Guns N' Roses Axl Rose's Disastrous Return & Slash, Duff & Matt Sorum's Thoughts
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Today we take a look at Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose's failed comeback in 2002 at the MTV VMA's and the band's disastrous 2002 North America Tour. You'll also hear Slash, Duff McKagan and Matt Sorum's thoughts on the appearance.
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Guns N' Roses were the biggest band in the world in the early 90's, but following their epic 2.5 year long Use Your Illusion Tour from 1991 to 1993, the band fell apart. The band would try to get together to write new material between 1994 to 1997, but they couldn't even write one complete song, which led to the departure of Slash in 1996, and bassist Duff McKagan and drummer Matt Sorum in 1997. It was really a combination of musical differences, business disagreements and a revolving lineup which led to a dissolution of the classic lineup. And by 1998 Axl Rose was the last member of the classic lineup still standing and he was now left to his own vices as he reassembled a completely new band from scratch and started to work on the band's highly anticipated 'Chinese Democracy. record. Now producers and band members, would come and ago with former Nine Inch Nails producer Sean Beaven and Queen producer Roy Thomas Baker being linked to the record. it was also during this time that Axl Rose became a recluse rarely making public appearances, but at the turn of hte milennium Axl started to finally show off his new lineup of Guns N' Roses.with the band playing several shows in vegas in 2000 and 2001 in addition to an appearance at Rock in Rio. As As 2002 rolled around the band launched a summer tour across Europe and played some shows in Asia. As the fall approached the MTV's VMAwere coming up and the band was set to make an appearance closing out the show. Now the band made several appearances at the VMA's in the past most notably appearing in 1988, 1989 and 1992 with Elton John. Now most people weren't hardcore Guns N' Roses fans in 2002 either had no clue who was still in the band or whether they were still making music. Now Axl's new lineup consisted of guitarist Buckethead, former Nine Inch Nails member Robin Finck, and current guitarist Richard Fortus. Also part of the lineup was punk bassist Tommy Stinson, drummer Brain and keyboardist Chris Rock N' Roll Pittman and as well as longtime member Dizzy Reed. Now Guns N' Roses would close out the 2002 VMA's playing a medley of some of their biggest hits including Welcome To the Jungle and Paradise City while also throwing in a song off their long awaited record Chinese Democracy with Madagscar. Now Guns N' Roses performing at the VMA's hadn't been announced by the network ahead of time so it came as a lot of surprise to a lot of people. In the run up to GunsN' Roses performance on the VMA's that night host Jimmyfallon who himself is a big GNR fan teased the band's appearance wearing the band's shirt under his jacket as well as making a joke about the song Patience. Then came the time, host Jimmy Fallon introduced the band and while the band's name was familiar, the faces were not including Rose. Gone was Rose's slim snake like figure of the early days, instead he wore a baggy jersey to possibly hide some weight he's gained, he also had corn rows and his face looked different as if he possibly had plastic surgery. In addition to that it appeared that Rose had lost a lot of rasp in his voice singing with a much cleaner tone and some would compare his new voice to Micky Mouse. Now following that performance the reaction was mostly poor. Axl's new appearance would dominate a lot of the discussion following the VMA's and he would even be mocked on saturday night live with Matt Damon impersonating the singer. Now Axl had his own reasons for why the performance was so lackluster that night. a nervous nervous wreck all that day. Huh? Well no i wasn't that, but everything tends to go wrong in my world. Like even going to soundcheck the police wouldn't let me down the street to go to the building. Is that right? Then the day of the show they didn't let us go down the street and I had to get out of the car and run past the police. They are telling me i have to stop and Im like gotta to sing and the best part is as i am running down the street I had to run past all the people lined up to get into the building and they're going hey there goes kid rock. I thought that was pretty funny. Now why would the police let you out, I'm kinda lost on that, you know it's their loss. Just confusion, loss, not knowing what was going on, people not having people's names on the list, not knowing what passes to check all the kinda crap.
throw your suggestions below! And FIRST!
Insane clown posse the great Melinko album featuring Slash, Alice Cooper and Steve Jones of the sex pistols! One of the most controversial albums of the 90's
SOAD and their politically charge conflict to bring the band back together every year.
The offsprings?
The sad death of the Deftones bassist Chi Cheng, Marilyn Manson & Anton Lavey friendship & the Columbine massacre, the death of Wayne Static from Static X.
Keanu Reeves bands
Axl “Corn” Rose
Hahahaaaa wtf that's awesome!!
Winning
I'm disappointed in myself. That was so obvious yet so good. Great job.
r/cornhub
🤣😂🤣
Izzy was the man. Made his bucks, cut loose, kept his integrity.
Phil James
"There was a moment when I realized that I'd rather make 100 in a bar really happy than make 20,000 people in a stadium really angry." -Izzy Stradlin
Yeah man, what made Appetite for Destruction one of the greatest rock albums of all time was the interplay of guitar work between Izzy and Slash. There's no way to follow up that record when the rest of the band are junkies and Axl is impossible to work with.
Izzy wrote most of the good riffs
He was also a big part of the early song writing. Izzy is the man.
Ju Ju Hounds. Good band.
Axl seems to have lost all self awareness since the 90’s, and he’s surrounded himself with ‘yes men’ who won’t tell him that he looks ridiculous trying to dress like the dudes from KoRn.
He's been doing that since the 80s man.
When I saw him on the Not in this lifetime tour in London he dressed like he did in the 80's.
@@andrewharper1609 I saw them in Cleveland and Pittsburgh for the first and second legs of the tour. He was wearing jeans, a cowboy hat, a flannel tied at his waste and a lion tshirt.
Like Trump.
He was trying to dress like a lot of bands at that time. Someone definitely should of suggested that he doesn't have to copy their look to the tee. leave the hair as is.
Not sure why Axl couldn’t have just aged gracefully and embraced a more rugged look. An older and more weary looking Axl with a big Jim Morrison like beard would’ve been badass. I’m not sure even sure he can grow a beard with his face pulled back like that.
the band could have just stayed together and members could make solo albums while still working on GNR stuff. i guess that never works out in reality. too many egos and probably the record company would have a fit.
because Hollywood
Apparently his fringe is just above his ass now 😁
i know right? like duff, sure hes wrinkled up a lot but that looks way better than some dude tryna hold on to his youth especially if youre supposed to be a cool rockstar.
Or just embrace going bald and shave his head like Rob Halford and many others who rock the look...
GNR was a flame that blew too hot too fast
They were way over hyped.
@sha broussard as a big gnr fan.... incorrect....the eagles have the best seller.
@Kevin Michael - Boston was the same way in 1976. Came out with a big album for a debut. They were big. Decent 2nd album. Then took too long for the 3rd album to come out. Lost all momentum. Boston never start over.
*You dad saw it before. Ask him was G'n'R like Boston?? Burnt out too fast.*
@sha broussard actually, AC/DC has the best selling record with Back in Black. It's the second best-selling album ever.
@sha broussard no, I was correcting you because you said the Eagles have the best selling album, when it's actually AC/DC
Ah the 2000s, when nostalgia for 80s Hard Rock was huge.
still is lol
@@Tina-dg3tq Depending on how u look at it, we're still in the 2000s ;)
Not really as much as it is now
Sadly though, too many people are blinded by nostalgia for older musical acts and movies that they don't give new movies and music a chance. There are plenty of talented musical acts nowadays as there were mediocre acts back in the 1980s, etc.
Now it's for the 2000s
We need a deep dive into the evolution of Axl's face.
He looked botoxed out of his gourd in 2001 already.
Here you go...
th-cam.com/video/uKgrc10ClkU/w-d-xo.html
Is it Botox or a face lift?
@@arthurrimbaud7287 I'd say both
This is the go to thread on the Dark Axl years. Axl looked amazing in 1994 but by started changing for the worst in 1995...he still looked like Axl but his hair was shorter and his weight gain started. By '96 he was putting on the pounds. Most of this is obviously results of bad lifestyle choices combined with getting older(male pattern baldness) which is why most people end up looking like shit by the time they hit 40. www.gunsnfnroses.com/topic/27828-every-picture-of-axl-between-1994-and-2000/
Just like the demise of KISS, when you start replacing original members, the magic fades.
agreed, with the exception of ozzy + randy. Not exactly an original lineup replacement, but i think you get my point!
@@imkuntox Blizzard of Ozz was a band at one point so I think you have the perfect example.
He/she had no choice with Randy obviously but getting rid of Bob Daisley/Lee Kerslake killed that band...
I still wish McFarlane Toys would make a Fat, Corn Rows Axl Rose action figure....
🤣🤣🤣. Those McFarlane figures are fantastic, aren't they
I'd buy one.
It Came From The Nerd Cave fuck yeah Dude.
Axl Rose, the dancing with Mr. Cold stone figurine.
Sounds like a Halloween decoration 🎃
"HEY THERE GOES KID ROCK!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s weird that 55 year old Axl gave us two and a half hours every night, but 40 year old Axl couldn’t give us 10 minutes.
He hadn’t been performing regularly at the time, and he blew his load early. He really started the performance like a beast, running all over the stage and screaming his guts out. Plus I imagine there had to be a major adrenaline dump. Performing live on MTV for the first time in a decade he knew it was a big deal.
@@arthurrimbaud7287 i believe part of the reaso axl couldnt sing as well is because he kept running so much like he was still 25 years old. he was chubby and im sure out of breath much of it , thats why his voice got way better when after he had accident and had to sit his fat ass down to sing. when ppl wouod tell me he cant sing anymore i would say , he just needs to stand in place and he will do fine
Said his girlfriend
I saw that tour he played 3 hours
Dude got himself a treadmill and got himself back into fighting shape.
I was kind of heartbroken. I became a diehard right after their run, so missed out on it. Finally they come back in 2001, but the edge/mystique was gone. They got better as time went - I saw them in 2006 at Hammerstein when they unveiled Bumblefoot. Axl was fit, had some rasp back...probably the best post 1993 they've ever been.
I was at Hammerstein too!! NYC on May 14th. I’ll never forget when they opened the show with WTTJ, all you heard was the guitar intro, then Axl... Do you know where the FUUUUCKK YOU ARE??!!!!!!”
I loooost it!! 🤘🤘
@@griffn5135 Awesome! I was at the 12th, before the world knew about Bumblefoot so it was exciting. Axl had an amazing old school rasp at the end of TWAT that give me chills like he was BACK. He definitely put his heart into those epic shows.
There was no "they".. it was Axl
@@lucianogoyenechea8704 Yeees “ mystiques” is right. I don’t know how the hell Axl Rose has the #2 profitable tour in US history . He can’t sing any more and he just physically looks bad. James Brown could still sing in his 70s like he did when he was young. I don’t get it.🤷🏽♀️
I agree, I was at those Hammerstein shows as well and that band in 2006 when Finck was still around had a certain charm that I think even the now 'reunited' GNR is missing. They seemed like a group of guys that were actually bonded together especially toward the end of the 2006 stadium tour. And yes, believe it or not , Axl sounded great at those Hammerstein shows and looked like he was taking care of himself. It was also nice to see Axl going out around that time and actually having a social life, all around he seemed like he was doing really well.
Chinese Democracy was a good album, the only mistake was associating it with Guns N' Roses, they should've made it an Axl Rose solo album.
Agreed it's weird because it's a GnR album and it doesn't sound like Glam like older GnR albums like appetite for destruction chinese democracy would be a great Axl Rose solo album
Yea, it's one of those things where you like an artist for certain reasons and then they morph into something else and it doesn't always connect. That later record wasn't great and it never grew on me but was ok if in the right mood. Axl just became a laugh and that didn't have to happen. He was self destructive and should own that.
@@Lyka-clock I was so over GNR at that point, simply because my taste in music continued to evolve, but i get a sense he did try, in an awkward way to own some of his crap. certainly not enough. Just my thought, though.
more money with gnr name calling it different is bad business move
They sunk so much money into that thing over the years that there was no way the label was going to release it under any name but "Guns N' Roses." I agree though, it was a good album. Well, mostly. I liked about half of the songs and really liked a couple of them. "Catcher in the Rye" was really good, I like that one as much as most of the Use Your Illusion songs.
Axl Rose has burned so many bridges in his career that it's actually unfair that he still even has a career.
R.I.P. Gn'R 87' - 93'
More like 87-88.
Velvet Revolver was more legitimate than the first GNR reunion.
It was
Slash and Revolver put the music first.
Axel put his ego first.
With Weiland being the 'greatest vocalist in the world right now'? I don't think so. 😂😂😂
@@user-dn4rx8ev3j Really dude? You realise they split up over ego and all had their own personal managers right? And they all fell off the wagon too. You're putting them on a pedestal. They even admitted the second album was unfinished. Music first? Don't think so. I do love em' though. Saw them 6 times.
VR was just something that the guys threw together to keep playing music and making money... But yeah, even as illegitimate as it was, VR was still more legit than that abortion Axl pinched out.
Let's not forget his role in GTA San Andreas as a rock radio show DJ. He played Tommy Smith, who hosted K-DST and he was really good! Very self aware material (I doubt he wrote the script) but it contains self-deprecating humour, which he was happy to do and delivers it flawlessly, which is cool I guess.
I had no idea he was the host of that wow lol
I can see how bad it was now but at the moment i was sooo happy
Same. Sorta. In the moment I was stoked af. But before the performance was even over I started to noticed Axl face. That goofy outfit bothered me too, but wtf did he do to his face??
@@arthurrimbaud7287 i was so young i just thought it was a new metal thing jajaja
Meanwhile, Slash is doing killer solo work with all kinds of different, kick ass artists.
I remember waiting and waiting for that GNR record to finally come out, what a huge let down. It should have been named, Axl and friends instead.
No it should n't have been. Axl IS Guns'. It was his band from day one. He formed it, he named it. he led it and he's band's primary songwriter and Chinese is a great album.
Chinese Democracy is a fantastic record from Axl Rose and the Hired Guns. Maybe not a great GNR record, but a great album nonetheless.
@sha broussard
"Axl has not wrote one good song" what a load of absolute toss. Axl founded Guns N' Roses sport. It's a fact not an opinion unlike yours. No amount of hissy fits you will throw, will change anything. Axl and Tracii Guns formed the band, then Axl asked Izzy to join his newly formed band. Axl was the main songwriter of the band not Izzy, look up credits before you spew bullcrap. All the hits were when Izzy was in the band ? factually wrong. November Rain, their biggest hit, was written by Axl. It's Izzy who has n't written one good song since he left the band. Chineses Democracy shits on everything others have released on their own. It's not even funny. Go start listening to quality music. Last but definitely not least, Velvet Revolver sucked balls. Literally, one good riff and the rest forgettable, abysmal power chord trash. They sucked so badly, they were dropped by their own label. Now, feel free to rage somewhere else......
@sha broussard Using wikipedia as a proof. Jesus, you're too stupid for your own good. Don't expect me to take you seriously. You sound like you have a chip on your shoulders and an axe to grind against Axl. He wrote more than one song. Add One In A Million, Dead Horse, Shotgun Blues, Breakdown and Estranged to the list. The very "proof" you have posted indicates the same as well. I guess you did n't notice ? it slipped you ? I'm sorry pal but I have to rain on your parade again they never were equals (if they were as you claim, then how and why did Axl take 25% of Appetite and 40% of each UYI album publishing royalties ?). All bands are dominated by certain members and in most cases those members are frontmen especially if they're founders as well. Which is the case with Axl. GUNS N' ROSES WAS FOUNDED BY AXL AND TRACII GUNS. THEY MERGED THEIR BANDS LA GUNS AND HOLLYWOOD ROSE IN ONE BAND AND AXL NAMED A NEW BAND GUNS N'ROSES (i have to write in caps because apparently you are n't the brightest tool in the shed. Pun intended). Axl is n't paying Slash and Duff anything. He took the biggest piece of pie from NITLT tour. You pull too much bullshit out of thin air. Chinese Democracy sold more than 3 million units worldwide since sales figures mean so much to you. You should upgrade your info. Velvet Revolver were dropped by their label because Liberturd tanked. Project ran its course. I mean, you can yell at the sky with fists in the air all you want but it'll change absolutely nothing. They will never write good music again. says some know-it-all on youtube. Give me a break... By all means, do rage some more.........
@@giorgikobalava7430 A lot of things you're saying is wrong af.
You must be a terrible liar or you're just pretty misinformed.
Axl should have got a trainer did some work outs and voice training and actually put some fkn effort in. Simple.
He could pal up with Vince Neil, do some kinda tour sponsored by ‘Weight Watchers’ or ‘In-Out Burger’. 🤔
He did voice training before AC/DC and was singing quite well around 2016. I wish he'd keep trying or just stick to the studio.
@@quadradomus I know what you’re saying but you know people gain weight I shouldn’t be made fun for it happening. Everyone gets older and things change
@@gaylemalone5897 You’re absolutely correct. I’m 40 lbs from where I was 25 years ago. 😩. In the end I guess it’s easy to poke fun @ rock stars who seem to have full lives. Sorry rock star fellas. 😞
@@gaylemalone5897 that's a cop out these people have great wealth get a trainer dietician or what ever they choose to go into drugs and alcohol have a shit diet they do it to them selves if he just would have kept himself up and kept training his voice he would still look and sound great but he just let himself go you can't do that.
It was really embarrassing. I watched it live. As a long time GnR fan I was wondering what was with the corn rows and Raiders Jersey. So glad Slash n Duff are back. Saw Guns in 2016 and it was the best concert I've ever seen!
Same! I saw them in Madrid, in the old Vicente Calderón stadium. It was amazing.
I thought it was J-Roc from the trailerpark boys
That VMA performance was the saddest thing i've ever seen on TV
Watching it live the first 30 seconds or so were genuinely incredible. Then it kicked in...wtf is he wearing? Wtf happened to his face? Did he he have work done or did he just shave his eyebrows?
The saddest thing? What about when baby Jessica fell down the well? 🤔
No. No you’re right. I’m sorry. My bad. This actually was the saddest thing.
@Andy Vidito ok. You win. THAT was the saddest.
I remember sitting there confused as hell wondering what the hell I was watching. I did like the way Buckethead looked though, been a fan of his ever since so I guess there’s a positive about watching it.
I write Checks at the grocery store. So? No Jessica lived and went on to have a happy life. Guns and Roses on the other hand? 😳
No Slash, no G N' R.
Just a cover band then
As well as no axl no gnr
Izzy was the most important member, during the first 2 records.
And a very important one during the next two
@@stephanderouw7927 he was important, but obviously axl and slash are above him.
I met Axl at the legendary afterhours club, The Matador, in Toronto after his show there. I don't remember the date and didn't even realize they were playing that night. He had the corn rolls and was smoking a cigar. I shook his hand - and his bodyguard grabbed my neck. Axl said it was okay, and the bodyguard let me go. I told Axl I loved his music! A memorable night. Axl has big hands.
Honestly, at the time I wasn't ready to see this. I also wasn't ready for "Oh My God" in 1999, but I think the last track on Use Your Illusion II closing out the albums was prophetic: My World. By the way it'd be awesome to hear a story on the New York Dolls from Rock N' Roll True Stories! Thanks again! Love your work!
I like GNR when I was a kid - literally 12 years old, blown away listening to some tracks from Appetite for the first time. I was at Sam Goody the next day buying the album on cassette. And I wore that cassette out! Lies was a decent album, though I was still too young and full of energy to really appreciate it. Illusion was epic. Loved it. Worth the wait. And then crickets. I got the Sympathy For the Devil single, and the Spaghetti. But as a fan, music had moved on and GNR was completely absent.
My music tastes changed, new bands hit the scene, and I never even bothered with Chinese Democracy album. I’m no longer a rebellious teenager.
Chinese Democracy slaps
When Izzy left,they were never the same.
@sha broussard Steven played with a single bass drum. Still does. There was nothing on Appetite that would require two. It's even documented in the band members' bios. At one point, Paul Stanley of KISS wanted to produce them, showed up and began talking about what to change about the band. One of his recommendations was to add a bass drum. Yawn, they replied. Hard pass.
@sha broussard I was just pointing out that it was not about the double bass. That said, some of the members, Izzy in particular, weren't quite thrilled about Matt's style, either. He's technically competent, but Adler had a swing, a push-and-pull that Sorum either couldn't or wouldn't emulate, which had been essential to their sound.
@sha broussard Steven Adler played lots of doublebass on AFD ?? or ever... What are you talking about?
Izzy was the real writer of the band, not saying the other guys couldn't write. Velvet was awesome, but guns music was all izzy on the first album.
@sha broussard thank you for the link🤟🤟🤟🤟
I remember hearing they were playing and was excited. And like many didn't realize it was a completely different lineup and highly disappointed. Only followed GNR after that to find out if the original lineup would get back together. 15 years later finally rewarded!
The 2002 show in Chicago was incredible. I would have loved to see this band get a chance. Glad Axl seems happy
Axl's always gonna be my fav. It's a shame we missed so many of his prime years. I think he was always such a great looking dude that he hid as gravity came into effect. I reckon he shoulda just aged with his fans.. in the spotlight, and dealt with it publicly and artistically; spent the time working out how to be older Axl. He's like one of my favorite persons walking this earth, but I haven't seen any of the come back stuff live, for the reasons I give above.
Indeed he was one of the most beautiful dudes I’d ever seen. Shame his voice has deteriorated too.
I was at the show in MSG that Thursday before the Philly show that was canceled. It was a bad snow storm and they went on so late. When the lights finally went out the explosion of energy was off the charts. they played for almost 3 hours and the garden was rocking. 1 of my all time favorite experiences and also one of the most memorable. The show was that good that we were going to hit up Philly to see it again. Thank God we didn't go
I'm pretty sure that the executives around him sabotaged him in every way they could exploiting his insecurities along with other members of the gnr family. The industry as is swallows vulnerable artists. Axl is only one of many. His level of popularity being what it was, like that of elvis, the doors frontman and kurt, all those spiritual attacks takes a great toll.
GnR died when Duff and Slash left.
Izzy left. That's when it happened
@@justinwhite9689 Yes, that was the beginning of the end.
Yes, that would be hard to argue.
I would label it partial redemption. Steve Adler had to go, losing Izzy was very unfortunate. I will admit these many years later that I have Slash and Duff on my required members list. Like my opinion really matters anyway.
@Shiloh Sinaloa Yet of the 30 songs from Use Your Illusion 1+2 Izzy only wrote 3. Sure he may co-wrote a couple more but in the majority of songs he wasn't really involved. Think about it.
Thanks for Velvet Revolver Axl :)
I'm no fan of the Offspring, but it killed me when Dexter said their new album was going to be called _Chinese Democracy_
Saw them on the Illusions tour and the NITLT. It was awesome seeing them again in 2016, didn’t think it would ever happen. Yeah his voice isn’t as powerful and his range isn’t as impressive as it was in 91 but it was still Guns and F-ing Roses and an amazing show. I want new music and another tour. I wouldn’t hesitate to once again pay for pit tickets (pretty sure they were the most expensive tickets I’d ever bought but worth every penny).
Oh god i remember the failed attempt in Philly i was working in a club and tried to get my 2 friends to come on my guest list they said sorry dude we got GNR tickets for the electric factory we will try to go after but right as i started work i saw them come in upset so i asked what happened they told me about tje axel no show and how they waisted there money on the ticket been laughing ever since
The leaked footage of the New Year's Day 2001 gig at the Hard Rock in Vegas is GREAT! The band are so tight, Axl has a bit of a Mickey Mouse voice but he was slim, energetic and the show was absolutely fantastic. It is shocking how in less than 2 years it goes to shit.
Anyone interested in CD and how it came to be from 93-2008 just Google Chinese Whispers, Guns N Roses and check out the amazing work put together.
Blows my mind that most of CD was done by 2002.
I live in Vancouver and I remember the riot, the fact that he didn't show up for the FIRST SHOW of the tour boggles the mind.
I'll never forgave Jimmy Fallon trying to convince people the actual Guns and Roses were playing that night. That was a Axl Rose solo project gone wrong.
I saw GnR in 1991. A mere two songs into the show, Axl asked the crowd what they thought. Despite the crowds' roar of approval, Axl saw one dickhead in the front row, looking at his watch as if to say "it's only been 15 minutes." This prompted Axl to boast, "Well, we're gonna be here 4 fuckin' hours!" which made several in the front row giggle. I could tell this pissed him off and the rest of the show was probably in jeopardy.
Unsurprisingly, they were gone within 20 minutes.
Saw them in 2006 I think. I Bought the tickets out of curiosity thinking it would be a train wreck. They sounded pretty good but it was just weird having Axl be the only original member on stage. They started about an hour late because of some technical issues with the equipment. This was after 2 opening acts (Papa Roach and Sebastian Bach) had already performed so I don't know if the equipment problem was real or a cover story for Axl being late. I saw them again in 2016 and the show was great. They played for over 3 hours and sounded much better. They also started right on time.
Slayer and Stryper. Why they never toured with each other?🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Nice!
A decade ago in "That Metal Show", the guitarrist of stryper was asked about it and he said that Stryper was "yeah, let's do it!" and the Slayer camp was cool with the idea but chickend out in the end
How about Stryper and Winger? Their fan would love it.
@@ApethGrader 🤣😂
No mention of Izzy? His leaving was the first domino to fall.
I remember laughing my ass off at Fallon acting like a complete douche and to my surprise the laughs didn't stop.
isn't that his normal though?
@@om3g4z3r0 True but I didn't really know much about him then.
Yeah I remembered when he presented the band with so much hype and then we all know the rest!
Man, I used to have the biggest crush on Axl and used to sleep in a sweatshirt with him on it back from the Appetite for Destruction period. But seeing him like that on the MTV stage looking like that, oof...I... I was speechless.
Same. Soo sad😖😭😭😭
Same with me but the othet way around. I´m a straight male but I turned gay for cornrow fat Axl. he was so sexy... I dreamed about sleeping with him on my back almost dying cause I couldnt breathe.
@@vaihelvetedjavlafanskit6863 😂😂😂
LOL, check out "garden of eden" music video.
i was so surprised when i found out buckethead was a real person,i thought axel was just making fun of slashes hat
I saw them during this period in Columbus OH. CKY opened and Axl took a long time to come out. But to their credit they played a sick show...almost all of Appetite. Def one of the best concerts I've been to.
I remember it so clearly, I was too young to have ever seen them so I was so excited. One of the biggest letdowns ever, stayed up till the end
Rock N' Roll True Stories around the one minute mark there is a news anchor interviewing Axl I remember that interview he was coming out of a Lakers game. He said it was the first NBA game he's ever been to in his life.
You know James Hetfield was laghing his ass off
Can you do an entire video on Axl’s Cornrows?
and slashes wig glued onto the tophat
I'm 40 years old. GnR was my band growing up. I saw them in lexington ky, bought all their music, the magazines, t-shirts, etc. I was teased mercilessly in elementary school because I basically only wore GnR shirts. By the time Chinese Democracy came out I was so over axls garbage I didn't go buy the disc. To this day I've never listened to it.
The spaghetti incident was the last of GnR for me. They were my all time favorite band..... then Axl's fuckary ruined everything. So sad. My friend burned a copy of Chinese democracy. I don't think I even finished an entire song. It was all garbage. I'm glad I didn't waste money on it. I still love them from the past and the memories. The cornrows certainly ruined any future....whatever Axl's band would be.
Chinese Democracy is a great album lmao, you can't expect Axl to reinvent the music world every single damn time
You’re talking about something that happened in 2001? Dude, that’s ancient history. Who remembers any of that? 🤷♂️
All things considered, 2006 axl’s voice made a solid comeback. Go back and watch performances from that year, its good stuff
Ye I saw him 3 times in 06 an he was really good his voice had great rasp
@@Miyagi92 yup i also feel like he can go there now but doesn’t, i mean i saw him with acdc and he was singing their songs better than he does the guns songs. Maybe saving his voice for when it really matters idk
Thanks for bringing us your concise succinct reporting. Well Done
Axl just can't understand why things always go bad 4 him. Its GOTTA b everyone else - a class-act like AXL ROSE?!? Sheesh - give the poor guy a break..and a bruise...few lacerations - definitely a vasectomy!
@Jonny Botsch yeah! - 2 hell with those commiecrat, tree hugging, nambi pambi coastal elites...*whistles* nuttin- 2 see here in massa...I mean Kansas! GOD BLESS 'MHRKA! Fishing and hunting and face punching and other hardcore stuff that I always do!!
Axl had a horrible life growing up, he has a short fuse, show some sympathy.
@@HackumBuddy we did. we forgave his tantrums at the height of their success. And when he went solo and kept the name. but after a decade waiting for the self important ass to make an album, an ep, anything, and every time always an excuse why it's everyone else's fault, you run out of sympathy. We work for a wage, are willing to pay a couple days pay to see him, and all he has to do is put out an album every three or four years, and ... nope, excuses.
In 2001 that wasn't GnR, it was Axl and his solo band.
3:16 yikes, this is why you need to use a simple compression fx, it would do a lot for the audio in your videos and it's super simple to use.
I concur.
Saw GNR the other year in Adelaide and Axl was brilliant and it was good seeing the old lineup mostly there.
Roy Thomas Baker looks like alternate universe version Donald Trump.
apparently him and axl didn't get along too well.
My god, he does!
One of my favorite Producers
Axl is a fucking rock god, and gods do whatever the fuck they want.
I just got back from seeing that performance😂 Good Lord what was he thinking? Why????
One thing I'll say about other rock gods like Mustaine, Hetfield, Vedder, Slash...they all still look the same pretty much. Just older cooler versions of their younger selves. And they sound good too. But Axl-the hair weave, weight gain, plastic face...😖 and his voice. A shame about his voice because Axl had crazy range! I'm sure if he got healthier and had some vocal exercises, while he may not sound exactly like he did years ago, he could come pretty close. But yeah, that performance should've never happened lol
He was all about the looks over substance. His career should have died in the early 90s and stayed dead. His range is super limited. Faith No More and Anthrax were so much better but didn't get the recognition they deserved because they were overshadowed by pretty boy fluff bands like GNR.
I think it's amazing he keeps pushing saw them in 2018 they played 3 hours but I commend the guy he won't quit he seems a lot happier these days
Damn Axel looked like Carrot Top at the end
Meet Axl a few years back. He was surprisingly friendly.
Disneyland Paris was fantastic too.
Where did you meet him? What did you talk about?
@@DollGirlie Killarney national park, Ireland
@@AnCoilean He was on a day trip or something? That's so great :)
A video on Kyuss (Josh Homme's first big band) would be awesome!
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Love Kyuss,demon cleaner is one of my mental jukebox's favourite tunes
Kyuss is so good. I had completely forgotten about them. What's that one song, it's called like "asteroid" or something, maybe "meteor"? I forget but WOW what a song.
I love rolling blunts and listening to your rock history vids fam.
I'm sure there's a good Hollywood movie starring Matt Damon in there somewhere.
Since reuniting with Slash and Duff in 2016, they’ve never been late or stormed off stage once. Nothing but professional these days.
My thoughts on the matter is that it was just ill-advised all the way around. Guns N Roses had already made themselves into an iconic American rock band whose songs were the soundtrack for many people's lives. Millions of people recollect important moments from their lives (having children, marriage, graduation, etc.) with GNR being the backdrop to these cherished events.
You don't fuck up something as great as that by squandering what little goodwill was even still left of you by trying to a launch a reboot of the entire band by turning it into an overwrought Nü metal monstrosity populated by a revolving door of no names that Axl cobbled together for no other reason than assembling a band lacking the clout to push back on any of Axl's bad ideas and creative misdirections.
Nailed it. Thank you.
Yep well said. I call it the “Paul McCartney and the Wings” syndrome.
You do with your own creation what you please without giving dusty fucks what others think......
Why is so much of this video blurred out?
I was at that Philly show. CKY opened, and the attitude of the crowd was kind of patient, like they knew having an opener was normal. Then Mixmaster Mike came out to play as a second opener. People were still ok with that even though having a DJ play solo was a different choice for a rock show.
But Mixmaster Mike played for about an hour and a half. The crowd knew something was wrong,
A guy sitting behind me said he had a friend that worked at the venue. He stepped into the concession area to make a phone call.
He came back and said Rose was still in NYC. He stayed there partying all night. They were trying to get him to the venue before there was a problem.
A lot of time passed with no announcement of any kind. Eventually people started throwing cups of soda from the higher levels. People on the floor area started throwing folding chairs.
A man walked on stage and said the show was cancelled. The rioting intensified. I saw a few of the bottom parts of the arena seats being thrown from the upper levels. You know the type of seats in a lot of movie theaters.
People were throwing more cups and anything else they could find. People at the very top of the arena were ripping pieces of the ceiling and throwing it to the floor.
I held my arms above my head and made it out to the concession area without getting hit by anything. The security guards bailed. All the concession areas had pulled down the metal closures. A guy was beating on one of those closures yelling E-A-G-L-E-S over and over. I saw a woman on the floor waiting for EMT aid. A guy said she got hit in the chest from one of those bottom pieces of the chairs that people were throwing from the upper levels. Those chairs aren’t just cushions. The cushions have metal on the bottom side of them.
I made it outside and walked right buy about 40 cops in full riot gear on their way inside the building.
The next day Axl would not apologize despite people getting hurt.
Sounds like the guy is literally malfunctioning
When I went to see him play the first Not in this Lifetime Tour in Philly he began with a semi-apology, telling us he was happy we were there and would totally understand if we hadn't come.
“There goes Kid Rock!” Lol!
Why don’t you do some modern bands too? Maybe some stories of how bands got their break or something? I know there isn’t a whole lot of info though as with historical bands.
Ghost has a pretty good story, Maybe The Struts
absolutely! Next week we have a modern band/artist story and ghost is definitely on my radar and so are the struts.
@Danny Treadwell it’s okay you’re allowed to have the wrong opinion baby
I’m not a huge ghost fan but they are pretty decent live to be fair.
@@theonlyredspecial I respect that. Appreciate the objectivity 🤘🏻
@Danny Treadwell I love you
I didn’t realize that tour only lasted a few shows I was lucky enough to see them in Columbus Ohio.
My brother was at the riot in Vancouver.
GNR died when Izzy left.
The problem with Chinese Democracy is basically stated in the beginning of this video. That Axl chose a producer for the album that produced Queen and also one that had produced NIN albums. Axl kind of wants to be in a classic rock band but also wants to be Nine Inch Nails.
The album was all over the place and had no flow to it. The songs weren't very memorable and were overproduced. I did enjoy the song "Better" I will say. I think he just worked on the album way too long and tried to make this epic record that would be all things to rock fans. But it was more than a day late and a dollar short. Also, his new lineup was like something out of "This is Spinal Tap". Lol
That era introduced me to Buckethead. For that, I'm always grateful. I love me a good gimmick.
I was exactly the same 👌
Yep me too,that's how I discovered Buckethead and my world is a better place because of it (does that make fucking sense?)
@@skinnypete3432 Makes all the sense in the world. The man is a walking theme park.
the whole ChiDem era introduced me to my favorite bands and musicians, I don't care what they say, to me this was gold
Buckethead > Slash
My thoughts at the time? JOKE
I think somebody forgot to inform Axl that making the big time isn't your final destination. It's the beginning of the real work. It's hard to unburn a bridge.
Compared to Micky Mouse 😂😂😂😂 that's a new one I'm using whenever someone trys to tell me how good of a singer Axl is
To be fair, that's him at his worse. 2006 Axl was a powerhouse with incredible range.
@@rsmith02 Axl always has and always will suck
@@jackoakes1998 nah.
Is one of the best lead singers EVER
In fairness....In his prime he had some pipes, it may have been short-lived, but he was great for a little while....Talent was there
You need to run these episodes through a compressor, your volume is all over the place.
@ 1:08 -- Gotta love how the "squares" at KNBC-Los Angeles couldn't spell Axl's name correctly.
Am I the only one who honestly wonders if Axl was "replaced"? I am blown away by his change in appearance, and now that you pointed it out, yeah his voice sounds a LOT different; Like not just "oh he got older" but almost "this sounds like someone trying to do an IMPRESSION of Axl Rose"...kind of creepy
I used to wonder that about Steven Tyler. On the first record, he sounds like a different person.
I remember seeing that live, I thought it was cool for what it was... by that time I had already seen a couple of performances with the new guns... I knew what to expect so it wasn't much of a disappointment, I knew it was something else without Slash n' Duff... something not as good but still kinda of cool
Sorry Axl but G n R will never be the same without the whole family. The fans have spoken.
I've been to a lot of concerts in my lifetime. I can honestly say....guns and roses was top 2 for worst shows I have ever been too. The other was kiss . But the kiss show was ruined because some kiss army kids thought they were cool.....guns and roses show was horrible because it just sucked. We waited 2 1/2 hours from the time skid row left the stage until they came out. Alpine valley in Wisconsin. It was an absolute horrible experience.
I saw them in hershey, Pa in 1991, and although we were disappointed they didnt sound as good as we hoped, they didnt do us like that! sorry your experience was so bad, but now you know . . . the rest of the story!
Little River Band is awesome show..Paid $10 at a carnival..Expert sound and musicians
@@inconnu4961 Scranton here,Salute!!!!
Once the candle burns out, don't try and light it again. Rock bands all have their day, their time, and then we're left with the material.
That police story is a good one there buddy. You really couldn’t come up with something better?
Right? As I listened to him saying that I immediately thought "ok this sounds like a lie"
Love your vids. But PLEASE PLEASE sort out your audio clip levels! It’s really frustrating having to turn it up every time an interview clip comes on. Cheers!
It was all Egos (with a lot of drugs) that destroyed them
i just saw GnR live 3 days ago .. 3 years after your video posted and axl sounded great,,, slash is a guitar god and they rocked the house for almost 3 hours.they got a standing ovation and did 2 encores
I remember catching it on TV and I didn't know what the hell I was watching. The corn rolls was rediculous and at that time I didn't know who bucket head was and I was like man these guys are desperate lol. How do you go from being the coolest guy on earth to a complete doofus. Although we know Axels arrogance was legebdary the vma awards disheartened/saddened me a bit
I remember that day in phily, pure mayhem... however he came back around and did do a show very small show at the electric factory here and apologized for the show he didn't show up for in phily, personally I think that's why he did that small venue
The minute Izzy left GnR, I lost interest in them. Swear to God
The unspoken backbone of the group. The guy who kept them grounded. The least cartoon-ish of them.
@@kevinp1046 indeed. Plus, he wrote lots of lyrics and was a great guitarist
@@maturanita He also wrote a lot of music. During Appetite and Lies he was the biggest songwriter of the band.
You missed Stern show totally ripping the performance the next day. Apparently axl was listening to it thinking it was going to get huge praise.