1958 Porsche 356A Cold Start and Drive
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- #Porsche356 #356ColdStart #Porsche Watch as we do a Cold Start on our 1958 Porsche 356 A Cab after not running for several weeks. This is an original Porsche 356A car (not a replica, or a speedster). It isn’t difficult, but with the carburetors completely dry and using the original fuel pump, it can take up to a minute of cranking to start. This is an important step as it lubricates the engine with a minimum of load on the internal rotary bits. We have an Optima 6V battery installed that we keep on a Battery Tender so it is always fully charged and cycled. The starter is in good shape and had its shaft bushing replaced the last time we replaced the clutch a few years ago.
After the car is running, we go for a nice little ride on some of the back roads here in Colorado. I try to get all the cars out at least once a month weather permitting during the winter to keep them fresh.
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Hi there! I was trying to be organized and I accidentally deleted some comments (thought I was filing after answering). Hopefully you got your answers, but if you would like to repost (if you didn't see a reply), blame me. Long day and I was out of it. Sorry. :(
awesome vehicle must be a real treat to ride around in that Porsche even if its just a short ride to keep the engine going. I love a lady that appreciates a vintage car and knows how to handle it behind the wheel. Thank you hope to see more videos with some car revving.
What a beautiful car. Thank you for sharing it with us.👌
Hi just purchased a 1959 356A Cabrio (my 1st car this old) and was freaking out because I couldn't start the damn thing. Your video saved me a heap of embarrassment and I got it started up with no issue following your useful guide. Many thanks 👍🏼
Love your car and how you two show it off. Had a 66 VW in my late teens lasted ten years two crashes and two engines. Those were the days of great simple and reliable cars on a budget. The Porsche was just a dream back then. Wonderful to relive some of my early days and dreams. Thanks again
Love the 356, 'the bathtub', I'm glad I took Nick Murray's recommendation. Great videos.
Hi Rusty, thanks for taking his rec. Welcome to the channel. Miss Eva has been in my family since 1961. I think it is time I put a video out with Franny about its history. Heidi
Heidi and Franny's Garage Would you gals do a new welcome video and a tour and history of all of your cars? That would be really cool :)
That interior is so spotless. Just gave me some motivation.
Quinton TV thank you. We have spent some time trying to fix up for car shows.
That car is a stylish beauty!
I came from Nick Murray's channel. I'm loving your videos so far!
Thanks so much! Welcome!
obdurare: me too, one of the Porsche-lovers brought to you on high recommendation by Nick Murray! Love your vids too, as long as it's about Porsche. And not this other brand, which name I tend to forget all the time, lol. Keep the vids coming! Cheers from Europe.
obdurare Ditto. A real class act. Bravo. Love the dedication to Shammoo. This "tail"has a happy ending. Cheers from Canada.
Oh, cool. I am assuming you watched Shamu's slumber or something? We hope to have more Shamu (Shammoo) video. The truth is we had named Shamu after the whale for the 'whale tail' but the reason why it is 'Shammoo' and not 'Shamu' was that the license plate was already taken. :( Heidi
Awesome. Welcome to our channel. In all honesty, I think we shouldn't have all P cars in the garage, then it would be boring. Heidi
You are a very good storyteller, and a very good videophotographer.
Thanks for the lovely drive.
Thanks so much! Really glad you liked it :) Franny
What a beautiful piece of history; thanks so much for sharing. You and Heidi obviously love your cars!
Kevin Davis wait until we do a full introduction on Eva. It's been in our family almost since its inception.
Hi Franny, Enjoying watching your videos here in New Zealand and crikey you have some nice cars.
I would like to suggest a please start the engine in neutral with foot off the clutch, if foot is held on the clutch pedal it is very hard on the crankshaft thrust bearings and crankshaft journel due no/low oil supplied while cranking verse high pressure from the clutch pressure plate.
My wife and I loved this video! The car is so beautiful and we love your style (and driving gloves)!! Keep it up!
LOL. Scott, I was like, driving gloves. It was SO cold that day that Franny had on a pair of gloves that I bought from a friend who sells them as a side business. I think that video was shot in January or February, so it was a bit cold (ie, cold start). Heidi
that's a nice car. it's always a Joy to have unique stuff
+hodger509er yes. Thanks. It has been in our family since before I was born. :)
Loved to hear the start up sounds. I’ve watched hundreds of car videos and most seem to leave that part off. I don’t even need the music in the video as the car engine sounds are enough for me. I’ve watched this video three times. I think I’m addicted. :-)
Wow
I also came from Nick Murray's channel.....you guys are awesome!!!
Hey Dave, that's great. Welcome to the channel. Glad you are here. Heidi
Nick Murray sent me here!
That's awesome. We are so excited to have you here. We hope to have many more great videos that you love. Heidi
I like. So much the car and your gloves. Greetings from Spain!
OK-you got me with this one Frannie-starting off with the late 80s carrera then the very nice 356!!!
I have a 1963 356 junker(very bad)-but some day maybe I'll be able to drive it. Hey a boy can dream???
Great video Franny. The suspense of waiting for the engine to fire was agonizing!
I am now a new sub from Canada, was directed by a video of Nick's. Looking forward to viewing all your videos.
Great videos on the 356C. Thank you.
What a beautiful 356, I love it.
that Starter has to be smokin' hot !!
Actually, I just started the car last night and moved it for my next video and the starter was barely even warm. Starting and stopping them is a bit worse and tougher on the solenoid...
The next 356 video I will be installing a relay for the ignition switch which will help protect the ignition switch. That is a part I don't want to burn up! Thanks for watching! Franny
The 356 is my favourite Porsche, such a beautiful car! Yours looks amazing :)
Thanks! That car is really special. If I could have picked out a 356 new, that is exactly what I would have bought. I love the "A" cars, T2 (1958), has to be ivroy with a red interior. A "Normal" ("Damen" German for lady) because the Normal, while only being 60hp, has 80ft-lbs ot torque and the "S" makes its extra 15hp in the upper RPM. So the Normal is easier to drive and better around town and tight roads in the mountains. ...And of course, the Cabriolet with its padded top and big back window. The Speedster had no crank windows and no padding anywhere - it just wasn't a GT car. The Convertible D was a little better, but the Cabs were the top of the line. I could go on and on... I'm sure I will ;) Franny
Amazing car
Thank you! Thanks for coming to our channel. Heidi
What a beautiful car, paint looks like new, keep well.
steffydog1 wow. Thanks. My mom had the car repainted in 1990. It's held up well. Heidi
Ah I see, well she's a credit to her keepers.
Glad she fired up in the end, I was willing her too, hahahha.
Always good to check the engine bay for rodents, my bikes often sit for a few months over winter, too much salt on the roads. So I check too, I've known people's bikes not start post winter, as rodents (mice), have nested in the engine area, and gnawed through the wiring lomb!
+steffydog1 yes. It's good advice about checking for rodents and we do. We do get them, but the lifts help by elevating the car off the ground. It would be very hard for them to climb up the slippery surface (I am sure they would find a way though). We try to at least start the cars once a month and run around a bit even if just through our neighbourhood. This helps the possibility of nests and it also is better for the car. If keeps your seals moist too (now, just starting the car is a whole different topic.). You have to get the engine warm. Heidi
Also from Nick's channel (I should leave a comment on his saying I came from here; that would be great!). Anyways what a great channel and production value. You both are amazing and I love your personalities. The card aren't bad either. Keep it up. Can't wait for more videos as they come.
+kemnik1 yea! Welcome to our channel. We will have another video tomorrow. Hopefully you subscribed and will enjoy the show. Heidi
Sweet rides and nice production! 😎🇩🇪🚙
Thank you for making these videos. I used had to wait a while for our 56 coupe to start too but when I've been charging the battery it starts almost instantly
neilbardsley we keep this car on a tender as well. The carbs are just dry. Heidi
Beautiful car!!! Now pre-oiling the engine is not a bad idea but not necessary if you use a good grade oil and the car has only be sitting a couple of months as she mentioned. The bearings are what you're concerned about. Further, that engine should have popped off before all the cranking but I'm not as familiar with the fuel system in this car. My classic pops off after a few rollovers after sitting a month or so!!!
Really great starting top, I have the same issue with my 63. 356 in fact, I tend to pop a cap full of petrol down
Each carburettor and it starts almost instantly! Regards Peter
Hi Peter, first off, I want to thank you, I appreciate your thoughts, but in this case, I would not recommend doing the petrol trick. I hope you have a fire extinguisher nearby for your own engine, because starting it with all that extra gas could potentially cause a carburetor fire. I have seen people do this trick in the past, but as Franny said before, it is best to wait on the filling of the carburetors to make sure that the engine has plenty of time to have the oil flowing through it before it starts running. If you want an instant start for your car, probably the best option is an electric fuel pump or a manual primer pump. Thanks again for your comment. Love to see your '63 someday. Heidi
Heidi and Franny's Garage , many thanks Heidi, will try your starting technique accordingly! Kind regards, Peter (England)
Just a great looking car !
Great video I am in LOVE with your 356 TKY for the ride. Vincent from florida
Sure Vincent. More rides to come very soon. Glad you enjoyed. Welcome to our channel. Heidi
That's quite a garage. I haven't seen one outfitted so thoroughly like that. I need to look through your videos to see if you've made many about that Ferrari. Quite an icon from my youth. I hope its holding together well.
Yes, we do! In fact, I am actually editing a video on all the work we have had done and the costs. I hope to get it out in a few days.
Oh, and we have a new addition to the garage as well. Check out some of our latest videos for that.
Beautiful garage \m/
+Adilson thank you! Heidi
Love me a good cold start. 🏁
Beatyful car!!! And Beatyful Franny!!!!
What a pretty car. You should drive it more
I just love your custom license plates! Do you have any of the cars registered as historic vehicles? Your channel is one of my favorites on TH-cam :-D edit: I just saw that Miss Eva is a “collector vehicle”-I’m guessing that is equivalent to a historic vehicle in Colorado
Great video well explain i hope you can do more cold starts franny
really love your videos great content and edit 😀
Thank you so much. Franny is a great editor and I know she will read this comment as well. She likes doing the 'flippy' transitions and such, but just a taste. She doesn't want to make you all sick of them. Heidi Welcome to our channel. Heidi
Me gusta cómo trabajan.
Great camera angles!
Thanks John! Yeah, funny it starts with the 3.2 ;) but then the Queenie reveal with Miss Eva coming down off her pedestal. I think we need to do more like this :) Next for me is adding a starter relay. Hope to get that out soon.
Thanks Rocket John!
What I do is grind the gear off an old distributer, like an 050, and then put a drill on the end and spin that, this lubricates the engine without turning it over. you might consider a spritz of ether and or a spray bottle with a little gas and 2 stroke pre mix, all it does is lubricate stuff.
Hey Franny!
Thx dir your wonderful Channel!
Wished you could make a video about vintage Opel's that got imported in the 60's in 70's!!!
Greetings from Germany!!! :*
We would love to find an Opel. Colorado has good classic cars, but I have not seen one in years.
Heidi and Franny's Garage: Thx for that nice and fast answer!
Hope you'll get an opel in future to review.
Opel's like the GT and the Kadett were made in my hometown Bochum in germany. Sadly GM closed the plants in Bochum in 2014 and i miss that part of my childhood and that big part of history of my hometown.
That would be sweet! I've always liked the Opel GT.
Love your channel! :) The more i watch your 356's videos, the more i wanna get that car :) such a beauty! Sending ya all the love from Europe!
+Signe Kruzmane that's very sweet. Where are you in Europe?
All the way in northern Europe - Latvia, to be more specific.
+Signe Kruzmane I see. I have extended family in Germany and Belgium. I was curious. I have never been to your country. Hopefully someday! If you haven't had the opportunity (if you are new to the channel) please check out our four part series on acquiring Miss Eva. We put it out last week. Heidi
Heidi and Franny's Garage i think i've caught up with pretty much all of your videos in the passed few days and been enjoying them! Have an awesome week both of you! Looking forward to the next video!
+Signe Kruzmane awesome!
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Great content...as always.
Regarding the old carbs, lines and seals: Do you use the new gas with ethanol? Are the valve seats hardened to prevent damage from the lack of lead? Do you use Sta-Bil in your gas since the car sits so long between drives?
Nice car! I would do a 12V conversion and an electric pump (you can always turn it off to turn over the engine without starting.)..that 6V starter struggles.
It sounds like that, but the 6V just turns at 1/2 speed of the 12V. I've never had an issue with the starter. I am careful to keep the battery in good charge though. F
Jay leno mentions a company that takes your 6 volt generator and turn s it into a 6 volt alternator.
Cute shoes
Love your videos !!
Thanks!
That 356 is so beautiful!!! Ivory?
+christurbo951 yes.
I think the better option would be to remove air filters and pour fuel down the carbys .you would be overhead the leads and over loading the battery.
That is crazy dangerous! You can have a carb fire. Too many cars lost to that. I had the starter rebuilt recently and after 60+ years was just fine. The solenoid had gone bad. So it is the switching that did it in and not the running. The battery can handle it. If you want to break it up into a couple segments you can do that but that doubles the cycles on the solenoid and that is the part that failed.
Hello, Ladies!! Outstanding Channel!! I'm a new subscriber thanks to Nick Murray... Keep up the Great Work.... Regards, J.T.
Thanks JT! Welcome! More coming soon :)
dont know why the carby bowls would be empty even after 2 months unless you ran the car withfuel tap off! yes i do like electric fuel pumps cheap easy to replace and reliable, all my vw cars have been converted over to this system, and have never looked back!
Also I was thinking of the TT with the TDI engine, which is not available in the US.
I like very much your Carlift...What Brand is that..? Seems not complex at all
Hi Bernard. It's a direct lift and we put a video together just for you! It's right here. Hope you enjoy. Heidi
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Hi Heidi and Franny! Congratulations for your YT Channel! Its amazing!
Have you a LED light in your rear lights? Is was very beautiful!
I'm from Brazil and my car is a 1972 VW Beetle "Fusca" 1500cc. I have LED rear lights too.
Cheers, and sorry my english, ;)
Thanks Rodrigo! Yes, LEDs for tail lights. The originals are so dim you hardly know they are on. I had a couple 1972 Bugs. Loved those cars!
Wow, and I thought my 1962 B T6 S90 was a slow cold starter.
What's the oil light? What does it tell you if it's on or off? Also, did you do anything a minute into the motor turning over to get it to fire or did it really just take that long on its own?
The oil light (green light) is an oil pressure light for the end of the oil line. If it is on, then there is no pressure, off is no pressure. So, in the video, during the cranking and it will remain on until oil completes it cycle thru the engine. Yes, it really takes about a minute, it was very cold and carbs were dry, so yes, it takes time. Franny
Amazing. Thanks!
With that wonderful garage setup, I'm surprised you don't start it up every couple of weeks, but I enjoyed the video. Is there any particular reason why you chose that 356?
Hi Charles, We usually do drive the car once a month or so in the winter, but we had a stretch of yucky weather and Colorado just switched away from gravel to salt. Not sure which is worst... It just got away from us so I thought a drive was in order. I only need to start the car like that a couple times a year. So, the car is a family car and has been in Heidi's family since 1961! We need to do an intro video on the car soon. It is amazing to drive - even today. Just love that thing! Thanks for the comment! Franny
How about suspension cam? Front and rear with its own light. Perhaps compare air cooled 911 rear to 356 rear.
Powinien lepiej zapalać,wszystko sprawne jest? Kilka takich startów i rozrusznik z akumulatorem do wymiany.
again, very nice, wouldn't mind garage like this.. it's that a gto up there?
That would be sweet!! It is an '85 308QV Euro... So close! (not really...)
Would you consider doing a review of the Audi TT, which is lot like the 356?
What year? New or PO? Heidi
I suppose 2018, did Audi make the TT with the TDI in previous years? I was really enthused about getting a TT with the TDI and then Volkwagen/Audi messed with the EPA and it is gone , now. The performance and handling, with great fuel mileage really seemed like a winner.
How often do you have to rebuild/replace the starter?
The solenoid was rebuilt once in 60 years. The starter is from factory.
@@HeidiandFranny wow fantastic! Speaks to the quality of these cars. Great video!
just wondering, why hold the clutch down if the car is in neutral??
Al Hodge Hi Al, that is just to reduce the work the starter had to do. No need spinning the transmission too. That is the same reason for pressing the gas pedal half way as well. Franny
THIS COLD START USE A LOT BATTERY POWER ! SHOULD BE TAKE BRAND NEW BATTERY !
BY THE WAY CLASSIC PORSCHE 356-A SPEEDSTER IS MY BEST FAVORITE CAR !
Do you only review Porsche and Ferrari ?
No, but that is what is in the garage. We have reviews for a Saab 900, MINI Roadster and a Lambo Urus. Heidi is editing a Cayman video but will be reviewing more as she starts her new series.
Let me guess who's drivin' .. :)
We both drove the car that day. Heidi
Wow..what's the deal with the huge haunted house across the street with all the garbage spread out?
+ZerokillerOppel1 I honestly have no idea what you are referring to. Heidi
that's snow not garbage
Good way to not only kill your starter,but your battery,as well.definitely not the right way to do it.
Actually, it isn't tough on the starter at all. I was a little worried about the ignition switch, but I just did video on installing a relay for that so check that out. Even after a long start like that the starter is barely warm. It is original and still runs great after almost 60 years. Maybe other cars have weak starters, just not this car. To be fair, the manual would rather you don't run it for more than 20-30 sec or so, but without the starter relay you can do more damage to the switch with that 40A initial pull from the solenoid. The oil light will stay on for more than 30 sec and that is my biggest concern. Way easier to rebuild a starter than an engine and this engine has over 100K miles on it. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching! Franny
Thank you for posting this video. My wife and I have recently inherited her Uncle's 1963 Porsche 356B which he purchased new. I found the driver's manual which has been very helpful and a manila file folder with every receipt of service or repair and includes the original purchase contract. What I didn't receive was any instructions from her Uncle on the starting procedure. Again, thanks for posting this it has helped a lot.
I forgot to add, he had a starter button installed which will take the abuse of such a long start off of the key starter. Turn it to ignition, then press the start button. I found it by accident while pushing and prodding the functions of the various knobs and controls before I found the driver's manual in the passenger map pocket.
Why did it take so long to start?
After a couple/few weeks the carbs will completely dry out and the small fuel pump then has to fill both float chambers. It takes a surprising amount of time because the lobe on the distributor drive shaft the pump drives from is only on one side of the shaft.
But,... In that time the engine (which has also been sitting) is getting lubricated.
can you do a revving video
Hmmm... It doesn't really "rev" ;) I'll get some more engine noise though. It can actually be hard to get the temperature up on the car in the colder weather. I'll see what I can do ;) Thanks, Franny
Heidi and Franny's Garage haha that's funny (it doesn't really Rev). How would you describe how the engine feels compared to a more modern revvy one?
and why dont you make a short brake between cranking? Is it always start at first try ore sometimes dying after start or something. Tell me that would be great:)
That is a good suggestion. The reason I stay on it is that the solenoid can pull up to 40A initially, but that drops a lot quickly so I didn't want to subject the ignition switch to that much current over and over. I just installed a starter switch relay so now I can take a brake ;) Thanks for watching!
i like it very much to whach your clip. it would be great if you could make another one with this car.:)
Could you please make a cold start with this cars in same shoes like last one for me??:-) I would be soo hapy
what a great clip. i like cranking vids very much and yours is very real and softly. i like your sexy shoes on pedals too. Could you next time after a long rest make a clip with closed doors and watching you outside starting cranking it? Thank your very much for posting.
majortom80 the problem is the car needs to start to get outside! Thanks for the feedback.
im so sorry, my english is not so good im from germany. I mean the same clip like this but without talking to someone. Im looking foword to see you soon crank this car in thos sexy shoes:)
majortom80 ahhh. Sehr gut
thank you...are your feet sweaty in this shoes:-)?
majordomo lol getting a little fetishy are we?
Ciao heidi you pump always like this when the far wont start?
Hi,
I am sorry to say that you are getting exactly the opposite result to your objective. An engine does not have oil pressure while cranking so, apart from excessively using the starting motor, the engine is likely suffering a premature wear.
It the carbs get empty so fast is probably due to a bad sealing. But apart from that, you could install a bleeder on the line which can be easily hidden anywhere to prime them manually before cranking if you do not want to install an electric pump.
cicli If that is true then why does the oil light go out? The oil does circulate through the engine - the pump is mechanical...
All zenith carb'd 356s will be dry within two weeks. There have been several attempts to remedy that over the years, but nothing that works well. If you would like to have yours start faster, then I suggest an electrical pump.
We do not know at which pressure is set the oil light as to turn off, I recommend you plugging a pressure gauge on the pump/block if there is the option just to know the actual value.
When I say that there is no pressure while crancking means not enough pressure. When the oil is cold the pressure is higher, but you also need higher pressure to get the oil into the parts. It has nothing to do a pressure of 25 psi, for example, with cold oil than with hot oil.
It is just my recommendation, same as other have written on the comments. I feel that this is not a good practice.
but it's not the original engine
au contraire, but it is the original engine... Verified by the COA. What makes you think it is not?
Start engine!!!!!! Poor start engine.....