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Explain me why they fix other iron sight but broke it completely for M3 grease guns? Also why stg is AR and for assaulters while M2 the stg counter part is not AR and it's not assaulters weapon even it's PDW ??? I lack logic in the game and if they gonna release it at this state the players just leave or didint even try the game it will be an exodus, us also missing higher tier anti tank weapons
@@JaHail-oy6vq jagdtiger is overkill bro they cant do that a kingtiger is hard enough to destroy imagine a jadgiger grayzoning you cant do shit against that
As an Axis high tier main, I've lately noticed that I'm the only one building rallies, people using STARTER weapons at BR 5 and people with 9 squad deaths at the end of the game with only 4 kills.
Another problem is that German players get divided among soviet and US queues, not so much a problem in low tier but high tier is f-ing crippled due to it, since most of the times there's 2 or 3 tier V players, and the rest of the team is tier III, making them have to fight about 5 or 6 high tier soviets/Americans, and that's simply an incredibly hard fight to win
I retired from enlisted I loved the game but the campaign merg and the fact they keep adding tanks like the tiger 2 h and is2 1944 are just so annoying it was fun while it lasted tbh
@@AKUJIVALDO Except WoT and WoWS is made by a completely different dev. If you mean War Thunder than yeah, people complain Germany suffers, but it's untrue there as well.
War thunder doesn't have much of a bias. It exists, but at the same time. You still see kids go around a corner and get sniped by a tiger 2. The snail bias kicks in when an IS2 shows up.
@lsing6406 in war thunder* shocking news dont try to cry about soviet or any kinds of biast when you don't even bother to learn the f'ing game kid. simply skill issue on your part. "You still see kids go around a corner and get sniped by a tiger 2. " oddly specific I don't want to jump to conclusion but I bet you where those people who did exactly that.
As someone who made the mistake of starting as Japan a month or so ago….I was not aware you could win matches for quite a while. I assumed the point was just to see how long you could delay the loss. It feels a tad better now, but that was a brutal start. I spent most matches wishing it would have just let me keep playing against bots for a while longer
Japan is hands down the worst faction, _especially_ in lower battle rankings where you get to pick between an open top tank the enemy snipers can hit you inside, or a tank that won't let you shoot the turret and the machinegun at the same time as they're separate positions. All against proper US light tanks of course. Not to mention Japans first planes entire loadout is 4 bombs and it takes you 45 seconds just to get out of the water
@@ReikerForgeThe plane thing did not become apparent to me until I started playing other factions. Jumping into the Russian starting plane I thought "Wait, you just start in the air?" followed by "oh god, the weapons are so much better..." I have stopped playing Japan, as a result.
@@YoungClarke the issue is, a lot of japanese starting equipment is from the 1930s, fighting against american stuff, from the 1940s. as such there is such a massive technological problem.
Japan after second battle rating is kinda over powered against waves of americans. I started japan after it was released, they suffered so much but after adding br's its easier to play
I am a German main before and after the merge. Back then we were Blitzkrieging the match and it felt to easy to grind points. Now we are literally being stormed by US paratroopers with US Thompsons, Bazookas, and P-47s from every direction. Some of these players have some eagle eyes pointing out the perfect coordinates.
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I call this the see-saw phenomenon - one side carries the most weight and then forces the other to be lighter (and easier to play), but once something comes up it always come back down for the other side. Germany will probably see a resurgence once the steam version releases.
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I'm from the future and got the free release from steam started as an All American we would every now and then get smashed on by the Axis but one thing I noticed different factions will be good at different time zones. Pretty much prime time Europe would be smashing and primetime Asian pacific time they smash us Americans I was home all last week playing so I got to get a feel on the algorithms.
I remember when the Italian paratroopers came out. When it happened the couple months between that and the merge it was almost impossible to win as Tunisia allies
I never fought the Italian paras. I was playing Berlin and honestly didn't even know about that event. Don't know what was going on but I missed the whole thing. Last time I played Tunisia was when it was an axis slaughterhouse with nothing but 300 kill allied games for anyone who knew their way around a Lee Enfield and a radio operator
Playerbase < Matchmaking TBH Stacked players should face other stacked players in a game(should be mandatory), not solo players facing a stack of sweats on the opposing side unless they have a stacked team on their side. Players with specific battle-rank should be distributed evenly and not engage against a bunch of marshals or generals from the other team while you get newbies assuming they know what to do. Leaving a match should be heavily penalized, timeout, or zero exp gain and it affects WR if that match they left is lost.
Eh, it sounds good on paper. But doesn't really work in practise. I do agree that leaving a match should be penalized though, since it's a pretty scummy thing to do. But really, if you think about it, when's the last time you had fun with a KDR around 1 in any game? Of course, I'm not literally saying if skill-based matchmaking were implemented, everyone would have a KDR of 1. But it's essentially the goal of it, more or less. And well, quite frankly, disparity in performance is what makes PVP games fun. We don't watch TH-camrs like this one because we want to see someone get one or two kills, then immediately die. We watch them for the feeds, carrying games, smashing effortlessly through enemies. And likewise, we play PVP games for the same reason. Because we want to do the same. Skill-based matchmaking is just inherently designed to prevent that. Not to say it makes imbalance okay, but having both good matches and bad ones is unavoidable to make a PVP game that's actually fun. I do think an approach that could work, is still having random players in matches though. But giving each a skill value (like you mentioned), and just sorting them so each team has as close to an even amount compared to the other as possible. So, there would still be players who are a bit better than others in matches, but overall, there wouldn't be a significant gap in average skill between teams. Allowing you to actually progress in terms of skill while maintaining some degree of balance.
I'm just going to reiterate my point here, but shorter: Skill-based matchmaking sounds good on paper. But we play games to get good at them, and do good compared to others in matches. If you aren't doing good compared to others in matches, then you almost certainly aren't having fun, and aren't being rewarded for being skilled. Since you're effectively on the same skill level compared to everyone else, instead of progressing in relative performance. So, all it basically does, is ensure everyone has a mediocre-at-best 1 KDR experience. (again, not literally, but it's effectively what SBMM mechanics try to achieve with the way they're normally implemented) That, and it's also the only mechanic that makes smurfing a thing that exists. And believe me, people are going to.
@foxxowoxxowillow7855 When’s the last time you had fun getting your team/game run by a single player who’s infinitely better than you. You and I may both play for the thrill of the win, and we may both be bad at pvp games, but at least I have the dignity not to sink to the point of resisting changing the game because I want to curbstomp noobs.
This is how it is in a lot of FPS games. I remember playing Battlefield 1 and I won 9 straight matches, then a few days later I lost 7 or 8 matches in a row lol.
Not in enlisted, and not with axsis. Most of the games that resulted in victory were hard-carry from 2-4 dudes (including myself), its never the case with allies, there is never such a split between 3rd and 4th player.
Usually its neither. They cant aim and they dont play the objective. Its really frustrating sometimes having to make you do some crazy carrying that will result in early onset hernia. Being also a axis main in war thunder im somewhat used to it tho
Finally someone who actually understands the source of the problem. Still, giving some sort of reward for playing with the "all factions" setting on would be the easiest solution to this dilemma
I pretty much always play with join any team selected, with US BR 3 and the rest at br 2, and it almost exclusively puts me on GR/JP teams. In fact I don’t think it has put me on a U.S. team in the 3 weeks I have had br3 selected
i remember when this game was casual fun when it released, just more games being ruined by the modern mindset of everything has to be hyper competitive
Only reason I tried it was because an ad said it was MMO and I thought that meant MMORPG. If I knew it was just another PVP FPS would have hard skipped. But now I'm too invested in crushing the Axis forces as Soviets.
The axis faction may be losing in public matches but it doesn't help that we're mostly stuck with defender maps most of the time and the allies have perfect weapons for room clearing and breaking through objectives and I'm looking at you rocket spam
To make it absolute balance, USA - Air Superiority Soviet - More ManPower (Squads, Basically 10 Unit per squad or more) Germany - Armor Superiority and equipments Japan - Ability to deal 2x less damage when using banzai
German main, of course i don’t play BR 4-5 because full sweat against, but low tier is still a bit painfull especially when the game put you against BR3 and you suddently can’t pen ennemy tanks, planes got rocket and ennemies got full squad of 9 SMG/HMG somehow , and ally are as good as abscent, been 1st is rewarding at first, but 5 times in a row with more than 1k more than the 2nd is a bit boring, especially when it’s all defeat
Ong I switched form Maxed BR 5 to BR 2 but I somehow get flamethrower, grenade launchers and Sherman’s in my games. I mostly play on Normandy maps even tho they are BR 5. I rarely get into BR 2 matches but when i do, it’s always a win and Top 3
@@milchbrot0608 idk man. i think its because of its frontal angled armor that is around 70mm, im not sure how much angle affects for Warheads but seems to be alot, and sturmpistole just sucks in general, low ass damage after penetration and a bad ass acurracy.
@@tankenjoyer9175 I prefer the Sturmpistole over the Granatbüchse 39 because I used both and I realized that the sturmpistole has a better penetration while I couldn’t penetrate anything with the granatbüchse I could with sturmpistole and you can even kill jumbos with it which i learnt a 2 years ago when noobs could still play with high level players.
Closed alpha test veteran here, I concur equipment was never an issue, except maybe for some exceptionally poor or massively overpowered tanks at certain tiers in certan factions. Unstable player base distribution among the factions have been causing this issue since the very beginning and Enlisted is constantly glossing over the fact by filling the teams with bot players with real player sounding names. I guess they're using that dynamic to sell premium squads hoping that most people won't notice that what they're perma-dominating are teams that have one real player at best. Here's some signs you might be the only real player on your team: - When you're attacking in Assault and the only point ever captured is the one you're capturing while your teammates fail to even contest the other one. - When in invasion, a bot team defending will put up no resistance and the enemy will run through each defense in less than a minute because a capable player will realize there's no need to smoke out pockets of resistance because the bots lingering around are no impedance to him making a run for the next capture point. Conversely, when a bot team is attacking, they'll fail to take the first capture point as the bot squads keep running into the same kill zones where the savvy opponent may have erected a stationary machine gun to keep mowing them down. Additionally, the enemy will have no difficulty going into the offensive and repeatedly raiding your engineer's spawn points out of commission and even erecting a forward defense at the very boundary of their battlefield. - The inherently dynamic conquest mode will turn rather static as you are only able to contest a single capture point while the others are always in the hands of your opponent. So no, Germany alone doesn't suffer. Enlisted suffers and that's Enlisted's fault. If it's annoying to you, then stop playing until things have shifted again and playing is fun and balanced again. Don't fall for the feedback loop of frustration that Gaijin is so fond of capitalizing on. Fuck that asshole snail, even if it makes some sick looking games don't let it hijack and control your life.
If developers don't incentivize "play any faction" as the default option, this is bound to always happen. Even giants like battlefield can't afford to divide the playerbase by factions and mains.
They can offer more exp/rewards for inferior factions to encourage people to play that faction more. Hence, balance out the game. Hero and General used to applied this method i believe, Enlisted can learn a lot from that game.
A big problem with axis seems to be the maps. At least half of the maps have a massive bias against them. Tractor factory is a prime example, every time I see that map half of the German team instantly quits because its both miserable to play and basically unwinnable. Goebbels street is another one. Basically unplayable from the spawn on the side of the mannor.
I think that's an Enlisted problem in general. Many maps have chokes for one faction or another. D-Day hell on the beach, then on the mountains if you don't hold it, that one Moscow map with the lumbermill and the river, the other Moscow map with the pillbox, univermag attacking side... Sometimes the game just gives a massive advantage to the defenders for some reason
@@ihatehandleupdate Defenders should always have a map advantage, attacking is much easier than defending in enlisted if neither side has a map advantage. The problems come when attackers have a big map advantage. A bunch of Soviet maps literally spawn the attackers closer to the point(often in the same building while defenders have to cross open ground) than the defenders or have a grey zone so close to the defenders it’s practically impossible to defend.
I am also one of those axis mains that were heavily against adding both the Tiger E and Tiger 2, I just saw no place for it in Enlisted and found both unnecessary
I remember when they inaugurated the infamous Stalingrad campaign, and its campaign pass system. I completed that campaign on the Soviet side without buying the pass, facing Mosin carbines against SGT42. In that campaign the imbalance was noticeable, even more so between premium and non-premium players. Since many premium players finished completing the high tier within a few days thanks to the experience bonus. The Soviet side was very abandoned, most of the time I had to play with allied bots that only went to the front to die in a stupid way and harm all the effort I had made to capture a point. I can't believe that in 2024 and after the merge there are so many people crying because they took away the possibility of farming points easily.
Nah they didn't, they just gave it exclusively to the US in BR 1-3 games against Japan players. Not enough of them play Japan tho, so you're lucky when you get matched against Japan essentially.
@@Gogosqwezethegreatest It’s the Low tier that Germany suffers in. It’s hard to play against better stuff with bad stuff that’s not possible and then I get 0 kills because all I do is build cuz no one else does all they do is spam request coordinates
@@milchbrot0608 dude i be playin low tier Germany just today, and yeah, the enemies got way better inf equipment but it dont really matter when you kill 16 soviets with one blast of the Panzer 3 N
That's not what happened though??? Two fronts against up to ten countries with the allies and the Americans still suffered 75 deaths oer 25 German... It was numbers and that's it
@@KC-nn5wcAre you seriously using KD ratio on how successful a country is in a war? With that logic the US won in Korea and Vietnam. Also, Germany is on the defense, which is often an easier role in a war. Something like island hopping, which the US did, is way more logistically manpower intensive.
@@funtecstudiovideos4102 rallies being built don't change the fact bad players either A don't use them or B aren't good enough to capitalise even on good rally spawn locations. It is what it is man
Major be selling his soul to the snail and jumping on the “Germany-Suffers”-Armored-train just so he doesn’t have to make a new golden weapon order review But jokes aside I’m still waiting for that review tho
The first thing I thought when this whole meme started was "Didnt allies used to suffer in Normandy and Japan dominate in Pacific". Glad to see someone bring it up. After playing Planetside 2 for years this same stuff would happen every month, and it all came down to population and the groups of people who were playing and actually playing well. One faction would get a really good weapon people would complain on the forums, and then you would play an opposing faction in a good team and dominate said weapon users with ease. It truely is for the most part psychological.
Formerly an Enlisted player, I played both German and Soviet armies but I progressed further on the German side. Played mainly in the Stalingrad Campaign because I enjoyed fighting in the city, and around snow covered factories in the country side. Before the merge, I could just buy items for specific campaigns because I was good at doing challenges but now I have to grind to unlock things I use to be able to just buy. The worst part of the merge is the destruction of historical accuracy in terms of armourment. I was thrown off seeing specific tanks, and guns that shouldn't be in certain battles. I miss being able to select specific battles I'd like to participate in. Likely I'll never return to Enlisted but I had a lot of fun playing it till the Merge.
Never liked the merge tbh. Felt like it wasn't as good as it would have been if it was kept. Also i lost my extra Stalingrad slots (after pre-ordering it) so that was just a slap to the face or an insult rather
Incoming permanent 200% XP boost for Japan..... (It's the only incentive that would work for JP low tier grinding against fucking Shermans, Thompsons, and BARs)
0:22 Its just the historically accurate progression of the war LOL As an Axis main though this is unfortunate news. My USSR main friend will be pleased though.
Enlisted was fun during the alpha and super early on when it was just bolt actions, SMGs and light tanks. Now it's everything wrong with war thunder: Infantry edition
I've honestly never had a complaint about being a Germany main. I'm still grinding the tree, and all the good players are against you, but the weapons are good and the variety of maps is excellent.
As someone who is full Tier 5 I still stay Germany suffers. But personally I think that Tier 1-3 is the part where Germany actually suffers because of all the uptiered matches.
@@milchbrot0608 I agree everyone says Germany suffers cuz its true , playberbase shifts , Noobs with one t5squad its not because bad weapons and vehicles .
I survived the dark days of axis Tunisia main b4 the merge. I learned to embrace the suck and learned to have fun whilst the defeats by learning how to troll the allies.
American Teams when you play axis: basically space-marine-doomslayers American teams if you play America: Can't get the first cap, even if it is the one u cap in 10 seconds.
Kinda funny how post merge I’ve done like around 20 berlin matches and only won 2 of them as Germany, both conquest mode because motorcycles don’t win games lol
so I played the axis faction yesterday and I think that its regaining a playerbase again, but the problem is that most new players either choose the US or axis faction at first, and by now they will probably earned a gold weapon order by now and spent it on a late game weapon like the FN model etc, and they dont know that those weapons automatically put them in high tier matches, and with the current tech tree (which is miles better than before the merge, I was wrong) doesnt give players a clear sign of engineer squads, and because of that the new players dont know the significance of engineers, and then the high tier matches have players who cant really contribute much in rallies etc. and then the few players who remain playing tier V axis matches leave because they just solo carry the entire team only to no avail, but now i think its going back, its like keepy ups, the ball changes foot every or every other kick, just like the player base at every update or so
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I ended up quitting because 7/10 matches ended up feeling boring because my team would just crush the enemy team. I couldn't get any kills all the obj were done it was just boring while the enemy team had no rallies kr anything
@@milchbrot0608 if you meant faction I was playing both krauts and americans, while indeed it wasn't a huge number of matches I played(only about 15 or 20) I just lost all motivation since my friends moved on from the game and work got in the way too.
Soy jugador de todas las naciones, (menos Japón) y hay demasiados panzer 3 en la línea de investigación, tier 3 es complicado, las armas son poco variadas y están “nerfed”, y las opciones son limitadas, los estadounidenses son la mejor facción actualmente a mi parecer, la más equilibrada y divertida. Comentario escrito en español para evitar conflictos con la traducción.
Hey I hope you could make a video about the Japan faction, since like in lower BR you lose like ALL the time. It also doesn't help that American tanks are so op like for example the Mk1 Grant, no BR1 tank of Japan could pen that, even the ha go tank (the one with the most armor in BR2) unless you know the weakpoint. Life is pain man playing as Japan
I am suffering as an Axis player, I've just lost 3 battles with boosters in a row, I kept losing because I'm a tier 1 but I kept fighting against tier 3-4. Please make the pain stop..
I know a way to solve the problem that DBD (Dead By Daylight) uses. The game was suffering with long periods of match making, because in diferent times of the day there was too many killers or too many survivors, and to make a game start it needs in minimun 3 survivors and 1 killer (yes, you dont need the 4th surv to start). So to solve this, whe the game notices that there is too many killers the game gives a 100% coin bonus for every match for every survivor until the number of the killers and survivors reach a ballance or the survivors reach a bigger number mking the killers receive that bonus, and the bonus can be 50%, 75% and 100% depending on how big the diference of players is.
Funny that I returned to Enlisted after some time on the same day this video went into my recommendation. I played four games, one for each faction, Allies won every one, and only one of them wasn't a total wipeout
I'm an axis main and usually the only one building rallies ANS playing the obj. I love tanks, but often can't okay them because if I don't sweat the obj we lose
3:35 so you ask of us remaining german player to abuse the king tiger 2h and ap spamm?😂😂😂😂😂 perhaps by enemy quitting the game we win more(actually i noticed that way more german players play very unfair, like grayzone camping with king tiger and ap spamming didnt happen yet)
I stopped playing the game because it felt soulless, the community felt invisible and dead, the game is way too easy when I had like 200 kill games with low tier equipment and all the pay to win stuff, braindead AI, dunno, the game could be good but eh, oh and on some maps we would just spawnkill the enemy team and I would literally have to wait at the front of the enemy spawn and sit there for 5 mins to find one enemy squad
One idea would could be, wich sjf and me brought off an underdog bonus: if the playerbase is 50% of what is needed, an bonus of 50% extra xp, and for every ai replacement 10% xp extra. would improve other problems of player leaving an non winable game to a degree
I am a german main and US second, with a good squad you can win. But it's such a pain without having to sacrifice wave after wave. It's like when Japan first came out, every match was a slaugther with Japanese players blitzing the map. It's a matter of server and player competency sometimes when half the team is tier i-ii and you have tier iv. People have to pull their weight in a server.
You're absolutely right. Balance doesn't just mean mirroring everything across factions, but giving different factions different strengths. Giving them flavour. And in a combined arms game, that also means having different factions being strong at different features. Your faction is weak at infantry but strong at armor? Well, how about you bring a vehicle to the fight. Your faction is weak at armor? Maybe bring aircraft. Use the strong part of your faction to overcome the weaknesses. I don't play Enlisted, but I know the same situation from other games. One faction seems completely overpowered and imbalanced, than suddenly it shifts and a different faction starts dominating. Without any changes to the gear, just a change in player population.
I don't play Enlisted but played War Thunder extensively. I remember during New Year sale, BR 10.0 for Russia became absolutely unbearable, pretty sure I was losing at least 8/10 games. The reason being a lot of new players buying 10.0 premium tanks during the sale, causing the win rate for 10.0 Russia to plummet.
yeah, I have to agree more with any point here that it's really just a self-fulfilling prophecy. Way too often I see Axis players - both in War Thunder (as Germany) and Enlisted - just playing well, kind of stupidly. Crutching on their Tigers, STG's, and so on because they're supposedly just superior and better. And when that doesn't work, it must just be some kind of mistake on the developers' part. While those they're fighting against think the same thing, and actually take them seriously as opponents. Because they aren't expecting their rifles, tanks, etc, to carry them. Instead playing smart, avoiding throwing themselves into the meat grinder, flanking, and placing rally points instead of the typical W + M1 gameplay you see from Axis/Germany. Honestly, even so, I'd say you can argue either faction is stronger or being biased toward/against. But at the end of the day, no FG42 or King Tiger can defeat a player who simply shoots first and plays smarter, regardless of what they're using. And really, I've played either side in both games, and as simple as it sounds, just recognizing the patterns of players and getting better at the game makes up for any disparity in balance. I wouldn't say this effect is as pronounced in Enlisted as it is in WT. I see similar things from both Axis and other factions more often, and it's more associated with tanks than small arms. But it's definitely present nonetheless. My advice though, for anyone who's struggling: Don't play absent-mindedly. You can get good at the game in a matter of days if you think about why you died, instead of getting frustrated about it. Change your tactics, try different loadouts, and different flank routes. Learn to read maps, and you'll start noticing the patterns. Doubling down on what you're already doing, just more aggressively, only rushes you to your death faster.
Axis player here. At BR V the thing I see the most is mostly skill issue on german side. I went from near 68%wr to near 43% since Christmas and most of the losses were with suicide planes, suicide infantry (suicide players in general, to be short) BR I or II tanks on BR V, people with only Horn squad as tier V and the rest very low tier and so forth. More than "equipment balance", I feel there is a lot of people just camping or doing nothing. I'd seen things so extreme as 6 kills and 14 squad respawns with some regularity. After the 251 event, with people still not building rallies but the 251 doing it's work, things got a bit better in my experience. I don't know in other servers, but in NA often the experience seems to be "steamroll" or "be steamrolled"
As a German main hearing that, not only do soviets get better assault rifles (this I knew), but they also get a 10% damage reduction, which is insane. On top of that the fact that they get access to panzerfouses is utterly stupid. Gajin has always been biased toward russian factions, and in enlisted it shows more than ever.
This is honestly why i believe Hell let loose is perfect because both all factions are balanced and both get something similar in terms of gear and even get diverse gear specific to their own faction/nation
Enlisted would be better if you simply could lock a faction you play. Imagine if 80% of population in HLL decided to only play for one side - suddenly the game would be "imbalanced mess"
Thank you so much for this video! Like you said, each faction is strong in their own right. The Soviets with their rifles, the Americans with their planes, the Germans with their tanks, and the Japanese with their submachine guns.
So, getting about halfway through the video. The issue is the exact one seen in the older sibling game War Thunder. People go in believing a whole bunch of the "Germany produced the best stuff" myths and subconsciously believe they can effortlessly win without effort. So they don't put the effort in. Then, you end up with a community-wide skill issue. So because they're losing, they think the game has incorrectly represented the myths they believed and refused to shift from that mentality.
I started playing the game again a few months ago, I always play with allies and axis. I think I lost a total of 5 games with the Americans (I'm BR 3) and 90% with the Germans (BR 4). I have more fun with blondes, I want to unlock the Italian weapons so I would hate to give up. I also tried to start leveling the Soviets, but after losing two games in a row after only 10 minutes, I abandoned the idea. Im glad that you ve talk about this huge problem in a video.
I’m a German main (tier 5 I believe). But this is news to me. For the games I’m in it’s relatively balanced on wins and loses. And the most common matches we end up losing are against the Americans. But on the other end with fighting the Soviets it’s even more balanced from my experience. Sometimes I have a win streak or a lose streak but majority of those battles are always really close. One I had not to long ago we were getting our asses handed to us and we were pushed to the last defensive point really quick. Like one after another. But we help that point with tooth and nail and when there troops went down to about 50 left everyone just pushed forward and cleared out the stragglers. Like a full line cinematic counter attack. One of the best matches I’ve ever had.
Bruh, no one went to play high tier Germany, I was building rallies but no one was going on the point even though there is tank support. So it's everyone fault
Searched for same thing but for war thunder ussr tanks and came across this video. I guess everything also applies there. Great vid. Gave me hope that one day i will see my winrate come back from 30%
as a war thunder player i knew this was gonna happen before enlisted even released, flashy german equipment commonly known as "undefeatable" attracts players who want to use it as a crutch but when presented with the reality that it's not as unkillable as the documentary they saw once claims they get destroyed and then rage on forums and the like
the American Sherman may lack in armour and armour penetration but there were studies shown the the American 75mm was the best infantry support gun of the war compared to the 76mm 90mm and 105mm and coming from a game many tanks main role is infantry support unlike war thunder where the M4A3E2 Jumbo is so out matched by German heavy tanks
I just started playing again and not having decent enough weapons to counter high tier experienced players is unnerving. Especially since I have the skill, just not the equipment. Its annoying, and also quite demoralizing.
Yeah, I've literally NEVER seen the U45 kids play the weaker side. Any time I've got to see them, they were 4-stacking against complete empty teams lmao
cant get over the fact i just had 3 games in a row where my team could'nt take the first checkpoint even though i could constantly get on it without even trying
Me and my friend got Enlisted 2 weeks ago and we played Japan and Germany (mainly Germany) and our first 5 games were all losses. A match usually goes for 20 - 25 minutes, we had 5 games and in an hour we did not win.
comming from planetside 2 this is just a normal thing in games with pre determent factions. some faction starts to dominate and all the playser flok to that faction, but with that there are so many new and bad players in that faction that another faction starts to dominate and the cycle repeates. it not a balace or X faction problem, its just the nature of theres playerbases
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Explain me why they fix other iron sight but broke it completely for M3 grease guns? Also why stg is AR and for assaulters while M2 the stg counter part is not AR and it's not assaulters weapon even it's PDW ??? I lack logic in the game and if they gonna release it at this state the players just leave or didint even try the game it will be an exodus, us also missing higher tier anti tank weapons
Me playing with the axis no matter what and never even touching the other factions except for Japan pre merge
If they add Piershing, They should add Jadgtiger then
@@JaHail-oy6vq jagdtiger is overkill bro they cant do that a kingtiger is hard enough to destroy imagine a jadgiger grayzoning you cant do shit against that
I don't care lol, Axis were just better in equipments and tanks. I just want my jadgtiger or Sturmtiger.@@monkey1455
As an Axis high tier main, I've lately noticed that I'm the only one building rallies, people using STARTER weapons at BR 5 and people with 9 squad deaths at the end of the game with only 4 kills.
Same here my friend.
yep same here
I know🤣
Probably the people who think they can get into low tier games but still have an Ofenrohr on a soldier
@@itskyansaro even a br v gun on a single soldier, on a single squad counts all of your army as br v
Another problem is that German players get divided among soviet and US queues, not so much a problem in low tier but high tier is f-ing crippled due to it, since most of the times there's 2 or 3 tier V players, and the rest of the team is tier III, making them have to fight about 5 or 6 high tier soviets/Americans, and that's simply an incredibly hard fight to win
And those freaking paratroopers are pain in the back.
@@zolfilegendi hate them with passion
I retired from enlisted I loved the game but the campaign merg and the fact they keep adding tanks like the tiger 2 h and is2 1944 are just so annoying it was fun while it lasted tbh
Just like in real life lol
lol ong@@books_2038
>Germans easily in the beginning
>Starts losing to the Allies
Just like real life
Lmao I thought it was only me who noticed 😂
and also because of high rank incompetence lol (devs)
Because dev shit on Germany...we saw that with WOT, WTF, WOWS...
@@AKUJIVALDO
Except WoT and WoWS is made by a completely different dev.
If you mean War Thunder than yeah, people complain Germany suffers, but it's untrue there as well.
@@TrepidDestinytrue, I play soviets tier 3 and matched against tigers almost every game
I love how in War Thunder “Germany suffers” is ironic, but it’s actually real in Enlisted, wether or not its players or weapons
War thunder doesn't have much of a bias. It exists, but at the same time. You still see kids go around a corner and get sniped by a tiger 2.
The snail bias kicks in when an IS2 shows up.
there are multiple nations in war thunder so all gaishit needs to do is make russia the best
@@vonhellsing6406 "The snail bias kicks in when an IS2 shows up."
literally the turret is soo weak i die instanty because of it, simply skill issu.
@someguy4512 Here's a shocking concept, Not everybody lives on war thunder.
@lsing6406 in war thunder*
shocking news dont try to cry about soviet or any kinds of biast when you don't even bother to learn the f'ing game kid.
simply skill issue on your part.
"You still see kids go around a corner and get sniped by a tiger 2. "
oddly specific I don't want to jump to conclusion but I bet you where those people who did exactly that.
As someone who made the mistake of starting as Japan a month or so ago….I was not aware you could win matches for quite a while. I assumed the point was just to see how long you could delay the loss.
It feels a tad better now, but that was a brutal start. I spent most matches wishing it would have just let me keep playing against bots for a while longer
I didnt do it like you but i feel you brother
Japan is hands down the worst faction, _especially_ in lower battle rankings where you get to pick between an open top tank the enemy snipers can hit you inside, or a tank that won't let you shoot the turret and the machinegun at the same time as they're separate positions. All against proper US light tanks of course. Not to mention Japans first planes entire loadout is 4 bombs and it takes you 45 seconds just to get out of the water
@@ReikerForgeThe plane thing did not become apparent to me until I started playing other factions. Jumping into the Russian starting plane I thought "Wait, you just start in the air?" followed by "oh god, the weapons are so much better..."
I have stopped playing Japan, as a result.
@@YoungClarke the issue is, a lot of japanese starting equipment is from the 1930s, fighting against american stuff, from the 1940s. as such there is such a massive technological problem.
Japan after second battle rating is kinda over powered against waves of americans. I started japan after it was released, they suffered so much but after adding br's its easier to play
I am a German main before and after the merge. Back then we were Blitzkrieging the match and it felt to easy to grind points. Now we are literally being stormed by US paratroopers with US Thompsons, Bazookas, and P-47s from every direction. Some of these players have some eagle eyes pointing out the perfect coordinates.
Bruh, pretty much accurate WW2 history
So it became more historically accurate
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@@skyraider87 ney, piles of paratroopers died to go behind enemy lines...
That's because as US player we are playing a harder game, we're getting better due to having a harder time.
I call this the see-saw phenomenon - one side carries the most weight and then forces the other to be lighter (and easier to play), but once something comes up it always come back down for the other side. Germany will probably see a resurgence once the steam version releases.
That’s a very good way to look at it. Also what’s up Dysphorid
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2 months late but I don't think people liked the steam release
hows that steam version going
I'm from the future and got the free release from steam started as an All American we would every now and then get smashed on by the Axis but one thing I noticed different factions will be good at different time zones. Pretty much prime time Europe would be smashing and primetime Asian pacific time they smash us Americans I was home all last week playing so I got to get a feel on the algorithms.
I remember when the Italian paratroopers came out. When it happened the couple months between that and the merge it was almost impossible to win as Tunisia allies
Yeah I solod an entire zone with flame paratroopers 27 kills In 15 seconds
I never fought the Italian paras. I was playing Berlin and honestly didn't even know about that event. Don't know what was going on but I missed the whole thing. Last time I played Tunisia was when it was an axis slaughterhouse with nothing but 300 kill allied games for anyone who knew their way around a Lee Enfield and a radio operator
Playerbase < Matchmaking TBH
Stacked players should face other stacked players in a game(should be mandatory), not solo players facing a stack of sweats on the opposing side unless they have a stacked team on their side.
Players with specific battle-rank should be distributed evenly and not engage against a bunch of marshals or generals from the other team while you get newbies assuming they know what to do.
Leaving a match should be heavily penalized, timeout, or zero exp gain and it affects WR if that match they left is lost.
Eh, it sounds good on paper. But doesn't really work in practise. I do agree that leaving a match should be penalized though, since it's a pretty scummy thing to do.
But really, if you think about it, when's the last time you had fun with a KDR around 1 in any game? Of course, I'm not literally saying if skill-based matchmaking were implemented, everyone would have a KDR of 1. But it's essentially the goal of it, more or less. And well, quite frankly, disparity in performance is what makes PVP games fun.
We don't watch TH-camrs like this one because we want to see someone get one or two kills, then immediately die. We watch them for the feeds, carrying games, smashing effortlessly through enemies. And likewise, we play PVP games for the same reason. Because we want to do the same. Skill-based matchmaking is just inherently designed to prevent that. Not to say it makes imbalance okay, but having both good matches and bad ones is unavoidable to make a PVP game that's actually fun.
I do think an approach that could work, is still having random players in matches though. But giving each a skill value (like you mentioned), and just sorting them so each team has as close to an even amount compared to the other as possible. So, there would still be players who are a bit better than others in matches, but overall, there wouldn't be a significant gap in average skill between teams. Allowing you to actually progress in terms of skill while maintaining some degree of balance.
Agreed
The bottom one is a no go, punish high tier players for being high tier in the first place and people wouldn’t leave.
I'm just going to reiterate my point here, but shorter:
Skill-based matchmaking sounds good on paper. But we play games to get good at them, and do good compared to others in matches. If you aren't doing good compared to others in matches, then you almost certainly aren't having fun, and aren't being rewarded for being skilled. Since you're effectively on the same skill level compared to everyone else, instead of progressing in relative performance.
So, all it basically does, is ensure everyone has a mediocre-at-best 1 KDR experience. (again, not literally, but it's effectively what SBMM mechanics try to achieve with the way they're normally implemented)
That, and it's also the only mechanic that makes smurfing a thing that exists. And believe me, people are going to.
@foxxowoxxowillow7855 When’s the last time you had fun getting your team/game run by a single player who’s infinitely better than you.
You and I may both play for the thrill of the win, and we may both be bad at pvp games, but at least I have the dignity not to sink to the point of resisting changing the game because I want to curbstomp noobs.
As a german Main my teamates always walk arround the god damn point
I'm a Soviet main and noticed that sometimes there are phases where I can't win a single game and then there's phases where I never lose.
This is how it is in a lot of FPS games. I remember playing Battlefield 1 and I won 9 straight matches, then a few days later I lost 7 or 8 matches in a row lol.
Not in enlisted, and not with axsis. Most of the games that resulted in victory were hard-carry from 2-4 dudes (including myself), its never the case with allies, there is never such a split between 3rd and 4th player.
as a soviet ive been stuck in the losing matches phase for a very long time, still here in fact
Gaijin logic
As a axis veteran I can confirm that rn that most axis players lack braincells to do more than rush to the objective and missing 90% of thier shots
Usually its neither. They cant aim and they dont play the objective. Its really frustrating sometimes having to make you do some crazy carrying that will result in early onset hernia. Being also a axis main in war thunder im somewhat used to it tho
Just like warthunder
Finally someone who actually understands the source of the problem. Still, giving some sort of reward for playing with the "all factions" setting on would be the easiest solution to this dilemma
Also a no quit reward like a conders smg or special black uniforms or something
I pretty much always play with join any team selected, with US BR 3 and the rest at br 2, and it almost exclusively puts me on GR/JP teams. In fact I don’t think it has put me on a U.S. team in the 3 weeks I have had br3 selected
i remember when this game was casual fun when it released, just more games being ruined by the modern mindset of everything has to be hyper competitive
Only reason I tried it was because an ad said it was MMO and I thought that meant MMORPG. If I knew it was just another PVP FPS would have hard skipped. But now I'm too invested in crushing the Axis forces as Soviets.
The only reason I really used Germany was to get all the Italian stuff, after the G55 I switched to USA
Same
The axis faction may be losing in public matches but it doesn't help that we're mostly stuck with defender maps most of the time and the allies have perfect weapons for room clearing and breaking through objectives and I'm looking at you rocket spam
Basically like IRL from 1942 onwards then?
To make it absolute balance,
USA - Air Superiority
Soviet - More ManPower (Squads, Basically 10 Unit per squad or more)
Germany - Armor Superiority and equipments
Japan - Ability to deal 2x less damage when using banzai
German main, of course i don’t play BR 4-5 because full sweat against, but low tier is still a bit painfull especially when the game put you against BR3 and you suddently can’t pen ennemy tanks, planes got rocket and ennemies got full squad of 9 SMG/HMG somehow , and ally are as good as abscent, been 1st is rewarding at first, but 5 times in a row with more than 1k more than the 2nd is a bit boring, especially when it’s all defeat
Ong I switched form Maxed BR 5 to BR 2 but I somehow get flamethrower, grenade launchers and Sherman’s in my games. I mostly play on Normandy maps even tho they are BR 5. I rarely get into BR 2 matches but when i do, it’s always a win and Top 3
my Sturmpistole struggling to pen a T-70 feels like:
@@tankenjoyer9175 how
@@milchbrot0608 idk man. i think its because of its frontal angled armor that is around 70mm, im not sure how much angle affects for Warheads but seems to be alot, and sturmpistole just sucks in general, low ass damage after penetration and a bad ass acurracy.
@@tankenjoyer9175 I prefer the Sturmpistole over the Granatbüchse 39 because I used both and I realized that the sturmpistole has a better penetration while I couldn’t penetrate anything with the granatbüchse I could with sturmpistole and you can even kill jumbos with it which i learnt a 2 years ago when noobs could still play with high level players.
Closed alpha test veteran here, I concur equipment was never an issue, except maybe for some exceptionally poor or massively overpowered tanks at certain tiers in certan factions.
Unstable player base distribution among the factions have been causing this issue since the very beginning and Enlisted is constantly glossing over the fact by filling the teams with bot players with real player sounding names. I guess they're using that dynamic to sell premium squads hoping that most people won't notice that what they're perma-dominating are teams that have one real player at best. Here's some signs you might be the only real player on your team:
- When you're attacking in Assault and the only point ever captured is the one you're capturing while your teammates fail to even contest the other one.
- When in invasion, a bot team defending will put up no resistance and the enemy will run through each defense in less than a minute because a capable player will realize there's no need to smoke out pockets of resistance because the bots lingering around are no impedance to him making a run for the next capture point. Conversely, when a bot team is attacking, they'll fail to take the first capture point as the bot squads keep running into the same kill zones where the savvy opponent may have erected a stationary machine gun to keep mowing them down. Additionally, the enemy will have no difficulty going into the offensive and repeatedly raiding your engineer's spawn points out of commission and even erecting a forward defense at the very boundary of their battlefield.
- The inherently dynamic conquest mode will turn rather static as you are only able to contest a single capture point while the others are always in the hands of your opponent.
So no, Germany alone doesn't suffer. Enlisted suffers and that's Enlisted's fault. If it's annoying to you, then stop playing until things have shifted again and playing is fun and balanced again.
Don't fall for the feedback loop of frustration that Gaijin is so fond of capitalizing on. Fuck that asshole snail, even if it makes some sick looking games don't let it hijack and control your life.
This says a lot about my experience as a JP main, I downloaded the game 4 days ago lol
I remember in campaign era I was 78% win rate in Normandy and 82% in Berlin as axis
Now days I stay under rank III if I would like to win in axis
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Axis now is unplayable at rank 3, I got up tier to rank 5 constantly at rank 3, facing Soviets using AS-44 using MP40 is pain in the ass.
@@macobuzi u mean under III
I play I-II never ever put any shit from III
Even I finish most rank IV but man it’s hell up there
I remember when pacific released USA was dominating I rarely lost that was until the the pro players moved to japan
If developers don't incentivize "play any faction" as the default option, this is bound to always happen.
Even giants like battlefield can't afford to divide the playerbase by factions and mains.
They can offer more exp/rewards for inferior factions to encourage people to play that faction more. Hence, balance out the game. Hero and General used to applied this method i believe, Enlisted can learn a lot from that game.
@@macobuziit did. God do i miss that game😢
@@macobuzito quote extra credit: "shorter wait times for fascists"
That wouldnt work with the tech trees though. There would be no progression for the different nations
I refuse to play against my beloved Germany.
A big problem with axis seems to be the maps. At least half of the maps have a massive bias against them. Tractor factory is a prime example, every time I see that map half of the German team instantly quits because its both miserable to play and basically unwinnable. Goebbels street is another one. Basically unplayable from the spawn on the side of the mannor.
Gaijin unable to level design correctly ? How surprising !
I think that's an Enlisted problem in general. Many maps have chokes for one faction or another. D-Day hell on the beach, then on the mountains if you don't hold it, that one Moscow map with the lumbermill and the river, the other Moscow map with the pillbox, univermag attacking side... Sometimes the game just gives a massive advantage to the defenders for some reason
@@ihatehandleupdate Defenders should always have a map advantage, attacking is much easier than defending in enlisted if neither side has a map advantage. The problems come when attackers have a big map advantage. A bunch of Soviet maps literally spawn the attackers closer to the point(often in the same building while defenders have to cross open ground) than the defenders or have a grey zone so close to the defenders it’s practically impossible to defend.
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Agree
No doubt
I was an axis main for a long time, since a year after enlisted's launch, and after the merge I stopped playing rank IV-V on axis entirely
I am also one of those axis mains that were heavily against adding both the Tiger E and Tiger 2, I just saw no place for it in Enlisted and found both unnecessary
@@mangosuppe8706then how do you kill IS-2?
@@mangosuppe8706skill issue
I remember when they inaugurated the infamous Stalingrad campaign, and its campaign pass system.
I completed that campaign on the Soviet side without buying the pass, facing Mosin carbines against SGT42. In that campaign the imbalance was noticeable, even more so between premium and non-premium players. Since many premium players finished completing the high tier within a few days thanks to the experience bonus.
The Soviet side was very abandoned, most of the time I had to play with allied bots that only went to the front to die in a stupid way and harm all the effort I had made to capture a point.
I can't believe that in 2024 and after the merge there are so many people crying because they took away the possibility of farming points easily.
Nah they didn't, they just gave it exclusively to the US in BR 1-3 games against Japan players. Not enough of them play Japan tho, so you're lucky when you get matched against Japan essentially.
i almost always play Germany and i don't see it suffering
Good for you, I'm literally in pain rn, I just lost 3 match in a row..
The only thing that Germany suffers in is the fact that most good players play other factions.
@@Gogosqwezethegreatest It’s the Low tier that Germany suffers in. It’s hard to play against better stuff with bad stuff that’s not possible and then I get 0 kills because all I do is build cuz no one else does all they do is spam request coordinates
@@milchbrot0608 dude i be playin low tier Germany just today, and yeah, the enemies got way better inf equipment but it dont really matter when you kill 16 soviets with one blast of the Panzer 3 N
same i got a 92% win rate
The axis getting steamrolled by the allies is just historically accurate lmao
That's not what happened though??? Two fronts against up to ten countries with the allies and the Americans still suffered 75 deaths oer 25 German... It was numbers and that's it
@@KC-nn5wc German high command was also incredibly incompetent, so I wouldn't just put it on numbers
@@KC-nn5wcAre you seriously using KD ratio on how successful a country is in a war? With that logic the US won in Korea and Vietnam. Also, Germany is on the defense, which is often an easier role in a war. Something like island hopping, which the US did, is way more logistically manpower intensive.
@@johncarl5505axis got smacked end of story.
@@KC-nn5wcyou act like america/britain weren’t fighting on 2 fronts either. pacific theater and western front
I literaly had games with axis where team surronded obejctive with 5 rally points and still somehow lost against Americans... Still have no idea how
It's just because bad players are bad man.
@@robertsteiner4696 bad Player dont build rally points
@@funtecstudiovideos4102 rallies being built don't change the fact bad players either A don't use them or B aren't good enough to capitalise even on good rally spawn locations. It is what it is man
@@robertsteiner4696 so much Blood that day, i cant wash it of my hands
Major be selling his soul to the snail and jumping on the “Germany-Suffers”-Armored-train just so he doesn’t have to make a new golden weapon order review
But jokes aside I’m still waiting for that review tho
I like the Armoured Train part of this comment lol
The first thing I thought when this whole meme started was "Didnt allies used to suffer in Normandy and Japan dominate in Pacific". Glad to see someone bring it up. After playing Planetside 2 for years this same stuff would happen every month, and it all came down to population and the groups of people who were playing and actually playing well. One faction would get a really good weapon people would complain on the forums, and then you would play an opposing faction in a good team and dominate said weapon users with ease. It truely is for the most part psychological.
Formerly an Enlisted player, I played both German and Soviet armies but I progressed further on the German side.
Played mainly in the Stalingrad Campaign because I enjoyed fighting in the city, and around snow covered factories in the country side.
Before the merge, I could just buy items for specific campaigns because I was good at doing challenges but now I have to grind to unlock things I use to be able to just buy.
The worst part of the merge is the destruction of historical accuracy in terms of armourment. I was thrown off seeing specific tanks, and guns that shouldn't be in certain battles.
I miss being able to select specific battles I'd like to participate in. Likely I'll never return to Enlisted but I had a lot of fun playing it till the Merge.
same here man I've been here since the start of the game but after the merge it just honestly completely lost my interest
Never liked the merge tbh. Felt like it wasn't as good as it would have been if it was kept. Also i lost my extra Stalingrad slots (after pre-ordering it) so that was just a slap to the face or an insult rather
fr man... seing an STG-44 on a Moscow Battle Front isnt even Realistic
didnt they say at one point that they want to give xp boost if you play a faction that is weaker at the moment?
Incoming permanent 200% XP boost for Japan..... (It's the only incentive that would work for JP low tier grinding against fucking Shermans, Thompsons, and BARs)
0:22 Its just the historically accurate progression of the war LOL
As an Axis main though this is unfortunate news. My USSR main friend will be pleased though.
6:56 A GAME THEORY
Enlisted was fun during the alpha and super early on when it was just bolt actions, SMGs and light tanks. Now it's everything wrong with war thunder: Infantry edition
Oh brother I cannot manage to get a tier III gun without being thrown at a tier 5 bullshit feast
I've used to suffer, but now I am running both ass 4 squad and Horn stg squad and my experience improved significantly
I've honestly never had a complaint about being a Germany main. I'm still grinding the tree, and all the good players are against you, but the weapons are good and the variety of maps is excellent.
Im forced to play BR 5 because I always get uptiered and USA and soviets have over all just better stuff at BR 2
No@@milchbrot0608
Dude, you put my Reddit post in your video! That’s so cool to see
>be new player
>finish doing event for HornSTG
>use it as your only t5 squad
>say Germany suffers.
As someone who is full Tier 5 I still stay Germany suffers. But personally I think that Tier 1-3 is the part where Germany actually suffers because of all the uptiered matches.
You didnt understand what I meant.
@@TITANONE. I do know what you meant but you say it like only noobs with one BR 5 squad say that Germany suffers which is not true
@@milchbrot0608 I agree everyone says Germany suffers cuz its true , playberbase shifts , Noobs with one t5squad its not because bad weapons and vehicles .
Do Tier 5 only play with other Tier 5? I thought they could play with at least tier 3?
I survived the dark days of axis Tunisia main b4 the merge. I learned to embrace the suck and learned to have fun whilst the defeats by learning how to troll the allies.
I never understood this. Having been a axis tunesia main i around a 75-80% win rate. axis moscow was by far the most brutal
American Teams when you play axis: basically space-marine-doomslayers
American teams if you play America: Can't get the first cap, even if it is the one u cap in 10 seconds.
Kinda funny how post merge I’ve done like around 20 berlin matches and only won 2 of them as Germany, both conquest mode because motorcycles don’t win games lol
so I played the axis faction yesterday and I think that its regaining a playerbase again, but the problem is that most new players either choose the US or axis faction at first, and by now they will probably earned a gold weapon order by now and spent it on a late game weapon like the FN model etc, and they dont know that those weapons automatically put them in high tier matches, and with the current tech tree (which is miles better than before the merge, I was wrong) doesnt give players a clear sign of engineer squads, and because of that the new players dont know the significance of engineers, and then the high tier matches have players who cant really contribute much in rallies etc. and then the few players who remain playing tier V axis matches leave because they just solo carry the entire team only to no avail, but now i think its going back, its like keepy ups, the ball changes foot every or every other kick, just like the player base at every update or so
You can earn gold weapons without spending money what?
Reminds me of War Thunder... Germany Suffers
Just like the stock market, player skill fluctuates
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I ended up quitting because 7/10 matches ended up feeling boring because my team would just crush the enemy team. I couldn't get any kills all the obj were done it was just boring while the enemy team had no rallies kr anything
What fraction?
@@milchbrot0608 if you meant faction I was playing both krauts and americans, while indeed it wasn't a huge number of matches I played(only about 15 or 20) I just lost all motivation since my friends moved on from the game and work got in the way too.
honestly, i think its just because of the player's skill levels. new players often pick axis at first and then tries out the allies later
God damn it man, this is actually amazing. Not even a day later you posted this video, the axis powers win every match by a large margin... Fantastic.
It's great 🎉
Soy jugador de todas las naciones, (menos Japón) y hay demasiados panzer 3 en la línea de investigación, tier 3 es complicado, las armas son poco variadas y están “nerfed”, y las opciones son limitadas, los estadounidenses son la mejor facción actualmente a mi parecer, la más equilibrada y divertida.
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Major McDonadds lost at combat since February 27 2024 RIP Major McDonadds Enlisted will add more but you will never add more to TH-cam.
He died?
Oh ok.
Hey I hope you could make a video about the Japan faction, since like in lower BR you lose like ALL the time. It also doesn't help that American tanks are so op like for example the Mk1 Grant, no BR1 tank of Japan could pen that, even the ha go tank (the one with the most armor in BR2) unless you know the weakpoint. Life is pain man playing as Japan
Doesn't help that Japanese CAS is so bad compared to the US ones as well. And they get airspawns
Used to do pretty decent at enlisted as an axis main, haven't played in a while but it looks like my boys need me might come back
I am suffering as an Axis player, I've just lost 3 battles with boosters in a row, I kept losing because I'm a tier 1 but I kept fighting against tier 3-4. Please make the pain stop..
Check Guns...
@00:13 Stuka? Bro u drunk or something?
As a War Thunder player, you've gotten me interested in Enlisted. GG sir.
The best rifle that got mentioned here is literally unobtainable by now lmao
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Great analysis, hopefully it will help people let go of this silly “faction suffers” ideology and just play the game :)
Japan suffers
@@mcarrowtime7095 Low tier germany too, its unironically weak (better then japan tho, if we dont count their at rifle).
Funny that I returned to Enlisted after some time on the same day this video went into my recommendation.
I played four games, one for each faction, Allies won every one, and only one of them wasn't a total wipeout
I am in the video lol. (Simon von Prajz)
I'm an axis main and usually the only one building rallies ANS playing the obj. I love tanks, but often can't okay them because if I don't sweat the obj we lose
True. You need to protect the point from guys, fight enemy tanks and give *usable* respawns at the same time, much easier to do with hammer.
"Skill issue" is the only response you get from Enlisted players.
Paratroopers, P47s, Shermans camping at the edge of the map.
Not to mention the damn people bringing level 1 equipment to level 5 games.
you done making content brother?
I just downloaded this game on steam and instantly saw this video... we really are being watched
Lmfaoo same
3:35 so you ask of us remaining german player to abuse the king tiger 2h and ap spamm?😂😂😂😂😂 perhaps by enemy quitting the game we win more(actually i noticed that way more german players play very unfair, like grayzone camping with king tiger and ap spamming didnt happen yet)
Also remove the 10% damage reduction for bodyarmor wich should be cosmetic
Yea no allies greyzone jumbo every match 😂
Man. This is a well made video
I stopped playing the game because it felt soulless, the community felt invisible and dead, the game is way too easy when I had like 200 kill games with low tier equipment and all the pay to win stuff, braindead AI, dunno, the game could be good but eh, oh and on some maps we would just spawnkill the enemy team and I would literally have to wait at the front of the enemy spawn and sit there for 5 mins to find one enemy squad
That happens when you dogpile onto the most overpopulated faction. Its your own doing
@@ZealothPL sorry for being good at the game
@@person4436 high probability you aren't actually good, you just fight only very weak teams and then complain its borin
One idea would could be, wich sjf and me brought off an underdog bonus: if the playerbase is 50% of what is needed, an bonus of 50% extra xp, and for every ai replacement 10% xp extra. would improve other problems of player leaving an non winable game to a degree
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Thank you for sharing
I am a german main and US second, with a good squad you can win. But it's such a pain without having to sacrifice wave after wave. It's like when Japan first came out, every match was a slaugther with Japanese players blitzing the map. It's a matter of server and player competency sometimes when half the team is tier i-ii and you have tier iv. People have to pull their weight in a server.
Atrocious take. Does not explain anything. Allies winning 95% of the time constantly can not be explained away with cognitive bias. What a joke.
Im soo glad I fully leveled up all nations before merge happens. I'm just here clicking on join any team.
You're absolutely right. Balance doesn't just mean mirroring everything across factions, but giving different factions different strengths. Giving them flavour. And in a combined arms game, that also means having different factions being strong at different features.
Your faction is weak at infantry but strong at armor? Well, how about you bring a vehicle to the fight.
Your faction is weak at armor? Maybe bring aircraft.
Use the strong part of your faction to overcome the weaknesses.
I don't play Enlisted, but I know the same situation from other games. One faction seems completely overpowered and imbalanced, than suddenly it shifts and a different faction starts dominating. Without any changes to the gear, just a change in player population.
I don't play Enlisted but played War Thunder extensively. I remember during New Year sale, BR 10.0 for Russia became absolutely unbearable, pretty sure I was losing at least 8/10 games. The reason being a lot of new players buying 10.0 premium tanks during the sale, causing the win rate for 10.0 Russia to plummet.
Come back and make videos again man. Enjoy them.
yeah, I have to agree more with any point here that it's really just a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Way too often I see Axis players - both in War Thunder (as Germany) and Enlisted - just playing well, kind of stupidly. Crutching on their Tigers, STG's, and so on because they're supposedly just superior and better. And when that doesn't work, it must just be some kind of mistake on the developers' part. While those they're fighting against think the same thing, and actually take them seriously as opponents. Because they aren't expecting their rifles, tanks, etc, to carry them. Instead playing smart, avoiding throwing themselves into the meat grinder, flanking, and placing rally points instead of the typical W + M1 gameplay you see from Axis/Germany.
Honestly, even so, I'd say you can argue either faction is stronger or being biased toward/against. But at the end of the day, no FG42 or King Tiger can defeat a player who simply shoots first and plays smarter, regardless of what they're using. And really, I've played either side in both games, and as simple as it sounds, just recognizing the patterns of players and getting better at the game makes up for any disparity in balance.
I wouldn't say this effect is as pronounced in Enlisted as it is in WT. I see similar things from both Axis and other factions more often, and it's more associated with tanks than small arms. But it's definitely present nonetheless. My advice though, for anyone who's struggling: Don't play absent-mindedly. You can get good at the game in a matter of days if you think about why you died, instead of getting frustrated about it. Change your tactics, try different loadouts, and different flank routes. Learn to read maps, and you'll start noticing the patterns. Doubling down on what you're already doing, just more aggressively, only rushes you to your death faster.
Axis player here. At BR V the thing I see the most is mostly skill issue on german side. I went from near 68%wr to near 43% since Christmas and most of the losses were with suicide planes, suicide infantry (suicide players in general, to be short) BR I or II tanks on BR V, people with only Horn squad as tier V and the rest very low tier and so forth. More than "equipment balance", I feel there is a lot of people just camping or doing nothing. I'd seen things so extreme as 6 kills and 14 squad respawns with some regularity. After the 251 event, with people still not building rallies but the 251 doing it's work, things got a bit better in my experience.
I don't know in other servers, but in NA often the experience seems to be "steamroll" or "be steamrolled"
2:54 of course the Fedorov does more damage than the STG, it has a higher caliber after all.
As a German main hearing that, not only do soviets get better assault rifles (this I knew), but they also get a 10% damage reduction, which is insane. On top of that the fact that they get access to panzerfouses is utterly stupid. Gajin has always been biased toward russian factions, and in enlisted it shows more than ever.
This is honestly why i believe Hell let loose is perfect because both all factions are balanced and both get something similar in terms of gear and even get diverse gear specific to their own faction/nation
Enlisted would be better if you simply could lock a faction you play. Imagine if 80% of population in HLL decided to only play for one side - suddenly the game would be "imbalanced mess"
Thank you so much for this video! Like you said, each faction is strong in their own right. The Soviets with their rifles, the Americans with their planes, the Germans with their tanks, and the Japanese with their submachine guns.
So, getting about halfway through the video. The issue is the exact one seen in the older sibling game War Thunder.
People go in believing a whole bunch of the "Germany produced the best stuff" myths and subconsciously believe they can effortlessly win without effort. So they don't put the effort in. Then, you end up with a community-wide skill issue.
So because they're losing, they think the game has incorrectly represented the myths they believed and refused to shift from that mentality.
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I started playing the game again a few months ago, I always play with allies and axis. I think I lost a total of 5 games with the Americans (I'm BR 3) and 90% with the Germans (BR 4). I have more fun with blondes, I want to unlock the Italian weapons so I would hate to give up. I also tried to start leveling the Soviets, but after losing two games in a row after only 10 minutes, I abandoned the idea. Im glad that you ve talk about this huge problem in a video.
As someone who plays war thunder there is a similar issue that happens on some nations right now such as the Us in top tier
I’m a German main (tier 5 I believe). But this is news to me. For the games I’m in it’s relatively balanced on wins and loses. And the most common matches we end up losing are against the Americans. But on the other end with fighting the Soviets it’s even more balanced from my experience. Sometimes I have a win streak or a lose streak but majority of those battles are always really close.
One I had not to long ago we were getting our asses handed to us and we were pushed to the last defensive point really quick. Like one after another. But we help that point with tooth and nail and when there troops went down to about 50 left everyone just pushed forward and cleared out the stragglers. Like a full line cinematic counter attack.
One of the best matches I’ve ever had.
Bruh, no one went to play high tier Germany, I was building rallies but no one was going on the point even though there is tank support. So it's everyone fault
it’s actually crazy i still see people running the starter bolt action, i hard carry almost all the time and this is still a HUGE PROBLEM.
Searched for same thing but for war thunder ussr tanks and came across this video. I guess everything also applies there. Great vid. Gave me hope that one day i will see my winrate come back from 30%
as a war thunder player i knew this was gonna happen before enlisted even released, flashy german equipment commonly known as "undefeatable" attracts players who want to use it as a crutch but when presented with the reality that it's not as unkillable as the documentary they saw once claims they get destroyed and then rage on forums and the like
the American Sherman may lack in armour and armour penetration but there were studies shown the the American 75mm was the best infantry support gun of the war compared to the 76mm 90mm and 105mm and coming from a game many tanks main role is infantry support unlike war thunder where the M4A3E2 Jumbo is so out matched by German heavy tanks
Every NAFO boo talks about Sherman this or Sherman that, but I personally love the Long Tom 155 Motor Gun Carriage, M18 Hellcat, and the Chafee.
I just started playing again and not having decent enough weapons to counter high tier experienced players is unnerving. Especially since I have the skill, just not the equipment. Its annoying, and also quite demoralizing.
"Clans" are not "ahead of the game".
They are just regular players with discord and high tier stuff.
In fact, their stacking is what ruins the game.
Yeah, I've literally NEVER seen the U45 kids play the weaker side. Any time I've got to see them, they were 4-stacking against complete empty teams lmao
Howdy Major! Finally a new YT ypload.
"Finally" 😜
cant get over the fact i just had 3 games in a row where my team could'nt take the first checkpoint even though i could constantly get on it without even trying
Me and my friend got Enlisted 2 weeks ago and we played Japan and Germany (mainly Germany) and our first 5 games were all losses. A match usually goes for 20 - 25 minutes, we had 5 games and in an hour we did not win.
comming from planetside 2 this is just a normal thing in games with pre determent factions.
some faction starts to dominate and all the playser flok to that faction, but with that there are so many new and bad players in that faction that another faction starts to dominate and the cycle repeates. it not a balace or X faction problem, its just the nature of theres playerbases
The only axis problem is the game is antiGerman. That's why the game has a low number of players. The futur of Enlisted will be the same as H&G