Might as well have gotten a microfighter instead. It'd match Plo Koon's starfighter (unfortunately) and we get the minifigures for way cheaper. And paying the difference to build your own full scale MOC would probably be cheaper anyway
I dont care about that. I care about the buld and this build fucking sucks 😂. Thats why I only buy 18+ sets because the play sets are just to downsized and dumbed down these days.
@@ResidentMC117they still fully print the instructions, so the same amount of ink is used. What it really saves is money. They save themselves money by not paying an artist.
I didn’t realize that the white cockpit stickers were not always bad. Insane that they could do it right in 2010 and don’t even bother to care now. Ugh
My jaw dropped when you showed the bottom. That looks like a design LEGO would do a long time ago (in a galaxy...). How did they design the wing mechanism so well, but have the bottom be so loosely connected. I have the 2nd version of the ARC 170, but I'm still torn whether I want this or not.
To be fair, the ARC-170 has a really weird and flat bottom there. Not exactly like in the model, but still. The part that ruins it is more the gap for the extended studs of the lever mechanism.
@@Matt..S It really feels like they just forgot to put a row of bricks there. If Ryan hadn't said anything, I would have thought that he build it wrong.
lego designers probably thought: "people have been waiting on this set for 15 years, let's not care about the price, the downsize, the stickers, the awful details, they will buy it anyways"
The stickered windshield pieces are so disappointing. for a set that's so small and also $70 is such an unfortunate thing. Especially as they continue to portray it as printed on the box.
@PrecursorOrb1 are you really telling me these Star Wars prices are prices kids can afford!? The skiff was 80 dollars, sith infiltrator was 80, this arc 170 is 70, the coruscaunt gunship is 140, At-te is 140. The only way you can make this argument is if you find people complaining about battle packs, 4+ sets, or mechs but even then Kid sets shouldn't be terrible just because its "for kids."
@@adamosborne3765 it’s a toy, kids use their greatest of imagination to manifest their play. Adults take this waaay too seriously and just complain. Adults buy it because they want their kids to just have fun.
As more details are added, the average price size is significantly smaller. Price by piece is outdated. Price by weight is how we should calculate value.
Hi MandR! Not related to the 75402, but I turned the Fang Fighter and TIE Interceptor set into an Imperial Bunker, Mini Fang Fighter and Spider Tank. The functions are: Bunker: - opening front door - interior - removable roof for play - cannon with 2 spring loaded shooters - cannon can rotate 360 degrees and move up and down - cannon has space for 1 figure Fang Fighter: - space for 1 figure - 2 spring loaded shooters on the bottom Spider Tank: - moving legs - space for 1 figure
Price is unjustifiably expensive period. Not for the value we’re receiving. 16 stickers??? Mega sets for a quarter the price have 100+ printed pieces… Lego can absolutely stop doing stickers and still make money so it’s kinda a ridiculous idea that it costs too much to print every piece. No back printing on astrmechs is ridiculous and a loss Lego needs to fix. Dual molded legs should’ve been a requirement Size is too small across the board. This would be an ok $45 set…. However it’s a $75 set
As someone who isn’t a purist LEGO set collector, a lot of the proportional issues with this build seem easy enough to amend with some extra pieces. However, the stickers are truly tragic. Speed Champions once suffered from a similar issue, however, their printed screen pieces were improved, so why not the same treatment with Star Wars???
Strong agree about the modding. This set just looks like an overpriced somewhat fine base of improvement for more pieces to be used to extend its lenght, width and some replacement touches like the cockpit glass. It sounds terrible because it is, like spending 70$ and then having more pieces every single time to fix it? Nahh, better off on clearance and then try the changes if someone is REALLY motivated for it (which talking about army building... It feels annoying)
Hate to say it but lego has orchestrated this perfectly. Hate the price (they casually add around the equivalent of 5$ in our currency since the only lego store in the country has this sort of chokehold on the lego market here) , not a fan of the general downscale (but can live with it i guess), but have never owned an arc-170. They kinda force our hands here since yes, I could wait for them to release ANOTHER one but God knows how that will look, how high the price will be at that point and when that will happen again. Hard to tell when they will bring this set on sale in my country so its either full price or bust :/
This is something I have been doing far more frequently lately, it's really sad on Lego's part they can't be bothered to go that extra step, that I have to go out and make changes myself.
Can’t include waist capes because kids have to take them off in order to get them to sit, but yet it’s perfectly fine to limit the size when a kid would have to take the pilots out/adjust them to get the astromech to fit. Make it make sense.
I'd say one BIG advantage this newer ARC 170 has over the 2010 version was is that it's not made with the infamous brittle dark red bricks. I recently rebuilt my 2010 one and the dark red hinge pieces that give the nose its triangular shape just absolutely disintegrate on me. So that's one thing I'll give this set a +1 for.
this set needs heavy modifications to make it look decent sadly. The clone pilots are great but the ship ... Idk. Worst things are the atrocious bottom side (like wtf) and of course the stickerec cockpits (a no go) If I buy the set rventually on discount those stickers will stay of. Sadly that makes it look even worse but applying stickers to windshields is torture and always ends up badly.
I'm so glad you addressed the cannons! I don't own any of the older ARC 170 sets but that was the first thing I noticed was how TINY they were! I totally agree that the whole set is "half baked". Perfectly said!
They still use round stickers on round pieces. For example, the D&D set (one of my fav sets this year to my surprise) had a round pub sign with a sticker. I hate them because they are so much harder to get centered. Also, I disagree that this should have been a combo set. The combo sets are awful. Most of the time people only want one of the ships in them but they have to pay extra and get both. The recent Fang Fighter vs Tie Interceptor is a great example. I wanted the tie interceptor, but I had to pay $20-$30 more so they could include a terribly designed extra ship that I didn't want. Leave them separate.
I think I'll wait until I get this on sale. One thing I'll just barely give this set a pass on is that this scene was also seen at the very beginning of the Siege of Mandalore arc in TCW season 7.
Lego: releases very good clone trooper at today's standarts, with no flaws Fans: oH nO, wHeRe DuAl MoLd On LeGs Guess if they had dual molded legs fans would complain about lack of arm printing lmao
I've never owned a lego arc 170 and always wanted to, but I've decided that unless I can find this one on clearance or a really great discount (mostly for the figures), I'm not gonna buy it. It evokes the same feelings as the 2020 (I think?) Tie fighter. Too small and the shaping of the engines, the most prominent feature, just ain't it
So I’ve been working on rebuilding my 2010 ARC. Found it in an old box of legos at my parents place. When the set was announced, I paused my rebuild in hopes that this set would be better. Suffice to say, it’s time to continue my rebuild. I’m cool with smaller, denser sets, but you gotta get the proportions right.
I don't think that the mechanism of the side wings is an upgrade because that instant opening isn't realistic. In the movies it opens kinda slowly it was better without the instant opening in my opinion
Make Lego great again! This should be the new we want a 501st battle pack saying. It’s honestly so disappointing how much Lego has stopped caring and how much they’ve recessed since the golden age
I don't like the price of the set but I will be picking the set up because of the specific characters It's a great set , but it's ten dollars more than it should be
Thanks so much for this review I'm pretty torn up about adding this set to my collection I'm always looking for cool figs and sets but this set is a serious let down. Definitely getting the new Plo Koon Starfighter next year though.
Obviously the Lan members already made a review odmf this days ago, but wow is it inoressive that you consistently get these so early. (Im not trying to "Brick ride" here, its genuinely surprises me every time)
Aside from the scale, it turned out pretty good, but damn, I really wish it was a little bit bigger. Anyways I won't complain much, as Lego has already crushed my expectations much more than this in others sets in the recent past.
The amount of stickers is absurd. If they're gonna raise the prices why can't they at least print a few pieces 😡 they're taxing us anyway they possibly can at this point 😂
Despite other people getting their grimy hands on sets earlier than you, I just wait until your review to see. The other people just seem so non-diligent in their reviews. Thanks for the good content
The old ucs Lego Starwars sets are already over $1000 in value even after retirement but unfortunately afols seem to justify those high prices and those old sets ucs or not again just dont hold up very well .
I have no Arc 170s so I'll end up getting 1 or 2 of them. NOT for full price though. Definitely a bit disappointed with the build being a bit to small though
Part of me feels like it would be really cool to put two of these together and make a moc, extending the wings, cannons, and front and potentially filling in the gaps. Idk just seems like a potentially interesting idea.
$70 Star fighter with 4 mini figures is nice to have again. But for this set $60 would’ve been a nice price and hopefully it’s that price in a few months especially with the sticker element and unfinished bottom section.
Seems like the best option for those who don’t have one is to wait for a sale and buy the pieces for the larger guns from past models. Would look acceptable at that point.
Seeing it built, I actually like it more and think this could be a new MOC project. Buying it for the skeleton and then improving the details, especially the weird chin and the secondary wings, and lengthening the body so the astromech has four studs for itself without having to share them with the pilots. Maybe ordering four extra parts of those rounded ones behind the front cockpit.
2:10 The clone pilots torsos are actually ever so slightly different. If you look at the middle one with blue helmet compared to the others you'll notice that one of the buttons/light/whatever they are is down instead of up like the other two torsos!
I got the 2010 Arc-170 from a buddy because I was worried how disproportionate the 2025 model would be. If I get this new Arc-170 I don’t think I’ll even build it, just use the new pieces to upgrade the old 2010. Has anyone else noticed that Jedi Starfighters are getting bigger as every other ship is getting smaller?
I look forward to getting this set! I actually plan to combine the best of the 2025 and the 2010 ARC. Praise to no longer have to use the old turner for the S-foils!
I think not having a jedi minifigure in this set makes it easier in a sense to buy multiple of them to make a fleet as it means you don't have 5 or so kit fistos or plo koons, and sure there are named clones, they're still clones so identical and other than the helmets there's nothing unique about them so you can easily build an army of clone pilots.
While I do like the size and details of the older ones, I’m looking forward to the stability of this and the new wing mechanism. I’m afraid to touch my OG 170 because it falls apart if you even look at it the wrong way. Stickers are a massive L, however…
There is some minor detail change on the torso of the pilot. On the chest boxes, on the right hand side there are 4 dots (possibly representing lights) the position of the 2nd from the left changes. Nice minifigs btw
As someone who has just started collecting legos, is there an actual formal reason Lego is making these designs so much more compact versus older models? Is it for comoact shelf storage, money, screwing customer, cutting corners?
I couldn’t care less about having a Jedi. It’s a Clone set, with enough Clones to fill the set perfectly. The stickers are unfortunate, but it’s really not that bod of a deal. They’re making a toy for kids to play with here, which it does very well. You have the s-foils, spring loaded shooters for kids to shoot, and plenty of minifig space for kids to use I think it’s pretty hilarious that we’re complaining about accuracy here. It adequately represents the ARC-170 for long time fans, and incorporates play features for kids. Simple as that. I know I will buy it, I don’t think $70 is really that bad tbf At the end of the day you have the right to have an opinion, but I think the MAJORITY for your arguments here are irrelevant
Definitely not, for the price most of the stuff listed should definitely be included for how their prices are basically scams now And what? Accuracy is the whole point given it’s representing something else and once again for the price. Also Lego definitely is not a kids product any more, not majority anyway given how most of the community who actually buy them are older
Im not gonna nitpick over the 332nd clone on the box because it shows that the arc-170 is a clone wars set since every clone wars set that's been out with the new box art has shown a 332nd clone on it for it being set in the clone wars
@MandRproductions yes ROTS is the Tail End of the Clone Wars but every set that's shown up recently with a 332nd clone on the box has to do with the prequels mainly Episode 3 era with the phase two clone armor
I literally was so excited for these sets because I’m a huge ROTS fan but just seeing these awful sets/prices as a casual LEGO collector ,meaning I will only buy the sets I think are worth it not ALL sets, I just can’t buy this set it looks ugly , literally the worst ARC-170 compared to the previous ones
5:54 the size isn't really that big of a problem imo, besides the guns i think the proportions look more accurate to how the ship looks in revenge of the sith. Like it's not perfect but the older ones have way worse proportions in relation to how it actually looks in the movie.
The markings on their chests are slightly different Ryan. The 3 black and 1 red dot section. One has the red dot “down” and the other 2 have the red dots “up”. Assuming the unique one is Odd Ball…can see it @1:54 on the middle pilot. Very subtle
I was considering buying a couple of these even with its small flaws, but the stickers for the canopies is a definite deal breaker for me. I'm an older dude and my hands are not so steady. Besides, Lego makes enough profit to add printed canopies.
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Wow midi scales are getting mini figures now?!?!? That’s so dope
Lmaooooo
Might as well have gotten a microfighter instead. It'd match Plo Koon's starfighter (unfortunately) and we get the minifigures for way cheaper. And paying the difference to build your own full scale MOC would probably be cheaper anyway
real
This isn’t a midi scale set
@@Lady_Amelia-Eloise that´s the joke...
I will never understand how changing the cover of the manual to a terrible render of the set helps the environment
It doesn’t, it saves their pockets.
People somehow defend it but they look atrocious.
I dont care about that. I care about the buld and this build fucking sucks 😂. Thats why I only buy 18+ sets because the play sets are just to downsized and dumbed down these days.
Less ink?
@@ResidentMC117they still fully print the instructions, so the same amount of ink is used.
What it really saves is money. They save themselves money by not paying an artist.
@@octobotimusnot even that. The cover was in almost every case just the box cover art copy pasted.
I didn’t realize that the white cockpit stickers were not always bad. Insane that they could do it right in 2010 and don’t even bother to care now. Ugh
Yupppppp
I just realized, we either get good clone troopers and a bad build, or bad clone troopers but a great build. There’s no in between
lol yep. Sadly the current gunship is both
Except for the ATTE, good clones and great build
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I completely disagree.
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Watching MandRproductions in my bed instead:✅
@@h4ogaming492 go and study business once you get to university lol
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My jaw dropped when you showed the bottom. That looks like a design LEGO would do a long time ago (in a galaxy...). How did they design the wing mechanism so well, but have the bottom be so loosely connected. I have the 2nd version of the ARC 170, but I'm still torn whether I want this or not.
Yeah not even some inverted tiles there. They always use them!
To be fair, the ARC-170 has a really weird and flat bottom there. Not exactly like in the model, but still. The part that ruins it is more the gap for the extended studs of the lever mechanism.
@@Matt..S It really feels like they just forgot to put a row of bricks there. If Ryan hadn't said anything, I would have thought that he build it wrong.
@sandwich4763 savage haha
lego designers probably thought: "people have been waiting on this set for 15 years, let's not care about the price, the downsize, the stickers, the awful details, they will buy it anyways"
They're laughing all the way to the bank.
My first thought too.
probably
Its cheeper than the last one.
Couldn’t have been said better honestly
The stickered windshield pieces are so disappointing. for a set that's so small and also $70 is such an unfortunate thing. Especially as they continue to portray it as printed on the box.
It’s fine, when I screw up the stickers multiple times, I’ll just contact LEGO for replacements continuously.
Bro, you're my favorite LEGO TH-camr! Your content is super high-quality and awesome. Keep up the great work!
Lego Star wars trying not to disappoint challenge: impossible
Why do adults get annoyed with kids toys?
@@PrecursorOrb1 Because these are NOT kid's toys. Bro. Wake up--half the Lego buyers are adults . . .
@PrecursorOrb1 are you really telling me these Star Wars prices are prices kids can afford!?
The skiff was 80 dollars, sith infiltrator was 80, this arc 170 is 70, the coruscaunt gunship is 140, At-te is 140.
The only way you can make this argument is if you find people complaining about battle packs, 4+ sets, or mechs but even then Kid sets shouldn't be terrible just because its "for kids."
@@PrecursorOrb1 this comment is so stupid i´m gonna guess and say it´s bait
@@adamosborne3765 it’s a toy, kids use their greatest of imagination to manifest their play. Adults take this waaay too seriously and just complain. Adults buy it because they want their kids to just have fun.
As more details are added, the average price size is significantly smaller. Price by piece is outdated. Price by weight is how we should calculate value.
Agreed. You should say it in AskMANDR video
I agree with this as well
I will try, but I wouldn’t mind someone else bringing it to his attention either
It doesn’t matter how you quantify the value for this set, $70 is too high.
@@MandRproductions
It does, and no it isn't
Hi MandR!
Not related to the 75402, but I turned the Fang Fighter and TIE Interceptor set into an Imperial Bunker, Mini Fang Fighter and Spider Tank.
The functions are:
Bunker:
- opening front door
- interior
- removable roof for play
- cannon with 2 spring loaded shooters
- cannon can rotate 360 degrees and move up and down
- cannon has space for 1 figure
Fang Fighter:
- space for 1 figure
- 2 spring loaded shooters on the bottom
Spider Tank:
- moving legs
- space for 1 figure
Sick!
Yes indeed!
Price is unjustifiably expensive period.
Not for the value we’re receiving.
16 stickers??? Mega sets for a quarter the price have 100+ printed pieces… Lego can absolutely stop doing stickers and still make money so it’s kinda a ridiculous idea that it costs too much to print every piece.
No back printing on astrmechs is ridiculous and a loss Lego needs to fix.
Dual molded legs should’ve been a requirement
Size is too small across the board.
This would be an ok $45 set…. However it’s a $75 set
Absolutely! Mega has been doing way better things then Lego as of late
Agreed with you there way to over priced with not enough value
For sure one of the most overpriced sets ive seen this and Ahsokas interceptor
@@awesomejeeps9856 yeah Lego wouldn’t even dream of doing a continuous print across multiple pieces 🤣
@@JasonJarrett-l3o that was even more overpriced then this
As someone who isn’t a purist LEGO set collector, a lot of the proportional issues with this build seem easy enough to amend with some extra pieces. However, the stickers are truly tragic.
Speed Champions once suffered from a similar issue, however, their printed screen pieces were improved, so why not the same treatment with Star Wars???
I'll fix the cannons myself. I can live with everything else
I agree but those issues means paying full price is unreasonable.
They do it because they know people will buy it anyway with Star Wars
Strong agree about the modding. This set just looks like an overpriced somewhat fine base of improvement for more pieces to be used to extend its lenght, width and some replacement touches like the cockpit glass. It sounds terrible because it is, like spending 70$ and then having more pieces every single time to fix it? Nahh, better off on clearance and then try the changes if someone is REALLY motivated for it (which talking about army building... It feels annoying)
Because speed champs actually cares about the community and quality sad how sw sets only goal is to milk the fans
Hate to say it but lego has orchestrated this perfectly. Hate the price (they casually add around the equivalent of 5$ in our currency since the only lego store in the country has this sort of chokehold on the lego market here) , not a fan of the general downscale (but can live with it i guess), but have never owned an arc-170. They kinda force our hands here since yes, I could wait for them to release ANOTHER one but God knows how that will look, how high the price will be at that point and when that will happen again. Hard to tell when they will bring this set on sale in my country so its either full price or bust :/
I feel the same here. I'll pay at least 5 euros extra and theres not gonna be a sale AND the build sucks? Fuck no
You'll be fine without it.
MandR upload on my birthday? What a great present!
Happy birthday!
@ thank you!
I wish i didn't feel like I had to mod every lego starwars set i buy now to make it look half decent...especially for 70$
its a playset, and althought the prices are absurd thats why you get to decide what you pay for.
This is something I have been doing far more frequently lately, it's really sad on Lego's part they can't be bothered to go that extra step, that I have to go out and make changes myself.
“We were on the verge of greatness. We were this close 🤏🏻.”
- Director Krennic
Favorite SW character for sure.
Bro 90% of the time my instructions are bent or curved. And it makes me kinda mad that Lego can't do something about it
@5:39 That indentation in the back is actually correct to the source material, it's probably just a little too exaggerated in LEGO form.
A slight indentation =/= a gaping hole.
Hearing the statement at 1:15 after watching Jang’s video is crazy
That video was so based lmao
which video?
nvm just peeped the vid. insanely based jang really been the lego goat fr
What video was it?
@@jeremyjuggler2677 “lego’s great paper bag half-truth”. it was posted on his jangbricks channel 9 days ago
Can’t include waist capes because kids have to take them off in order to get them to sit, but yet it’s perfectly fine to limit the size when a kid would have to take the pilots out/adjust them to get the astromech to fit. Make it make sense.
One of the better modern clone sets as in overall package, but still 25% too small of a build
the only upside of the set is that the engines look kinda clean.
edit: WHY TF IS THE BOTTOM SO SQUARE AND FLAT?????
I'd say one BIG advantage this newer ARC 170 has over the 2010 version was is that it's not made with the infamous brittle dark red bricks. I recently rebuilt my 2010 one and the dark red hinge pieces that give the nose its triangular shape just absolutely disintegrate on me. So that's one thing I'll give this set a +1 for.
Anyone else upset this wasn't the UCS set of 2025 :/
this set needs heavy modifications to make it look decent sadly. The clone pilots are great but the ship ... Idk. Worst things are the atrocious bottom side (like wtf) and of course the stickerec cockpits (a no go) If I buy the set rventually on discount those stickers will stay of. Sadly that makes it look even worse but applying stickers to windshields is torture and always ends up badly.
Combo would’ve been perfect and almost justified the reduction in size. Great review.
Love the review Ryan
I'm so glad you addressed the cannons! I don't own any of the older ARC 170 sets but that was the first thing I noticed was how TINY they were! I totally agree that the whole set is "half baked". Perfectly said!
They still use round stickers on round pieces. For example, the D&D set (one of my fav sets this year to my surprise) had a round pub sign with a sticker. I hate them because they are so much harder to get centered. Also, I disagree that this should have been a combo set. The combo sets are awful. Most of the time people only want one of the ships in them but they have to pay extra and get both. The recent Fang Fighter vs Tie Interceptor is a great example. I wanted the tie interceptor, but I had to pay $20-$30 more so they could include a terribly designed extra ship that I didn't want. Leave them separate.
I think I'll wait until I get this on sale. One thing I'll just barely give this set a pass on is that this scene was also seen at the very beginning of the Siege of Mandalore arc in TCW season 7.
I Think This LEGO Star Wars ARC-170 Starfighter Is Glorius!
So glad I wasn't caught up in the hype for this one so won't hurt me to pass on it
disappointed in ways but damn we got an ARC-170 after 15 years 🤷♂️ i’ll take it lol
Yeah that's how I think most people view a lot of what we end up with. It's unfortunate but there's not really another option.
I’ll be going with pixeldan’s modification for this
I won't take it. I don't settle with a crappy product, even at a discount of 20% when it does go on sale
@@MandRproductionswhatever happened to “only the best is good enough”?
tHeY jUsT dOn’T cArE!
Terrible cockpit stickers for that price is super disappointing
Super excited for this, want it for my 16th bday
"Consider the enviornment *saved* " 1:15 😂
Lego: releases very good clone trooper at today's standarts, with no flaws
Fans: oH nO, wHeRe DuAl MoLd On LeGs
Guess if they had dual molded legs fans would complain about lack of arm printing lmao
For real
it’s kinda pathetic how unhappy so many people are about this, but i don’t feel sympathy since they’ll buy the set anyway
Fuck them minfig quality is okey but that build is just shit bro straight dissapointing
I am just happy you were very critical about this set! Because you didn’t criticise the Gunship 2023 as much and they both have the same problems….
I feel like the designer started at the front working his way back and once the first cockpit was designed they told him the budget and piece count
I've never owned a lego arc 170 and always wanted to, but I've decided that unless I can find this one on clearance or a really great discount (mostly for the figures), I'm not gonna buy it. It evokes the same feelings as the 2020 (I think?) Tie fighter. Too small and the shaping of the engines, the most prominent feature, just ain't it
So I’ve been working on rebuilding my 2010 ARC. Found it in an old box of legos at my parents place. When the set was announced, I paused my rebuild in hopes that this set would be better. Suffice to say, it’s time to continue my rebuild.
I’m cool with smaller, denser sets, but you gotta get the proportions right.
I don't think that the mechanism of the side wings is an upgrade because that instant opening isn't realistic. In the movies it opens kinda slowly it was better without the instant opening in my opinion
Make Lego great again! This should be the new we want a 501st battle pack saying. It’s honestly so disappointing how much Lego has stopped caring and how much they’ve recessed since the golden age
I don't like the price of the set but I will be picking the set up because of the specific characters It's a great set , but it's ten dollars more than it should be
“Consider the environment saved”😂😂😂
Thanks so much for this review I'm pretty torn up about adding this set to my collection I'm always looking for cool figs and sets but this set is a serious let down. Definitely getting the new Plo Koon Starfighter next year though.
Lego prices are just ridiculous at this point
5:11 "it's evolving, just backwards"
Obviously the Lan members already made a review odmf this days ago, but wow is it inoressive that you consistently get these so early. (Im not trying to "Brick ride" here, its genuinely surprises me every time)
Shame after 15 years of waiting for this set I’m just gonna end up building my own custom version, IM TIRED OF THE DOWN SIZING LEGO 😡
Aside from the scale, it turned out pretty good, but damn, I really wish it was a little bit bigger. Anyways I won't complain much, as Lego has already crushed my expectations much more than this in others sets in the recent past.
Bro $70 and we get that sticker sheet and yeah, I agree with you. They definitely should’ve thrown Jedi.
Too bad they didn’t give the clone troopers helmet holes, I wanted to give them accessories
Hopefully in the next couple years we get a arc 170 with 170 pcs for 100 bucks
If I had to unsubscribe from all of TH-cam except for 1 channel.. I’d choose this one. Best on TH-cam brother.
Amazing quality video, as always
The amount of stickers is absurd. If they're gonna raise the prices why can't they at least print a few pieces 😡 they're taxing us anyway they possibly can at this point 😂
Tbh I really like this smaller scale. the cannons from the previous model on this makes a world of difference
Despite other people getting their grimy hands on sets earlier than you, I just wait until your review to see. The other people just seem so non-diligent in their reviews. Thanks for the good content
The old ucs Lego Starwars sets are already over $1000 in value even after retirement but unfortunately afols seem to justify those high prices and those old sets ucs or not again just dont hold up very well .
I had high hopes for 2025 and the more time goes by, the less I care about next year releases. Other than the Slave 1 they’re all disappointing
Despite all the flaws, I still really like this set. Definitely picking it up day 1.
Damn messed up how the 2010 did the windscreen Sticker better then the new one
Glad that I still got the Plo Koon Starfighter and the former Arc 170
I have no Arc 170s so I'll end up getting 1 or 2 of them. NOT for full price though. Definitely a bit disappointed with the build being a bit to small though
While I own the 2010 version I’ll still buy this just cause it’s been 15 freaking years!
Part of me feels like it would be really cool to put two of these together and make a moc, extending the wings, cannons, and front and potentially filling in the gaps. Idk just seems like a potentially interesting idea.
$70 Star fighter with 4 mini figures is nice to have again. But for this set $60 would’ve been a nice price and hopefully it’s that price in a few months especially with the sticker element and unfinished bottom section.
Seems like the best option for those who don’t have one is to wait for a sale and buy the pieces for the larger guns from past models. Would look acceptable at that point.
Seeing it built, I actually like it more and think this could be a new MOC project. Buying it for the skeleton and then improving the details, especially the weird chin and the secondary wings, and lengthening the body so the astromech has four studs for itself without having to share them with the pilots. Maybe ordering four extra parts of those rounded ones behind the front cockpit.
I think Lego for sure dropped the ball on this unfortunately. The shrinkflation and Inaccuracies are killing me man.
Dont forget good ol' regular inflation of 10 buckerinos!
Man, I got to become a member so I can watch videos 12 hours early
2:10 The clone pilots torsos are actually ever so slightly different. If you look at the middle one with blue helmet compared to the others you'll notice that one of the buttons/light/whatever they are is down instead of up like the other two torsos!
I got the 2010 Arc-170 from a buddy because I was worried how disproportionate the 2025 model would be. If I get this new Arc-170 I don’t think I’ll even build it, just use the new pieces to upgrade the old 2010. Has anyone else noticed that Jedi Starfighters are getting bigger as every other ship is getting smaller?
11:36 “wtf y’all doing y’all RATIONING round here cmon COOK me up” 😂😂😂
I look forward to getting this set! I actually plan to combine the best of the 2025 and the 2010 ARC. Praise to no longer have to use the old turner for the S-foils!
I think not having a jedi minifigure in this set makes it easier in a sense to buy multiple of them to make a fleet as it means you don't have 5 or so kit fistos or plo koons, and sure there are named clones, they're still clones so identical and other than the helmets there's nothing unique about them so you can easily build an army of clone pilots.
While I do like the size and details of the older ones, I’m looking forward to the stability of this and the new wing mechanism.
I’m afraid to touch my OG 170 because it falls apart if you even look at it the wrong way.
Stickers are a massive L, however…
Nailed it on the cannons. It looks much better with the OG cannons swapped in.
There is some minor detail change on the torso of the pilot. On the chest boxes, on the right hand side there are 4 dots (possibly representing lights) the position of the 2nd from the left changes.
Nice minifigs btw
As someone who has just started collecting legos, is there an actual formal reason Lego is making these designs so much more compact versus older models? Is it for comoact shelf storage, money, screwing customer, cutting corners?
Great review actually 10/10 no glaze
With all the cons, I'm just super happy that we have another ARC-170 instead another X-wing or Tie. I'm gonna have some fun time modifying this set.
I love that you say what you think Sir.
I knew Ryan was chill Ike that
I have an MandR review to look forward to when I get home 😁
I couldn’t care less about having a Jedi. It’s a Clone set, with enough Clones to fill the set perfectly.
The stickers are unfortunate, but it’s really not that bod of a deal.
They’re making a toy for kids to play with here, which it does very well. You have the s-foils, spring loaded shooters for kids to shoot, and plenty of minifig space for kids to use
I think it’s pretty hilarious that we’re complaining about accuracy here. It adequately represents the ARC-170 for long time fans, and incorporates play features for kids. Simple as that.
I know I will buy it, I don’t think $70 is really that bad tbf
At the end of the day you have the right to have an opinion, but I think the MAJORITY for your arguments here are irrelevant
I disagree quite a bit. The old sets were also “kids toys” and far more accurate.
Definitely not, for the price most of the stuff listed should definitely be included for how their prices are basically scams now
And what? Accuracy is the whole point given it’s representing something else and once again for the price. Also Lego definitely is not a kids product any more, not majority anyway given how most of the community who actually buy them are older
Best in terms applying stickers, is using tweezers.
My money goes to quality lego. If I wanted a bad set I’d create my own ships.
Im not gonna nitpick over the 332nd clone on the box because it shows that the arc-170 is a clone wars set since every clone wars set that's been out with the new box art has shown a 332nd clone on it for it being set in the clone wars
This is a ROTS set, not TCW! If you don’t care about it, you don’t care about it. It’s not a big deal but just gotta get the facts straight.
@MandRproductions yes ROTS is the Tail End of the Clone Wars but every set that's shown up recently with a 332nd clone on the box has to do with the prequels mainly Episode 3 era with the phase two clone armor
Hey I think the print on the one clone chest piece is actually different. Its the one red dot
It’s not supposed to be it was just a bad print. The box shows them all the same.
I have to admit it, I loved this at first, now I’m unsure 😂😂😂
the only thing that would make the figures better, besides de dual molding, would be the visors being in the helmet instead of being printed
I literally was so excited for these sets because I’m a huge ROTS fan but just seeing these awful sets/prices as a casual LEGO collector ,meaning I will only buy the sets I think are worth it not ALL sets, I just can’t buy this set it looks ugly , literally the worst ARC-170 compared to the previous ones
5:54 the size isn't really that big of a problem imo, besides the guns i think the proportions look more accurate to how the ship looks in revenge of the sith. Like it's not perfect but the older ones have way worse proportions in relation to how it actually looks in the movie.
Ryan PLEASE give us a upgrade video for this video like with the newest gunship
The markings on their chests are slightly different Ryan. The 3 black and 1 red dot section. One has the red dot “down” and the other 2 have the red dots “up”. Assuming the unique one is Odd Ball…can see it @1:54 on the middle pilot. Very subtle
It’s just the printer being off. They’re supposed to be identical per the box.
Interesting
@@MandRproductions do you really trust what is shown on the box art??
Evil MandR be like: I love big sticker sheets😈
I was considering buying a couple of these even with its small flaws, but the stickers for the canopies is a definite deal breaker for me. I'm an older dude and my hands are not so steady. Besides, Lego makes enough profit to add printed canopies.