@@xxspider_queenxx1940 or because it looks like river dale is pretty explicit and that would be pretty wrong to watch people in their teens actually doing things like this.
I wasnt that obsessed with riverdale as much as i was last year but god season 4 is literally SO HORRIBLE. i couldn't eveb finish the last episode on season 4 its so dumb.
Remember when cole sprouse said he was happy he escaped Disney without having to sing, that’s why he didn’t sing in the first musical episode and now...poor kid
Some of you have never burst into a perfectly choreographed dance routine and out of tune song about sugar daddies in front of your high school principal to try and properly celebrate gay rights and it shows
@@rebeccahayes6047 I know...they need to get themselves off this show like as soon as they can. They're ruining their careers and the likeliness of being taken seriously as actors.
These people are gen z. Maybe a few are older but the most actors still belong to Gen z. Gen Z starts with 1995 and ends 2010. (I wrote 2015 but i corrected it) Also, you will be gen z forever, because the next generation will have a new name and your birth date doesn't change magically.
They literally just made him one thing: gay. Not funny. Not caring. Not brave. Not intelligent. He’s literally just a gay guy who does what any stereotypical gay guy from any biased, ignorant form of media would do (always hangs out with girls, likes to be in drag, sings and dances all the time). Smh
And the episode was supposed to be about him, but he only sang ONE song by himself, and the rest were all sung by Cheryl and Toni and the main four. Not even the episode about him focused on him.
And they sang the songs in inappropriate contexts. “Sugar Daddy” is not a song that a teenage girl should be singing to her principal, and “I’m All Sewn Up” is about not being happy with one’s gender reassignment surgery, yet Betty and Jug sang it while they argued. This show is honestly so desperate for attention, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next plot twist was this: “Archie is Jughead’s biological father!”
That kiss was sexual assault. If Kevin ran up and kissed me like that without asking beforehand, I would’ve socked him right in the jaw. Don’t do anything sexual with anyone unless they give you consent.
@@Gloria-ml5jg Well a lot of musical episodes are cringey, so she probably feels like it's a cringey thing the show's doing, but it's cringey on other shows, where as shows can make perfectly non cringey cheer leading episodes
@@_hey_itz_eve_6932 nothing wrong with Cole or his voice, I just find it super weird seeing him sing for the first time, It's pretty uncomforatable and cringyy. He definitely didnt want to either.
Uh so in the comics Kevin clearly stays that he prefers more masculine things and in this they make him more feminine in the show and I don’t know I just don’t like it when when they make all gay characters extremely feminine because then they’re just encouraging stereotypes more and it’s just really sad because I personally hate it when they do that
sadly i just dont feel represented in any media, Feels like shows like riverdale just want me to stuff me face with mackeup, toss my videogames in the trash and have a pillowfight with the gals with a wig on like tf kevin in the comics feels more like me, a guy who just so happens to be gay. not that theres anything wrong with feminine gays, but the media only potrays them. There has too be a balance
@@koolerman4443 I completely agree! I'm lesbian and in media lesbians are portrayed as really tough and hate men and love sports or like super cute and soft and love makeup but I'm a mix of both and that's just never represented.
Lol not to mention the writers are probably a bunch of 40 + year olds who have been out of high school for decades and have no idea how teenagers actually act.
Something I can never understand is why is it so hard for people to remember what they were like when they were younger? I still remember exactly what I was like, my general interests, favorite TV shows, and things about the world that I strongly disliked as a child and a young teenager.
this show had so much potential to be a "Real" *mystery, crime, horror-ish teen drama* type show, but riverdale hass the worst writers who are on drugs all the time. now im worried for caos...
Varchie sounds terrible but Bughead sounds like a middle school insult for when someone gets lice checked and doesn’t come back from the nurse’s office so I’m ok with it 👌
something ive always found weird in this episode is that the character hedwig is transgender or at least has a complicated gender identity, and in riverdale they equate that to basically being a drag queen
Hedwig is... Complicated. She's kinda meant to be a deconstruction of gender and her male and female self are seen as two separate sides of her that must come together for her to find happiness. Its basically a statement that masculine and feminine are two parts of a person and should not be in conflict. Hedwig has been played by anyone of any gender, including cisgender women, in various adaptations of the stage play. So yeah gender with hedwig is complicated. I have not seen Riverdale but it looks like all that complexity went right out the window.
@@asf8648 yeah i didnt really know how to put that into words, but for them to just equate a complicated gender identity to doing drag isnt a great look
@@asf8648 also ive watched the full episode and as well as making their only gay male character a drag queen it takes ALL of the subtlety out of the original show, as well as butchering the songs
@@iwakeupandboomimarat yeah... I feel so sorry people are only seeing Hedwig through this show. The movie is honestly gold and I think a lot of people would relate to the music. They murdered Wig In a Box. I haven't seen this show I just watch these compilations and they butcher the musicals.
she’s also the only one who actually has a naturally good singing voice, it’s like you can’t really hear the autotune in her voice compared to the others
genuinely uncomfortable at how they write any of the non-straight characters. i mean, i'm genuinely uncomfortable at the straight characters too but its like... have the writers ever met a lesbian? talked to a gay guy? yikes.
Ngl this is that kind of episode where they're like "Oh My GoD, rEpReSeNtAtIoN!!" while just enforcing stereotypes about lgbtq+ people. They act as if they've done something while in reality it just shows how they don't know what they're doing
The fact is the principal, whatever his name is, didn't actually say no gay numbers just no sexual numbers which in my opinion is like fine(for a high schol), do drag if want to just, not so sexual
Deiphisha.L. Talang ya I mean mr.honey is the only sane person in all of riverdale telling 16yo kids that they aren’t supposed to sexualize everything they do while these literal millennials that clearly haven’t ever seen a gen z is trying to make a point about how gen z has it bad
@@khfan4life365 Well... it wasn't R-rated. It had sexual themes, sure, but to be R-rated, it would need to have actual nudity or gore or something like that. But I get your point. Sexual themes (regardless of being straight or gay or any sexual orientation) aren't appropriate in a high school talent show
This gives me wattpad flashbacks of when I start a draft with no direction and watch 20 different TV shows and then decide to encorporate it into my 18+ Larry fanfiction.
“we’re generation z” can we not lmao we don’t want to be associated with this mess edit: wow I didn’t realize this got so many likes? thank you all and as May is mental health awareness month, just wanted to remind everyone to lessen the stigma around discussing mental health and to take care of themselves during these volatile times 🤍 hope everyone stays safe and healthy 🙏🏼
Imagine being Cole spouse and getting a role on a "edgy" teen drama so ppl can finally take u seriously and not associate u with disney anymore but then it turns into this
@@DuckybeauROBLOX to be fair after you've signed a 7 season contact might as well try and enjoy it because it has to be fun to shoot...or maybe they're trying not to laugh at the shit they're saying
Olive I love how everyone’s response to this is exactly what you’re saying when there’s lots of evidence that indicates otherwise.... It’s like y’all don’t know a thing about what you’re saying
Kevin: Consider this a peaceful protest, Mr Honey. Me: You're all dressed as this man's sleep paralysis demons, scaring him into letting you have a musical that we know is going to be shitty doesn't seem peaceful at all.
It's definitely not peaceful, and right now I'm contemplating whether it's their protest or their musical that possibly falls under the definition of domestic terrorism
@@hectornerioiv4069 I looked it up and it seems hasn’t done anything broadway related (he’s done professional theatre stuff not broadway) but his brother Corey played Jack Kelly in the broadway production of newsies and originated the role of Donny Novistski in bandstand
@@Sara-yi1lf maybe the vampire Jughead will get decapitated and then start using Archie's body as a host bcos secretly he always had a thing for him. Edit: before anyone gets any wrong ideas, it was just a jojo reference. This is not my fantasy in any way, shape or form.
He should have joined his brother on broadway. He has more singing talent than all the cast put together, and as you said, he HAS had broadway training
@Aida Hehir In the comics he was such a good character. The fact that he was a more feminine gay man didn’t define his whole character. In the show they just turned him into a cliche gay best friend.
Mr president Exactly. In the comics the fact that he was gay wasn’t his only personality trait. He had depth and was such a good character. Shame they had to take such a solid character and ruin him
Yeah I agree! Kevin didn't like to show off his sexuality for something stereotypical. He balanced himself as a gay and being a man at the same time and... THE WRITERS RUINED HIM MAN! MY POOR BABY KEVIN 😭
the cast is genuinely talented and they have to do this i- like lili and casey can actually sing and they’re stuck singing musicals with no relevance to the plot and stuffed with auto tune
I’m sorry, but the Riverdale writers need to get their heads together. How are you going to go from some murder mystery, to a serial killer, to a supernatural tree, back to a mystery, then to High School Musical, and then to some psychological thriller ('Killing Mr. Honey'). My 13-year-old sister can write a better show than this!
I feel bad for the actors, when they auditioned for the first season little did they know it would become... this like season 1 and 2 were good but now. Oh my
i hate that suddenly kevin feels like he's so important and different because he's gay. like people had a problem with him being gay. literally no one cared he's gay
It's funny, because the writers are trying so hard to make the audience hate him by making him antagonize every main character and yet he comes acroos as the most rational and decent person in that godforsaken town.
Mr. Honey: You can't do a performance of Hedwig and the Angry Inch. It's too sexual and not appropriate for high school. Cheryl and Toni: *does overly sexualized dance while singing about sugar daddies to prove him wrong*
They really thought they were doing something... In all seriousness though, they’ve already erased Jugheads sexuality so I think they just want to earn “points” by their rep
@@antha6906 Ikr, I was looking forward to an ace char in a teen show but they erased that and I was like "okay whatever" and then the gay char exists only to make gay jokes and act stereotypical 😭 What are the writers even ON
I stopped watching Riverdale a while back and honestly it’s been more fun watching the spiral from the outside while no longer having any emotional investment in the plot or characters. Absolute chaos.
Can we talk about how Betty made Charles hypnotize her, then she told a kid to go play instead of killing a cat with a rock. And now dark Betty is gone. I don't think that's how mental illness works
The writers were like "yeah let's take one of the most angry punk songs in the show and have them perform it the same way but get this: we don't play any music"
This is the only way I can consume Riverdale's musical moments safely. By watching Sim Mallec's edits. If I tried to consume them in their raw, natural form, I would definitely OD. I have seen British true crime shows, foodie Tiktoks and compilations of circus performers hurting themselves. All of that is NOTHING compared to Riverdale's musical episode.
@@lillyy3470 You poor soul! You have my deepest sympathies. I don't have much but I'll try to send a digital cookie basket your way to make up for that harrowing experience. These are tough times indeed.
Hermione Stranger dude are you kidding me i watch american horror story on my own at like 4am and i don’t even flinch at scenes that are the most brutal and disturbing things a person can see but Riverdale is too much for me my brain would EXPLODE
Sexy actor in late twenties to mid thirties: *EXISTS*
Riverdale: is that a TEEEEEEEEENAGERRRRRRRRR
This comment is underrated
Um the reason they have old people play young people is cause child labor laws.
@@xxspider_queenxx1940 or because it looks like river dale is pretty explicit and that would be pretty wrong to watch people in their teens actually doing things like this.
They literally could have gotten younger looking actors that’s weren’t minors. They always go for the oldest looking ones😭
I mean.. have you SEEN GREASE?
It’s like the writers are like “ok so this show is already ruined, let’s just do whatever we want”
The question now is... Why would they want to do *that*?
I wasnt that obsessed with riverdale as much as i was last year but god season 4 is literally SO HORRIBLE. i couldn't eveb finish the last episode on season 4 its so dumb.
gelato i couldn’t finish halfway through season 3.. the show is so bad i can’t express it
Writers: lets ruin everyones dreams and throw a barchie in there
hahahahhahqha
Cole Sprouse years ago: *Jughead is never going to sing, Jughead doesn’t do that*
Jughead s4 :
Luci Belén Buong literally all I could think about as it was happening😭😭😭😂😂😂they broke him💀
Watching this broke my heart. He's officially dead inside.
A MONTAGE 🤬🤜🏻💥
Luci Belén Buong an alternative:
Riverdale: Oh, we won’t do that. We aren’t *that* show.
Riverdale s2+:
Julia Luby Lmfao yes, He said he hates it anyways
The fact that Kevin's only personality trait is being gay 💀
It's TRUEE i dont know anything else about him except that his dad is the sheriff... Being gay is the only trait they gave him😭😭😭😭
True I've never noticed it before
True tho
@@skitt1706 trueeeee, plus Archie's basically 'confused hot guy' I-
and being in a cult with his boyfriend who is in a gang 😌
Everybody: wow riverdale can’t get any worse
The writers: hold my coffee
Sabine Therrien I think you meant for the writers to say “hold my crack pipe”
Hold their coffee cause it's what writers drink but the Riverdale ones aren't actual writers so they drink vodka instead and that's how we get this
Pshhhhhh more like hold my meth cocaine ecstasy cake-
Sabine Therrien It just gets worse every second
FR😂😂😂
“We’re generation z” - said by a millennial acting as a gen z
said by a millennial acting as a gen z who can bearly act as a millennial 😂
Right 😂😂
Lili and KJ are Gen Z. Gen Z starts with 1995.
hiamyflp 1997 but KJ is still Gen z.
We don’t claim him
Remember when cole sprouse said he was happy he escaped Disney without having to sing, that’s why he didn’t sing in the first musical episode and now...poor kid
i hope he doesn't renew his contract with Riverdale and just goes to shoot documentaries poor boy let him just talk
HAHSHAHAHHA
He sucks at singing
Chloe J / He actually doesn’t
Claire Harper 😂😂😂 #lethimtalk
Kevin: "were generation z"
Gen z: "he doesnt even go here"
That had me rolling
BAHAHAH 😂
STOP THIS IS THE BEST COMMENT
Damian 😂😂
KJ and Lili are Gen Z!
“we’re gen z”
this is why they don’t like us
Lmao this is NOT gen Z. Hollywood wants it to be gen Z. So cringe and edgy.
Let’s be real gen z doesn’t even know about that musical (being one of them I can attest that if I asked anyone my age think my mouth spasm’d)
Ray Selle I don’t claim any of ya’ll who act like this
Maxym W ive heard of it, but i’ve never listened to it.
This is why we hate ourselves
this show hit rock bottom, and now it’s digging through the rock.
Best way to describe it
Most accurate comment I’ve ever read
lmao this is so accurate
the accuracy-
more like drilling down through the rock at warp speed 😂😂
Some of you have never burst into a perfectly choreographed dance routine and out of tune song about sugar daddies in front of your high school principal to try and properly celebrate gay rights and it shows
LMAO
It hurts my soul 😔
this comment SENDS ME LMAOOOOO
what did they even think he would do? 🤣
LMFAOO
WHY IS EVERYONE KISSING ARCHIE WTF
The only part that’s accurate to the comics
Lol yeah
What is the name of the song 3:43
that’s basically the whole show
might as well kiss jughead while he's at it
I hope the Riverdale actors get paid enough to be able to afford the therapy sessions they undoubtedly need after this
💀
notnosa i think i would actually off myself.i genuinely don’t think i could do two more seasons of this if i were them.
@@rebeccahayes6047 i would do anything to pay myself off like.....
💀💀💀
@@rebeccahayes6047 I know...they need to get themselves off this show like as soon as they can. They're ruining their careers and the likeliness of being taken seriously as actors.
Riverdale crack edits arent even crack edits anymore they're literally just clips of the actual show
Niamh Kelly bc literally they embarrass themselves
I- HOW DID THIS COMMENT GET THIS MANY LIKES
cause the show is just crack
@@TrinityBopp the show is jingle jangle
Niamh Kelly I was actually confused what was what 😂
I think that the writers hate the actors and this show is a whole scheme to ruin their careers.
Now that's a good theory!
That's got to be it
1:24 SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THIS SONG IS
Gena omg whyyy....
Seriously. This is the only theory that makes sense at this point
Them pretending to be Gen Z when they're screaming millenial energy
Claiming to be from Gen Z is so not street cred.
@@jojojo89517 Fr
These people are gen z. Maybe a few are older but the most actors still belong to Gen z. Gen Z starts with 1995 and ends 2010. (I wrote 2015 but i corrected it)
Also, you will be gen z forever, because the next generation will have a new name and your birth date doesn't change magically.
@@CanopusLux That’s not true sis. Gen Z starts with 2000 and ends with 2009-2010
I hate the fact that I share that energy with them
when they said "we are gen Z" I cried a little, and realized I was too old to be watching riverdale- even ironically 😭
BAHAHAH MY FAVE COMMENT
LMAO MEGAN XDD
Wtf
You make colorful roblox videos for crying outloud wtf do you mean?
i’m dead i did not expect to see you here
When we said give Kevin more screentime and an actual storyline, we didn't mean this. YIKES
They literally just made him one thing: gay. Not funny. Not caring. Not brave. Not intelligent. He’s literally just a gay guy who does what any stereotypical gay guy from any biased, ignorant form of media would do (always hangs out with girls, likes to be in drag, sings and dances all the time). Smh
And the episode was supposed to be about him, but he only sang ONE song by himself, and the rest were all sung by Cheryl and Toni and the main four. Not even the episode about him focused on him.
And they sang the songs in inappropriate contexts. “Sugar Daddy” is not a song that a teenage girl should be singing to her principal, and “I’m All Sewn Up” is about not being happy with one’s gender reassignment surgery, yet Betty and Jug sang it while they argued. This show is honestly so desperate for attention, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next plot twist was this: “Archie is Jughead’s biological father!”
@@proctorritter5176 LMAO. Riverdale gets a lot of attention. But this is just NOT it. Not at all.
That kiss was sexual assault. If Kevin ran up and kissed me like that without asking beforehand, I would’ve socked him right in the jaw. Don’t do anything sexual with anyone unless they give you consent.
are we sure that Riverdale isn’t a comedy? are we ABSOLUTELY sure?
msf the1st are we positive that this hasn’t been junie b. Jones satire the entire time
msf the1st a comedy that likes to kill off its own characters
honestly, I laughed for the entire video lmao
no.
Why are people no fun🙄 like the people with a sense of humor thanks for the comments. “No.” 🙄 was it necessary?
Archie kissing every single person in riverdale Betty, cheraly, keven, Veronica, ...
Josie and Valerie too, that makes 6
He's been with basically every girl on the show
@@tamarakadeishvili7214 JOAQUIN AHAFSGSY
He could've at least kissed Bughead. Just cause.
@@tamarakadeishvili7214 I do but I won't fix it cus it's funny
grundy
i imagine this goes on in lili reinharts head when she reads the script
She said that this tipe of episode are her favorite, I hate them 😂
@@Gloria-ml5jg well im guessing making the episodes bts were so fucking funny because I mean.. look at it. Its so retarded 😂
In Lili's head when she reads the script:
"Well, my condo won't make payments on itself."
@@Gloria-ml5jg Well a lot of musical episodes are cringey, so she probably feels like it's a cringey thing the show's doing, but it's cringey on other shows, where as shows can make perfectly non cringey cheer leading episodes
the writers of this show are definitely on jingle jangle
that even is a monStrosity on its own what kind of name is THISSSS
@@therealriahlela ikr
omg yes
Drugs, but make it Christmas 🎄✨
THIS KILLED ME
i literally refuse to believe that this is a real show
IT IS😂😂😂😂
IT IS HILARIOUS😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@magicalwizard9539 Yes, it is! And the cinematography is pleasing to the eye!
hiamyflp uhhhh what
@@palmtain2095 Prolly that person is being sarcastic.
i just know the entire cast of that show wants to be fired so bad
dylan’s probably having so much fun teasing cole lmao
Dylan is in After 2 movie too.So I guess Cole gonna have fun too😂
Dylan to Cole whenever he sees him: “I’m alsSsSsSsSsSssssssssssssSssSsssSsssSsssSsssssSssssSssoooooooooo numb”
Oponis World it’s sewn up ( not trying to be mean )
Lol yea
F in the chat for Kole Spors
I feel so bad for cole. My man survived his disney courier without singing and had to sacrifice for CW, LMAO
I think I like his voice.
@@hiamyflp I agree. But the song was just... WHY
yea
But I like hi voice
@@_hey_itz_eve_6932 nothing wrong with Cole or his voice, I just find it super weird seeing him sing for the first time, It's pretty uncomforatable and cringyy. He definitely didnt want to either.
the thing that gets me the most is the sudden contrast between their normal voices and their singing voices like ??? they don’t match at ALL
loonathekitchen the cast has decent singing voices but they overload it with auto tune and it ends up sounding awful
and thats on using auto tune
BETTYS VOICE I-
FOR REAL, when i saw that clip of jughead singing on twitter i didnt even think it was real because his voice did NOT sound like him at alllll
Harmony Diys BETTY IS GOOD BUT JUGHEAD AND CHERYL BYE-
Uh so in the comics Kevin clearly stays that he prefers more masculine things and in this they make him more feminine in the show and I don’t know I just don’t like it when when they make all gay characters extremely feminine because then they’re just encouraging stereotypes more and it’s just really sad because I personally hate it when they do that
I agree. There ofc are more feminine gays but there are still masculine gays
Because CW doesn’t care about the lgbtq community and actually getting the canon representation right. They’ve already erased Jugheads sexuality
@@antha6906 Yeah, I know. Sometimes TV shows and movies do a great job of lgbtq+ representation like IANOWT and others mangle it completely
sadly i just dont feel represented in any media, Feels like shows like riverdale just want me to stuff me face with mackeup, toss my videogames in the trash and have a pillowfight with the gals with a wig on like tf kevin in the comics feels more like me, a guy who just so happens to be gay. not that theres anything wrong with feminine gays, but the media only potrays them. There has too be a balance
@@koolerman4443 I completely agree! I'm lesbian and in media lesbians are portrayed as really tough and hate men and love sports or like super cute and soft and love makeup but I'm a mix of both and that's just never represented.
A whole bunch of 30 year olds: "wErE gEnErAtIoN z"
Lol not to mention the writers are probably a bunch of 40 + year olds who have been out of high school for decades and have no idea how teenagers actually act.
Something I can never understand is why is it so hard for people to remember what they were like when they were younger? I still remember exactly what I was like, my general interests, favorite TV shows, and things about the world that I strongly disliked as a child and a young teenager.
As a Gen Zer I don’t claim them
1:24 SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THIS SONG IS
@@wowno.2269 Te Amo - Humberto Tozzi
this show had so much potential to be a "Real" *mystery, crime, horror-ish teen drama* type show, but riverdale hass the worst writers who are on drugs all the time. now im worried for caos...
Stantheweirdome if they ruin caos I will cry, they already added loads of singing in s3
Fr though,im scared for CAOS for part 4 since this season already doing some riverdale shit but fortunately it still goodly decent season
@@willowkpx imagine a musical...
Stantheweirdome I don’t wanna think about it
Willow Parnell ngl they lowkey already ruined it lmao
The fact that they use the ship names SENDS ME 😭
Emily Mcdougall when they were like and “choni” i was like... whut
"aww... EtHeLhEaD???" like... stop. please.
Varchie sounds terrible but Bughead sounds like a middle school insult for when someone gets lice checked and doesn’t come back from the nurse’s office so I’m ok with it 👌
@@ChantoStarX fr 😂😂😂
@@ElliotGien yees
This show is what happens when 40 year old millennials try to represent younger generations
tru lol
“cheryl threw the first brick at stonewall” LMFAO I LOST IT
same
LMAOO
I just got to that point and I had to pause for a moment to just appreciate it
LABAKAHAJAHAHA
SAME OMFG
I don't even know what this show is anymore, but all I do know is that its HILARIOUS.
It's like The Room. Ridiculous but entertaining. A filmic trainwreck where everybody survives, falls in love and then re-enacts an episode from Glee.
Avneet Sehmi ikr , i was laughing all through the episode
@@hermionestranger4964 oop
She meant “ K is X squared minus one”. “K” is a common variable used in math. I do maths 😉
Avneet Sehmi im just going to say CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE
Nobody:
Seriously, nobody:
Jughead and Betty: *HISS*
Veronica in the background: *dramatically screams and trashes a desk*
Ssssssssssssssssssssown up
sssssss, like was that even necessary, and there all being dramatic throwing things around lmao
Will Byers the ssss is in the real song but why were they yelling lyrics and throwing stuff?!
when they started hissing i literally SCREAMED laughing and when he randomly started shout singing 💀💀
Isi St. wait i thought jughead was dead LMAO
something ive always found weird in this episode is that the character hedwig is transgender or at least has a complicated gender identity, and in riverdale they equate that to basically being a drag queen
Yeah they don’t care about actually representation
Hedwig is... Complicated. She's kinda meant to be a deconstruction of gender and her male and female self are seen as two separate sides of her that must come together for her to find happiness. Its basically a statement that masculine and feminine are two parts of a person and should not be in conflict. Hedwig has been played by anyone of any gender, including cisgender women, in various adaptations of the stage play. So yeah gender with hedwig is complicated. I have not seen Riverdale but it looks like all that complexity went right out the window.
@@asf8648 yeah i didnt really know how to put that into words, but for them to just equate a complicated gender identity to doing drag isnt a great look
@@asf8648 also ive watched the full episode and as well as making their only gay male character a drag queen it takes ALL of the subtlety out of the original show, as well as butchering the songs
@@iwakeupandboomimarat yeah... I feel so sorry people are only seeing Hedwig through this show. The movie is honestly gold and I think a lot of people would relate to the music. They murdered Wig In a Box. I haven't seen this show I just watch these compilations and they butcher the musicals.
lili reinhart looks so done. she just looks like she doesn’t wanna be there lmao
Whenever she's in interviews with the cast promoting the show she looks genuinely pissed.
it’s so annoying that she’s actually a good actor and she has to deal with this writing
She is such a mood tbh lol
she’s also the only one who actually has a naturally good singing voice, it’s like you can’t really hear the autotune in her voice compared to the others
Ashlyn Jennifer Ik like imagine being in hustlers and then having to go back to this
genuinely uncomfortable at how they write any of the non-straight characters. i mean, i'm genuinely uncomfortable at the straight characters too but its like...
have the writers ever met a lesbian? talked to a gay guy?
yikes.
what makes it worse is that the writer is a gay guy
@@ajcramerirl uhh what?????? not trine be homphobic but thats probably why river dale sucks , I mean I hate this episode
thankyounextera x Lol what does the writer being gay have to do with him being a bad writer
@@paranoidastronaut5792 d-did you read the og comment
@@paranoidastronaut5792 i never said theres anything wrong, everyone says the writers are bad so
This show makes Glee looks like a masterpiece because at least Glee is consistent to their theme as musical comedy.
glee IS a masterpiece
Ok, Archie naming his band the “archies” is the only thing related to the original comics but this editing left me ROLLING. AHAHAHAH
Glee IS a masterpiece. Periodt
Lmaoo, I ain’t never heard sum more true 😂
Glee we’re supposed to be a parody. That just went over so many peoples heads. Riverdale it’s just bad.
Ngl this is that kind of episode where they're like "Oh My GoD, rEpReSeNtAtIoN!!" while just enforcing stereotypes about lgbtq+ people. They act as if they've done something while in reality it just shows how they don't know what they're doing
Anyone else really sick of all the "daddy" bullshit in this show
*daddykins*
*H E L L O D A D D Y , H E L L O M O M*
Kawaii Chann :3 I’M YOUR CH-CH-CH-CH-CH-CH-CH-CH CHERRRY BOMBBB
It's creepy, especially with grown ass man showrunners
ya HELLO DADDY *lift up skirt to the world*
at this point riverdale is so bad it’s FUNNY.
Honestly I would think the same but it actually hurts me physically just watching this
It used to be funny but now it just hurts
The fact is the principal, whatever his name is, didn't actually say no gay numbers just no sexual numbers which in my opinion is like fine(for a high schol), do drag if want to just, not so sexual
Deiphisha.L. Talang ya I mean mr.honey is the only sane person in all of riverdale telling 16yo kids that they aren’t supposed to sexualize everything they do while these literal millennials that clearly haven’t ever seen a gen z is trying to make a point about how gen z has it bad
right like obviously you're not supposed to have R-rated shows in a high school
Exactly. You can’t have an R-rated show in the school theater. That’s not “phobic”. That’s just the rules.
@@khfan4life365 Well... it wasn't R-rated. It had sexual themes, sure, but to be R-rated, it would need to have actual nudity or gore or something like that. But I get your point. Sexual themes (regardless of being straight or gay or any sexual orientation) aren't appropriate in a high school talent show
This gives me wattpad flashbacks of when I start a draft with no direction and watch 20 different TV shows and then decide to encorporate it into my 18+ Larry fanfiction.
same
“we’re generation z” can we not lmao we don’t want to be associated with this mess
edit: wow I didn’t realize this got so many likes? thank you all and as May is mental health awareness month, just wanted to remind everyone to lessen the stigma around discussing mental health and to take care of themselves during these volatile times 🤍 hope everyone stays safe and healthy 🙏🏼
I knowwww😂 let's just pretend it didn't exist
Millennials are the crazy ones
yeah can we as gen z just collectively agree disassociate from riverdale
Ikr? 😂🤷♀️
1:24 SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THIS SONG IS
I swear to god ! The principal is the only sane person this town
Watch as he turn into a murder out of the blue
@@tiny_terry2678 they're probably going to make him to be the one that's sending those weird video tapes
Cora Pytel then why did he chose to be the principal of RIVERDALE HIGH that is INSANE
Cora Pytel and pop
RIGHT like every episode the students are trying to control him but he's literally just trying to have a normal school
Riverdale seems like a wattpad story written by a 12 year old.
I think a 12 year old would do a better job than the writers
Bella Pearce WHY IS THIS SO ACCURATE
Who sort of lost motivation after the first chapter
no a 12 year old would do better a 4th grader
CHANTO hell even after was better than 4x17
jughead and betty screaming at each others is probably the most cringy thing I've seen so far lol
I feel so bad for the cast, they must be so embarrassed
Imagine being Cole spouse and getting a role on a "edgy" teen drama so ppl can finally take u seriously and not associate u with disney anymore but then it turns into this
It looks like some of them are enjoying it too much in the scenes
Like a bit too enthusiastic
@@DuckybeauROBLOX to be fair after you've signed a 7 season contact might as well try and enjoy it because it has to be fun to shoot...or maybe they're trying not to laugh at the shit they're saying
Olive I love how everyone’s response to this is exactly what you’re saying when there’s lots of evidence that indicates otherwise.... It’s like y’all don’t know a thing about what you’re saying
Jason is probably happy that he got killed so he doesn’t have to watch this
HAHAGAFFDHW
omfg i-😂💀
That's why the principal of Jug's new school actually killed himself, the misery is solved!
Ikr
OMGGGG WHERE IS THESE FOOTAGE?!?! SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME! WHEN THE HECK DID THEY DRESS LIKE DRAG QUEENS?! HUHHHH??
Kevin: Consider this a peaceful protest, Mr Honey.
Me: You're all dressed as this man's sleep paralysis demons, scaring him into letting you have a musical that we know is going to be shitty doesn't seem peaceful at all.
Just imagine how non - peaceful protests would be lol
@@viquitowers2815 .....Sexual assault while dressing as....whoever that is they dressed up ass
It's definitely not peaceful, and right now I'm contemplating whether it's their protest or their musical that possibly falls under the definition of domestic terrorism
I'm screaming! Lmaooooo!!! 🤣🤣
To be fair, it’s very close to the actual hedwig costume I’m just not sure that teens should be doing a musical about very sexualized drag queens
Kevin's actor is actually a Broadway actor but its sad he got put into this show 😓
What was he in?
Also no wonder why he had great signing
@@hectornerioiv4069 hmmm idk which one exactly
@@hectornerioiv4069 I looked it up and it seems hasn’t done anything broadway related (he’s done professional theatre stuff not broadway) but his brother Corey played Jack Kelly in the broadway production of newsies and originated the role of Donny Novistski in bandstand
simplistic_madi oh ok 👌🏽 thanks for the info
people i tell you at the end of this show Jughead will turn into a emo-vampire, betty will turn bi, archie will die and veronica will marry reggie
They aint gonna kill archie cause the only reason ppl Even watch this anymore is bcz of his abs lol
Let's not forget about Kevin's long lost relative.
that's all i''ve ever wanted since the beginning
@@Sara-yi1lf maybe the vampire Jughead will get decapitated and then start using Archie's body as a host bcos secretly he always had a thing for him.
Edit: before anyone gets any wrong ideas, it was just a jojo reference. This is not my fantasy in any way, shape or form.
i'd be happy if archie died honestly
“I love her lack of energy. Go girl, give us nothing” I’M YELLING OMG
iconic
1:24 SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THIS SONG IS
@@wowno.2269 th-cam.com/video/oHNal_1HPV4/w-d-xo.html
@@floriandebaene6836 omfg ty so much
LMAO WTF
I feel bad for Casey Cott. He’s had professional Broadway training and it’s being thrown away for this God awful show.
Jillian Kusar fr he could do so much better
Agree
Saoirse such a shame too! He was so good in The Who's Tommy last year at the Kennedy Center
He should have joined his brother on broadway. He has more singing talent than all the cast put together, and as you said, he HAS had broadway training
i couldn't control myself "cheryl threw the first brick at stonewall" lmfaoo
I liked Kev better when he wasn’t completely stereotypical like they ruined him.
he is the definition of tv shows stereotyping lgbtq+ people 😍
@Aida Hehir
In the comics he was such a good character. The fact that he was a more feminine gay man didn’t define his whole character. In the show they just turned him into a cliche gay best friend.
Mr president
Exactly. In the comics the fact that he was gay wasn’t his only personality trait. He had depth and was such a good character. Shame they had to take such a solid character and ruin him
Yeah I agree! Kevin didn't like to show off his sexuality for something stereotypical. He balanced himself as a gay and being a man at the same time and... THE WRITERS RUINED HIM MAN! MY POOR BABY KEVIN 😭
They ruined everyone honestly
riverdale is the best comedy show that i have ever watched
Same...same
i like making jokes about it while watching-
hihhii SAME
It’s like they do it on purpose 😭😭😭😭
Abigaël Sévère FR LMAOOO it feels like a satire-
Why can’t they understand that we just don’t want musical episodes
We don't even want episodes
@@JohnDoe-xf8ew or seasons
Just throw the whole damn thing in the trash
I do
I don't want any of it
"I love her lack of energy. Go, girl, give us *N O T H I N G* "
I'm crying.
Nobody:
Literally Nobody:
NoT a SiNgLe PeRsOn:
Kevin: AND MEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Kitty Kyla I’m deadddd
Remember the good old days when jughead didn’t sing in the musical
AHHH
AHHH
aahhhhg yes
When our ears were blessed with his silence.
Or when he wasn't a main character.
We're supposed to hate Mr Honey but he's the only one who's actually not trying to get them killed...
Everything Boujee he’s 100% by far my favourite character
he’s the only sane person in the show-
Yet. 😒
“We’re generation Z....”
Me, a Z-er: Oh God.... good Lord..... cringe cringe cringe!!!
Love how cole sprouse refused to shoot a scene where he burn his clothes BUT he accepted to sing
Tbf he only said no to that scene because it was in the middle of the night & cold and he was tired so he didn't wanna do it lmao
okay but did he sing?
I don't think that was even his voice lmao
Chimney lol it’s still embarrassing
Riverdale is the definition of “yuhhh, get in to ittttt”
underrated comment!!🤣🤣
Ahhhhhh💀💀💀💀
I'm disappointed that Veronica didn't sing Sugar Daddy
such a missed opportunity
Eddierockone yeah lol she says daddy in every episode
the cast is genuinely talented and they have to do this i- like lili and casey can actually sing and they’re stuck singing musicals with no relevance to the plot and stuffed with auto tune
when kevin said “we’re gen z”, I’ve never been more embarrassed to be gen z
edit: thank you guys soo much for the likes!! 💖
Same and it makes it better that they're millenials lmao
I laughed because the cast themselves are all millenials. And he was making a point in that "monologue," it just was not executed properly😂
PREACH
I felt that
Morgan Marsh oh no no no no they said gen z. Period. Keep them 😂😂😂
I’m sorry, but the Riverdale writers need to get their heads together. How are you going to go from some murder mystery, to a serial killer, to a supernatural tree, back to a mystery, then to High School Musical, and then to some psychological thriller ('Killing Mr. Honey').
My 13-year-old sister can write a better show than this!
Yeah from murder mystery to musical lololol
I want more murder mystery and crime tbh
when you said "the supernatural tree" got me, ngl 😂
Fr. It’s starting to be a murder mystery crime scene/musical. Riverdale is literally an entire mess rn
Ok damn girl chill th out I mean your not famouse or anything
so we’re just going to let the writers disrespect casey cott like this
Aubri Skinner #caseydeservesbetter
THANK YOU
"Cheryl threw the first brick at Stonewall" sent me into a wheezing crying mess XD
Casey Cott doesn’t deserve this, he is a broadway star and a COTT for god’s sake
I feel bad for the actors, when they auditioned for the first season little did they know it would become... this
like season 1 and 2 were good but now. Oh my
What's worse is they all signed a six season contract so they are probably stuck for another year or two doing this shit.
S3 started off good but then I stopped mid way. I don't dare watch S4.
I still love season 1. Season 2 i only watch few episodes then give up
At this point any dignity this show had is far gone
Kevin: “We’re generation Z”
Me: Alright, time to stare into the sun until I age at least twenty years
Yeah, we don’t claim them
It's actually a millennial pretending to be gen Z* fixed it
Gen z are kids born in the 2000s these actors are at least 30 😭🤨
We are not even like that. Is it?
gen z goes up to 25 😭
“glee is shaking” is my new favourite phrase
i hate that suddenly kevin feels like he's so important and different because he's gay. like people had a problem with him being gay. literally no one cared he's gay
In the comics, he was such a great character. I mourn it just like I mourned Asexual Jughead. At least Barchie is back!
riverdale is literally so chill with lgbt characters like the only one who’s actually been fucked with is toni
Mélanie does the show even follow the comic guidelines anymore ??
Mélanie kevin was on the football team in the comics
Isaac Why well i think we can all agree this show butchered the comics and should be cancelled
I was cringing the whole episode and the only thing that was in my mind was “sTOP singing please”
I didn't want them to stop singing. I would burst out laughing everytime they started, it was hilarious. :D
But it was funny for all the wrong reasons
How do I get to watch season ?
same😂
I skipped every single singing scene
Mr Honey is like the only one that actually makes sense
If I was him i probably would've already beat up some kid's ass lol
It's funny, because the writers are trying so hard to make the audience hate him by making him antagonize every main character and yet he comes acroos as the most rational and decent person in that godforsaken town.
Yesss😂😂
As a huge fan of glee, I can confirm the entire fandom went silent after this episode dropped.
How so? Were you in shock by how terrible this was?
@@oracletv1557 yesss we were gagging
Mr. Honey: You can't do a performance of Hedwig and the Angry Inch. It's too sexual and not appropriate for high school.
Cheryl and Toni: *does overly sexualized dance while singing about sugar daddies to prove him wrong*
Also, Cheryl's a lesbian. It doesn't make sense that she's asking for a sugar daddy.
hiamyflp so she can get to the bag 💰
hiamyflp toni's her sugar daddy lmao
@@woitsmiles3315 but she doesnt have any money whatsoever😭
The way the depict queer people/drag queens is honestly offensive
They really thought they were doing something... In all seriousness though, they’ve already erased Jugheads sexuality so I think they just want to earn “points” by their rep
@@antha6906 Ikr, I was looking forward to an ace char in a teen show but they erased that and I was like "okay whatever" and then the gay char exists only to make gay jokes and act stereotypical 😭 What are the writers even ON
@@missmoony6800 jingle jangle lmao
The worst of all is that in the musical Hedwig is supposed to be a genderqueer, whose sex-changed operation botched.
As someone who falls in to the feminine/twink (all though I hate the term twink) stereotypes I find literally nothing relatable to Kevin.
I stopped watching Riverdale a while back and honestly it’s been more fun watching the spiral from the outside while no longer having any emotional investment in the plot or characters. Absolute chaos.
LopeForestLope you explained it so well
Same gurrrl SAME!🤣
I still can’t believe my friend who watches Riverdale insulted Glee...
at least glee doesn’t take itself seriously😭😭
How dare they Glee is a masterpiece compared to this
@w1st3r14, at least Glee has standards Riverdale is just awful and cringe
“cheryl threw the first brick at stonewall” sent me into orbit
SAME 😭😭
anyone else notice Kevin wears like the same thing every musical episode
here we go again He’s not important enough to get a new outfit apparently
“i love her lack of energy. go girl give us nothing.” when i say i CACKLED
3:57 the most unrealistic thing in Riverdale is that they expect me to believe in amateur drummer can keep a steady tempo AND SING at the same time
I'm just... I-
The way they portray "being gay" in this show...
It hurts my homosexual heart.
Hey Will how's Nico??
ikr?? like i’m a raging gay but riverdale made me homophobic 😔
Nina Devine LMAOOO honestly tho this show is an embarrassment to television itself
You're rigth...this is so embarassing.I think i dont watch next season bc this is crap
jona asani LMAOO
The sugar daddy scene gave me a lot of cringe
I never thought I was gonna say this but... Poor Mr honey..
Just that one???
I skipped it lol
Can we talk about how Betty made Charles hypnotize her, then she told a kid to go play instead of killing a cat with a rock. And now dark Betty is gone. I don't think that's how mental illness works
Maybe she only assumes she's a psychopath but really isn't and Charles just "hypnotized" her into thinking she's cured though the power of suggestion.
it’s riverdale NONE of it makes sense
the villain last season was a bunch of sticks
the montage scene makes me cry of embarrassment like WHY ARE THEY SHOUTING
The writers were like "yeah let's take one of the most angry punk songs in the show and have them perform it the same way but get this: we don't play any music"
@@butasimpleidiotwizard HELP THATS LITERALLY IT
This is the only way I can consume Riverdale's musical moments safely. By watching Sim Mallec's edits. If I tried to consume them in their raw, natural form, I would definitely OD. I have seen British true crime shows, foodie Tiktoks and compilations of circus performers hurting themselves. All of that is NOTHING compared to Riverdale's musical episode.
omg this is sooo true.. just finish watching it..42 minutes I will never get back..
@@lillyy3470 You poor soul! You have my deepest sympathies. I don't have much but I'll try to send a digital cookie basket your way to make up for that harrowing experience. These are tough times indeed.
Hermione Stranger dude are you kidding me i watch american horror story on my own at like 4am and i don’t even flinch at scenes that are the most brutal and disturbing things a person can see but Riverdale is too much for me my brain would EXPLODE
Chantallxx it was 42 minutes?!
Riverdale's writers are just compiling fan fiction now. It's confirmed.
dont do fanfic this dirty. theres some good stuff out there.
this is worse than fan fic at least theres some good fan ic out there...this has no hope
I don't know why the writers make cole sprouse sing... he clearly can't and doesn't want to
*you can see it in his face*
He's basically said so before. "I survived a childhood Disney career without having to sing and look at what they're making me do!"
When you I read this the scene of cole trying popped up
You can hear the pain in his voice
He’s crying inside
@@abbyidk2309 exactly!
imagine being like a normal student at their school watching this all going on, i would be so tired
Let’s be real we all know mr shue would’ve invited himself to that sleepover-
Blu Moon ABDJSHWJSB i-
Blu Moon im-YESHAHAHAHSJJEJ
STOPPPP
BAHAHAHAHAH GLEE THOUGH- THATS ANOTHER TOPIC FOR ANOTHER DAY-
omg y’all make me laugh sm 😂💛
I cringed SO HARD when the girls performed that sugardaddy song for Honey at the diner.
How profoundly awkward.
love this vid btw haha
After watching this I feel like I need an exorcist
I feel like i need the winchester brothers
Clara Breuer right??? My thoughts exactly.. a little bleach and a little holy water perhaps?
This show is now trash
@@jkrueger95 mate I legit just thought that lol
That Chid lol great minds think alike
They’re just bullying the poor principle now