My New Alloys Upgradation made a hole in my pocket| Be aware!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Brothers!
I recently upgraded Tata alloys, I was so happy for 10 days but one of my tyres gone flat while coming back from Ranthambhore. Lets know why...
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I upgraded my tyres in Honda Brio from MRF 175/65 R14 to Continental CC5 185/60 R15 and it was more than 3.2 % increase. It screwed my Suspension like anything, also the steering become harder. After nearly running for 32 k kms. I swittched back to 14" Tyres, Yokohama Earth 1 185/65 R14 and what a difference now. I enjoy the smooth ride everyday. Although will have to tune the suspension now for the damage done.
Yes its really common that when people get alloys they are usually a bigger size than the normal rim ones even if you buy them from the company like tata gives 195mm on rims and 215 on alloys and many times people don't change the tire and only change the rims and sooner or later it will cause the damage on the tyre's wall and it will break apart.
The best way to identify it is that it will always break the tyres's wall side
Yup very true.
Your genuine concerns are really appreciated, Sir🙏
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Excellent. thank you for sharing this information which most of the car users/dealers really don't know. this will help all of them.
Thanks for confirming Brother 👍
Genuine concern and info,thanks for sharing,even I always feel like changing my car’s wheel to alloy but never dared😄bcz of safety and monitary reasons,u would be suprised to see normal tyres in top variants like i own a zxi celerio has normal wheels,they have better flexibility than rigid alloys
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Yokohama Earth 1 is the best tyre model for an upgrade sir. Even I had the same issue. I own a Tata Tiago XZ+. The day I took the delivery of my Tata Tiago in 2019, while driving from showroom towards my home, my front right stock tyre's sidewall got damaged with a hit of a small stone on the road. When I claimed for it from the company, both tata and goodyear denied for a replacement due to physical damage issue. Then, immediately the next day after a lot of research, I got my remaining 3 tyres exchanged with 4 Yokohama Earth 1 at a very good price. And now I am having an amazing experience with those tyres since 2 years. I have driven my car on worst roads as well as on highways with fully loaded 5 people and full luggage. I have never got any issues with these tyres and covered around 25,000 kms with them. Even the puncture holds for hundreds of kms. These tyres have never gone flat until now by god's grace. I am happy that you chose the best tyre model available in the market. Both dry and wet grip with these tyres is best in class, they provide very good high speed stability as well. Best of luck sir, and go places with it. I am sure these tyres will never let you down. :-)
After watching your entire video, can safely say that there are just 2 possible scenarios why your tyre went bust
1. You drove through that pit pretty hard that resulted in sidewall crack. This is the 99 percent probable reason
2. Tyre specs not suiting the alloy wheel specs. Can happen but will not happen under changes that are so slight like 195 causing problem and 205 width solving it. Please go back to your alloys and check its specs. They should read something like for example 6.5J x 16 etc. Then you can easily cross verify on the internet the tyre range that will easily fit on this alloy spec. In all probabilities 195 sections would turn out to be the ideal size.
So, the real reason is not bad tyre or bad alloy or misfit but the major impact.
I agree. Given the driving experience shared, I highly think option 1 to be the most probable reason. This is because even if the profile of tyre is only 195 even after fitting alloys, it should have been okay for driving on normal roads. But extreme off-roading will put additional stress on such relatively low profile tyre. The profile is company recommended even on alloys but off-roading seems to be extreme.
Yes dear I also purchased nexon on 24th Aug22 and on 23rd August I have replaced my RIM to alloys and loving to drive now
Great 👍
Finally sir ...my nexon delivery friday..
Im very excited...
When you booked?
Congratulations 🎉
@@RidiculouslyAmazing thanxx sir🙏
@@Banarasichora_ dec 10
@@ajinkyagaikwad4695 Lucky. I booked mine on 9th December. No news so far.
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with rim change. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Brother 🙏
SO SAD YOU SUFFERS A HUGE AMOUNT IN TYRES
BUT THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE SO ONE CAN AWARE AND CAREFUL
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I also faced same issue with goodyear on rim wheel, changed to continental 205/60...road noise nearly zero..superb handling...
Thank you buddy. I have upgrade my XMA Petrol from 195 to 215 with 8 spoke alloys. Exchanging the tyres from the showroom itself from your advice. I though will only change alloys but i am sure it will impact 195 tyres some time in future.
For exchange how much you got ?
@@mdrafi88 only got the tyres exchanges . I paid extra 8k for all 4 tyres after exchange. Turanza 215 tyres.
Bro have you done steering calibration according to 215 tyres? If not, ask dealer to do your steering calibration as per 215 profile tyres.
Thanks for sharing it Brother 🙏
Alignment is done but steering calibration is not done. I will contact them ASAP. Thanks Man 🙏
I think even odometer calibration needed..as tyre circumference haa been changed..so it may have little error in calculating kilometers
Is steering calibration free of cost?
Bro this is exactly the fear that I had and I even spoke to u about the same before I took the delivery and the conversation that I had with the dealership.
Yokohama earth tyres i used them when I had my Skoda rapid, as per my experience the tyres are very good in dry road condition but when it comes to wet it gets a little nervous.
Very useful info...this week I am taking delivery of Nexon XMA-S model and planning to add Alloys also. I have heard that XMA-S variant comes with 215 tyres; however not sure on that...then need to change tyres also😭.
No XMS comes with the steel rims having 195/60/16 tyre size
You can check on tyres, xma has 215 tyres
All the amt variants in nexon have 215 tyres i guess
@vaibhav bhai hope you got your vehicle delivered. can you please confirm XMAS gets 215 tyres.
Yokohama is giving full warranty on tires. Good offer. Even giving warranty on side wall damage
Yep 👍
Exactly, alloys needs more maintenance, recently I was parking in a under construction area, and in morning I observed both left side Nexon alloys got scratches and some minor cuts.
It ripped my heart , but what can be done now... Alloys denting painting bhi nahi hote... Bss chl re h wese hi
Exactly!
I have experience with Michelin tyres (on my Alto) that I drove from 2011 to 2019 without a single puncture. Now currently Baleno Alpha, stock Apollo tyres with that I am currently driving since Sept 2019, without a single puncture till today. Both tyres nitrogen filled.
No doubt Yokos r great tyres with respect to Ride comfort, silent ride, but d drawback is the tyre life will be hardly 35K Kms. On my Hyundai Sonata Gold, we had upgraded with 215/55/R16 91V, made in Japan Yokos costing 12.5k for each tyre, i could achieve 215 KMPH speed with those tyres but unfortunately the tyres got bald after around 30k kms itself & started to get punctured frequently. Further i replaced the tyres with Pirelli tyres of 205/60/R16 & the tyres r unbelievably tough, yet d trade of tyres is as good as brand new tyres even after 20k kms done. But the other hand, the problem is now car can't be driven above 180( doesn't feel confident), also d noise is very very high.
215m. size ke alloys me ±10mm ka difference theek hai. But in your case 20mm ka difference aa gaya because of the 195mm tyre. That's why this happened.
yes..
Bridgestone have a long history of unreliable
Alloys are for XZ+ comes with 215 profile, he used 195 tyre on a rim which is used for 215. Nothing wrong with bridgestone. I have been using them since ages.
@@harshitmohansharma4649 I am not talking about this particular incident or Bridgestone's performance in India. I was referring to Bridgestone's tire burst incident.
Dude if at all anything bridgestones are the best compound for rough riding as they are a little hard as compared to Michelin, Yokohama and other brands except Ceat and MRF. Bridgestone only has problem of sound and brittleness in long run. There's nothing like unreliable
It's not bridgestone it's Goodyear which come in freestyle, jo jaldi cut jate hai...
You have shared good information. Very few people know about this.
ThanQ ji, aap ka ye information ne mujhe bacha liya. Main v lagwane wala tha hamari XM me alloy. Natiza eisa hi hota. Ab pehle tyre upgrade karke hi Alloy install karenge.
Useful video, thanks for sharing. I think now with 215/60 R16, you will get full 209 mm ground clearance..with 195/60 R16, it will not be full 209 mm GC, it might be around 195mm approx....not very sure though..please let us know if you find any change in handling due to increased GC...or may be alloys light weight will subside the effect
Ground clearance will be 196.5 mm precisely
Thickness of both tyres is same. How will GC change?
in my alto 2012 model, the first tyre replacement was in 1,27,000 km (Bridgestone - company fitted) though it was used well over its needed replacement(it had cracks along its surface when we took it out for the replacement). now the new tyres are Michelin ones and the odometer reading is around 1,96,000 and the tyres are still in pretty good condition.
The reason for tyre failure is high speed impact and nothing else. It may be possible that there was some damage to the tyre which got aggravated and later failed due to high speed contact with the pothole. As long as the rim diameter and sidewall height is as per company specs, the reduction in width will not make significant difference, that is untill you run a space saving trye. Infact it's the very opposite of your theory. If you have wider tyres than prescribed specs, there is high possibility of sidewall damage if you hit a pothole.
As I know mostly perfect alloy support size tyre hi lagani chahia but Agar alloy wheels ke lia 215 tyre size hogi to max 10 plus-minus rahega to chalega not perfectly but chalega. Matlab 205-215-225 tak max support ho sakte hai.
Alloy wheels ke benefits hai but ye drawback hai ki high strength honeke wajah se wo tyre hi damage kr deta hai, jo ke rim rahegi to rim bend hojati hai.
Dealers and infact tyre vendors never tell this fact - never mis-match tyre size with tyre rim. It will cut tyre profile in pot holes.
This is a very common issue..there r many youtube vedios relating to this..main reason is width is alloys is slightly more thanyhe rim..so even though the tyre fits the side walks of the tyre doesnt comes out which is requ..so any strong impact n ur side walls tear all the time..if u shift to alloys chnge yhe tyre immediately
Aapko new alloys ki bahut bahut badhai...🎉🎊🎉🎊🎊🎉🎊🎉🎉🎊👌👌👌👌👌
I guess Michelin tyres are also good because i am using them for around 1.5 years and my car ran aroung 19k kilometres on those ek bar bhi puncture nahi huwa abhi tak :)
Thanks for sharing 🙏
Yes but they are very costly.
@@candidonthestreetanupamgos5283 costly and also now they have stopped manufacturing car tyres for India
I have been using Michelin in my Skoda Rapid from last 4 years and driven 60K kms and trust me They don't gonna wipe out before 100k km.. such a amazing tyres and My Tiago's apollo tyre got bursted in merely 15k kms
@@anubhavsharma90 yess Apolo tyres are very poor my cars orignal apolo tyre just got burt after just literally just 5900 km I was so fucking sad 😭
If the same issue repeats, You may get your suspension system checked 👍
Sir quantinental is best for OFFROAD instead of Yokohama
sirjee informative!
that's the whole reason why Land Rover Defender comes with steel rims not with alloys.
They come with Alloys as well. :)
@@iamarjun55 yes sir. But steel preferred over alloy for off-road. Alloys are only good in tarmac.
The side foot steps you have, are they original TATA accessory. Did you done ceramic coating on nexon?
Not yet .. I have done roof wrap and side and rear while ceramic wrapped in black with Avery Dennison wrap. Will share the video soon
@@RidiculouslyAmazing any affect on mileage after bigger car installation??
Isliye me alloys nahi lgawata mere Tiago me
Alloys apne aap me itne expensive hai and upar se compatibility issues aa skte hai
Thode se looks ke liye not worth it better get accessories like dash cam etc for that money
Bhai lekin Tiago se bhala kaun Off - roading krne ki sochega🤣🤣🤣
@@gautamgothia1420 ha but point is alloys worth it nahi hai 5-10 lakh ke cars me itna mehenge cheez overpriced lgte hai and itna functionality and looks add nhi krte jitna baki accesories kr skte hai
And aftermarket alloys quality is questionable too
@@mohitkatta3031 Haan 5 - 10L ki cars k liye alloys are not necessary....but for cars above 10L they are must as they greatly enhances the overall appeal of a car
@@gautamgothia1420 agreed
How are the YOKOHAMAs doing in 2022? Have you uploaded a video about it's performance?
I think the problem is with Bridgestone tyres which are available in India...I had also upgraded to alloy wheels but kept my tube tyres on .. so I had 2 JK tyres and new 2 Bridgestone tyres...both of them went through a small pothole...bridgestone developed bulge in it but JK was fine. Bridgestone said it was my fault and charged me 350rs for replacement even though the new tyres were used hardly for 200kms! so avoid bridgestone!
Okay I am confused because what tyre were on back and what were on front?
@@abhijiths7637 at front I had bridgestone and at the back jk
Very good information.. definitely in my case after clocking 10K km the road noise level increased in my Bridgestone tyres.
Thanks for sharing
Very useful to begginer like me.. Danyavad 🙏
I am having really bad experience with Bridgestone tyres. Front Left tyres (including Stepney) got crack within 7.5k. rims are company fitted. But warranty got rejected with same reason.
Thanks for sharing your experience, My warranty was also rejected and So I replaced all 4 to Yokohoma
Good info! Have you noticed any difference in mileage after installing the alloys and new tyres?
Thanks Sir
you shd have updated tyre also or you must have waited 21o suits more on this, still car dont look big like top model..n thanks i was above update alloy now i dont cos coloring steel wheel looks good which is enough, please show us side stepper price and installation..
Very useful information for others. Thanks
My TUV was having CEAT tyres. Recently I was going with my family and suddenly one pit came on road my car was fully loaded & I was driving at a speed of around 70- 75 & my both tyres of left side bursted. Thanks to the solid built of car nothing happened & we all were safe. Then in that situation in middle of road with the help of some people I changed those 2 tyres with near by bridgestone tyres showroom. The bridgstone guy told me that CEAT tyres need daily running otherwise tyre gets hard & they can not take sudden bumps. So daily running is also a major issue in tyre bursting or cutting.
Thanks for the advice really helpful
But I heard the Bridgestone is not very reliable tyre brand what is your take on it
@@abhijiths7637 bridgstone should be preferred by those who has less running of car. As bridgstone tyres are on softer side compared to CEAT.
Howz the response of Yokohama tyres? How many km driven on them? I am also planning to get them and Your genuine feedback will help in buying decision.
The showroom guys still are replacing the steel rims with alloys for XM, XZ variants on demand (after taking ~40k from customer) but retaining the same tyre, I think buyers should watch your video B4 opting for alloys as this will save money
I have driven 25k on stock good year tyres recently I swaped my rear tyres to front and vice versa. Trust me it does work. Gives more smoothness and less road noise.
Its called tyre rotation and must be done every 5k kms... Nothing surprising
Sir nexon xzplus me Summer ke time tyer pressure change krna chahiye kya ? company 30 psi ka bolti hai🤔
Or app tyer pressure kitna rkhte ho ?
I keep 32 generally for city ride and keep 30 on my long travel
off road vehicles use high profile tyres which cannot be used in Alloy rims so steel rims make sense but not due to the light ness of the alloys
Sir would you recommend to upgrade to alloys as I have booked Nexon xms and planning to get alloys in it.
I haven’t changed OEM rims on my Altroz rhythm. Painted the rims matte black and they look OK. Will never go for alloys now.
can you share pics on 7060709765?
Yokohama earth one series tyres are awsome and it gives minimum of 80000km of run without any issues.I have my hyundai xcent and i have driven 3 lakh km ihave changed two times the tyres and driven 1 Lakh km in Yokohama without any issues and 2nd time also it has run around 80000Km and can run around other 20K. I want to tell you that you have chosen one of the best tyres to our road conditions.
Apne ceramic blacked out karwa lia? Nice.
Yes 😀
Used the best wrap, Avery dennison, I will share the source information soon 👍
Goodyears are infact superior to Yokohoma, in similar range models.
The Earth 1 from Yokohoma is good one though.
Michelin & Bridgestone wear out too fast as they're solely for performance.
Apollo & Goodyears are the all rounders.
Great! I am lucky to have goodyear on my brand new nexon
I'm using Goodyear 195 on XM with alloys.. 42k kms done zero problems
@@ravialwayswins Man, the Nexon has such a plush ride. Goodyears are icing on the cake
Hi sumedh..... I am not that familiar with tyres related stuff....... your comment gave a good insight of the tyres.........all i know or used is mrf till now for my two and four wheeler which you have not mentioned in the comment........next time if i upgrade my tyres which one to choose....... should i stick with mrf or which to choose..for a typical indian rural roads with lot of pots and gravels
@@maanooj Goodyears, Apollo and bridgestone.
Pirelli if you've a ferrari or something 😉
Sir I love your very informative videos...
I want to suggest you something... Please check your mic quality or speak a little louder... As because your audio is not as loud as it should be in max volume... Please consider my suggestion . Thank you. You are doing a great job. Good luck
thnx for d info bro. xperience is the best teacher.
This was already advised in one of the videos of skycar ramesh nagar delhi, to change the tyre if going for alloys. Btw... did you get steering control for you nexon..remember you telling that you will get it soon..wanted to understand if changing steering control can impact airbag in any way
Maine bhi is bare me research kiya....bahut si sikayte dekhane ko mila hai...aisa hi..
Agar aap punch ki alloy rim use karte to shayad sab theek rehta..Haan showroom wale generally aisi baat batate nahi..ya vastav mein unhe ye baat pata nahi hoti
True and genuine review sir. Thanks for this video
Dear brother maine bhi apni Tata Nexon XM mein 3 months back Palati company ke alloys lagwaye hain.. No issue with anything. Same tyres hai company wale . Achha chal rahe hain..
The same thing happened with me on My Tiago XZA last year ... I haven't updated tyres nor alloys, everything was the company fitted and the driver's side tyre got burst in a minor pothole... company fitted apollo tyres ... Such a disappointment. Car was only driven 15k at that time
Hello sir, Can I install 215 tire on steel rim wheels on nexon xz, will be compitable.!
No, it will not be compitible
Same issue with mine bridgestone 215/60r17 spontaneous burst from inner side at two places in same time.
Sir actually alloy wheel ki width zyada hoti hai jis k kaaran tyre ka width kam hone se side wall kam ho jata hai..so that road or alloy k beech me distance kam ho jata hai jise se k tyre damage ho jata hai..
Alloy ke hisaab se tyre Profile bhi change karna padta hai....
Very helpful content! Next tym tyre aur alloy saath m change krunga!!
Are you facing issues (Scratches) with Car Paint..??
Any suggestions for paint protection.
This is actually my question .. I asked in showroom and they said in both the tyre sizes 195 and 215 alloy is the same and I was like how is that possible when there should be a difference in the width ideally but they did not agree to that and I was confused as well and I guess now this issue has proven that 195 would be smaller for these alloys and hence the cut .. is it ??
195 or 215 is profile (outer radius - inner radius). But inner circumference is R16 only just like alloy. Hence it will be same.
@@shankar4005 Thx bro ..
what will be the cost of the new stock tires while we replace them?
6.5 to 9k
@@RidiculouslyAmazing Sir extremely thanks for your time but sir i think you didn't understand my question. If I want to sell my new stock tire to any tire dealer what should be its cost.
Bhai steering mounted control nexon xm pe video banao pls
maine alloy upgrade krwae hain .. koi problem nhi ayyi hai
Take care on potholes,,,,
Wow...Finally family ki first car Tata Tigor xz+ kal delivery hui h ❤️🎉👍
Congrats.
@@wheelsofsteel8382 thnx Bro 🙏🏻
Sir milage affect kitna hua
195 k sath
Aur 205 k sath
car is looking awesome... It's good that u bought good brand tyres
Can I upgrade to 215/60/r16 on steel rims for my nexon xm? Car delivered yesterday but have to wait for the alloy to come for 15 days to 1 month. If I drive in this period then same issue arises, I will not get reasonable price for my 195 section tyres.
Never ever go for 215 in steel rim, showroom people may say nonissues but 215 on alloys only
Very Best tyres…..Much better than Bridgestone and other brand
Which TPMS you are using and Price?
Sir heavily confused between i20 imt/asta petrol and nexon xma petrol...i already have a i20 active 2019 modal...sir please help me🙏
You already own i20 so you know its pros and cons.
My suggestion would be to to opt CSUV now, EcoSport, Nexon, test drive them and then decide! ATB!
@@RidiculouslyAmazing thanks sir...i have booked nexon xma petrol...... after watching all of your nexon videos...😁
Ye side wraping karne ka video he kya
Sir Altroz mein MRF ZVT hota hai. Toh kya hum usko Yokohama k laga k mrf change karenge toh performance better hoga ??
Yokohoma is considered a good tyres, road noise bahut kam ho gaya hai. lakin ese abhi muje test karna hai, opinion dene se pahle.
@@RidiculouslyAmazing : Ok Sir thank You so much 🙏🏻
Sir which colur of Nexon is best I booked white
Nexon me alloy wheel showroom ne 195 tyre me hi daalke diye hai bole koi issue nhai hai.. bataiye koi issue hoga kya?
Aab tou aapney Yokohama per feedback dey dou, 5-6 thousands tou chal hii Gaye hongey.
Sure more than 10k and video is in editing 👍👍
Alloys upgrade ke baad plz mileage update share kijiye. Side footstep bht badiya h installation information bhi share kijiye.
Sure 👍
Always go with the right size if you are upgrading the alloy..
Tata also has alloy wheels for the smaller tyres. Your Nexon variant tyre size was 16/195. The higher variants have tyre size of 16/215. So why did the dealer not fit alloy wheels for 16/195?
Sir 195 /60 R16 ki jagah 215/60 R16 lagane ke bad kohi problem hogi Nexon xm s me please reply cz aap use kar rahe ho mere pass xm s hai usme alloy and tyre upgrade karane ki soch raha hu kohi problem hogi ki nahi???
Sir Ji - Bahut dino se request kar raha hu.. Please make video on TPMS and Auto dimming IRVM..
Done Bhai Ji ... Check the previous videos 👍
@@RidiculouslyAmazing I am sorry if I missed them.. I am going to watch them immediately
4 New alloys and new tyres what will be the approx cost.....?
Very important update ..Thanks a lot
aapka side step kitne mai aya with installation? ground clearance kuch decrease hota hai kya?
Which is the best color to buy Nexon xm petrol.
Sir i have bought nexon ev and i don’t like tyres on stock mrf wonder. Need ur suggestions to get better tyres which can improve road noise and battery range.. please suggest 🙏🏻😍
Hello bro, Any issues you are facing after tyre upsizing? Did steering and MID calibration required? My tata dealer is saying there is no need of steering and MID calibration. Even I don't need to upgrade tyres, OEM alloys can fit into 195 section tyres. I think they don't have proper knowledge. Please share your experience.
I was told the same thing that calibration is not required but you know it they are not much experienced so I will get the calibration done as soon as situation goes normal.
195 will fit in alloys but it may get damaged soon on path holes.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I too had same experience. I had purchased my Nexon in Jun 18 and was happy with steel rims, but as u know "logo ki baato mai aake" I had changed with alloy which cost me 33k with exchange of steel rim.
My experience
Earlier with steel rim not had any puncture issues but after alloy have many puncture issues.
Side wall cut. Same happened with me, but presently repaired it and using as spare wheel.
As u mentioned old tyre kaa price nahi milta that's y trying to use it as long as possible before changing to 215.
Issues arise with alloys
1) steering little hard...which was fixed by steering calibration.
2) speedo meter have little speed difference then actual...but running with that only till date.
3) mileage drop by 2 kmpl on Highway but 4 to 5 kmpl in traffic.
Alloys are supposed to be light weight and increase mileage. So I think your theory here is wrong or your alloys are heavier than the rims
@@sudarshanbodke1990 u r right alloy r lighter but width is more so friction is more hence mileage will be less
@@manish79verma
SC did steering calibration? It must be done via laptop na?
Was it free of cost?
I also upgraded alloy and tyres
Can u Plz elaborate?
Very informative 👍🏻