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Best class in game as it's balanced and doesn't have stupid hsw cars. EDIT: also tuner races are quite unique and fun itself compared to regular plain races
i thought hsw upgrades are 'stupid' because i'm just jealous cuz im stuck on 8th gen, but after further thoughts i realized - yeah, those are stupid as hell, do not make sense at all while given to new cars
@@wici4572 the recent speed glitch proved to me that absolutely ALL cars should have HSW upgrades because they all become immensely fun if they go the speeds they're supposed to go, specially the sports cars and supercars, and even most of the muscle cars. Without that glitch, the game is back to being a snooze fest to me.
Tuners such a nice class to race, either all or without the top 4/5 cars. Mid-tier sports cars have always been among the most enjoyable to race. Tuners makes a selection of those more accessible. Or if you use the old tier B (now spread over tiers A-C) you get a few nice muscle, sedan & coupe cars thrown in for good measure.
I too wouldn't want the class to get too bloated. But I think the Auto Shop DLC was one of the best and I did hope for continued content. If not new cars, I would like to see some existing cars added to the class for racing such as the Elegy Retro or Jester Classic, ones that make sense of course. Tuners on the whole seem forgotten about; I gave up trying to win prize rides because I can hardly find a race lobby to compete in anymore.
Tuners is like my favorite DLC ever. Everything about it. And that Calico is my absolute Bae. Even though the Sultan is better I have more confidence and skill with the Calico because I learned how to drive it first.
@@pulyps20sf omg. I know. I can still hear the Rev limiter going insane. I like to tap the handbrake real fast while hitting a bump. I always feel it does something. I swear I've heard the Rev act like it used to atleast once while I was driving it during the double (or 4x) tuner event.
Brain rot dlc - excessive slang on missions, borderline softcore porn. Leveling system to unlock gear and cars - by being a driftard. If it wasn't double money, I'd abandon this whole dlc in a minute.
I'm liking how a number of classes have 4-5 cars in the S Tier unlike Supers and Sports which only have HSW cars at the top and even though this DLC brought in 12 new Sports cars to an already large Sports class, it's nice to see that 4 of them make up the top tier for Tuners races with 2 being good on the corners and 2 being good for top speed. Nice to finally see this video though after seeing DLC vehicles being released every week since the launch of the Bottom Dollar Bounties DLC. Speaking of which, now that all the DLC vehicles have been released, will the next class video be out next Thursday or will it stick to the 2-week (or 3-week) gap between them like the rest of the videos in the series? And if there are any vehicles you may need for your testing, I think I have a few that have been removed from the websites, not 100% sure how many though.
New testing video every week for the next two weeks until I go on holiday, then aiming for the old normal once every two week schedule when I get back, assuming the testing for those classes doesn’t take too long
@@broughy1322 Nice, wasn't sure how that would work out since the release of the Vorschlaghammer last week kinda pushed this video back a week and the Vans and especially the Open Wheel classes are relatively smaller (unless all 3 setups are being tested again).
I found your channel through one of your subscribers that posted the song forever young by Alphaville 15 years ago and they joined youtube 19 years ago, that's crazy they must have kids now
one would think after multiple years rockstar would fix the classification of the postlude and kanjo sj one would not know rockstar very well though...
Oh my god you don't know how much I was looking for a video like this, I'm relatively new to GTA and like to race a lot at the LSCM and I'm in the top 7000 using the Calico and one of this days I was in a race with impressive racers like they were in top 1000 of the lap ranking and all of them where using the Vectre, so I was wondering if the Calico was not performing at its best? Like why all of this guys where using the same car, the Vectre? And I understand as you said Vectre and the Sultan have those features that's make it perform better in a more complete context, for example when rubbing some corners and better stability, although the Calico has that acceleration and speed top lacks that stability, here is when I think racers get used to a type of characteristics of those cars and take advantage of them, I usually lose speed with the Calico, because it is not very stable, I'm still not that neat and I can't always make clean and consistent laps maybe I will try now with these vehicles less acceleration but with more stability to achieve that, the funny thing is that the guy who was winning all the races changed the Vectre to Sultan RS and that's when he lost the races, possibly it was a circumstantial situation or you must select the vehicle depending on the track and how to better adapt the characteristics of this one, great video btw
Hey Broughy1322, how do you deal with the Sultan RS Classic's over steer? I noticed the Sultan Classic (4-door) has much better control vs its coupe brother
The Sultan RS, was my favourite but I get more consistent lap times with the Growler, Calico, Emperor. Do you use sports suspension for the Sultan? that seemed to work best for me.
I want a 2020 Mercedes C63AMG that can be converted into 2012 C63AMG black seriesin Benny"s,, both can be fitted with widebodies, they could be cool aditions to tuner cars, also a 2002 BMW M3 GTR
Ok, are all of these with upgrades or without ? Tried drag racing with the Jester against an S2. Straight road, both us had used the Nitro, the speed boost from that was gone. Still I couldn't catch up to him. Mind you customs were not allowed, so they were stock variants. Jester gets a magic boost with upgrades then ?
I would consider the analysis of the best car overall on top of Broughy's outstanding work, but considering Sessanta's heists, where you MUST pick a Tuner Car or ride using her own Tailgater S.
I believe the Jester RR with rear louvres, which make it bulletproof from the rear (this doesn't apply to all cars with louvres, just the Jester RR because of weird hitbox shenanigans) is the go-to pick for the Auto Shop heists. Some cars have big spoilers that can offer some protection from behind but the RR is the only one where the rear window can be completely covered
The Vectre is the best for tuners/ street races as, with its 8 gears, brake boosting makes it as fast as the calico and growler in a straight but has more grip. (Remember these have the handling flag which stops you from going faster once maxing out the gears)
damn. I have no idea why but I find it soo hard to extract laptime out of the sultan as opposed to the vectre or the calico(street races ofcourse). In my own racing i've seen that i'm heaps faster with the calico than any other cars. The sultan is just too much a pain to drive. You can easily spin out if you're not careful in taking the corners smoothly
Vans, open wheel, off-road, utility, industrial, commercial, service, emergency, military. Motorcycles is very unlikely, cycles is a maybe, boats, helicopters, planes are 99% not going to happen again. We’re basically only half way through.
I believe it was said during the first tuner video that the bottom option, well, bottoms out. And that makes the car very annoying to drive, leading to worse laptimes.
@@DustyKnackers regular comet s2 has the broken spoiler mechanic which doesn't give the car the traction bonus when is raised, on the other hand s2 cabrio spoiler works as intended
Don't know how you get consistent with the Sultan RS Classic, Growler, Euros & Comet S2 they all react very poorly to the bumps during turns... I'll always take the Vectre, Calico GTF, Jester RR & Cypher over those in their respective tiers.
Can’t say the same for the rest cuz I don’t race with them but the sultan RS Classic is one of those cars you have to teach yourself how to drive cuz its super sensitive, much like the Turismo Classic, and eventually after enough practice you can lay down some good laps and dominate races
its reductant because all cars are stock in those races and their performances around a track and down a straight is irrelevant for how points are scored in Drift Races
Lowered stance would make them much worse around corners, some of them gets a boost in top speed(like the Comet s2 coupe), but the hit they take on their handling is just too much to make it not worth the while. But using the stanced suspension is a good strategy for drag races.
Everything about this video is wrong and shows you how lazy R☆ have become. Tuner class that races together having to be tested and put in teirs. Why? They should all be balanced so they can race each other. Literally in the same class but can't race each other. This goes for all classes. It's Insane. If this was intentional then teir system should have been made so the F in this class can race say a B from coupes or muscle. Great info video as always. Just shouldn't need to do this. Also they give lower options for upgrades like engine level, but why would you use them unless you could custom build for a teir. Ridiculous system tbh.
@Johnny362000 then why have classes? Why push the multiple races, race creator, tuners and Bennys dlcs? Rubbish! RP devs test and balance their cars. It's all of you so far up R☆ rear end, they get away with everything.
@@garethshaw1645 I have seen RP server handling and I have never been more glad those people aren't employed at Rockstar. And again on the classes, have you played any racing games? Have you seen how broken the classes in NFS Carbon and Undercover (which are EXPLICITLY performance-based) are?
Ok, chalico is pretty fast, but it also is like giant heavy log on wheels. This thing barely turns, I would rather pick my jesterRR because it feels much more stable than chalico
and completely retest all 800 vehicles in the game? good luck with that CCGP is a balanced track with the whole point showcasing every part to a cars performance as fairly as possible, sure there are other tracks that do the same and may be better, but this is the one he settled on :D
@@StarmenRock sorry he didnt have the foresight to predict which cars would be part of the summer DLC i guess, and such videos are always classified as "updates to their respective testing videos" and "more details can be found on gtacars.net" but sure he's worse than gta online
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Quite ironic that the Tuners class misses out on the most wild performance upgrades
I would never enjoy the Calico with HSW. I always feel HSW...sure it gives it all that power, but the car always drives like shit.
@@TranceportationXVectre with HSW upgrades would be a force to be reckoned with tho
Good ol' chewners class
Innit
Tuna class
Lidderally
Making custom Kanjo SJ’s non raceable is one of the dumbest moves R* ever made
Worth noting that the Sultan RS Classic has no off-road grip loss. Which helps for the occasional corner cutting you can do in tuner races.
Best class in game as it's balanced and doesn't have stupid hsw cars.
EDIT: also tuner races are quite unique and fun itself compared to regular plain races
i thought hsw upgrades are 'stupid' because i'm just jealous cuz im stuck on 8th gen, but after further thoughts i realized - yeah, those are stupid as hell, do not make sense at all while given to new cars
@@wici4572 the recent speed glitch proved to me that absolutely ALL cars should have HSW upgrades because they all become immensely fun if they go the speeds they're supposed to go, specially the sports cars and supercars, and even most of the muscle cars.
Without that glitch, the game is back to being a snooze fest to me.
@@pedinhuh16its patched now, fun while it lasted
0 mins 0 shut up. Thank you for your work Broughy!
What I love about tuners is that the cars that aren’t as good for racing are great at drifting and drag races: Futo, Warrener, ZR, Remus, etc
it's nice of Rockstar to forget only the slowest most off the pace cars to be raceable. unlike that one sports classic car that has guns in free mode
The Ardent is race able now wym?
@@GravityRushRaven remember how long it wasn't?
This is awesome. Nice to see four cars that are competitive for the top spot. Thank you for your work Broughy!
Tuners such a nice class to race, either all or without the top 4/5 cars.
Mid-tier sports cars have always been among the most enjoyable to race. Tuners makes a selection of those more accessible. Or if you use the old tier B (now spread over tiers A-C) you get a few nice muscle, sedan & coupe cars thrown in for good measure.
Great work as always. :)
I am thankful for what you do.
Grace and peace be with you brother.
I too wouldn't want the class to get too bloated. But I think the Auto Shop DLC was one of the best and I did hope for continued content. If not new cars, I would like to see some existing cars added to the class for racing such as the Elegy Retro or Jester Classic, ones that make sense of course. Tuners on the whole seem forgotten about; I gave up trying to win prize rides because I can hardly find a race lobby to compete in anymore.
We gotta appreciate all the effort he’s putting in these video’s!
Tuners is like my favorite DLC ever. Everything about it. And that Calico is my absolute Bae. Even though the Sultan is better I have more confidence and skill with the Calico because I learned how to drive it first.
Wish they never nerfed the calico
@@pulyps20sf omg. I know. I can still hear the Rev limiter going insane. I like to tap the handbrake real fast while hitting a bump. I always feel it does something. I swear I've heard the Rev act like it used to atleast once while I was driving it during the double (or 4x) tuner event.
Same. Wish it had a follow up. I don’t want to be a fucking cop in gta.
Brain rot dlc - excessive slang on missions, borderline softcore porn.
Leveling system to unlock gear and cars - by being a driftard.
If it wasn't double money, I'd abandon this whole dlc in a minute.
Love how this is also the class of racing for the weekly prize ride
Idk why I even watch anymore, I haven’t played in months.
Oh right…Broughy Love
Happy birthday!
I'm liking how a number of classes have 4-5 cars in the S Tier unlike Supers and Sports which only have HSW cars at the top and even though this DLC brought in 12 new Sports cars to an already large Sports class, it's nice to see that 4 of them make up the top tier for Tuners races with 2 being good on the corners and 2 being good for top speed.
Nice to finally see this video though after seeing DLC vehicles being released every week since the launch of the Bottom Dollar Bounties DLC. Speaking of which, now that all the DLC vehicles have been released, will the next class video be out next Thursday or will it stick to the 2-week (or 3-week) gap between them like the rest of the videos in the series? And if there are any vehicles you may need for your testing, I think I have a few that have been removed from the websites, not 100% sure how many though.
New testing video every week for the next two weeks until I go on holiday, then aiming for the old normal once every two week schedule when I get back, assuming the testing for those classes doesn’t take too long
@@broughy1322 Nice, wasn't sure how that would work out since the release of the Vorschlaghammer last week kinda pushed this video back a week and the Vans and especially the Open Wheel classes are relatively smaller (unless all 3 setups are being tested again).
I found your channel through one of your subscribers that posted the song forever young by Alphaville 15 years ago and they joined youtube 19 years ago, that's crazy they must have kids now
one would think after multiple years rockstar would fix the classification of the postlude and kanjo sj
one would not know rockstar very well though...
Oh my god you don't know how much I was looking for a video like this, I'm relatively new to GTA and like to race a lot at the LSCM and I'm in the top 7000 using the Calico and one of this days I was in a race with impressive racers like they were in top 1000 of the lap ranking and all of them where using the Vectre, so I was wondering if the Calico was not performing at its best? Like why all of this guys where using the same car, the Vectre? And I understand as you said Vectre and the Sultan have those features that's make it perform better in a more complete context, for example when rubbing some corners and better stability, although the Calico has that acceleration and speed top lacks that stability, here is when I think racers get used to a type of characteristics of those cars and take advantage of them, I usually lose speed with the Calico, because it is not very stable, I'm still not that neat and I can't always make clean and consistent laps maybe I will try now with these vehicles less acceleration but with more stability to achieve that, the funny thing is that the guy who was winning all the races changed the Vectre to Sultan RS and that's when he lost the races, possibly it was a circumstantial situation or you must select the vehicle depending on the track and how to better adapt the characteristics of this one, great video btw
I love the Growler to race wit it takes more skill but it’s really good
Hey Broughy1322, how do you deal with the Sultan RS Classic's over steer? I noticed the Sultan Classic (4-door) has much better control vs its coupe brother
Idk why, but the jester rr is just the best for me, im always racing using it, and win
Fastest/best youtuber for this content.
The cypher in an actual race is the best for me, the share weight and handling help with dirty racers
for me it's the calico with the right rims and placebo setup countering the understeer
The tuner's class has arrived.
*chewner
@@South4153 what? Why?
@@mosshivenetwork117 BRI'ISH!!!!
@@StalinBeWallin I shoulda known!
"Nobody likes the tuna here"
The Sultan RS, was my favourite but I get more consistent lap times with the Growler, Calico, Emperor. Do you use sports suspension for the Sultan? that seemed to work best for me.
Whatever is in the middle works fine. You don’t want it too low
Agree that Tuners is the best for balanced racing - let's hope Rockstar doesn't notice!
With the sultan and vectre are you using the competition suspension? Just seems like the cars handle a little weird with that insane camber
the Vectre yes, the Sultan is the middle option because handling is ruined if you use competition
@@DiNmiTe thanks mate 👍🏻
I want a 2020 Mercedes C63AMG that can be converted into 2012 C63AMG black seriesin Benny"s,, both can be fitted with widebodies, they could be cool aditions to tuner cars, also a 2002 BMW M3 GTR
Ok, are all of these with upgrades or without ? Tried drag racing with the Jester against an S2. Straight road, both us had used the Nitro, the speed boost from that was gone. Still I couldn't catch up to him. Mind you customs were not allowed, so they were stock variants. Jester gets a magic boost with upgrades then ?
testing is with fully upgraded cars
I would consider the analysis of the best car overall on top of Broughy's outstanding work, but considering Sessanta's heists, where you MUST pick a Tuner Car or ride using her own Tailgater S.
I believe the Jester RR with rear louvres, which make it bulletproof from the rear (this doesn't apply to all cars with louvres, just the Jester RR because of weird hitbox shenanigans) is the go-to pick for the Auto Shop heists. Some cars have big spoilers that can offer some protection from behind but the RR is the only one where the rear window can be completely covered
@@Johnny362000 Valuable intel. Thanks.
And one of the Dominators from the update has louvres
@@HoggySklump those ones do not make it bulletproof from the rear, only the Jester RR's louvres have that feature
@@Johnny362000 Bought Jester RR and tested myself, 100% Zentorno-Class coverage confirmed.
Idk why but my in game stats say my growler reached 180+ mph as my fastest driven vehicle😭😭😭
I've always wondered why they did the Comet S2 so dirty...
Criminal how Elegy Retro & Jester Classic aren’t in Tuners class or have HSW
I wonder which of these is the best for drifting, in terms of control of the car
The Vectre is the best for tuners/ street races as, with its 8 gears, brake boosting makes it as fast as the calico and growler in a straight but has more grip. (Remember these have the handling flag which stops you from going faster once maxing out the gears)
damn. I have no idea why but I find it soo hard to extract laptime out of the sultan as opposed to the vectre or the calico(street races ofcourse).
In my own racing i've seen that i'm heaps faster with the calico than any other cars. The sultan is just too much a pain to drive. You can easily spin out if you're not careful in taking the corners smoothly
someone know a spreadsheet of every tuners tracks with WR
What's left? Motorcycles and Offroad?
Vans, OW, Offroads + other car classes in the game, Motorcycles are very unlikely
Vans, open wheel, off-road, utility, industrial, commercial, service, emergency, military. Motorcycles is very unlikely, cycles is a maybe, boats, helicopters, planes are 99% not going to happen again. We’re basically only half way through.
What cars would you like to have HSW?
Bullet and Adder for a start
@@broughy1322 Bullet definitely needs some love!
Noticed in the testing that the Sultan didn’t have the lowest suspension option. Isn’t that required on that car to get the best traction?
I believe it was said during the first tuner video that the bottom option, well, bottoms out. And that makes the car very annoying to drive, leading to worse laptimes.
Correct, this can be seen on gtacars.net with the relatively uncommon “middle suspension better” label for the car.
Still no Off-road Test Video yet, hopefully we will get to see them after this video.
there are other proper classes that come before OffRoads but yes it will be done eventually
Off-road will happen after vans and open wheel. It’s a bigger class than most people realise and it’s taking a lot of time to test.
nice
Comet S2 Cabrio not a tuner in Rockstar's world either?
Correct 🙃
@@broughy1322 Are they the exact same car? I can't explain why, but I love the way Cabrio drives, but can't drive the S2 in the same way.
@@DustyKnackers regular comet s2 has the broken spoiler mechanic which doesn't give the car the traction bonus when is raised, on the other hand s2 cabrio spoiler works as intended
@@Revvlyn not true, the S2 Cabrio's spoiler works exactly the same as the hardtop
@@Revvlyncabrio spoiler is broken too
Don't know how you get consistent with the Sultan RS Classic, Growler, Euros & Comet S2 they all react very poorly to the bumps during turns... I'll always take the Vectre, Calico GTF, Jester RR & Cypher over those in their respective tiers.
Can’t say the same for the rest cuz I don’t race with them but the sultan RS Classic is one of those cars you have to teach yourself how to drive cuz its super sensitive, much like the Turismo Classic, and eventually after enough practice you can lay down some good laps and dominate races
Euros in the FM2 orange is beautiful
I wonder if broughy will ever do a best drift cars video, comparing each vechicle with the drift tuning upgrade, would be fun 😂😂
sultan rs has no grip
Speaking of the Tuners Vehicles, have an idea in the future, why not make a video the best Drift Vehicles Tier List used in Drift Racers.
its reductant because all cars are stock in those races and their performances around a track and down a straight is irrelevant for how points are scored in Drift Races
These times are with lowered stance?
lowered stance from the interactive menu doesnt improve performance
They’re all with normal handling, which provides the quickest times.
Lowered stance would make them much worse around corners, some of them gets a boost in top speed(like the Comet s2 coupe), but the hit they take on their handling is just too much to make it not worth the while.
But using the stanced suspension is a good strategy for drag races.
Sultan is best tuner period.
How does the Sultan have a period? Im assuming you're talking about the car.
For the LS street races specifically, the Vectre is the best car.
Everything about this video is wrong and shows you how lazy R☆ have become.
Tuner class that races together having to be tested and put in teirs. Why? They should all be balanced so they can race each other.
Literally in the same class but can't race each other.
This goes for all classes. It's Insane. If this was intentional then teir system should have been made so the F in this class can race say a B from coupes or muscle.
Great info video as always. Just shouldn't need to do this.
Also they give lower options for upgrades like engine level, but why would you use them unless you could custom build for a teir. Ridiculous system tbh.
I think you have very unrealistic expectations. There are dedicated racing games that would kill to have 4 competitive cars like this
@Johnny362000 then why have classes? Why push the multiple races, race creator, tuners and Bennys dlcs?
Rubbish!
RP devs test and balance their cars.
It's all of you so far up R☆ rear end, they get away with everything.
@@garethshaw1645 I have seen RP server handling and I have never been more glad those people aren't employed at Rockstar. And again on the classes, have you played any racing games? Have you seen how broken the classes in NFS Carbon and Undercover (which are EXPLICITLY performance-based) are?
:)
Ok, chalico is pretty fast, but it also is like giant heavy log on wheels. This thing barely turns, I would rather pick my jesterRR because it feels much more stable than chalico
First :p
Its weird to say this but I think Broughty needs to Change his damn track and stop using cutting corners lol Try something different
and completely retest all 800 vehicles in the game? good luck with that
CCGP is a balanced track with the whole point showcasing every part to a cars performance as fairly as possible, sure there are other tracks that do the same and may be better, but this is the one he settled on :D
Why do you think the track needs to change?
Broughy dripfeed worse than gta online
it really isnt
@@DiNmiTe just go look for youself the entire "best car playlist", its been one a month and some are already obsolete
@@StarmenRock sorry he didnt have the foresight to predict which cars would be part of the summer DLC i guess, and such videos are always classified as "updates to their respective testing videos" and "more details can be found on gtacars.net" but sure he's worse than gta online