First heard the new CFX Concert grand on the M8x. I assume this is the exact same patch. It's takes fidelity, depth, and warmth in patch playing to a new level. If you are in another room you can't tell its not a real piano. It has that "thickness" almost every keyboard of the past has never been able to reproduce. You feel it in your organs. The new Yamaha sound engines are game changers.
s we get the montage soon as vst-instrument - will we get the genos2 also as vst-instrument? and wow - an 8 year old reverb-plugin, no an1x chip, no foldable screen, no 61(88 key version, no midi 2.0 and midi-thru, no poly-aftertouch, no touchscreen-control over hdmi, etc. - just repacking old samples almost without innovation 🤷
is it possible to export drum loops as track out stems on these keyboards? For example i want to use a 4 bar loop or a arabic drum loop, but export the stems as wav and use it in my DAW on different projects .
@@justinphan2984 The other demos sound a hell of a lot better, so i dunno what's going on here with this one. PEBKAC, maybe -- the lameness seems down to the sensibility of the user operating it
Would you beginning play with a minor or major chord in the long intro. KORG PA5X or KETRON EVENT on every style has a different pattern 🎹, please give me your opinion.
I know I have been always going on about how arrangers are aimed at one man band players and that the auto accompaniments are the main selling point and what but I think many of the comments in the comments section are a bit strong going on about how outdated the sounds are. Also for people moaning about how the styles are mostly oldies one fact remains some of the greatest songs written ever are songs from the 60s, 70s, 80s and even 90s. I wish I was good at playing song covers with the auto accompaniments but even though I sequence everything by hand I could still use styles as a reference point as you can revoice styles or see what sounds are used. Last year I came very close to buying a Yamaha Tyros 5 and if I had gone through with buying it I wouldn't have regretted it and maybe in time that keyboard might decline in value as I don't think I could even afford a used Genos let alone a Genos 2. Even if I bought an original Yamaha Tyros back in the day it would still be my current keyboard and you can get one of those very cheap, I think Tyros was the first Yamaha keyboard to feature organ flutes.
The additional FM tone generator is something, where I have doubts, that the difference to sampled sounds is noticeable, they put it in the synthesizer workstations too and does now all people turn to this?
I think with the comments you have to take the rough with the smooth. Some of those critical comments might also help me to make a better judgement over weather I really need a modern keyboard or if I should stick with using software based instruments like Halion 7 and Kontakt. If I wasn't unemployed I would have had no problem buying a Tyros 5 and personally if I bought a Tyros 5 like I originally planned I wouldn't have regretted my buying decision because I would have got something that actually sounds more superior to the Halion 4 Factory Library and something that's way better than my Yamaha PSR-295 ( even my Roland U-220 is better than the PSR-295 and that's saying something! ).
😂 and, the entire world breathed a collective "mehhhhhhh" 😂 it's my own fault, I was so excited thinking that we'd see tech, at least, from the MOTIF XF or earlier MONTAGE integrated... FM is nice, though. It's probably only presets. They really need to stop jerking around and make the sequencer pro level
Absolutely! Everyone screaming for digitally controlled analog and they put in another digital FM circuit/emulator. There is no way to compete with DAW if they can't even get past the 24bit threshold. Even in the 90s they had 18bit circuits especially for DSP. they are not even using modeling, they are still doing tired ROMpling. The audience wants modeling like Harken Audio or SWAM or Roland's ACB [pre-zen-core]
I bought a Psr sx700 earlier this year and i returned it because it sounded so bad compared to my 20 year old korg pa60. I had a look at genos but to me it is totally overpriced just like the kotg pa5x.
Pour un "home studio'' ce nouveau genos2 sera bien; pour ce qui concerne le fait de faire danser un public, un Ketron évent sera mieux. Chaque marque a de très bons hauts de gamme, l'important est d'obtenir celui qui conviendra le mieux à ce que l'on veut faire avec celui-ci.une très bonne continuation musicale et vive la musique 🎹.
@@Sloimer No, none of my friends are buying it either. It literally is a software update, if it was a 2 year wait then we'd accept the subtle updates. 7 years and you come up with this joke?! We are in 2023, it sounds like a 2015 workstation. I don't know who's behind it, but he ain't a producer, he ain't a visionaire.
Does not sound good ... my ten year old korg kronos even sounds much better and has faaaaaaar more features except it not being an arranger it beats this one on every corner
very good top sound ma i prefer live style guitar ketron event. Midi program guitar sound bad sound for me. Drums ok ma guitar ritmics dislike. Sound upper right hands perfect sound 💯🔝
I FEEL EXACTLY THE SAME. Does yamaha relise we are in 2023?! Music Production is 10 years ahead of this piece of rubbish. What a let down. None of my friends are buying it, and I really hope yamaha feel the sales pinch and relise they failed drastically.
The guy playing says more than you guys. I switched off after 40 seconds.Sorry you are not selling it. Bring back the guy who plays demos in various places and different genres.
Deludente , mi aspettavo di piu', e' praticamente identica alla vecchia........ e ancora con la tastiera per bambini.... neanche dimensione standard........ deluso completamente
SZERINTEM Őn tudja ,ön nem is tudja ,hogy Miről beszél -Nekem mint profi Zongoristanak is kitűnően megfelel a billentyűzet-Ez nekem furcsa,hogy miért kritizál egy dilettáns valaki -Keyboardra nem is szükséges a 88 kulcs ,mert ez nem zongora ! Ez kitűnő mehanika ,sokkal jobb. Mint a Genos 1-é,tehát ez is előre lépés ,nem beszélve a többi plus dologról,ha ezt valaki nem hallja ,nem érzi az menjen el a dr. Fülésztre is .
@@sandoragoston6673The whole musical world uses the standard piano keyboard (roland korg akai kurzweil moog prophet .. etc.etc), why this choice of 4 millimeters less per octave on the width of the keys?
Bij Thomann direkt leverbaar,prijs groot verschil tegenover Bax en Thomann !Dikke 700 euro verschil!Bax 4à6 weken wachten-Thomann op stock!Voor de hele set Genos 2-boxen-standaard 5389euro.ben te arm hiervoor,houdt mijn Genos 1 wel en psr-sx900👍👍👍👍👍👍🍺🍺
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My future keyboard ! Stunning
Steve Jobs of Yamaha thought of Genos2. In these 7 years he said: "I found the solution!! Let's take Genos 1 and change the writing to Genos2!!!"
One of the best presentations I have seen Great job! *****
Im buying it !! ..... In my dreams
Like how he fudged the last chord on Eye of Tiger to avoid copyright infringement.
Tell me it's a joke. Where is the pads? Where is the Ableton Link? I ll be wait to Genos 5 😂
It's ridiculous, I sound like such a hater in the comment section - I'm just so let down I can't express it enoughl.
Does it come with the nursing home, too?
First heard the new CFX Concert grand on the M8x. I assume this is the exact same patch. It's takes fidelity, depth, and warmth in patch playing to a new level. If you are in another room you can't tell its not a real piano. It has that "thickness" almost every keyboard of the past has never been able to reproduce. You feel it in your organs. The new Yamaha sound engines are game changers.
s we get the montage soon as vst-instrument - will we get the genos2 also as vst-instrument? and wow - an 8 year old reverb-plugin, no an1x chip, no foldable screen, no 61(88 key version, no midi 2.0 and midi-thru, no poly-aftertouch, no touchscreen-control over hdmi, etc. - just repacking old samples almost without innovation 🤷
is it possible to export drum loops as track out stems on these keyboards? For example i want to use a 4 bar loop or a arabic drum loop, but export the stems as wav and use it in my DAW on different projects .
How did Paul get from E pianos to you on the same day?
Genos 2 sounds fantastic. Loved the Original Genos so really exited for this.
The price is also fantastic 💰💰💰💰
@@TheJohndenhaag You can't buy top quality just released keyboards for low prices. Same for Korg Pa5X.
It seems always to me that Yamaha is producing workstation just for older people who are still dreaming about the past like the 80' or 90'ties
Strange thing to say. What exactly makes you arrive at such a theory, you darn whippersnapper? Get off my lawn while you're at it.
Agree. The sounds are so outdated. They still keep the styles that from Psr 3000 that I bought 20 years ago. Some styles from psr 9000 from 1999
@@justinphan2984 The other demos sound a hell of a lot better, so i dunno what's going on here with this one. PEBKAC, maybe -- the lameness seems down to the sensibility of the user operating it
Genos2 G❤ from YAMAHA It’s a Lovely and Powerful REVolution in Arranger Workstation
Would you beginning play with a minor or major chord in the long intro. KORG PA5X or KETRON EVENT on every style has a different pattern 🎹, please give me your opinion.
I know I have been always going on about how arrangers are aimed at one man band players and that the auto
accompaniments are the main selling point and what but I think many of the comments in the comments section are a bit
strong going on about how outdated the sounds are. Also for people moaning about how the styles are mostly oldies one fact
remains some of the greatest songs written ever are songs from the 60s, 70s, 80s and even 90s. I wish I was good at playing
song covers with the auto accompaniments but even though I sequence everything by hand I could still use styles as a reference
point as you can revoice styles or see what sounds are used. Last year I came very close to buying a Yamaha Tyros 5 and if I had gone
through with buying it I wouldn't have regretted it and maybe in time that keyboard might decline in value as I don't think I could
even afford a used Genos let alone a Genos 2. Even if I bought an original Yamaha Tyros back in the day it would still be my current
keyboard and you can get one of those very cheap, I think Tyros was the first Yamaha keyboard to feature organ flutes.
I will keep genos 1
Enkel Genos 2 bij Thomann,prijs is daar 4990euro
met boxen set 5149euro,en set complet met set boxen en standaard 5389 euro,wel top prijzen👍👍👍👍👍👍
Genos 1 about 3600... and used less than this...
Little bit disappointed in 2023 to be honest
Hi just watched the Genos 2 first look video it looks and sounds incredible 😯
Last 30 seconds is when I was looking for "Add to basket" button 😂
very close to First model not worth the money
agreed.
The additional FM tone generator is something, where I have doubts, that the difference to sampled sounds is noticeable, they put it in the synthesizer workstations too and does now all people turn to this?
Impressive!!
Probably will be very expensive, I would like to see a cheaper 76 key PSR-SX, with built in speakers and some of the Genos features.
Probably??? 😅😅😅 😂😂😂 are you joking
You are looking at €5k
Estoy enamorado de este teclado, es una maravilla!!!
I just love it 😎😎
Uma decepção, 8 anos e o que a YAMAHA fez de mais visível foi colocar o número 2 na frente do nome Genos 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yamaha tradictional fantasy sound but whitout power on PA Systems. Sounds to be good for home use.
I think with the comments you have to take the rough with the smooth. Some of those critical comments might also help me to make a
better judgement over weather I really need a modern keyboard or if I should stick with using software based instruments like Halion 7
and Kontakt. If I wasn't unemployed I would have had no problem buying a Tyros 5 and personally if I bought a Tyros 5 like I originally
planned I wouldn't have regretted my buying decision because I would have got something that actually sounds more superior to the
Halion 4 Factory Library and something that's way better than my Yamaha PSR-295 ( even my Roland U-220 is better than the PSR-295
and that's saying something! ).
😂 and, the entire world breathed a collective "mehhhhhhh" 😂 it's my own fault, I was so excited thinking that we'd see tech, at least, from the MOTIF XF or earlier MONTAGE integrated... FM is nice, though. It's probably only presets. They really need to stop jerking around and make the sequencer pro level
They just can't shake their 1980 texas Instruments FM can they?
11:18 this is fun
44.1 kHz, 16 bit, in 2023 it's a joke!
Absolutely! Everyone screaming for digitally controlled analog and they put in another digital FM circuit/emulator. There is no way to compete with DAW if they can't even get past the 24bit threshold. Even in the 90s they had 18bit circuits especially for DSP. they are not even using modeling, they are still doing tired ROMpling. The audience wants modeling like Harken Audio or SWAM or Roland's ACB [pre-zen-core]
61-key genos 2 Expected?
I bought a Psr sx700 earlier this year and i returned it because it sounded so bad compared to my 20 year old korg pa60. I had a look at genos but to me it is totally overpriced just like the kotg pa5x.
Bella veramente!
Would Genos 2 have very long patterns over 16 or 32 bars, they would show it.
Yamaha what happened to the grand piano of e473?
How about the new SX series????
Good
A Yamaha Reface DX with a Genos 1 is less expensive and a used Genos 1 with a Yamaha YC61 has more features. The same with a MODX.
A Yamaha não muda nada em seus teclados arranjadores, continua com esses ritmos feios, os mesmos timbres magros e carcaça frágil!
61 or 127 dk? Anyone knows?
price in the USA?
Pour un "home studio'' ce nouveau genos2 sera bien; pour ce qui concerne le fait de faire danser un public, un Ketron évent sera mieux. Chaque marque a de très bons hauts de gamme, l'important est d'obtenir celui qui conviendra le mieux à ce que l'on veut faire avec celui-ci.une très bonne continuation musicale et vive la musique 🎹.
Aqui no Brasil vai custar o que? Uns R$70.000,00? Pra fazer eventos ganhando de 150 a 300 reais 😢😢😢😢 precisam rever os valores urgentemente
São 8 saídas ?
the biggest mistake in the history of Yamaha, I am very disappointed about Genos 2!
Why are you disappointed? I have a Genos 1 - is it worth upgrading?
@@Sloimer No, none of my friends are buying it either. It literally is a software update, if it was a 2 year wait then we'd accept the subtle updates. 7 years and you come up with this joke?! We are in 2023, it sounds like a 2015 workstation. I don't know who's behind it, but he ain't a producer, he ain't a visionaire.
10:40
Dudes, use a proper mic so we can hear you better
Yamaha Humpback 2
Does not sound good ... my ten year old korg kronos even sounds much better and has faaaaaaar more features except it not being an arranger it beats this one on every corner
I love my kronos X. Beautiful sounds. I just miss the backing tracks engine. How do i replace it
My old Tyros 5 / 76 key made in JAPAN better 💯 that new genos 2
very good top sound ma i prefer live style guitar ketron event. Midi program guitar sound bad sound for me. Drums ok ma guitar ritmics dislike. Sound upper right hands perfect sound 💯🔝
🙇♂🙇♂🙇♂💖
Te glosniki dodatkowe to zagadka moga sie zepsuc 😔
Copy of Genos 1👎👎
It is a shame ! About like a Genos 1 at 5000 €. Who will buy this joke ?
Looks like a toy to make bad pop music for people who don't know how to play the keyboard. I'll stick with my Kronos.
What a disappointment! What a flop. I am so heartbroken to wait 6 years to see this disappointment of a yamaha Genos2.
I FEEL EXACTLY THE SAME. Does yamaha relise we are in 2023?! Music Production is 10 years ahead of this piece of rubbish. What a let down. None of my friends are buying it, and I really hope yamaha feel the sales pinch and relise they failed drastically.
What were you expecting or hoping to see?
Sounds synthetic and outdated. Not impressed at all
Home hi-fi level. Not a pro
But the software are free….
Omfg what a nonsense for this price
No thanks
Im not from the elite
The man talk to much come on lets hear the organs
The guy playing says more than you guys. I switched off after 40 seconds.Sorry you are not selling it. Bring back the guy who plays demos in various places and different genres.
shaped like a boat, what a JOKE,
Deludente , mi aspettavo di piu', e' praticamente identica alla vecchia........ e ancora con la tastiera per bambini.... neanche dimensione standard........ deluso completamente
SZERINTEM Őn tudja ,ön nem is tudja ,hogy Miről beszél -Nekem mint profi Zongoristanak is kitűnően megfelel a billentyűzet-Ez nekem furcsa,hogy miért kritizál egy dilettáns valaki -Keyboardra nem is szükséges a 88 kulcs ,mert ez nem zongora ! Ez kitűnő mehanika ,sokkal jobb. Mint a Genos 1-é,tehát ez is előre lépés ,nem beszélve a többi plus dologról,ha ezt valaki nem hallja ,nem érzi az menjen el a dr. Fülésztre is .
@@sandoragoston6673The whole musical world uses the standard piano keyboard (roland korg akai kurzweil moog prophet .. etc.etc), why this choice of 4 millimeters less per octave on the width of the keys?
Повне розчарування. Скільки років чекали, а вийшов пшик. Ціна в 5000 євро, це занадто за Genos 1 в новій обгортці...😢
Dude, stop talking, play the f.... instrument
You are talking to much
Bij Thomann direkt leverbaar,prijs groot verschil tegenover Bax en Thomann !Dikke 700 euro verschil!Bax 4à6 weken wachten-Thomann op stock!Voor de hele set Genos 2-boxen-standaard 5389euro.ben te arm hiervoor,houdt mijn Genos 1 wel en psr-sx900👍👍👍👍👍👍🍺🍺
Your Genos1 is superior to this, hold onto it