dude this is freeeeking brilliant! I love that scale feature in Ableton.. wish it was more simple/native than this hack but this is good reguardless. Thank You
@@JakeMasca I submitted a feature request through Apple’s website. Don’t know how closely they monitor those suggestions, but thought it might be helpful.
One solution I've found for around avoiding to use the Shift + Click issue or the copy/paste issue is to instead use a Track Stack. Your Track Stack can have your instruments in it, then your Dummy Clip should be on the Track Stack Layer. This way, you can do the composition of the MIDI directly in the dummy clip itself. The advantage here is that when you put MIDI clips on a Track Stack layer, it triggers all the instruments inside of the Track Stack, which you can then mute/solo each instrument you want to use while keeping the same MIDI clip.
I started beta testing live 12 because of its new generative piano roll editing features. I’ve switched from logic because they haven’t addressed scale highlighting and folding without these workarounds.
This is truly genius, an incredibly smart way to use the features Logic DOES have to make up for the feature it SHOULD have. I honestly bought (and refunded) Captain Plugins purely so I could easily write melodies and chord progressions in the DAW. This hack might be a little janky but it genuinely makes composing so much easier for someone who doesnt play piano.
I was looking for something like this a year ago and I could not find something that got rid of the "ghost notes". I also didn't have the collapse feature set up. This work around will help heavily. Thank you!
you could do all this on the main midi track without a dummy. Just mute the notes and move them to the side of the region like you did to your dummy (but on the main track)
Seriously let's start a petition to force Logic to do it like how Ableton does. You can pick and even make scales in the step sequencer but can't in the piano roll? And it's called Logic yet misses some.
This is sick, but is there a way to have a scale lock for the actual midi playing instead of drawing it in. Id like to lock it to a scale and do random arp/melody playing in the minor pentatonic scale. Cheers and thanks!
I'm not sure if there's a free option - there must be, somewhere - but I use Scaler 2 which is relatively cheap as far as plugins go, and has a bunch of other cool features too. And it allows you to match the scale to the white keys of piano like you said. The closest thing I've found to that in Logic is to write something in C major (all white keys) and transpose it up or down however many semitones to put it in the right key. Doesn't work for minor or fancy scales though.
It will work for the minor scale. if you start on the 6th scale note of the Relative major scale to the Minor scale you want to play. So if you are in A minor then C major is the Relative Major scale so just transpose to whatever Major scale you want then begin playing on the 6th diatonic note A making that the home root note@@Jewpacca
Not really the same thing. This method offers the advantage of being able to easily visualise the intervals in between chord notes, so that for instance a triad always has the one on, on off shape. Using the transposer has other advantages, of course, but it's not really the same as this technique.
Hey mate, all you need to do, instead of a dummy clip... drag ur project start from 1 bar, to -1 bar.. and then collapse.. it wont play notes that arent at 1bar and above.
@@harshpatel105 ive found a new way, you just use the glue tool and set your project key to the proper key, the scale in the piano roll and use the glue tool. you can fill every key in, collapse and bingo.
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dude this is freeeeking brilliant! I love that scale feature in Ableton.. wish it was more simple/native than this hack but this is good reguardless. Thank You
We should send apple a feature request!
Why is this NOT already a feature in Logic Pro? It is in KORG Gadget, and many, many iOS apps.
Agreed. It’s quite frustrating that this isn’t a feature available. It seems….. so obvious that it should be included.
@@JakeMasca I submitted a feature request through Apple’s website. Don’t know how closely they monitor those suggestions, but thought it might be helpful.
@@seangarland ... a year on from your comment and still no sign of this oft-requested feature so thought I'd follow your lead :)
I would love this features in logic. Come on Apple. I need to ditch Ableton
@@JakeMasca logic remote for iPad have it wtf???? why is not in Logic? D:
One solution I've found for around avoiding to use the Shift + Click issue or the copy/paste issue is to instead use a Track Stack. Your Track Stack can have your instruments in it, then your Dummy Clip should be on the Track Stack Layer. This way, you can do the composition of the MIDI directly in the dummy clip itself. The advantage here is that when you put MIDI clips on a Track Stack layer, it triggers all the instruments inside of the Track Stack, which you can then mute/solo each instrument you want to use while keeping the same MIDI clip.
Thanks Jake u just eased half of my stress!
You are the absolute king of streamlining Logic, absolutly amazing
Glad you find these videos helpful and I appreciate your very generous compliment. Thank you
Really in depth, thank you for going through all this and putting the video together.
I started beta testing live 12 because of its new generative piano roll editing features. I’ve switched from logic because they haven’t addressed scale highlighting and folding without these workarounds.
This is truly genius, an incredibly smart way to use the features Logic DOES have to make up for the feature it SHOULD have. I honestly bought (and refunded) Captain Plugins purely so I could easily write melodies and chord progressions in the DAW. This hack might be a little janky but it genuinely makes composing so much easier for someone who doesnt play piano.
I was looking for something like this a year ago and I could not find something that got rid of the "ghost notes". I also didn't have the collapse feature set up. This work around will help heavily. Thank you!
Logic still doesn’t care what we need.
you could do all this on the main midi track without a dummy. Just mute the notes and move them to the side of the region like you did to your dummy (but on the main track)
absolut fantastic workaround to get this very useful feature, thanks a lot
Hello.Do you know If there any midi plugin so it can lock the piano keys in real time? many thanks for the video! :)
I always searched this ghost 👻 notes feature in logic,thank you for the amazing video
Does Ableton have a bright piano roll option as opposed to the impossible black on black.
cant wait to be able to try this on ipad when logic drops on 23rd may
Thanks for the hack Jake. JAKE MASCA FOR PRESIDENT!
I can't believe Logic doesn't have this .. what the hell? 😂
If you switch to the brush tool you’ll only be able to select notes in scale
I was "still staying at this point" 😆
So slept on
Seriously let's start a petition to force Logic to do it like how Ableton does. You can pick and even make scales in the step sequencer but can't in the piano roll? And it's called Logic yet misses some.
Mad knowledge thanks for sharing man!!
Appreciate this. Thanks
It's not a feature in Logic already? You have a scale mode in Garageband since way back
This is sick, but is there a way to have a scale lock for the actual midi playing instead of drawing it in. Id like to lock it to a scale and do random arp/melody playing in the minor pentatonic scale. Cheers and thanks!
I'm not sure if there's a free option - there must be, somewhere - but I use Scaler 2 which is relatively cheap as far as plugins go, and has a bunch of other cool features too. And it allows you to match the scale to the white keys of piano like you said.
The closest thing I've found to that in Logic is to write something in C major (all white keys) and transpose it up or down however many semitones to put it in the right key. Doesn't work for minor or fancy scales though.
Just came back to say the "Transposer" midi tool in Logic can do this for you. I never noticed it before.
the arp itself also has a lock scale feature. just open the arp and click the keyboard tab.
It will work for the minor scale. if you start on the 6th scale note of the Relative major scale to the Minor scale you want to play. So if you are in A minor then C major is the Relative Major scale so just transpose to whatever Major scale you want then begin playing on the 6th diatonic note A making that the home root note@@Jewpacca
THANK YOU SIR!!!
Super helpful!! 🙏
I can't believe Logic Pro X still can't just do this easily...
seriously lol
edit: does anyone know if fruity loops has this feature?
very good
Or just use the transposer midi effect and be done in seconds?
Not really the same thing. This method offers the advantage of being able to easily visualise the intervals in between chord notes, so that for instance a triad always has the one on, on off shape. Using the transposer has other advantages, of course, but it's not really the same as this technique.
Game changer 🤯
What a nightmare Logic is. How does it not already have a feature like Ableton. Figure it out Logic.
@@0x2049 what is it?
I just turn on scale quantize on all my melody tracks
Hey mate, all you need to do, instead of a dummy clip... drag ur project start from 1 bar, to -1 bar.. and then collapse.. it wont play notes that arent at 1bar and above.
No need for dummy clip.
If I just simplified this.. please let me know.
thanks for this :)
@@harshpatel105 ive found a new way, you just use the glue tool and set your project key to the proper key, the scale in the piano roll and use the glue tool. you can fill every key in, collapse and bingo.
Or Apple could just highlight the fucking scale in the piano roll.
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My pleasure
Wtf to be obligated to add tremendous clips this is idiot ; not needed at all with Live, easy.. Btw thanks
omg way too long..not worth it.
this is helpful but could u make ur videos shorter?
I’ll make sure videos are shorter.
Nice hack awful exapmles
Awful apples?