HOW TO TAPE MARCHING DRUMSTICKS | Grid Book Tips For Drumming
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ม.ค. 2018
- A beginner's guide to taping marching drumsticks. Check out the info below to learn more. Enjoy!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:17 Materials
00:39 Why Should I Tape My Sticks?
01:27 Drumstick Anatomy
02:09 Tape Zones
04:45 Tape Threading
05:53 What Direction Should I Tape?
06:06 When Should I Re-Tape?
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DISCLAIMER:
There are thousands of ways to tape your sticks! Taping from the top down, taping from the bottom up, multi-colored, triple wrap, different thread patterns, taping parallel to the stick instead of threading, taping once a season, taping on show days, the list goes on! This video just provides a few ways we love taping our sticks, but there are many more! Happy stick taping friends!
What is your favorite way to tape? Leave a comment below!
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STICKS USED:
PROMARK - Scott Johnson Signature System Blue Sticks (TXDC17W)
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The gap and full stick are also used to maintain the original weight distribution of the stick by adding tape to the back.
and to protect for back shots
Congrats on ur I&E bro
I see that this is all referred to drumlines, but does it work to play drums or will make it too heavy?
@@JoeyRam. if I understand you correctly...people tend not to tape drum set sticks, although you could if you wanted. These marching sticks are definitely too big and heavy for drum set, though. They could easily break the heads and cymbals.
@@cameroncavender I understand what you mean, I play with 5A sticks. I'll be experimenting with it and see how it feels, because sanding and painting
will make them thinner and weaker. They might look better on camera 😅 I'll let you know how it goes 🤞🏻
Thanks for your reply. Good night.
I’m really glad you created this video!! While it isn’t of much use to me now, I remember looking up videos of how to tape sticks when I first started and didn’t find a whole lot of useful information. This is exactly the video I needed then, and I’m so glad that one has finally been made. current and future percussionists everywhere are shook!!
Yay!! This means so much! We have been getting requests for this video for a long time. So hyped it is finally out in the world! Hopefully it will offer a reference for new students and inspire more exploration in the way we tape our sticks! Thanks for the feedback! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
"This, is a drum stick"
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oh my god
It includes just the tip...
He said it so profoundly too lol
dude with your profile pic tho it's perfect
I always tape from top to bottom for two reasons. 1) If the tape starts coming unstuck, it makes a little flap at the top, and then you have to tape the flap, or redo everything. 2) If you need some emergency tape in a pinch for something else, you can just cut or break it off the bottom.
Nice!! We usually make sure the tape is not wrapped too tight so it doesn't stretch or flap up, and the emergency stick tape comes from the butt of the stick if you leave the gap at the fulcrum! But 100% correct for the tape design you mentioned! Thanks so much for the feedback! 🙏🏽
What about... F L E X T A P E
To show you the power of FLEX TAPE.... I hit 9000 Rimshots with this drumstick! Covered ONLY in Flex tape!
@@nadivkaspi6211 imagine everything that YOU can do with the power of Flex Tape ®
I just sawed this stick in half
This is so funny bruh
u are a waste of carbon
music sounds like rdavidr
Yeah! Old School Hip Hop instrumentals are where it's at!!
Love that guy.
Yeah it brought some comfortable familiarity to the video
Chuki beats
Oh man, new tape job every block? Bit too rich for my blood lol
Haha I feel you! We don't make them re-tape the entire stick each block! But if your tape has been cut up, I recommend a fresh re-tape of the shot zone. (This is where the "Bottom Up" technique comes in handy) Plus I always have like 5 rolls of tape in my drum bag for anyone who needs it. I found it helps keep the sticks around for a lot longer! Then we do a FULL re-tape for show days.
Why don't you just have show sticks for show days. It doesn't matter how often you retape, a new pair of sticks will always sound better than something that's been used for months.
Its like that because usually in you only really tape the sticks starting in high school when everything gets more crazy. So we use concert sticks, i have a set of marching, and we use the kinda big ones its like a medium with the sphere shaped tip
And also when you march you have marching sticks and only marching sticks if you are playing snare. And i think some schools let you have to option to do concert band, marching, or both. Ik mine does but I only applied for marching.
Cool!
I usually tape the full stick because I feel like I get better grip. Using your terminology, I half overlap up until the shot zone and double from there. 👍🏼
A multi thread, diggin it! Does that effect the overall balance of the stick? Sounds like it might make the front end more heavy? Let us know!
wouldn't covering only the shot area or front half also distort the balance in the same way? I think so.
Grid Book Percussion he probably cokes up on the stick a little bit and it probably evens out
Another way to do “the double wraps”, is start from the top, make your way down, then make your way back up like a spiral, making sure to keep your overlaps super thin so the stick doesn’t get heavy. Super cool pattern too.
Fun fact: “The gap” tape style is also referred to as “missing hand.”
Fun fact: no one asked
@@isaacsilva4301 fun fact, no one cares about your reply
@@chillycoldchomper9389 fun fact: clearly u do cause u replied
@@isaacsilva4301 fun fact: that is true, I'll give you that
I asked
"that about wraps it up"
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Just saw this as soon as I entered mine so you win
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It's really interesting seeing tips and/or instructions for different instruments. I personally play trumpet & french horn but I still really like to see things about other instruments
A sign of a great student!!
I've been looking for videos on taping marching sticks for ever! Thank you!
This is so great to hear! Worked hard on this one, so glad you like it! 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Man I'm glad this video is out! I couldn't wait for its release and I'm glad I heard about it 😃 I'm passing this on for my homies for sure! 👊
YAY! Thanks for always making us feel like we matter Sophia! You have no idea how much comments like this inspire us to keep making videos!
At my school we tape from the bead to the thick blue line just past the 'promark', so about halfway across the stick.
YESS. FINALLY. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME🥁🔥
Thank you!! I know you've been waiting for this one! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I do full double layer but I never did that pattern before, it’s interesting and I’ll be trying it next time
Very informative I didn't know there was that much to taping drumsticks
Was up and was thinking I should re-tape my sticks, great info OG 👨🏾💻☘️🥁
Thanks bro!!
I taped my sticks differently. I taped the shot zone, left the shaft, balance point, and most of the butt untaped. I then put a ring of tape as close to the end of the butt as possible without the tape folding. I taped just enough to keep the balance of the stick right. I’ve seen Ralph Nader use this method and it is very effective.
Coastercam123 I actually talked to Ralph about the way he tapes his sticks, he said the reason him and Harvey tape their sticks that way is because when they would use more tape in videos the heavy amount of white tape made the sticks look blurry and choppy (pun intended, kinda) so they started using less tape to keep it from looking blurry in videos.
Ever heard of c l e a r stick tape?
First ever video I saw from gridbook, still useful to this day lol
My drumline usually tapes with strips of tape that go from the balance point to the bead. It allows us to peel easier and control how much is covered with weight and layers and all that. Great video!
Thanks, this helps a lot!
Yes!!!! You tape as tightly as I do!! It lasts much longer than how I see people tape. I play sticktape.com tape which is more expensive and takes a while to ship, but it doesn’t split the same way as 3M, is grippier, and lasts soooo much longer than scotch. Cheers!
This reminds me of one of my first parades on Tenors. I had two brand new tenor sticks that needed to be taped, and as I walked into the percussion storage room, I find the center snare finishing off the last roll of electrical tape on his sticks. The next best thing I had was a stick worth of black/camo "extra-durable" duct tape. Thick and heavy... It was such a mistake... I love looking back at my beginner stages and cringing at the things I used to do.
Haha Love it! Must have felt like logs!
Great vid! It actually really helps!
YAY! That is so great to hear! Thank you!
Thanks!
Oddly, my hands slip easier when I have the wood on the stick. So, now, I often tape my stick completely with a half overlap, done twice (one coverage going left and another coverage going right). I like the grooves created by the overlaps and I feel adds more friction to my grip.
That's not odd at all! Everyone will have a different feel to things. And that tape thread sounds cool! Thanks for the feedback!
I was taught by someone who marched in the Mark Thurston lines in the 90’s. They would use racquetball tape in the gap. Worked great.
Nice!! I've done that with my drum set sticks, but not marching. Gotta try that! Thanks for the feed back!
I once used Gaffer’s tape to tape a pair of sticks...it worked, but it felt weird, I’m not even sure how to describe it 😂
Great tips, I have been taping sticks for marching bands for over 20 years and we change our tape every week for football season and every other parade during Mardi Gras. What we would do is just cover over shoulder part mostly for parades. Cool video
Nice!! The Mardi Gras parades get so turnt, lol. Thanks so much for the feedback!
Love the D4Darius Title reading.
Omg I'm so happy you caught that! D4Darious is our hero! This is our first animated tutorial video and wanted to try that style! I think it came out cool! So much learning happened on the back end to make this video. lol
6:20 - no pun intended I hope
I personally tape just over halfway down the stick with a full wrap. Allows for a little room after the fulcrum for various hand grips on the stick while giving a nice full cover area for all my shots.
Probably on my own here, but I hit it up with a triple wrap in the upper third for playing tenors
Whenever I'm taping sticks for myself I like to tape about halfway between (in your terms) a thin and a half overlap, and I do something similar to the "balance point with gap" style, except on the shaft I stop about 2 inches above the balance point so that none of my hand is touching tape. I just find it more beneficial if my fingers are touching wood (when holding traditional) as opposed to just my fulcrum. Probably doesn't look quite as good in a line setting but our director isn't super picky about what our rehearsal sticks look like as long as our show sticks look good
I always start off half way up the stick and got to the bead, then I tape a second layer on the shot zone. I play tenors, and I prefer a more forward feeling stick. My school also uses the famous Paul Rennick sticks with the rubber on the butt, so I normally put 3 inches of tape on the butt for those rare occasions when we use that end.
I use System Blues with Tape all the way to the Thick Blue Line its the best for all over playing
I like the video I didn't know why people taped I thought it just for fun and decoration but now I know
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I put pine tar on the webbing part between my pointer and thumb while doing traditional
So happy this was uploaded on my birthday😁
Jordan Strachan Happy birthday man!
I’m actually a girl but thanks
🤣my bad
Ayyy! Happy Birthday!!
I did this with a pair of pro-mark Sean Vegas; tape from the tip down to the line so you can see the line, it looks really cool, (my opinion) especially if the whole group does it.
At my school we all used Promark and for uniformity we started at the bottom stripe. We would also do mostly white with thin orange and black spirals (school colors orange and black). For homecoming and special events though we would do some crazy shit with the designs. Barbershop pole for Armed Forces Appreciation night.
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Awesome video. I've seen some tape jobs where the sticks were taped end-to-end, but rather than wrapping, they ran several lengths of tape down the length of the stick, slightly overlapped on each edge (each line is parallel to the stick). Not something I'd use or recommend, but the guys who used it said it held up the same and was easy to replace.
Haha Yeah, never used vertical threading in any ensemble but that is definitely a way people do it!! Thanks so much for the kind words!
I like your editing
Thanks so much! This was our first time animating a video like this, so there is lots left to learn! But we really like this style! Excited to make more!
I prefer the gap for snare, but on tenor I prefer only the shot zone. In many instances I've tapped my sticks in a way similar to Top Secret for balance and visuals.
Awesome video and interesting perspective. Personally I tape from top to bottom, but I’ll try it the other way next time.
Both ways are valid! Try it out and let us know what you think!
For our show this year, we each had two colors. It was either green, pink, blue, or yellow on top of white.
Hmmmmm Great Idea
This is very helpful but I like to take the whole stick but leave a small gap between the shoulder and the shot zone. It makes it easier to replace the tap on the shot zone
Thank you so much for the informations about taping
Do you mind if I take some of your info to my language.
I tape differently depending on the weight and balance of the stick. With the new Vic Firth SRCs, I tape pretty heavily up top to compensate for the light and long taper. I tape pretty sparingly on the John Mapes tenor sticks, though, because they're durable and pretty forward heavy.
Nice!! Those Mapes are great sticks!
Big fan
And we are big fans of you too!! Dude, keep killing it! You have such an awesome aesthetic, keep it up!
why has this chan only got 7k !!!!!! its dope af
Haha That means a lot man! Thank you for the support and kind words!
I play a drumset and when I do rim shots, I use just a little longer shot zone, is that okay to tape?
Yeah it's fine you could tape the whole stick if needed
i do the double layer, with a smaller gap, just for the fulcrum. some kids have a slightly different fulcrum zone right to left hand, so i leave the gap a little wider, maybe 2 inches. also im pretty meticulous with the double layer, as soon as i get 1 horizontal wrap, i start angling down at a 45 degree angle, and that way each line is even all the way down. if i notice i start getting the straight line / angle, back n fourth, I stop and go back. thanks for the info!
Nice!! Great comment!
I usually go for a fulcrum gap, taping away from the fulcrum, with a SUPER THIN overlap (0.5 - 1 mm) (saves tape and gets decent resonance while staying uniform), then transferring to double wrap a little before the shoulder all the way to the bead. Still trying to find the optimum tightness to tape with tho (too tight makes it more prone to tearing and fraying, decreasing its overall durability).
Awesome feedback dude! Thank you!!
My school has always done double wrapping but it is possible to get the lines uniform length instead of a skinny-long-skinny-long pattern. They both look cool in my opinion, great video!
Nathan Bryk It's possible for sure, but it is really hard haha. It's what I do, when you start moving down the stick, you have to have the perfect angle so that it fits the line and overlaps. Then you have to continue to keep that perfect angle. It's pretty tedious, but I enjoy the look.
For sure! A nice double wrap up or down the stick at a single angle has a cool thread design to it! Thanks so much for the kind words!
Lol my school is so low budget we don’t even overlap until shot zone. It’s just a crisscross pattern up until then
As a tenor player I like to tape the shot zone but am thinking about switching to the gap
Lol I always tape halfway in between the shot zone and to the fulcrum. With the stick I use it looks right to do that and gives more protection just in case I’m lazy somedays
Lol I need a whole video on just double wrapping sticks with the designed pattern
I used to tape to the fulcrum but now I only do the shot zones and I always make my overlap as thin as possible. I also used to tape from the bead down because that's how everyone said you have to do it but I hated how the tape would keep peeling up so now I do bottom to top
I taped from the bead down for so many years!! But I found it was way easier to re-tape just the shot zone when you tape from the bottom up. Just gotta make sure there is a clean tear at the top so it stays smooth near the bead! Thanks for the feedback and nice username!! haha
TheGridBookSeries Thanks 😂
I usually do tip-half, and the minimal coverage
Halloween week rehearsals call for black and orange mix threading.
I never knew tapping styles had a name. I still have my “Double Wrapped” sticks from my last year of marching in college from 1996. I just called it wrapping with no gaps.
Nice! This is just what we call them as a teaching tool. Wrapping with no gaps works too!
I use the gap for tenors in highschool
Question anybody know if you can or should do this to drumsticks 5B for drum set or does it ruin your symbols
If you’re playing with promark system blues, bless you. It’s like playing with hammers
Bass drum player here. I usually tape the entire mallet in black electrical tape, wrapping the top below the top of the mallet so that I don't damage the wood when I do rim knocks. Then, to help with mallet positioning, I wrap the butt quarter of the mallet in red tape.
Cool!!
es una cinta especial o es la cinta aisladora que se usa para cables de electricidad ??
When I was on tenors I did tape to the balance point and stuck with that all through highschool.
NICE!!
Yep, this is bucket
Does it change the sound on the ring?
Was that an Ayala 2017 in the lot preview from Gridbook????
Haha yes! We will be making a 2017 In The Lot video with Ayala soon! Stay tuned!
@TheGridBookSeries still waiting.. lol that preview peaked my interest. Don't tease me like that haha 😂
1:14 is that Joseph Grippo second from the left?
Hi there, I prefer the handmade B-sticks, also organic - and you dont need to tape them....... they are pretty strong.....
and give the best sound - let's rock and roll - See them at @t
Happy New Year to you all out there ....... lets make some noise out there.....
I have promark SD1 maple and I don’t want to wreck them as they are my solo/concert orchestra/brass band snare sticks. I’m doing a duet that requires using a rim shot or a wood block should I tape them?
If the sticks are getting really shredded, maybe try it out and see how it feels! Use this as a time to experiment!
Personally I tape about 1/2 threading and start the tape right after promarks double blue line
straight
I do a half overlap style and I tape to the double bar on the stick (I use promark sticks so this may not make sense for some)
Nice!!
Is it okay to start near at the balance point when taping? I find it much comfortable wraping that way.
Yes! Use any way you want! Whatever works best for you and your needs!
Where’d you buy that stick
I play drumset, would you recommend taping sticks for drumset? Btw, I play Vic Firth 5A American Classic.
We don't personally use tape on drumset sticks. But you can try it!
I use a full overlap
My favorite is to do “the gap” and then put white athletic tape in the gap.
I use badminton grip tapes
I personally like the look of the full taped stick, so that my choice. to me its a visual thing
Great choice! Thanks for sharing!
Great video, you should do one on tenor sticks and bass mallets. That would help my piers and I a lot. I don’t think all sticks should be taped like snare sticks😂
There are no "Set Rules" for taping tenor or bass sticks, but typically Tenor Sticks use tape anywhere between the balance point and the shot zone and bass mallets tape from the fulcrum to the mallet head. Tenor and Bass implements usually leave the grip area exposed. Again, there are many ways to do this, but these tape methods can be applied to both stick types! Hope this helps! Have a great day!
Question would any of these techniques work for a drum kit player?
@@alexfishh6094 No, I meant taping the sticks. Are these good ideas for kit players to do to their sticks
Have you used the ScoJo system blue's? I thought you would've use those. They have a great feel
Wait never mind i see those baby's!
Yesss! Such a good stick! Been really loving the Promark Sticks lately, amazing lineup and great quality!
I use to use full tape until i got blisters now as a current snare player i only tape to shot zones
4:59 mans was eating hot cheetos or takis while playing 😂😂😭😭
That stick had been sitting in a drum bag for months, so who knows what it could be lol... But now that you mention it, I want hot Cheetos.
You mentioned there was other ways to tape the sticks where could I find the other ways?
Not sure of any complete resource for this but a lot of it will come from experience, watching videos on youtube, asking other drummer friends, etc. Different people tape sticks differently and at a certain point taping your sticks becomes an art form, and like anything in art, it is open to unlimited creativity. Keep experimenting!!
How will you start in double taping?pks do a video
One thing to consider is that tape will break the easiest where it is overlapped. It's because the tape is being stretched more and is being pulled at a higher tension. A one layer thin tape will actually last longer than double taping!
Interesting perspective! You are correct that the tension of the tape is a key factor in it's integrity, but from our experience, you can adjust tensions of the wrap to compensate for the multiple layers. So if you tape with an overlap but maintain the same tension as a single ply wrap the multiple layers won't be stretched and will provide more protection because the rim has to tear through more than one layer. Thanks for the feedback!
Can anyone tell me what sticks the blue devils use and y one of them has rubber/black tips
Maybe the PROMARK System Blue Scott Johnson "ScoJo" Rubber Tip Practice Sticks?
@thegridbookseries What’s your favorite way to tape the stick
Depends on the use! Form follows function!
I have a question, my drumstick’s head snapped through the middle. Would tape hold that together?
I would recommended you get some new sticks. You don’t want the head flying off while you’re playing.
That about WRAPS it up😂😂😂 puns