Italian Railways - Learn EVERYTHING About Them!
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This time on RE, we're embarking on a journey through the Italian railway system, a network that has undergone significant changes over the years - to become the impressive system it is today.
As we always do in the Railway Nation videos, here we tried to make a comprehensive overview of the railway system in this beautiful European country, which is, we must admit, from the transportation perspective, quite interesting for discussion. Not only in terms of railways...
Anyway, we discussed the Italian railway's development from a historical perspective, its organization, key players and market segments, and of course, the performance of both, the freight and passenger transport carriers.
In some of the following videos, we'll also try to continue this topic, with a discussion about the country's high-speed rail system and exploring the ambitious Italian-French megaproject, connecting the cities of Lyon and Turin via the new Mont d'Ambin Base Tunnel, through the Alps.
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At the moment you posted, the pizza I ordered arrived. Pizza for lunch with a video about Italian railways on Railways Explained. Roman gods, thank you for this.
Enjoy your meal 🍕🚄
As an italian I must say the the video is awesome. There are just few small inaccuracies. Ferrovie Nord Milano is actually the infrastucture operator of some local lines north of Milan. It used to be a rail operator till 2011. The present day rail operator is called Trenord. Ferrovie della sardegna doesn't exist. Trenitalia operates most of the trains in Sardegna island. Some local services are opereated by the local company ARST.
Eccolo, l’esperto di treni
@@papayetto3700 Eccoti, il cagacazzo di turno
Ferrovie Nord Milano no longer exists.
As Ferrovie dello Stato, to follow EU railway policies, it became an holding: Gruppo FNM SpA is the parent company; Ferrovienord manages the infrastracture; Trenord, which was born by the merger of LeNord (owned by Gruppo FNM) and Trenitalia Divisione Regionale Lombardia (owned by FS) on a 50/50 basis, is the operator of passenger transport.
In general, apart from NTV's Italo, no railway company managing infrastructure and passengers is private here in Italy.
All these regional managing authority, like Emilia-Romagna's TPER which wasn't mentioned here, are owned by their respective Region, ie they're public.
when you talk about high speed in Italy, remember the new Naples-Bari, Milan-Venice and Genoa-Milan sections (the longest high-speed tunnel in Italy, I think the second in Europe)
Don't forget the gigantic Brenner's base tunnel between Italy and Austria that reaches 64km long.
And Naples-Salerno-Reggio Calabria if God allows it.
the genoa milan-line is a controversial one tho. There is quite a discussion around the terzo valico (or at least there was), and the project hasa been taking too long and met by critics that said it wasn't worth because it shortened the trip by so little time. I honestly don't have an opinion, but it has to be considered
I think it's fair to remind, especially to the Italians who always like to complain, above all when it comes to rail and road infrastructure (although often for good reasons), who Italy (as opposed to countries like France, Spain and Germany) has to deal with a much more complex territory excluding the Po Valley and not much else (is all mountains and/or hills).
It's good to specify this since it's never said when we talking about the cost and time of realization of the works.
Again, I'm not justifying delays or other problems (also political), I mean who is correct to take everything into account, not only what we want to see (sorry for my English and congratulations on the video). 🍺
italians are people who nothing please them . they don not stpo complain on everything . i hates uch trait.
Better English than a lot of native English speakers
Bro's Italian accent is so good that its actually impressive
Bro knows italian railways better than us italians 💀
As an italian I higly approve, plus keep up, technical vids are my fav
We've also noticed that people love the most these kids of vids
9:53 I like how Sicily and Sardinia aren't even considered like they are not part of Italy xD
italian here living in florence, motorization is a serious issue, i for one am a cycling activist and as such keep a critic eye on what the administration is doing with their future project and not even a brand tram line was able to avoid the inevitable car subsidy... as such for 2 car lanes removed to make space on a bridge 3 more will be added on a brand new bridge alongside the old one.... said bridge will just be built over some useless things like parks and sport centers.... oh but a protected bike lane was asking for too much space so we ought to make do with painted lanes on the old bridge and shared 1.5m of pedestrian-bike side walk on the new one... change is coming very slowly
Some of the more mountaious provinces (Aosta and Alto Adige, if i remember well) have more cars than people.
@@superj8502 it is especially sad if you compare those provinces with the nearby Switzerland with similar geography
I just visited Milan. It looks like they're making a fair effort to build bike infrastructure there, but it also looks like they are unwilling to do so at the expense of cars. The lack of policing seems to be a problem in general, with parking on sidewalks, bike paths and pedestrian crossings all to common.
8:37 that's a polish newag impuls 2 unit! i didn't know they had them in italy, that's very very cool!
For the high speed rail video, I'm hoping to learn more about the history of the Direttissima and it's trains and how they pulled it off, as this line was 4 years ahead of the much more widely covered introduction of TGVs in France.
In short, in the 1960s several industrialized countries began to think about how to speed up their trains. At first Italy looked at tilting trains on existing lines (Pendolino) and faster tracks in parallel to existing lines, later it switched to the French model, i.e. entirely new lines not constrained by existing alignments. The Florence-Rome direttissima is some kind of hybrid as it has 10 junctions with the older line, on average one every 25 km as it was meant as a quadrupling of the former, but it has a much better alignment and above all it was the first in Europe to be conceived for high speed trains: no level crossings, no ramps, no tight curves... The French built the first line that didn't follow any old route at all, thus they could achieve even higher speeds. You can find something on Wikipedia, look for the Florence-Rome high-speed railway :)
@@gerri_c Thanks for your explanation, I already learnt something new!
Yep, we also covered some bits of that story in several other videos
@@gerri_c Also the Roma-Firenze Direttissima is still using the 3 kV DC electrification to this day, while the following dedicated "French-style" high speed lines switched to 25 kV 50 Hz AC.
In 10:32 you have to mention that northern Italy is mostly plain so it’s easy to build railways. It also have more cities due to the flat landscape.
did they move the alps last night?
@@Maulo93 Of course the alps are at their place, but the majority of the land is flat. There is the Po Valley that is perfect for building up cities and industries.
For your knowledge, in Italy there's an intercity that goes from Milan to Palermo that needs to be boarded into a ship to cross the sea between the mainland and Sicily. It's pretty cool to watch.
I asked for this video a long ago
And it arrived 🎉
Thank you from 🇮🇹
Did it meet your expectations?
@@RailwaysExplained yeah, waiting for the next video!
Great. It will be released in next two weeks 😀
Apparently something is moving in Calabria, it looks like we will get more modern trains. It's not a lot but it's something at least. Thank you for this amazing video :)
Also THE bridge. 5 million people want to finally be part of the continent.
@@Valery0p5 are you talking about the bridge on the Messina strait?
Sardinia has left the chat.....
I love the video because I often use the Freccia argento to get home since I'm from the south of Italy but I work and live in the north (i am almost over 1300km far away). I can assure you that compared to traveling by plane or bus and the bush, the train is very convenient. car 12h-15h (it depends if you are alone and on the traffic), it is similar also for the bus. the plane is faster but you have your limits when it comes to luggage. So I've been working here for almost 3 years to get down to my house I've almost always used the Frecciargento and in just 8 hours I'm with my family
(By google traduttore sorry I can't write very well)
The topic is well covered... Just keep up the good work... I am fan of your railway nation video series...
People wouldn't regret checking out your videos as well! :)
@@RailwaysExplained ❤
for whatever reason:
STAY AWAY FROM THE YELLOW LINE!
I love your videos! Nothing better than trains😁
Glad you like them 🙂
railroad tracks of the first italian project, in 1839, were made in my little mountain's village in Calabria ❤
Perché vai Trentino di cognome allora? 😅
@@Valery0p5 non è un cognome.
And there it is! The video i was waiting for since 2022! Great job as always (:
I recommed you cover the Salerno-Reggio Calabria HSL plan and the history of the Frejus tunnel in the next video, very interesting topics
One of the few things i'm proud of my country is it's railway network. Every time i hear someone complain about it, i can remember one foreigner who praised it. Great video and thanks for showing us it's not all bad here
Great vid. You gave really good insight into the history and structure of the railways in Italy. It seems to have evolved really well oger the years. Just a shame that some areas of the country are less well connected such as the area near Naples which I visited around 3 years ago. The local services in that region needed an upgrade when I went there.
9:52 you better include both islands and how their networks are going to be upgraded in the next video.
on 5:31 there is an error with the speed, 200 km/h = 125mph and 240 km/h = 150mph
3 hours and ill take the italo from bolzano to bologna
The last part of the video, on the car centric culture, is spot on.
The infrastructure of mass transit is good, even very good in some cities, but outside it is often the wasteland. This forces people to have cars. Conversely, the car-centred culture limits the development of alternatives.
oh sorry if we don't already live in your collectivist utopia, ever tried to take a train to get in the middle of a viniculture?
@@FlagAnthem *coff coff* rural transit *coff* *coff*
Fun fact: the song "Funiculi Funicula" was composed to hommage the 1st railway in Italy (the one between Naples and Portici)
13:45 hey we are building a metro at least, we are working on it. (And in reality there's also a "Passante" second line using the FS line but Trenitalia doesn't want to dedicate trains for the local service, pfff)
FNM, FSE and the other regional operators aren't private companies, they're joint ventures between Gruppo FS and some regional government entity.
They're not all joint ventures, FSE was only purchased by FS recently and the others like EAV, FT, GTT, FER, ST, ASTRAL, etc. are completely owned by the regions or the municipalities.
@@MrAlagos Sorry, my bad, should've researched more
@@superj8502 FNM is definitely the most (in)famous because it's quite big, so it's an easy mistake to make.
@@MrAlagos yeah also because i mostly take Trenord trains.
The problem is that if you don't live in a big city you are excluded from the party...
You either need to go to the city by car and potentially pay a lot on parking or take a bus to the city wich takes hours. Most times I have to go directly by car because it takes less time.
That's kinda fake there are some connections (especially in souther italy)
@@lucanoquelfarabuttomane4013 i didn't say there are no connection. But if I have to travel in 3h via bus/train or 1h by car I obviously choose the car.
And I had to take the 3 hours trip many times when I went to school, twice per week. An adult with a job doesn't have three times the time.
Or you can take a regional train, but I can confirm that a lot of small cities don't have the direct connections with big cities.
@@mattia9180 I'm saying that there are no trains at all.
Do you expect to be train stations in 1000 people towns?
Finally😍, great pronunciation of foreign words as per usual
OMG, in this video you used proper articles! that's a first in my ears and makes your videos much better! i know it's hard for slavic language natives..
I have always wondered... are there sources to the videos that you write? Because they always seem so interesting, but whenever I look in the description for sources they don't appear to be there. I only ask because the videos themselves are so interesting that I want to continue reading about the subject.
The possibility to receive a written script with the used sources exists for our Patrons, which can receive the final script upon their request.
@@RailwaysExplained So that would be the "Train Driver" or "Station Master" Patreon tier?
It is "Train Driver" tier, at least.
If you can travel light or accept to only use your everyday carry items then travelling by train is for you. And also it is safer for long distance travel than driving yourself. You can avoid road rages and speeding violators.
i didn't know they had 200kmh capable trains back then, but no surprise, Italians always loved speed
tank you again for infos!
Watching this on an Italian train, I feel like the boyfriend who reads the Wikipedia page for hot dogs while eating an hot dog
Trenitalia is fascinating. The Freccia trains are beautiful but if you aren't careful when booking you will end up on the old InterCity rolling stock which (at least when I was last there in 2019) is in rough shape with "Air Conditioning" that is very optimistically promised lol. (It was a very hot day when we were there and after the 5 hour run from Reggio di Calabria to Naples we were about to pass out from the heat)
Calabria - Naples by train seems like such a good adventure!
@@RailwaysExplained It really was! On the way down we caught a Frecciaargento from Rome to Lamezia and then took the BEAUTIFUL coastal route to Tropea. We then took a local from Tropea to Reggio (where my wife has family) and then back up the coast to Naples. There were only a handful of trains per day going from Reggio to Naples so we ended up in an old InterCity train that was HOT. This was in the month of May and it was about 30 degrees but the advertised air conditioning was pure fiction lol
@@senorsoupe hey, they written that there IS ac, not that they actually turn it on lol
Pozdrav, pratim kanal već duži vremenski period, kanal je stvarno na nivou, verovatno najbolji u branši, još kad sam video da si iz Srbije bio sam još više oduševljen, stoga ti i pišem na srpskom. Imam jednu molbu, odnosno predlog za video. Da li bi mogao da napraviš video o našim železnicama. Znam da nema nešto puno interesantno da se priča o njima u odnosu na druge evropske železnice, ali bilo bi lepo i njih da spomeneš. Na kraju krajeva, mogao bi jedan video o brzoj pruzi od Beograda do Budimpešte ili od Bg do Niša i generalno o budućnosti naših železnica, ili o periodu stagnacije pa posle i propadanja istih, bio bih ti veoma zahvalan kao i većina naših ljudi koji prate kanal.
Veliki pozdrav Matke. Svakako imamo u planu da uradimo nekoliko videa na temu naših železnica. Puno toga se dešava, a u neke stvari smo i direktno uključeni, pošto se i profesionalno bavimo železnicom.
@@RailwaysExplained Veoma mi je drago da čujem to, jedva čekam.
Thank you for the Dutch version of the transcript.
we always try to cover as many languages as we can!
VERY WELL DONE VIDEO I CAN’T WAIT FOR THE NEXT PART ESPECIALLY THE TURIN LYON ONE🤞🏻👍🏻
Coming soon!
My favourite channel, I'm eagerly waiting for the next video upload.
Have you ever done a railways explained on the NMBS or SNCB ( both are the same name but in dutch and french for the belgian railways ) im really intrested to learn more about my countrys railway ( nmbs , sncb ) 😃
Not yet 😀 but it is on our to do list for this year.
@@RailwaysExplained yes thank you some much looking forward to your video of the nmbs sncb and of course all your other video,s
Sardynii? What the hell is that? 😅
When there was Him the trains arrived on time
I recommend you to make a video on Indian railways
Great video. A video about the horrible Romanian railway system would be interesting, I think we have the worst one in Europe.
At least the landscape is fascinating.
Oh trust me the Ukrainian service has a lot more issues right around this time.
nice video bro
Thank you!
Watching this video in an Italian train ahahah
Please cover Bulgaria and Romania - Moldova
I am also a railroad enthusiast and made a video on the best Italian stations. You can take a look at it and let me know what you think. Thanks!!!😁
In the total count of km railways are regional lines suspended in 2012 (around 600 km just in Piedmont) included?
And the problem of Train in italy are the mountain in half part and southern Italy. In 2027 we activated the Napoli Bari Train high speed. The problem of this Train are Where build. (We build the Train under the mountain for give this important road to cityzen. Build the train under the mountain or in historical city is more difficult and give more problem. In Italy with this fact we use in more cases the car for go in other city.
Oh yes!!
Shinkansen...Hold my Be...ehm Pizza.
As an Italian, I must say that the real problem of the Italian railways is that the Central State has, over the decades, invested much more in the northern regions in terms of rail transport. This helped to connect the cities of the south in a one-way to the north instead of an each-other connection. This aggravated the already serious economic conditions of the South. Even today, the State is working on a railway doubling throughout the north, while in the south you can see little or nothing. Just think that Casalecchio (a city in the province of Bologna, in the north, with 35k inhabitants and 17km2 of area) has 4 railway stations, while in my city, Giugliano, in the province of Naples, with 120k inhabitants and 94,62km2, there are no stations. The problem of the Italian railways is the inequality in investments that still today makes the South an Internal Colony of the State.
Ironic (but not so much), if you think that the first railway in Italy, as you have correctyl described, was born in the South..
circumvesuviana 👑
*etnea
Hello, I'm waiting for an episode on Belgian railways, the oldest railway system in the world except from Britain's.
It is on our to do list. It will be for sure in next few months.
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nice video!
Thanks!
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In southern Italy regional trains are often late, in italy the fact that trains are often late is in fact a meme and a given, hopefully things change forn the better
The fun fact is that, statistics at hand, trains are on time (on average) in about 85% of the cases, some days a bit less, some days a bit more, but still always above 80%
@@gerri_cnon high speed trains are often late in fact when I traveled from Venice to my city the train was a few hours late, high speed trains however are almost always on time
There's usually a defined frame of tolerance, in most cases like 5, 10 or sometimes even 20 min, and if train is late for example 5 min, it is considered 'on time' statistically speaking :D
@@RailwaysExplained I wish it were as stringent as it is in japan or switzerland
Also in italy 53% of intercity trains are late, I have a video on train delays in italy but it is in italian, do you want the link to it?
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you couldn't even be bothered to google the correct pronunciation - ferrovìe dello stato, not ferròvie. And actually, the high speed infrastructure continues east of Venice until Trieste.
#notav
To matri
I work for italian railways (office job) and I can ride the trains for free, i like driving better tbh
Italian railway is not one of the best , is the best .
in which multi universe???
@@toffonardi7037 The one you are living in
Non hai tenuto conto della pandemia.