What an incredible panel and discussion. I don't know how any Star Trek fan xould be mad about the content of this panel. Star Trek, all the way since TOS, has always been political and about inclusion. Not only that, it has NEVER been subtle about it. Go watch the TOS episode Let That Be Your Last Battlefield if you have any delusions that Star Trek somehow used to be subtle about its messaging. Or watch Kirk tell a crewman that bigotry has no place on the bridge. Again, fantastic panel and discussion. 🖖🏻
There was an episode of Enterprise in which they came upon a planet of ppl that was dying of a terminal disease. Another species on that planet had an antibody that could save them but were on the verge of a mental revolution, and if left alone would rise to become the dominant species on the planet within 1000 years. Dr. Phlox made the cure, but in the end, Archer decided not to share its existence as well as warp drive with the dying ppl. Star Trek belt with issues other that just space battles. It truly makes you look at thing objectively.
The issue comes from a “discrimination” that is recognising a difference, based in traits that we at this time shouldn’t even be concerned about. The normalisation process is halted when people decide what is diverse and what isn’t. What “inclusive” really means and all that. We know not everyone out there has it normalised but we should lead by example. Regardless of its plans and goals there was nothing “incredible” about it
It’s education folks. I live in a state where education is no 48 and sports is number 1 in the schools. I get shunned for saying it but I wholeheartedly believe that we need to separate sports from school and make education the quintessential reason for schools to exist.
All this talk about listening to each other, then you look at the comments and see a lot of people have failed that. Was a great panel thanks for uploading
This was so great to watch. I get it, some people hate that they talked about politics so much - but that's the whole point of this event I would imagine, to discuss this sort of stuff and how it effects certain communities. Also, I think this is the first time I heard Kate Mulgrew curse (sort of, she cut herself off at the end lol) but Garret Wang finished it for her :D
I for one as a gay woman really love it when my favourite humans actually defend my rights to be alive and be free! Thank you Kate, Tim, Bob, Robbie & Garrett! You guys are my family! And I’m so glad to have you in my life 🫶🏻🖖🏻
@@TheTapeClub It's disappointing that the writers didn't give Tim Russ a lot of episodes for development despite him being one of the better actors (along with Mulgrew, Picardo and Ryan)
I don't plan to vote and I have the freedom not to. I want to do things that I feel actually make a difference and voting is not one of them, not just because my vote likely won't becthe deciding vote but because I probably agree and disagree on some views that each candidate holds. And whoever wins it won't change the fact that the government is disorganized. Vote if you want to vote, and encourage people to vote all you want, but also do things that will make a tangible difference in the world (not that you don't do that).
It’s not just about gay people, DEI. It’s about everybody. But anyway. I’m a raging lefty and Voyager is my favorite, and I’d watch this panel even if it were done at CPAC.
This was a great panel. I loved it and it's a wonderful concept to have a convention of diversity and inclusion. We need more of this in the world. Thanks for recording it.
Where exactly was this held? In Philadelphia? I'd never heard of this convention before. Thanks so much for sharing it. And was Robbie injured or whybdid ue have that mask or face panties or whatever?
the people here whining about how its so poliitcal (on a diversity & inclusion con ffs) really havent understood the vision of Gene Roddenberry or Rick Berman. The people whining about Roberts mask are even worse. Your life must really be sad if someone on a youtube video wearing a mask offends you.
The only thing is it's hardly inclusive to people who are hard of hearing and read lips, I have good hearing but even I had trouble understanding people who were wearing masks and people had trouble understanding me. But it's a free country and he can wear a mask if he wants or had a reason for it.
I feel like the fact that they had to make an …. ‘Entity’ that’s basically a diversity and inclusion “department” if you will, speaks a lot to the fallacious approach to making sure no one is left behind. Even systemically.
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 so your solution would be to not hold conferences like this where people who feel left out of society still can feel like they re welcome.....?
5:37 we do? That’s random. This isn’t a party Tom 😅 6:17 I don’t get it 6:40 what is he talking about? 9:20 no? Not much. 9:25 who was gayinhis time? lol 9:40 I don’t know we have no proof of that 12:00 what are you talking about? And that has nothing to do with inclusion and diversity. 12:20 I think you’re giving us too much credit. 12:25 You lost me, captain. 12:30 huh? What? How? 12:40 no? I fail to see how being attracted to the same gender has anything to do with art, music and literary contribution. And I also fail to see how it would change any benefits. I’m not even sure what benefits you’re referring to. 12:54 singular?? 1:01:20 from her parents perspective she seemed to have been living the life that they expected of her. So I’m not sure what their problem is. 1:02:13 I’m not sure what you’re getting at here 1:12:37 and what would failure be exactly?
Have you not seen the reactions to any of the newer Star Trek shows? Especially Discovery, holy cow the comments section for videos talking about Disco were always horrid cesspools of bigotry and hate.
13:30 I truly disagree that it took an arm and a leg to get a female captain. There were already female captain characters as far back as Kirk’s time. 17:20 paran0ia Madame captain? “exclusively as a woman” yeah right. I actually found the hair thing as an evolution of the character 31:36 how so? 31:43 sure Jan 33:10 which is what? Whatever that means? 33:42 Burger King: am I a joke to you? 34:24 I don’t think that’s how that works. 36:20 yeah I’m not sure how making it “intentional“ makes it better? Like we can talk about actors with a handicap getting to be actors like the rest of us. But whether an actor dates the same gender or not, it’s a material. And if people are making that intentional, that sounds like more like affirmative action. A disabled person that can’t walk can’t “act” abled. But they deserve equal opportunities to be actors. However, as for actors who date the same gender or both, it’s irrelevant for the reason of being hired. 36:38 and don’t get me started on trans. But as far as I can recall, there hasn’t been any trans actors or characters yet. But I guess you’re talking about in general. Wait, no you’re talking about Star Trek. Star Trek didn’t talk about these things. It was merely about not picking and choosing actors based on colour or anything else. 36:34 And I think you’re praising too much mediocre minutiae.
Bruce Lee said people have their opinions then their opinions becomes the gospel truth. When you put religion behind it, it allows for physical abuse to start in the name of Jesus. Now, you wouldnt hurt a person but when they do get hurt by others that have your school of thought, then, while you may still weep, will accept that it ensures you religious proclamations. It still serves your purpose.
So Mulgrew's first thought when she met her crew on the Voyager set 30 years ago was, "where are the gay people?". Why do people believe any of this crap people come out with? They're just playing to the crowd. Besides, why should the sexual preferences of anyone even be immediately obvious to anyone. Hopefully she got a chance to visit the Discovery set where she would've felt like she stepped onto planet LGBTQIAPPPY-09
@@planomathandscience Dei is the reason why doors on airplanes are falling out, subs are imploding, and boats are crashing into bridges! Dei kills, that said does diversity include isreal/the Jews and police officers?
Yeah, Voyager was never/ever gay themed and I didnt even had feeling in all seasons that it had some queer vibe. Probably its cool now, but series was never about that.... now i was like.. wtf is all this shiaaat...
@@startrekmaniac1701 I came for behind the scenes of Voyager basically (stories from shooting the series, that shoud be main goal here, but more than half is about DEI and politics). Probably 10 years older Cast Panel is better than this.. (no jews stuff mentioned if you ask :D)
If you bailed after 10 minutes, you made the right call. I kept watching, foolishly thinking they might actually start talking about Voyager at some point. But nope. It was all politics and generic diversity stuff the entire time. I didn't make it all the way through, but I watched entirely too long.
Why wear a mask indoors when he's in good health at an event where his voice becomes muffled through the mic? I know he says its out of love but I for one didn't love that choice he made there.
@@planomathandscience the Wuhan flu is old news. Masks are not effective and ether the vaccine works or it doesn’t. Think for yourself and stop relying on the mainstream to think for you!
Lol, he's wearing it because he's an idiot. People still wearing masks in 2024, people still wear them driving their car alone. I mean he's free to do what he wants, but he is and looks like an idiot.
Go on then, point out exactly where they went too far, tell us exactly what they said that's so harmful. Because if "Bigots will do evil things in response" is all you've got in mind, then I would remind you that the only ones responsible for any "backlash" are the people who choose to do those hateful things.
@@FandomSpotlite where and just because there’s a so-called Christian in the audience doesn’t mean that we are being represented. People like me are often left out. Where is my representation?
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one of the best voyager panels I've seen so far. looking forward to seeing it in 2025
What an incredible panel and discussion. I don't know how any Star Trek fan xould be mad about the content of this panel. Star Trek, all the way since TOS, has always been political and about inclusion. Not only that, it has NEVER been subtle about it. Go watch the TOS episode Let That Be Your Last Battlefield if you have any delusions that Star Trek somehow used to be subtle about its messaging. Or watch Kirk tell a crewman that bigotry has no place on the bridge.
Again, fantastic panel and discussion. 🖖🏻
So true. So mf true.
There was an episode of Enterprise in which they came upon a planet of ppl that was dying of a terminal disease. Another species on that planet had an antibody that could save them but were on the verge of a mental revolution, and if left alone would rise to become the dominant species on the planet within 1000 years. Dr. Phlox made the cure, but in the end, Archer decided not to share its existence as well as warp drive with the dying ppl.
Star Trek belt with issues other that just space battles. It truly makes you look at thing objectively.
The issue comes from a “discrimination” that is recognising a difference, based in traits that we at this time shouldn’t even be concerned about. The normalisation process is halted when people decide what is diverse and what isn’t. What “inclusive” really means and all that. We know not everyone out there has it normalised but we should lead by example.
Regardless of its plans and goals there was nothing “incredible” about it
Tim Russ's laugh is the medicine I needed today
I missed this panel. Thanks for recording Fandom Spotlite.
Voyager had me gripped from the first episode and then for all 7 seasons
It’s education folks. I live in a state where education is no 48 and sports is number 1 in the schools. I get shunned for saying it but I wholeheartedly believe that we need to separate sports from school and make education the quintessential reason for schools to exist.
It is very startling to non Americans how obsessed not just high schools but universities are in the US about sport rather than academics
So confused about why people are mad. You have a choice, if you don’t like the content of this video, don’t watch. I love Kate Mulgrew ❤️😍🤩
Oh sweet! thanks for sharing for everyone that can't get into these personally 🖖
All this talk about listening to each other, then you look at the comments and see a lot of people have failed that. Was a great panel thanks for uploading
This was so great to watch. I get it, some people hate that they talked about politics so much - but that's the whole point of this event I would imagine, to discuss this sort of stuff and how it effects certain communities. Also, I think this is the first time I heard Kate Mulgrew curse (sort of, she cut herself off at the end lol) but Garret Wang finished it for her :D
I for one as a gay woman really love it when my favourite humans actually defend my rights to be alive and be free!
Thank you Kate, Tim, Bob, Robbie & Garrett! You guys are my family! And I’m so glad to have you in my life 🫶🏻🖖🏻
I beg your pardon?
Admiral, Captain, Doctor, Director guy / Bane, and hopefully we finally get Garrett a promotion - busted down to Commander or whatever.
I always Star Trek fan. You guys are the best!
How ironic that the "Vulcan" has the bestest laugh ever LOL
He's easily got the best bits in the Voyager outtake reel, too. I wish I could decent quality recording of it, Tim Russ is a funny dude.
@@TheTapeClub It's disappointing that the writers didn't give Tim Russ a lot of episodes for development despite him being one of the better actors (along with Mulgrew, Picardo and Ryan)
What an incredible panel! More of this please this was refreshing and honest talking. ❤🖖
I was so happy to be at this panel! It was the highlight of my year!
Great panel, with a great important unexpected message. Go Vote! Vote! Vote! This year especially, for there is a lot at stake.
RFK all the way!
I don't plan to vote and I have the freedom not to. I want to do things that I feel actually make a difference and voting is not one of them, not just because my vote likely won't becthe deciding vote but because I probably agree and disagree on some views that each candidate holds. And whoever wins it won't change the fact that the government is disorganized.
Vote if you want to vote, and encourage people to vote all you want, but also do things that will make a tangible difference in the world (not that you don't do that).
MAGA!
Such a great panel, love this cast. Such a great convention, hope to attend next year.
30 years! Jeez... where does the time go?!
Thank you! Keep up the great work 🖖
Oh man poor Garrett. They all have comfy chairs and he's got some stool.
Ensigns always get the less comfy chairs.
It’s not just about gay people, DEI. It’s about everybody. But anyway. I’m a raging lefty and Voyager is my favorite, and I’d watch this panel even if it were done at CPAC.
What is CPAC?
This was a great panel. I loved it and it's a wonderful concept to have a convention of diversity and inclusion. We need more of this in the world. Thanks for recording it.
Diversity and inclusion lead to state sanctioned racism. That's why it's so evil.
Where exactly was this held? In Philadelphia? I'd never heard of this convention before. Thanks so much for sharing it. And was Robbie injured or whybdid ue have that mask or face panties or whatever?
My favorite saying may be "When it comes to human rights, on a long enough timeline, we win."
the people here whining about how its so poliitcal (on a diversity & inclusion con ffs) really havent understood the vision of Gene Roddenberry or Rick Berman. The people whining about Roberts mask are even worse. Your life must really be sad if someone on a youtube video wearing a mask offends you.
The only thing is it's hardly inclusive to people who are hard of hearing and read lips, I have good hearing but even I had trouble understanding people who were wearing masks and people had trouble understanding me. But it's a free country and he can wear a mask if he wants or had a reason for it.
not offended, it's just ridiculous
I feel like the fact that they had to make an …. ‘Entity’ that’s basically a diversity and inclusion “department” if you will, speaks a lot to the fallacious approach to making sure no one is left behind. Even systemically.
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 so your solution would be to not hold conferences like this where people who feel left out of society still can feel like they re welcome.....?
@@chocvanr227 but that presumes that no other conferences before this one made people feel welcome
The Tuvix question! Haha.
Obama, tuvax
best finale ever
Very interesting!
Thank u Rick Berman
If you’re a Trekkie, you should uphold its values of Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations!
These commutes are so hateful and rude.
5:37 we do? That’s random. This isn’t a party Tom 😅
6:17 I don’t get it 6:40 what is he talking about?
9:20 no? Not much. 9:25 who was gayinhis time? lol 9:40 I don’t know we have no proof of that 12:00 what are you talking about? And that has nothing to do with inclusion and diversity.
12:20 I think you’re giving us too much credit. 12:25 You lost me, captain. 12:30 huh? What? How? 12:40 no? I fail to see how being attracted to the same gender has anything to do with art, music and literary contribution. And I also fail to see how it would change any benefits. I’m not even sure what benefits you’re referring to.
12:54 singular??
1:01:20 from her parents perspective she seemed to have been living the life that they expected of her. So I’m not sure what their problem is.
1:02:13 I’m not sure what you’re getting at here
1:12:37 and what would failure be exactly?
Loved Mulgrew's political comments, speaking self-evident truths to the blissfully destructive intellectual illeratti.
"Fear leads to de Darkness" is so Star Wars...😂
Wow i never thought star trek fans included small minded bigots... but comments here have proven me wrong!
Have you not seen the reactions to any of the newer Star Trek shows? Especially Discovery, holy cow the comments section for videos talking about Disco were always horrid cesspools of bigotry and hate.
What is up with that weird artifact in the audio? It sounds like water. Did someone over-use a noise-canceling plugin?
1:06:47 guy drops a bomb then leaves
was tovok in bus take in farris bueliers day off.
No
She ain’t wrong a lot other countries need cspan
13:30 I truly disagree that it took an arm and a leg to get a female captain. There were already female captain characters as far back as Kirk’s time.
17:20 paran0ia Madame captain? “exclusively as a woman” yeah right. I actually found the hair thing as an evolution of the character
31:36 how so? 31:43 sure Jan
33:10 which is what? Whatever that means?
33:42 Burger King: am I a joke to you? 34:24 I don’t think that’s how that works. 36:20 yeah I’m not sure how making it “intentional“ makes it better? Like we can talk about actors with a handicap getting to be actors like the rest of us. But whether an actor dates the same gender or not, it’s a material. And if people are making that intentional, that sounds like more like affirmative action. A disabled person that can’t walk can’t “act” abled. But they deserve equal opportunities to be actors. However, as for actors who date the same gender or both, it’s irrelevant for the reason of being hired. 36:38 and don’t get me started on trans. But as far as I can recall, there hasn’t been any trans actors or characters yet. But I guess you’re talking about in general. Wait, no you’re talking about Star Trek. Star Trek didn’t talk about these things. It was merely about not picking and choosing actors based on colour or anything else. 36:34 And I think you’re praising too much mediocre minutiae.
Geez the amount of static noise makes it hard to hear then
❤☕
No Jeri Ryan?
You had to go and spoil it with IDPOL.
Is it just me or did it got annoying after a while how often kate interrupted robert?
a face mask, in late 2024....
patrick stewart was a hell of a lot easier!
mycrofth.
They made up for DEI on Discovery.
I cant with the mask
What the hell has he got on his face, bloody ridiculous.
Lol, i honestly didnt knew who was person in the mask. Its like 15 years that I last time watched Voyager :)
No thanks 👍
Bruce Lee said people have their opinions then their opinions becomes the gospel truth.
When you put religion behind it, it allows for physical abuse to start in the name of Jesus. Now, you wouldnt hurt a person but when they do get hurt by others that have your school of thought, then, while you may still weep, will accept that it ensures you religious proclamations. It still serves your purpose.
When are we gonna talk about star trek
So Mulgrew's first thought when she met her crew on the Voyager set 30 years ago was, "where are the gay people?". Why do people believe any of this crap people come out with? They're just playing to the crowd. Besides, why should the sexual preferences of anyone even be immediately obvious to anyone.
Hopefully she got a chance to visit the Discovery set where she would've felt like she stepped onto planet LGBTQIAPPPY-09
I think she was joking.
It was hyperbole. And queer people deserve representation.
DEI Con? 😅 WTF is this crap
IDIC. It's been a part of Star Trek since the '60s. What show have you been watching?
@@planomathandscience Dei is the reason why doors on airplanes are falling out, subs are imploding, and boats are crashing into bridges! Dei kills, that said does diversity include isreal/the Jews and police officers?
Yeah, Voyager was never/ever gay themed and I didnt even had feeling in all seasons that it had some queer vibe. Probably its cool now, but series was never about that.... now i was like.. wtf is all this shiaaat...
@@planomathandscience does idic include the Jews/Israel and police officers?
@@startrekmaniac1701 I came for behind the scenes of Voyager basically (stories from shooting the series, that shoud be main goal here, but more than half is about DEI and politics). Probably 10 years older Cast Panel is better than this.. (no jews stuff mentioned if you ask :D)
Way too political for me.
I loved it. :) There are many cast panels that are less political
Welcome to Star Trek.
The Star Trek Voyager cast talking about identity politics for over 10 minutes. Yay...
If you bailed after 10 minutes, you made the right call. I kept watching, foolishly thinking they might actually start talking about Voyager at some point. But nope. It was all politics and generic diversity stuff the entire time. I didn't make it all the way through, but I watched entirely too long.
@@allergygal Dei is bad for everyone
@@allergygal the mask had me turn it off 30 seconds in
@@startrekmaniac1701 why?
@@planomathandscience they don’t work and caused more problems than they solved
The BORG should have assimilated all of them..
I think they did ...
Damn, sounds like you're mad that they haven't sacrificed their identities to their ideology like you have.
Why is he still wearing a mask?!
Because that's his choice and right.
@@FandomSpotlite it’s also stupid and not doing anything. Just another blind cnn follower. Still waiting to be told by Fauci it’s safe to take off.
@@FandomSpotlite is it by choice or it is because facui/cnn never said to stop wearing them?
It's his choice. We still live in a free country. For now.
@@FandomSpotlite tell that to everyone who was forced to get the vaccine
lol a diversity and inclusion con... why
They wanna ram it down your throat from all angles till you think of nothing else.its unbelievable.
Why wear a mask indoors when he's in good health at an event where his voice becomes muffled through the mic? I know he says its out of love but I for one didn't love that choice he made there.
Out of love in case HE was a carrier. Try to understand WHAT YOU'RE WATCHING.
@@planomathandscience the Wuhan flu is old news. Masks are not effective and ether the vaccine works or it doesn’t. Think for yourself and stop relying on the mainstream to think for you!
@@planomathandscience The comment I made was from the perspective of not loving his choice. Did you understand my comment?
Lol, he's wearing it because he's an idiot. People still wearing masks in 2024, people still wear them driving their car alone. I mean he's free to do what he wants, but he is and looks like an idiot.
How do you know he's in good health? If you don't like it, don't go ✌🏻
going to the extremes will bring a backlash its going way to far and it will come.
Go on then, point out exactly where they went too far, tell us exactly what they said that's so harmful. Because if "Bigots will do evil things in response" is all you've got in mind, then I would remind you that the only ones responsible for any "backlash" are the people who choose to do those hateful things.
Vote Red! We don't want a socialist country.
Actually gays marked the fall of great civilizations. From the greeks to the romans. Just saying...
But diversity and inclusion should include Christian white males. Like me. I feel discriminated against.
There were Christian white males at this con.
@@FandomSpotlite where and just because there’s a so-called Christian in the audience doesn’t mean that we are being represented. People like me are often left out. Where is my representation?
@@FandomSpotlite and I am primarily talking about TV shows.
Already the majority demographic on stage, and yet you still demand more. Way to live up to the stereotype, sport.
@@TheTapeClub name one person on that stage who is a proclaimed Christian and lives for Jesus Christ. Where is the true inclusion.
38:14 Ah yes fear is the path to the dark side, very wise words!
What utter bollocks!