in that amount of time -- and expecting the car to be able to make that turn without requiring a 3-point turn (which would also be dangerous here) simply isn't reasonable. The space between the white line and the parked cars is ridiculously small, as well.
Agreed... This is happening all too often...OMO..Have the gates at the big intersection and the smaller one go down at the same time and a lite sign that states train approaching/ no turning on red
@@mattorel agreed. It's also unreasonable to expect the driver to illegally move to the opposite side of the road. Everyone calling these drivers dumb is smugly sitting behind a screen, with full knowledge of how this intersection works. It could be that driver's first day in KY for all we know. They didn't do anything different than the 2 cars before them. They were just at the wrong place in line.
@@mattorel I agree. Having watched this , I saw the car driver was already passed crossing and on route before crossing became activated. Car driver not at fault . Just got there at wrong timing . Train crew were good in helping though
The car doesn't get much damage until the 3rd freight car (first autorack) passes it and then the car starts to move again after another freight car length has passed. It gets stuck between the 8th and 9th freight cars. There's hardly a dull moment in Main Street La Grange, Kentucky!
@@toomanyhobbies2011 The car wasn't hit by the Engines. It was hit by the Autoracks. If it was an elderly driver their license should be surrendered. If the driver was one of the other younger locals, they must've had an IQ of 50.
Agree with the other notes that parking on this side should be eliminated. Via Google Maps, there are 12 parking spots on the block of the accident and 11 spots on the block to the west (across from the park). There are plenty of angled parking slots on the other side of the street on those blocks and on surrounding side streets. Only allow drop-offs at the curb.
The city NEEDS to find a way to make that street less narrow, be it disallow parking on that block, making it all one way, SOMETHING. There's too much jammed in that one area.
I love that it's a historic district, the RR was there before the town, the tracks are 1820's, the buildings 200 years old (BTW, I'd like to see the numbers on that- 2022 minus 200 years is 1822, and the tracks date to the 1820's ? ), and the city has to preserve the parking spaces for the historical automobiles, to keep the merchants happy...
You wouldn't think of that at the time, but he/she could have moved over enough to avoid being hit. Horrible situation. What if they were driving a truck, they'd be stuck there.
In this case, maybe. There's another incident from a couple years ago at the same spot where the driver did exactly that, only to have another vehicle turn right in to the same lane at the same time. The result was a head-on collision with the train. The problem here isn't the drive; it's an astoundingly awful design.
Here in New Zealand we have cycle paths that run alongside railway tracks with traffic lights at the crossings to help cyclists get across the roads. If a train trips the circuit while the light is already green for a cyclist then a yellow to red arrow comes on telling cyclists not to turn to cross the train tracks. Shortly after this the level crossing activates. So what they could have at the intersection here is some yellow and red arrow lights that activate while the train is still a way out to tell cars not to turn into the street without stopping through traffic unnecessarily early. With the crossing not being active when the car turned and nowhere for them to go after they had turned, the fault here is poor road layout rather than anything that driver did. Sure, they could have gone into the wrong lane, but I'd argue that's not much safer since someone could easily turn into the street coming the other way since that crossing has no alarms and there's plenty of room for a small car to drive alongside a train on the other side. But really the best solution is either make it one-way heading west or remove the parking on the eastbound side.
I've just watched a second time and come to the same conclusion as you. There is nothing to warn the car driver that a train will be coming, so as you say, the parking should be removed on that side. I don't know if reducing the width of the sidewalk would give enough clearance- maybe for cars but not trucks. At least in New Zealand, I don't think that you are likely to meet a train on a shared bridge anymore.
Totally agree with you. Who was the engineer that decided to put rails down the middle of a busy downtown street? Its not like its tracks for trains used to move people up and down the shopping district. Nobody expects to see tracks in the middle of a street!
@@brunoskorniak9722 Chances are that the tracks were there long before most of the town. And in the 1800s, people actually _admired_ trains, and _wanted_ them in town centers. Your home was in the most desirable part of town if its back porch faced directly on the train tracks with very little distance from porch to track. With the passage of time and the advent of the automobile, things changed.
I usually blame the driver, but in this case, the white lines for the tracks and parking spaces, aren't even as far apart as a small car is wide. I've thought for some time, that that section of the block, shouldn't even have parking there.
Some of the parked cars were close enough to the curb that the driver could have pulled in close to them and probably squeeze by but the driver would not stop till they got hit.
I'm on team "blame the bad road design." Based on StreetView, it looks like these two blocks (the one fully visible on camera, and the one the camera is situated on) have the lanes marked for Eastbound (the camera is facing East) traffic to simply share the lane with... oncoming trains. This could also have happened if the driver had been driving Eastbound from earlier along this road, since there are no Xing signals or signs on this street itself (only the cross streets, and several of them have only Xing signs with no signal). No road should ever be designed for any vehicle to share a lane with oncoming traffic of any kind, and there's also no markings on the road indicating the need to move leftwards to continue in that direction (which, viewing it from the top, is the way to go). We shouldn't be designing roads that rely on "make a last-minute U-turn or swerve in front of oncoming traffic to avoid colliding with it."
I never understood why a city council (or whatever they call it over there) never addressed this reality for their own town?? (Either ban parking on that street, or make it one way only or something…). I know, it is fun to watch but….
ya since the tracks favor that side of the street, there should be no street parking over there because there is no room between the white line, and the parking lines for a car to sit. The other side of the road is fine as is.
You said what I was thinking. Make that side of the street no parking. I felt for the driver. The train engineer deserves kudos because I think he knew something was going to happen.
Or simply put a couple of no park spaces on that side so there will be a space to pull into in this sort of situation. Of course that would depend on no one else parking in them for “ just a moment “
I think they're going to have to activate the Main//1st gates sooner. There was absolutely no where for that cat to go. There's no enough room with the street parking on that side to get through. Might even need to have a gate across Main St at the corner to keep cars from going down that narrow lane. Again that is going to have to activate way ahead of the train even turning the bend.
I have to say, I'm not sure what the car driver could have done. They had no way of knowing a train was coming when they turned into the street, and after that there just wasn't enough room for them with the train on one side and the parked car on the other. They could have tried a fast reverse, which is not easy with cars and people about, or crossed in front of the train and potentially into traffic coming the other way. I don't think it's the train driver's fault either - I doubt they could have stopped in time. The accident is the fault of poor street design - either it should be one way, or there should be no parking that side of the road, or the barriers should be activated earlier.
As an avid train watcher, I came to the same conclusion. Reversing the vehicle was probably the best bet, but could they have hit/hurt/injured a pedestrian?
@Mister Flibble Well, maybe. But it takes a lot of nerve to do that when a train is bearing down on you, and the consequences of getting it wrong could be fatal. It's very easy to watch the feed and see that there were no pedestrians about - I expect the perspective from the driver's seat is rather different.
Well, as I see it, he had 4 choices: 1) Speed up to the next intersection and turn. 2) Do a U-turn and either pull over, or do choice #1 going the other direction. 3) Put it in reverse, and back out of the block. 4) Stop your car and stick your thumb up your @$$, doing nothing. Certainly, actions #1-3 each have a certain level of risk and/or mild illegality, but in ANY of these choices the outcome is likely better than just burying your head in the sand and closing your eyes, waiting for divine intervention. My assumption is that this driver is likely elderly, with severely diminished cognitive functions.
@@alexclement7221 how is the driver to judge how much time they have to execute any of these maneuvers? Never mind, even, the legality of those first 3 options.
Just another proof how backwards US railroading is. I just try to picture my hometown with the railroad running in the street. It would be a little awkward with 250+ trains a day, half of this number being trains traveling in excess of 100mph.
Engineers should stop trying to compensate for bad road design by expecting travelers to possess unreasonably high levels of skill or attentiveness. Here specifically, safety could be improved by removing parking on the one side and by adjusting the timing of the lights. There may also be other solutions, such as making the road one-way (but here I'm just guessing and I haven't done any actual research to know if it's truly appropriate in this case). In general, the vast majority of all traffic accidents in the USA have poor road design as a contributing factor. Some evidence for this comes from how accidents are often repeatedly occur in certain specific locations, while being relatively rare in other locations, even when total traffic volumes are the same in both places. Further evidence comes from comparing accident statistics before and after various road redesigns across the county. While bad road design is rarely, if ever, the sole factor in accidents where it is as least somewhat of a factor (the root cause of an accident is typically bad road design plus something else, such as driver inattention), traffic safety researchers have nevertheless already objectively demonstrated that by redesigning roads we could in many many places, reduce the number of accidents by 50% or more, while also making the accidents that still happen less serious. Strong Towns has much discussion of both transportation safety and municipal economics (including the costs of road maintenance) in their podcasts, TH-cam videos, and various social media posts. They argue at length that one of the best ways to help make modern towns and cities significantly more prosperous is to rethink how we design and maintain roads, along with rethinking related issues such as zoning (which greatly influences where roads and public transportation need to go, and also influences how walkable cities are.) Again, my main point is simply that engineers should stop trying to compensate for bad road design by expecting travelers to possess unreasonably high levels of skill or attentiveness. The good news is that many engineers have already gotten this message, and in more recent years, we are seeing new roads designs that are more forgiving of driver error.
Professionalism by the train crew with a motorist who may never encountered such a situation before. The motorist may not have seen the approaching train just at the point of turning into Main Street. Removal of the on-street parking would understandably not be popular so perhaps a straightforward solution might be an illuminated 'No Right Turn - Train Coming' sign on 1st Avenue (northbound) triggered well in advance of approaching westbound trains?
I've been thru that corner. It's a 4 way stop sign. I imagine the reason they don't have lights there is because of the train. A stop sign, you have to look whats coming, with a light most people dont look when they have a green. Just my 2 cents
@@redstonerelic A traffic light could turn green to allow cars to exit the street with the other lights on red. Activate the green soon enough to give people enough chance to clear the street.
@@redstonerelic I understand your point of view. In situations like this, I've seen the traffic lights and the railroad lights & gates controlled by a layered system where the traffic box is overridden by the railroad's box when a train comes. Makes the odd road/railroad crossing much safer. Granted, it would cost the city a bit more to add and then maintain traffic lights. It would, however, cut the number of car vs train incidents. That short length of the road isn't wide enough for two parking lanes, two driving lanes, and the train. If you have watched the grab bag often, you may have seen the car that drove straight when the road takes a hard right just as the tracks, from the camera's point of view, curve to the left.
If any city council folks are upset with CSX’s street running, this is perfect fodder for them. Parking on the right should be eliminated; but then the merchants will howl.
He turned at an intersection where other vehicles where ahead of him and more followed behind well before the arms of the signals activated, then he comes face to face with an approaching train. Am I missing something? Were there flashing lights before the arms came down? Is there a "be prepared to take evasive action" sign for drivers?
@@smedleyfarnsworth263 Because the driver was expecting the train to swerve at the last minute like they always do. Wait, what? Whaddya mean trains can't swerve?
@@smedleyfarnsworth263 we have a diverging diamond interchange in our town. Newcomers often find themselves second guessing where they should be going since it puts you on "the wrong side" of the road. I've seen older drivers freeze while they try to figure out something they've never dealt with before. Two fatalities this year when they made the wrong decision. You've got seconds to make your decision with this train.
What a great idea having cars that close to a train and the tracks. I've watched a train go thru with tank cars that looked like Propane, don't know if they were loaded. I guess people are ok with it. If HazMat does go thru there in that amount, wow.
The city either has to eliminate parking on the short side or they need to move the tracks. They could make it one way. The railroad would say move the town.
The City should step in and eliminate the parking on the right side of the street. It would cost CSX a few bucks to move the tracks . That would be me if I was Mayor of LaGrange.
CSX tried to re-route traffic through an alternate route that bypassed LaGrange several years ago, unfortunately they quickly determined that the alternate route couldn't handle the uptick in traffic if they tried to completely by-pass the town without some VERY pricey expansions/modifications. Like 300 million dollars, pricey. The rail line through LaGrange actually pre-dates the town itself by a couple of years (1820's if I remember rightly) and thus the town would legally have to assume the costs of any alterations to the right-of-way. The downtown area of LaGrange is also their Historic District, and many of the shops and buildings are very close to 200 years old now, and some are in the state's Historic Register, and would be VERY expensive to try to move or alter. The town has also started to monetize the railroad/street-running, and has built viewing platforms at the end of town for photographers and tourists to watch the trains. Conveniently located right next to a few cafe's, shops, and diners, of course.
Or put signs up for idiot drivers who obviously are unable to judge,speed,distance width of road and perhaps throw in an eye test for good measure😂😂🏴🇬🇧
How Lucky Can You Get. This Train was Observing the Required Speed for that Particular stretch of Railway along the Street and I can Clearly see the White Line that would make one think, Don't Venture Over This Safety Line, Like one Gentleman said maybe he or she was looking for a new car out of this but Blatantly Reversing the car still half way over the Safety Line is Inherently Dangerous. We have in Queensland Australia only One Major Line which transits down a Road and that is in Rockhampton City. Trains observe the Speed Limits imposed but at times cars and drivers don't make for a good mixture and Dangerous Situations arise and have done there but only damage to car was observed and pretty bad but Driver and Passengers were Ok but we have seen Pedestrians hit on this section of line not thinking and just walking straight in front of a train blaring it's air horns, You would wonder why, Easy, Headphones and High Volume Mobile Phone Music just Fades out everything. Please be it in a car or walking in such area's where you know Trains Frequent be Careful. Observe that which is. Stay outside of the Safety Lines, Keep your Headphones down to a Minimum in these areas and Observe as mentioned. Looking and caring about where one is situated could be the Difference Between Life and Death. A Great Video That Highlights Railway Safety, You are to be Congratulated on Showing this Video and Maybe Railway Companies and Town Government should Consider it for a Safety Campaign about Railway Lines Along Streets and the Requirement of Individuals to Take Note. Regards John from Australia.
hard to tell but it almost looked like it was a tight squeeze but just barely clearing and they understandably got a bit freaked and moved just enough to get caught
@@jamesmckenzie3532 When the car turned the corner, it was behind other cars. Those cars barely made it out of the way. There was no horn when the car turned the corner and the crossing lights were not on.
What was the driver of the white car supposed to do after making an apparently legal right turn onto the street with the track? There was no visible signal or gate down, no bells or horn until the car had completed the turn.
Exactly my question. That whole thing is bad news. Running a track down the middle of Main St might have made sense 100 years ago, but it makes no sense now.
A sensible,aware driver would have seen that enormous locomotive coming at him, spotted that wide open lane to the left, and made a beeline to get in it, even if he was in opposite the traffic flow direction
Get out of the way? Move to the street and turn like the car in front of him did? Go to the other side? Back up to safety? At least clear the clearly painted white line?
How about a quick u-turn or move to the other side of the street. There was plenty of time if they had been paying attention. Reminds me of the old saying " if you can't drive it . park it."
My sister used to own a paint your own pottery shop on Main Street. A woman pulled up waiting for a parking spot and a train hit her car which in turn hit another car which in turn went to the front window of my sister's shop. And this was at Christmas time during the busiest season for her. She lost business, I wouldn't put a claim on the woman who started it all but my sister didn't.
I don't quite understand why that car had to veer left to turn right. Is there a barrier on that corner to prevent a sharp right? Seems a lot of to-do to move a miles-long train for a tiny car.
Usually seen when a booming railroad town sprouted up along the line. Doesn't change the fact the tracks are still private property. It's poor city planning that ultimately results in a situation like this.
In April, 1973, a munitions train bound for 'Nam exploded in the rail yard just far enough away that it didn't level Roseville, CA, which is separated from the main rail line over Donner summit by a two-way street. The explosions were strong enough to rattle our windows 35 miles away.
Hi I heard s rumour that there is supposed to be a virtual rail fan camera set up near walker yard in Edmonton Alberta Canada can you confirm the rumour thank you
If they won't make it one way or delete some parking couldn't there be an early warning system with warning lights so when a train is within say 2 miles of town people know to clear out? Just sayin'.
I’m not sure why the train didn’t just proceed. This would have freed the car in much less time. It didn’t look like there was contact between the car and train.
The rail line predates the town, so legally cannot be forced to move. The town would have to pay for the re-route, which CSX looked at years ago, and determined that it would cost about 300 million (give or take) to move the rail line and the marshalling yard (you can't see it but it's right around the bend in the tracks in this camera's view) that is at the end of the town. As it is, they've re-routed as much traffic onto alternate routes as they can. About 20 years ago, when I moved to Cincinnati from Louisville (near LaGrange) there were 10-15 trains a day through LaGrange. Now it's maybe 2-3. The problem is likely the same now as it was back when CSX started looking at by-passing LaGrange entirely. City Council doesn't want to lose tax revenues from the businesses along Main Street. Business owners don't want to lose the potential traffic flow from the streetside parking, and no-one can legally force the railroad to do anything since they have prior ownership of the land rights to the right-of-way (and incidentally, the street) through town. Alternately, the town doesn't want to pay the 300 million to move the railroad. Of course, in the 1820-30's traffic wasn't a problem, but now between the politicians and the merchants, no-one's going to do much to change things. As for the railroad, between the low amount of train traffic and the very slow speed restrictions, when the occasional bump does happen in LaGrange, all they have to do is slap some paint on the newest dent on their steel leviathans and deal with a slight delay on an already low-traffic sub, which doesn't cost them enough to make it worthwhile to entirely by-pass the town.
I am confuse, is this a one way street because the other cars are parked in the opposite direction that line up with the train or am I seeing correctly 😳
Hats off to this train crew...they are more gracious than I would have been.
Well put.
'Course, we don't know what they were saying under their breath!🤬
Looks like someone who's never seen a train street running panicked , and had no idea what to do.
Same here
You mean that they Have a driver's license 🤔 and THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN A TRAIN 🚆 🤔? Those 2 strips of steel in the black top are for landing a 747.😁🤣
He's probably in the market for a new car so he just wanted to get a closer look at the auto racks to know what to expect
😆 😂 😆 😂 😆 😂
Well he's probably in the market for a new car after this!
If the racks had anything on them 😐
Good joke!
Not a smart driver. Didn't speed up to get to the next corner, didn't back up to get out of the way, didn't go over on the left side of the street or make a U turn to get on the wider side. Just planted themselves in the worst possible place.
a lot of those are people who have NEVER seen a street running train bearing down on them and they panic.
@@mikemalo47 When I worked for CZRY and FCPNO in San Diego and Tijuana, we would get people stopped on the tracks all the time. One lady tried to drive her car between the fuel tank and the front truck when they were switching in the propane transfer plant in Tijuana. It took 3 hours to get her out of there.
@@mikemalo47 I have never seen one either but know enough to know get to the next street, up on the right Or pull in and park. I’d be filming the train 🚂 unless it’s in a place where they harass you for filming a train you’re “suspicious “ 🤷♀️ 🙄
@@Queeni_3e Go to the next street? Well, what if the train was going faster than you thought? What if a car(the black car ahead), blocked your clear view of this train coming from around a bend, and what if you were from out of town and had never seen such a thing ... I just love it when people's shiet just doesn't stink ...
@@PISQUEFrancis you are just the type that fouls up things if you believe the gibberish you posted.
Ah, La Grange. Not many trains and no speed at all, but heavy on drama.
Last year there was a wreck that shut the interstate down and this street was a madhouse of 18-wheelers, RVs, and cars for about 2 hours, and many trailers laid on the tracks for the traffic light. No train drama but it was as colorful and loud as all get-out.
Could you imagine a tractor-trailer heading towards an oncoming train on this street?
@@rrchapman Don't have seen it a time or two
I saw that it a mad house for sure
The video was 7 minutes but us people watching the live stream saw this for WAY longer 😂
I think they need to make the parking on just one side of the street. or a one way street.
Agreed! I've always wondered why they don't. 🤷🏻♀️
But then we wouldn't get cool vids like this, I guess, lol
I know right? "Hey theres barely a lane here for traffic so they dont have to drive on the tracks, lets make it parking spots" 🤦♂️
I'm with you; La Grange needs to eliminate parking on that side of Main St, at least in the 2 blocks between 1st and Cedar. I was looking at Google street/satellite view to see if there's any space behind the buildings to put in a parking lot. Unfortunately, some of the buildings are historical and can't be torn down, but there's an insurance agency in what looks like a former bank that has a parking lot with space for at least 10-15 cars. Insurance agencies usually don't have a lot of traffic, so the city should work out a deal with the agency to take over maintenance of the lot and make it public parking. They can put up signage reserving a set number of spaces for agency staff and customers.
@@SarahRenz59 ", some of the buildings are historical and can't be torn down" they tear down historical building all the time.
The merchants will probably complain if they eliminate parking on that side of the street.
Had time to make a U-turn but panic set in, so I guess it was like I'll just sit here and see what happens 😂
La Grange never fails to disappoint! Always something crazy going on here.
I completely agree that the parking should just be removed on that side of the street. However, there were several options the driver had to avoid this and they literally did none of them. It's funny how so many drivers aren't very good yet expect the world to revolve around them.
Train had 708 axles and was 11,129 ft long, no idea of tonnage but Engineer sounded the horn in good time, the car didn't get hit by the locomotive but by one of the following cars.
Maybe they can make the arm come down and the lights start flashing sooner than normal, given the potential danger. I'll bet that person would have never turned then!
Yes, extend approach circuit, a couple of hundred feet of wire would have prevented this.
At least a "No right turn - Train" sign that could light before the crossing gates need to be lowered.
A good idea, considering the road seems designed for very low speeds, anyway, so there is really no way to clear the tracks other than a u-turn. Perhaps, a compromise could be a flashing 'NO RIGHT TURN--TRAIN APPROACHING' instead of an early arm coming down since there is enough time for several cars going straight to continue clearing the intersection. Or, just eliminate parking, at least in that block. Since the track's position is off-center, that would be the best compromise.
That is 100% a solution here. The signals need to trigger much earlier. If you look at the car, it turns right legally 'and just then' the signals activate. But they're driving toward the train in a 20-25MPH zone at most, and in an environment like that short downtown block probably slower. So now they're headed toward a train going the same speed they are, that's on trajectory to hit the next intersection at the same time. Their options are all illegal: back up in a road lane, drive into the oncoming lane, or make a u-turn not at an intersection... There was no legal solution.
@@culcune Agree. The county engineer is just leaning on "the book" as an excuse that "everything is compliant" when that doesn't mean there isn't a practical problem to be solved. Seen this complacency and victim blaming too many times professionally...
A quick fix for this issue is 1, don't allow parking on thst side of the street (would provide more room for passing cars) and 2, put the signal activation thing a bit further away so peeps have more time to clear out.
One side has room for a parked car and a car to pass. Other side doesn't.
Very bad luck to see(hear?), the gates coming down with another 300' to go ... let alone the trees and traffic blocking much of the view.
Yes! I'm so tired of seeing people blame this driver when, 1. They made a legal right hand turn when there were no lights or gates or horns, and 2. They were immediately confronted with an oncoming train who then just sounded it's horn and bell. 3. There is no lane width in which to reside because of the parking, and 4., The oncoming train is coming at about the same speed of the car where they're going to meet up at the next intersection of escape. I don't understand how this is legal because if the car speeds it's breaking the law and if the car stops and backs up, it's technically breaking the law and there's no space for the car to escape without breaking the law or making a U-turn if it has the turning radius to do so.
It's insane to me that the town allows the parking considering that this can occur because the gates and lights don't come down early enough to prevent anyone from turning right in time. We can all play armchair quarterback but I absolutely understand where the car drivers coming from, especially if you imagine turning right and then facing an oncoming train which is not something that you ever ever do
@@ammagee AND the fix is rather simple ... the city should relinquish a small portion of the R/W(on which the sidewalk sits), ... maybe 10-20 inches is all that is needed ... then, maybe consider a central "safety zone", where a large parking area can be utilized in emergencies ... of any sort, because we all know an ambulance would have a really rough time stopping on that side of the RR, if an emergency existed ...
I don't blame the city for the tight quarters, but I blame the city for not attempting to realistically reduce the impact of the RR ... the city probably wears this situation as a unique badge of honor ... they need to use a little imagination ...
@@PISQUEFrancis Agree. I work in the urban planning realm and have worked with city and transportation engineers. Almost all of the time, they don't care because "it's compliant", despite there being actual solutions. They lean on "the book" as a scapegoat to not do actual hard work.
I would like to see how an automated self driving car would have handled that...
probably even worse, such as stop in the center of the tracks and wait for the other (very large) car to move further to one side......
@@shanerountree3623 Very likely as the automated car would see the train as being in the wrong lane but going very slow so would stop expecting the train to move to it's proper lane.
Great question for the future for sure
To be fair to the driver, the lights and barriers weren't activated when they turned, and then the panic looked to set in. I know there's probably more to it, but I've always wondered why they can't just make that two blocks a one way!?
Great idea!
Or extend approach circuit some distance
Or eliminate parking on that side of the street and make it a driving lane- the other side has enough room for parking and a drive lane and I cannot recall any car vrs locomotive on that side, at least recently.
@@chadlampson
Agree!
The merchants would not allow the loss of parking in front of their store
In many towns, cities, metro areas, etc., the activation of traffic signals also triggers brightly lit signs prohibiting left turns/right turns, etc. Seeing as how a crossing gate system could be categorized as a traffic signal, last minute turns such as these could be prevented by such a system. The major flaw I see here is the timing of the crossing gate activation is not soon enough to prevent the dumbest of drivers from making a questionable decision. The activation should have been at least a quarter mile out. Of course the poor decisions continue, as the driver fails to turn around in the ample street space. The flaw in that regard is the City Of Lagrange has not restricted parking in an area midway down the block to allow for emergency excursions off the right-of-way, as other cities/towns do at busy crossings where traffic may back up due to a signal just beyond the crossing.
I see nothing in this video to suggest that the car driver was dumb or did anything at all that was wrong. Expecting the driver to make a U-turn in that amount of time -- and expecting the car to be able to make that turn without requiring a 3-point turn (which would also be dangerous here) simply isn't reasonable. The space between the white line and the parked cars is ridiculously small, as well.
Agreed... This is happening all too often...OMO..Have the gates at the big intersection and the smaller one go down at the same time and a lite sign that states train approaching/ no turning on red
@@mattorel agreed. It's also unreasonable to expect the driver to illegally move to the opposite side of the road. Everyone calling these drivers dumb is smugly sitting behind a screen, with full knowledge of how this intersection works. It could be that driver's first day in KY for all we know. They didn't do anything different than the 2 cars before them. They were just at the wrong place in line.
All the bright lights in the world won't have any effect on some people. Quit hoping the nanny state can make up for stupidity.
@@mattorel I agree. Having watched this , I saw the car driver was already passed crossing and on route before crossing became activated. Car driver not at fault . Just got there at wrong timing . Train crew were good in helping though
The car doesn't get much damage until the 3rd freight car (first autorack) passes it and then the car starts to move again after another freight car length has passed. It gets stuck between the 8th and 9th freight cars. There's hardly a dull moment in Main Street La Grange, Kentucky!
That car wasn't hit by the train.
@@toomanyhobbies2011 That car was hit by the train.
@@toomanyhobbies2011 The car wasn't hit by the Engines. It was hit by the Autoracks. If it was an elderly driver their license should be surrendered. If the driver was one of the other younger locals, they must've had an IQ of 50.
No dull moments. But plenty of dull drivers.
Agree with the other notes that parking on this side should be eliminated. Via Google Maps, there are 12 parking spots on the block of the accident and 11 spots on the block to the west (across from the park). There are plenty of angled parking slots on the other side of the street on those blocks and on surrounding side streets. Only allow drop-offs at the curb.
They had plenty of time to move out of the way. U-turn, left turn, back up.... Must have just frozen up.
Yes Froze up I think. I would have dived to the left of the train track and tried for a U turn.
@@paulwarner5395 Drive to the left and potentially meet a driver coming the other way.
The city NEEDS to find a way to make that street less narrow, be it disallow parking on that block, making it all one way, SOMETHING. There's too much jammed in that one area.
Naaa been that way since I was a kid people need to have common sense
Why does this town allow parking on this side of the street? This is always happening.
I love that it's a historic district, the RR was there before the town, the tracks are 1820's, the buildings 200 years old (BTW, I'd like to see the numbers on that- 2022 minus 200 years is 1822, and the tracks date to the 1820's ? ), and the city has to preserve the parking spaces for the historical automobiles, to keep the merchants happy...
The timing is unfortunate, but there's so much the driver could have done better, not least going on to the opposite side of the street.
True - plenty of room on the other side, just cross over and parkit.
You wouldn't think of that at the time, but he/she could have moved over enough to avoid being hit. Horrible situation. What if they were driving a truck, they'd be stuck there.
In this case, maybe. There's another incident from a couple years ago at the same spot where the driver did exactly that, only to have another vehicle turn right in to the same lane at the same time. The result was a head-on collision with the train. The problem here isn't the drive; it's an astoundingly awful design.
Which would've been illegal though, right? Crossing the centerline into oncoming traffic?
@@ammagee Better that than getting run over by a train, no?
Here in New Zealand we have cycle paths that run alongside railway tracks with traffic lights at the crossings to help cyclists get across the roads. If a train trips the circuit while the light is already green for a cyclist then a yellow to red arrow comes on telling cyclists not to turn to cross the train tracks. Shortly after this the level crossing activates. So what they could have at the intersection here is some yellow and red arrow lights that activate while the train is still a way out to tell cars not to turn into the street without stopping through traffic unnecessarily early.
With the crossing not being active when the car turned and nowhere for them to go after they had turned, the fault here is poor road layout rather than anything that driver did. Sure, they could have gone into the wrong lane, but I'd argue that's not much safer since someone could easily turn into the street coming the other way since that crossing has no alarms and there's plenty of room for a small car to drive alongside a train on the other side.
But really the best solution is either make it one-way heading west or remove the parking on the eastbound side.
Amen!
I've just watched a second time and come to the same conclusion as you. There is nothing to warn the car driver that a train will be coming, so as you say, the parking should be removed on that side. I don't know if reducing the width of the sidewalk would give enough clearance- maybe for cars but not trucks.
At least in New Zealand, I don't think that you are likely to meet a train on a shared bridge anymore.
Totally agree with you. Who was the engineer that decided to put rails down the middle of a busy downtown street? Its not like its tracks for trains used to move people up and down the shopping district. Nobody expects to see tracks in the middle of a street!
@@brunoskorniak9722 Chances are that the tracks were there long before most of the town. And in the 1800s, people actually _admired_ trains, and _wanted_ them in town centers. Your home was in the most desirable part of town if its back porch faced directly on the train tracks with very little distance from porch to track. With the passage of time and the advent of the automobile, things changed.
@@brunoskorniak9722 that street should be closed to auto traffic!
I usually blame the driver, but in this case, the white lines for the tracks and parking spaces, aren't even as far apart as a small car is wide. I've thought for some time, that that section of the block, shouldn't even have parking there.
Some of the parked cars were close enough to the curb that the driver could have pulled in close to them and probably squeeze by but the driver would not stop till they got hit.
At least no parking on that side. The street is very off-centered, and there is really no way to fix it, other than have no parking on that side.
@@culcune unless you move the curb over about 3 ft it could be done
And I should point out there were NO white lines next to the tracks until earlier this year-late spring, I think.
I'm on team "blame the bad road design." Based on StreetView, it looks like these two blocks (the one fully visible on camera, and the one the camera is situated on) have the lanes marked for Eastbound (the camera is facing East) traffic to simply share the lane with... oncoming trains. This could also have happened if the driver had been driving Eastbound from earlier along this road, since there are no Xing signals or signs on this street itself (only the cross streets, and several of them have only Xing signs with no signal). No road should ever be designed for any vehicle to share a lane with oncoming traffic of any kind, and there's also no markings on the road indicating the need to move leftwards to continue in that direction (which, viewing it from the top, is the way to go). We shouldn't be designing roads that rely on "make a last-minute U-turn or swerve in front of oncoming traffic to avoid colliding with it."
Welcome to Kentucky. Where we don’t watch for trains and a red light equals a green light.
I never understood why a city council (or whatever they call it over there) never addressed this reality for their own town?? (Either ban parking on that street, or make it one way only or something…). I know, it is fun to watch but….
It's called Money$$$! They don't want to miss a dime of tax money and the shop owners want people parked outside their doors!
Oh I'm sure it's been addressed many many times over the decades the tracks have been there.
Well, that’s going to be hard to top!!!
There should be no parking allowed on that side of the street. If the driver did anything illegal, I didn't see it.
ya since the tracks favor that side of the street, there should be no street parking over there because there is no room between the white line, and the parking lines for a car to sit. The other side of the road is fine as is.
You said what I was thinking. Make that side of the street no parking. I felt for the driver. The train engineer deserves kudos because I think he knew something was going to happen.
The car was over the white line.
Or simply put a couple of no park spaces on that side so there will be a space to pull into in this sort of situation. Of course that would depend on no one else parking in them for “ just a moment “
CSX “street-rubbing”. Fun traffic afterwards!
Conversation with insurance agent... "I sideswiped a train trying to be boss..."
I swear DL's are given too freely in this country. No PD to give that person a lecture?
@Eragor the Kindhearted reverse
yes, reverse or cross over to the other side of the street, where there were no oncoming cars and enough room to get off the white lines.
I think they're going to have to activate the Main//1st gates sooner. There was absolutely no where for that cat to go. There's no enough room with the street parking on that side to get through. Might even need to have a gate across Main St at the corner to keep cars from going down that narrow lane. Again that is going to have to activate way ahead of the train even turning the bend.
That or a one-way street.
That car could have backed up
I live in LaGrange, he/she could have made a u-turn and had room to spare on the opposite side of the street. It looks like he/she panicked.
U-turn, reverse, or gun it to that right turn. They had options and took none of them.
Is there an alley at mid block that could be used by drivers to bail out in this situation?
Stuck between a rock & a hard place
Another great Video VRF .
"0 Days since the last LaGrange Incident"
All that I can say is wow! Thanks for sharing this one.
They had plenty of time to move out of the way. There was a lot of space on the left side.
Agreed. I don't understand the big debate here in the comments. Pretty easy to see who was at fault.
I hope in these types of Cases. That Car insurances Do NOT PAY OUT. Due to the Driver's Action.
Does the local paper have a column Bumblef***s of the Week? While it may be quaint it sure ain't safe
I have to say, I'm not sure what the car driver could have done. They had no way of knowing a train was coming when they turned into the street, and after that there just wasn't enough room for them with the train on one side and the parked car on the other. They could have tried a fast reverse, which is not easy with cars and people about, or crossed in front of the train and potentially into traffic coming the other way. I don't think it's the train driver's fault either - I doubt they could have stopped in time. The accident is the fault of poor street design - either it should be one way, or there should be no parking that side of the road, or the barriers should be activated earlier.
As an avid train watcher, I came to the same conclusion. Reversing the vehicle was probably the best bet, but could they have hit/hurt/injured a pedestrian?
@@BadKruser No pedestrians were in the street and the driver had time enough for a U-turn or 3 point turn or even move (carefully) to the other lane
@Mister Flibble Well, maybe. But it takes a lot of nerve to do that when a train is bearing down on you, and the consequences of getting it wrong could be fatal. It's very easy to watch the feed and see that there were no pedestrians about - I expect the perspective from the driver's seat is rather different.
Well, as I see it, he had 4 choices: 1) Speed up to the next intersection and turn. 2) Do a U-turn and either pull over, or do choice #1 going the other direction. 3) Put it in reverse, and back out of the block. 4) Stop your car and stick your thumb up your @$$, doing nothing.
Certainly, actions #1-3 each have a certain level of risk and/or mild illegality, but in ANY of these choices the outcome is likely better than just burying your head in the sand and closing your eyes, waiting for divine intervention. My assumption is that this driver is likely elderly, with severely diminished cognitive functions.
@@alexclement7221 how is the driver to judge how much time they have to execute any of these maneuvers? Never mind, even, the legality of those first 3 options.
Just takes one beanhead too mess it up for everyone else 🤣
LaGrange never disappoints. I wonder if the city has ever thought for this street to be ‘no cars’ status.
Just another proof how backwards US railroading is. I just try to picture my hometown with the railroad running in the street. It would be a little awkward with 250+ trains a day, half of this number being trains traveling in excess of 100mph.
Is it lonely up there on your pedestal?
Engineers should stop trying to compensate for bad road design by expecting travelers to possess unreasonably high levels of skill or attentiveness.
Here specifically, safety could be improved by removing parking on the one side and by adjusting the timing of the lights. There may also be other solutions, such as making the road one-way (but here I'm just guessing and I haven't done any actual research to know if it's truly appropriate in this case).
In general, the vast majority of all traffic accidents in the USA have poor road design as a contributing factor. Some evidence for this comes from how accidents are often repeatedly occur in certain specific locations, while being relatively rare in other locations, even when total traffic volumes are the same in both places. Further evidence comes from comparing accident statistics before and after various road redesigns across the county. While bad road design is rarely, if ever, the sole factor in accidents where it is as least somewhat of a factor (the root cause of an accident is typically bad road design plus something else, such as driver inattention), traffic safety researchers have nevertheless already objectively demonstrated that by redesigning roads we could in many many places, reduce the number of accidents by 50% or more, while also making the accidents that still happen less serious.
Strong Towns has much discussion of both transportation safety and municipal economics (including the costs of road maintenance) in their podcasts, TH-cam videos, and various social media posts. They argue at length that one of the best ways to help make modern towns and cities significantly more prosperous is to rethink how we design and maintain roads, along with rethinking related issues such as zoning (which greatly influences where roads and public transportation need to go, and also influences how walkable cities are.)
Again, my main point is simply that engineers should stop trying to compensate for bad road design by expecting travelers to possess unreasonably high levels of skill or attentiveness. The good news is that many engineers have already gotten this message, and in more recent years, we are seeing new roads designs that are more forgiving of driver error.
Professionalism by the train crew with a motorist who may never encountered such a situation before. The motorist may not have seen the approaching train just at the point of turning into Main Street.
Removal of the on-street parking would understandably not be popular so perhaps a straightforward solution might be an illuminated 'No Right Turn - Train Coming' sign on 1st Avenue (northbound) triggered well in advance of approaching westbound trains?
lol the center placed engines are such a cocktease if you're waiting at a grade crossing
Oh aren't we lucky, those of us who live in North Kentucky!
Lagrange isn't known for having the smartest people and the driver of that car proved it
This particular corner needs a set of traffic lights. That was a nightmare to watch.
I've been thru that corner. It's a 4 way stop sign. I imagine the reason they don't have lights there is because of the train. A stop sign, you have to look whats coming, with a light most people dont look when they have a green. Just my 2 cents
@@redstonerelic A traffic light could turn green to allow cars to exit the street with the other lights on red. Activate the green soon enough to give people enough chance to clear the street.
@@redstonerelic I understand your point of view.
In situations like this, I've seen the traffic lights and the railroad lights & gates controlled by a layered system where the traffic box is overridden by the railroad's box when a train comes. Makes the odd road/railroad crossing much safer.
Granted, it would cost the city a bit more to add and then maintain traffic lights. It would, however, cut the number of car vs train incidents.
That short length of the road isn't wide enough for two parking lanes, two driving lanes, and the train. If you have watched the grab bag often, you may have seen the car that drove straight when the road takes a hard right just as the tracks, from the camera's point of view, curve to the left.
If any city council folks are upset with CSX’s street running, this is perfect fodder for them. Parking on the right should be eliminated; but then the merchants will howl.
If they're upset with the street-running, they'd better not be blaming CSX. The railroad was there long before this road was laid down.
I hope the driver of that car realizes how badly they messed up the town's traffic
the patience of these crewmen surprise me
He turned at an intersection where other vehicles where ahead of him and more followed behind well before the arms of the signals activated, then he comes face to face with an approaching train. Am I missing something? Were there flashing lights before the arms came down? Is there a "be prepared to take evasive action" sign for drivers?
Fantastic grab bag
You said it yourself, "he comes face to face with an approaching train". Why didn't that trigger his "get out of the way" mode?
@@smedleyfarnsworth263 Because the driver was expecting the train to swerve at the last minute like they always do. Wait, what? Whaddya mean trains can't swerve?
@@smedleyfarnsworth263 we have a diverging diamond interchange in our town. Newcomers often find themselves second guessing where they should be going since it puts you on "the wrong side" of the road. I've seen older drivers freeze while they try to figure out something they've never dealt with before. Two fatalities this year when they made the wrong decision. You've got seconds to make your decision with this train.
Agree this is purely the train drivers fault
Hopefully the driver was issued a ticket. No need for guess work
What a great idea having cars that close to a train and the tracks. I've watched a train go thru with tank cars that looked like Propane, don't know if they were loaded. I guess people are ok with it. If HazMat does go thru there in that amount, wow.
@@palamco interesting thanks
@@jakebrakebill
You must be new, welcome
That driver had time to get to the street where that SUV turned, the black one. Well they got on the Darwin Award candidate list.
The city either has to eliminate parking on the short side or they need to move the tracks. They could make it one way. The railroad would say move the town.
The City should step in and eliminate the parking on the right side of the street. It would cost CSX a few bucks to move the tracks . That would be me if I was Mayor of LaGrange.
CSX tried to re-route traffic through an alternate route that bypassed LaGrange several years ago, unfortunately they quickly determined that the alternate route couldn't handle the uptick in traffic if they tried to completely by-pass the town without some VERY pricey expansions/modifications. Like 300 million dollars, pricey. The rail line through LaGrange actually pre-dates the town itself by a couple of years (1820's if I remember rightly) and thus the town would legally have to assume the costs of any alterations to the right-of-way. The downtown area of LaGrange is also their Historic District, and many of the shops and buildings are very close to 200 years old now, and some are in the state's Historic Register, and would be VERY expensive to try to move or alter. The town has also started to monetize the railroad/street-running, and has built viewing platforms at the end of town for photographers and tourists to watch the trains. Conveniently located right next to a few cafe's, shops, and diners, of course.
Or put signs up for idiot drivers who obviously are unable to judge,speed,distance width of road and perhaps throw in an eye test for good measure😂😂🏴🇬🇧
I do wonder why the city of LaGrange has not made that street one way, or at least done away with the parking on the south side of the street?
Whoever was driving that car should loose their license!!!
I'm always extra cautious while on that road.
Lack of common sense! if you see a big train coming head on, Make room. the engineer gave enough warning. Kudos to the train crew.
If this happened to me, my anxiety would go 📈📈📈📈
Note to self... refer driver to detailer and dry cleaners about the seat and pants.
It would be no joke. Just sitting there with no time to do anything, better to have moved over a bit.
I think people should be tested for common sense also on the DMV driving test.
How Lucky Can You Get.
This Train was Observing the Required Speed for that Particular stretch of Railway along the Street and I can Clearly see the White Line that would make one think, Don't Venture Over This Safety Line, Like one Gentleman said maybe he or she was looking for a new car out of this but Blatantly Reversing the car still half way over the Safety Line is Inherently Dangerous.
We have in Queensland Australia only One Major Line which transits down a Road and that is in Rockhampton City.
Trains observe the Speed Limits imposed but at times cars and drivers don't make for a good mixture and Dangerous Situations arise and have done there but only damage to car was observed and pretty bad but Driver and Passengers were Ok but we have seen Pedestrians hit on this section of line not thinking and just walking straight in front of a train blaring it's air horns, You would wonder why, Easy, Headphones and High Volume Mobile Phone Music just Fades out everything.
Please be it in a car or walking in such area's where you know Trains Frequent be Careful.
Observe that which is.
Stay outside of the Safety Lines, Keep your Headphones down to a Minimum in these areas and Observe as mentioned.
Looking and caring about where one is situated could be the Difference Between Life and Death.
A Great Video That Highlights Railway Safety, You are to be Congratulated on Showing this Video and Maybe Railway Companies and Town Government should Consider it for a Safety Campaign about Railway Lines Along Streets and the Requirement of Individuals to Take Note.
Regards
John from Australia.
hard to tell but it almost looked like it was a tight squeeze but just barely clearing and they understandably got a bit freaked and moved just enough to get caught
It's always a four-wheeler!
Driver should be glad they didn't get grabbed and dragged. There's a reason you never approach a train like that within 1/4 mile.
No gate or signal... maybe railroad should extend that approach circuit by some distance
And how was the driver supposed to know? It was a legal right turn without the crossing lights activated.
@@rrchapman Look down the road. You can clearly see the train approaching and you can hear the horn.
@@jamesmckenzie3532 When the car turned the corner, it was behind other cars. Those cars barely made it out of the way.
There was no horn when the car turned the corner and the crossing lights were not on.
@@rrchapman The horn was way down the street at the second away crossing. I'm glad they didn't get hit. This has happened in the past on that street.
OH MY GOD I SAW THIS ON STREAM IM LUCKY
get rid of those parking spaces
Were there Darwin candidates climbing between the next car behind the rejoining?
That is what most of these comments should be about.
I had the impression that the RR personnel waved them through before the train backed up.
What was the driver of the white car supposed to do after making an apparently legal right turn onto the street with the track? There was no visible signal or gate down, no bells or horn until the car had completed the turn.
Exactly my question. That whole thing is bad news. Running a track down the middle of Main St might have made sense 100 years ago, but it makes no sense now.
A sensible,aware driver would have seen that enormous locomotive coming at him, spotted that wide open lane to the left, and made a beeline to get in it, even if he was in opposite the traffic flow direction
Get out of the way? Move to the street and turn like the car in front of him did? Go to the other side? Back up to safety? At least clear the clearly painted white line?
How about a quick u-turn or move to the other side of the street. There was plenty of time if they had been paying attention.
Reminds me of the old saying " if you can't drive it . park it."
@@MatthewChapmanSTL Nobody ran a track down the middle of the street. The street was ran over the right of way.
Hope the crew got the driver's info. Send them a bill.
Locomotive 2008 driver saw a car over white line and carried on. He should have STOPPED.
driver panicked , good chance they soiled their shorts too
My sister used to own a paint your own pottery shop on Main Street. A woman pulled up waiting for a parking spot and a train hit her car which in turn hit another car which in turn went to the front window of my sister's shop. And this was at Christmas time during the busiest season for her. She lost business, I wouldn't put a claim on the woman who started it all but my sister didn't.
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U turn and flee…….that was an option for the car driver…..
Most cars would have problems making a U-turn in the width of two lanes, especially as quick as that one needed to be made.
Should have just gotten out of the car! A human life is still worth more than a vehicle, right?
On today's list of stories no one would believe unless it was recorded....
Geesh, what a mess that individual created.
That's scary. Barely enough time to reconnect the air hose and turn the stopcock, let alone re-pressurize the train pipe.
I don't quite understand why that car had to veer left to turn right. Is there a barrier on that corner to prevent a sharp right? Seems a lot of to-do to move a miles-long train for a tiny car.
Ill never understand trains down the middle of the street.
Usually seen when a booming railroad town sprouted up along the line. Doesn't change the fact the tracks are still private property. It's poor city planning that ultimately results in a situation like this.
Problem is that they are not in the middle.
A Tesla know how to avoid a street running train,unless it’s too fast 💨
Wow, just wow!
Why isn't there a traffic light indicator that a trains approaching?
In April, 1973, a munitions train bound for 'Nam exploded in the rail yard just far enough away that it didn't level Roseville, CA, which is separated from the main rail line over Donner summit by a two-way street. The explosions were strong enough to rattle our windows 35 miles away.
Cool story, bro!
What is wrong with the water in this Town, as the folks have some perception issue.
They're all Kin in Kintucky! ;-)
I would have so loved to tell that driver what I thought of thier decision skills.
You make a legal right turn when there are no railroad crossing signals activated. What could have been done differently?
@@rrchapman pay attention down the road, not 10 feet in front of you. Not to mention the lights on the giant blue and yellow thing coming at you.
@@sharkey086 When the person turned, the train was still coming around the corner.
@@rrchapman could have turned around then make a right at the light..
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Odd. Driver acts like they never saw the train coming.
Looking for a parking spot or an address, maybe an uber driver looking for his ride. Saw the train too late.
i was watching that one in la grange when it happened i was like wow close call
If they won't make it one way or delete some parking couldn't there be an early warning system with warning lights so when a train is within say 2 miles of town people know to clear out? Just sayin'.
I’m not sure why the train didn’t just proceed. This would have freed the car in much less time. It didn’t look like there was contact between the car and train.
Look closer.
Very good videos my friend
They need to make that section of La Grange a pedestrian-only road or re-route the train line so it doesn't go through the town
The rail line predates the town, so legally cannot be forced to move. The town would have to pay for the re-route, which CSX looked at years ago, and determined that it would cost about 300 million (give or take) to move the rail line and the marshalling yard (you can't see it but it's right around the bend in the tracks in this camera's view) that is at the end of the town. As it is, they've re-routed as much traffic onto alternate routes as they can. About 20 years ago, when I moved to Cincinnati from Louisville (near LaGrange) there were 10-15 trains a day through LaGrange. Now it's maybe 2-3.
The problem is likely the same now as it was back when CSX started looking at by-passing LaGrange entirely. City Council doesn't want to lose tax revenues from the businesses along Main Street. Business owners don't want to lose the potential traffic flow from the streetside parking, and no-one can legally force the railroad to do anything since they have prior ownership of the land rights to the right-of-way (and incidentally, the street) through town. Alternately, the town doesn't want to pay the 300 million to move the railroad. Of course, in the 1820-30's traffic wasn't a problem, but now between the politicians and the merchants, no-one's going to do much to change things. As for the railroad, between the low amount of train traffic and the very slow speed restrictions, when the occasional bump does happen in LaGrange, all they have to do is slap some paint on the newest dent on their steel leviathans and deal with a slight delay on an already low-traffic sub, which doesn't cost them enough to make it worthwhile to entirely by-pass the town.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE PEOPLE IN LAGRANGE, KY?????????? WHERE DID THEY LEARN TO DRIVE A CAR AND ARE THEY ALL DEAF?
0:30 LEFT GO TO THE LEFT! There is enough space, why is no one using it? FFS...
I was wondering why they let those kids run across the tracks between the cars just before the train started backing up.
oh my ! 😮
Nice grab bag
I am confuse, is this a one way street because the other cars are parked in the opposite direction that line up with the train or am I seeing correctly 😳
No, it's a two way street. The tracks are not directly down the center though.
@@Narpets2112 A one-way street would help, though. The one side has room enough for a car to pull over and park.
@@rrchapman Trains go both ways.
Bro this went on for more than one hr?