Trying to make up my mind what pedal to get. But for the money this pedal is worth it. Thanks for the simple video going through it's tones. Very helpful
I don't care how it sounds as much as I like the display and interface. Lights...cool. But these things always have good metal tones in them. This unit and the Black Truck just look cool.
Nice examples. I have the Mooer for a copple of weeks and use IT in my pre amp in. Very satisfied and get pretty Decent blues tones out of it . In fact i sold my pedalboard ;-)
I have this processor, but I am not satisfied with the sound quality .. Maybe I do something wrong but my setup is Guitar > Mooer ge200 > blackstar id core 10 v2 stero amp .. I asked to one of the pro guitar players, and she told me to use preamp before the amp is that correct ? and in case I need to get a preamp how should be the set up ? because sound quality is not satisfying at all .. it is not like in the description videos .. thank you !
@@Explorerofthesea Other people does the same cuestion in other videos and the answer is that this unit was designed to go and soud better conected to a PA. Maybe that's the reason. Sorry for my english it is not very good
Ok, my family is completely new to playing guitar.... would this Mooer ge200 be a good learning tool for us to start experimenting with different sounds, as opposed to like a Headrush/Helix that would be way more expensive, or separate pedals that would cost a lot and be less flexible as far as experimenting....? I've been looking into pedals.for a while, and this seems to offer a LOT for the price.....we dont need something that soumds perfectly like a $2000 tube setup of $1500-2000 in pedals, just something that will approximate sounds closely enough to male learning fun...similar to the kinds of songs/riffs in this video, amd some blues...some clean-ish modern sounds for the young ones ...etc... Thanks for the video!
Oh, and if our amp is a tiny practice amp, would this sound good with amp/cab sim on and direct playing through an EV powered speaker... i have a set of PA speakers ....
It's a good entry-level unit from a price perspective, but has some really good tones. If this unit had come out in 1999, it would have been a leading unit in terms of price and capabilities. That said, these days, it's considered entry level. I think it's easy enough to use that it would be okay for beginners. The routing is somewhat limited, as are the number of amps/effects/etc that can be used at one, but that limitation would keep users from getting too confused. Will it sound good through a practice amp? No way to answer that. I have no doubt that you could tweak it to sound good into a practice amp, but I would expect there to be some knob-twisting to get there. I don't think you'd get immediate great tones that way, but it could be done.
The original patch was deleted when I did the firmware upgrade, so I've had to recreate it and get as close as I could from memory, and matching the video here. Try these settings (note: this video was made *prior* to the inclusion of the power amp emulation settings, so technically if you wanted to get as close to this video as possible, you'd have to turn the tube setting to "off". However, I think it sounds better with the new firmware and the power amp emulation on.) Amp: Hugen OD Gain: 30 Bass: 60 Mid: 70 Treble: 50 Presence: 50 Master: 90-100 Cab: Gas Station 412 Tube: 6L6 Mic: U47 Center: 50 Distance: 75 Eq: Mooer G 100Hz: -3dB 250Hz: -4dB 630Hz: 0dB 1.6KHz: +1dB 4KHz: +2dB This should get you pretty close. Thanks for watching!
TL;DR -- EQ before the amp can affect the character of the tone, especially with regard to quality and levels of gain; EQ after is more about shaping the overall character of the timbre applied to the guitar's signal by amp (and cab and mic, depending on where the EQ is placed). Good question, and a tough one to answer with absolutes. Here's how I look at it: EQ *before* the amp can help shape the amp's character, especially as gain levels increase. Cutting bass and adding mids/highs before the amp can help drive more searing/syrupy tones; add bass and cut mids/highs and you get more of a fuzz-like character. Of course, I need to add qualifiers here -- not like this is absolutely true for all amps! By comparison, EQ *after* the amp tends to be more of a final shaping of the character that has already been applied to the guitar signal via the amp/cab/mic. Some people really like to boost mids and highs prior to the amp, get that searing/syrupy tone, but then use post-EQ to add back in the lows to taste. Most amplifiers have a preset network of tone shaping that is applied to the input already, where the manufacturer has decided how much bass to cut. That's pretty common. Some amps -- the Mesa Mark series is a classic example -- have their tone controls placed earlier in the pre-amp stages and (often) have additional tone shaping available later in the circuit via graphic EQ sliders. If you read their manuals they explain this well (also, a shout-out to Mesa for their manuals -- they're quite well-written, very conversational with lots of examples, well worth a read even if you don't own one of their amps). A common theory for Mesa Mark amps is to crank the highs and cut lows with the tone knobs, but then make up for it by boosting lows later in the circuit using their graphic EQ. The classic "V" shaped EQ is an example. Cool stuff. This idea of cutting lows at one point and adding them back later is pretty common in other areas too, such as in record-making. When vinyl records are cut, the bass frequencies are significantly attenuated to help with the cutting of the grooves, and to save wear on the needle. The preamp for the turntable would then apply the opposite EQ, restoring the bass frequencies to their original levels before being amplified out the speakers. Thanks for the question. Hope this helps.
Sir let me ask you that did you use audio interface from ge200 to record this clip? or you use XRL from ge 200 through Sound card and direct to computer?
Sintakoun BOULOMMAVONG I use Reaper in my pc to record the sound from my ge200 and a headset to listen to what I’m playing, cause of the lag as I just plug it via USB
Hey there thanks for the great video ! helped a lot ! I have this processor, but I am not satisfied with the sound quality .. Maybe I do something wrong but my setup is Guitar > Mooer ge200 > blackstar id core 10 v2 stero amp .. I asked to one of the pro guitar players, and she told me to use preamp before the amp is that correct ? and in case I need to get a preamp how should be the set up ? because sound quality is not satisfying at all .. it is not like in the description videos .. thank you !
Im looking into getting this Mooer.... In your case, it might be in the settings, as you can change the output depending on if you are going into an amp, or direct to a PA or recording interface, etc... Good luck, and let me know if you get it sorted....I'm hoping to get this pedal simulator, and a Blackstar is one of the amps on my short list for soon after....
Honestly, I think you'd be better off just using the Blackstar by itself. I have that little amp, and it sounds pretty good! I have no doubt that running the Mooer into the Blackstar could create challenges. I'm sure someone out there has tweaked it to make it sound good, but I'm sure it takes some knob-twisting. If you took the Mooer with a patch that included an amp/speaker/mic combo, and run it into the Blackstar, you're essentially running the Mooer's modeled signal through another stage of amp/cab/speaker modeling. That could cause weird issues if you don't account for it. That would have to be tweaked by ear, but it could be done.
Thanks for watching! Yeah, you know I didn't do a good job of showing the settings of each patch. That specific Dr. Z patch was long ago deleted by a firmware upgrade. However, I spent some time last night recreating it as close as I could get. Here is what I came up with: Amp: Dr. Zee 18 JR Gain: 100 Bass: 90 Mid: 100 Treble: 70 Presence: 50 Master: 100 Cab: Dr. Zee 112 Tube: OFF* Mic: U47 Center: 35 Distance: 25 Those settings should get you pretty close. Please note that when this video was made, there was no "Tube" setting as part of the firmware. So if you're on the latest firmware, to replicate as close as possible the sound on this video, you should turn off the tube power amp emulation. That said, I find I like it better with the emulation on. You may too. It sounds pretty cool with the EL34 emulation as well as the default EL84. I've also found that you may want to change up the Mic model, as several of them sound pretty good with this patch. Here are the other settings (which you can see in the video, but I thought I'd put them here for ease) Reverb: Room Pre Delay: 200ms Level: 15 Decay: 40 Tone: 40 Drive: Pure Boost Volume: 85 Tone: 42 Gain: 88
Hard to say. I've not taken this unit and run it through a power amp and cab, with volume. That would be the best test of "feel". In my opinion, taking any modeler (or amp!) and running it through a pair of monitors does change the overall feel. A large part of that comes from the fact that the volume is lower, so you're missing that interaction of guitar-speaker at high volume. Some modelers are better at the "feel" part than others, and frankly it's all very subjective. To me, the Fractal units feel different from a unit like this -- now, whether that difference is a good or bad thing is totally dependent on the player. Back when I was using v1 modelers, like the first Line 6 Pod, the feel was noticeably "smoother" than an actual amp. Some people like that smoother feel, others think it's too far from a real amp. YMMV. I'd say that the feel of the Mooer was less disconnected and smooth than an early Pod, but not as realistic as an Axe-FX. Of course, this unit costs *significantly* less than an Axe-FX, or even a Helix, so there's going to be some tradeoffs there. That said, some people may actually *prefer* those tradeoffs.
I got mine today and tested. Great piece of machine. Beautiful patches!
Best demonstration of this unit on TH-cam!
Thanks, and thanks for watching!
very nice demo indeed. thanks!
I ordered my GE200 yesterday and waiting to get my hands on it too
Trying to make up my mind what pedal to get. But for the money this pedal is worth it. Thanks for the simple video going through it's tones. Very helpful
I don't care how it sounds as much as I like the display and interface. Lights...cool. But these things always have good metal tones in them. This unit and the Black Truck just look cool.
Superb unit...
Nice examples. I have the Mooer for a copple of weeks and use IT in my pre amp in. Very satisfied and get pretty Decent blues tones out of it . In fact i sold my pedalboard ;-)
does it have preset blues tones?
No, but I think heavey rock tones is all there is nowadays ;-) But there are enough amp tones, boosts and drives to make some yourself.
does this unit sound better then the boss gt 100 I used to own.
I have this processor, but I am not satisfied with the sound quality .. Maybe I do something wrong but my setup is Guitar > Mooer ge200 > blackstar id core 10 v2 stero amp .. I asked to one of the pro guitar players, and she told me to use preamp before the amp is that correct ? and in case I need to get a preamp how should be the set up ? because sound quality is not satisfying at all .. it is not like in the description videos .. thank you !
@@Explorerofthesea Other people does the same cuestion in other videos and the answer is that this unit was designed to go and soud better conected to a PA. Maybe that's the reason. Sorry for my english it is not very good
Which One better nux mg300 or mooer ge200
guy has a killer vibrato.
That's very kind -- thank you! I've always been happy with my vibrato -- the rest of my hack playing, not so much. :)
Nice tone! its helpful thank u bro
Great video , great job .
Ok, my family is completely new to playing guitar.... would this Mooer ge200 be a good learning tool for us to start experimenting with different sounds, as opposed to like a Headrush/Helix that would be way more expensive, or separate pedals that would cost a lot and be less flexible as far as experimenting....?
I've been looking into pedals.for a while, and this seems to offer a LOT for the price.....we dont need something that soumds perfectly like a $2000 tube setup of $1500-2000 in pedals, just something that will approximate sounds closely enough to male learning fun...similar to the kinds of songs/riffs in this video, amd some blues...some clean-ish modern sounds for the young ones ...etc...
Thanks for the video!
Oh, and if our amp is a tiny practice amp, would this sound good with amp/cab sim on and direct playing through an EV powered speaker... i have a set of PA speakers ....
It's a good entry-level unit from a price perspective, but has some really good tones. If this unit had come out in 1999, it would have been a leading unit in terms of price and capabilities. That said, these days, it's considered entry level.
I think it's easy enough to use that it would be okay for beginners. The routing is somewhat limited, as are the number of amps/effects/etc that can be used at one, but that limitation would keep users from getting too confused.
Will it sound good through a practice amp? No way to answer that. I have no doubt that you could tweak it to sound good into a practice amp, but I would expect there to be some knob-twisting to get there. I don't think you'd get immediate great tones that way, but it could be done.
Just bought one thanks
Superb. Can I have the JCM 900 patch setting of the amp and cab please?? Cheers
Thanks for video. It sounds pretty cool. Please can you tell me the amp and cab settings for Hugen amp? Thanks.
The original patch was deleted when I did the firmware upgrade, so I've had to recreate it and get as close as I could from memory, and matching the video here. Try these settings (note: this video was made *prior* to the inclusion of the power amp emulation settings, so technically if you wanted to get as close to this video as possible, you'd have to turn the tube setting to "off". However, I think it sounds better with the new firmware and the power amp emulation on.)
Amp: Hugen OD
Gain: 30
Bass: 60
Mid: 70
Treble: 50
Presence: 50
Master: 90-100
Cab: Gas Station 412
Tube: 6L6
Mic: U47
Center: 50
Distance: 75
Eq: Mooer G
100Hz: -3dB
250Hz: -4dB
630Hz: 0dB
1.6KHz: +1dB
4KHz: +2dB
This should get you pretty close. Thanks for watching!
Thanks.
Whats is your recommendation about the eq... pre o r post amp in the chain?
TL;DR -- EQ before the amp can affect the character of the tone, especially with regard to quality and levels of gain; EQ after is more about shaping the overall character of the timbre applied to the guitar's signal by amp (and cab and mic, depending on where the EQ is placed).
Good question, and a tough one to answer with absolutes. Here's how I look at it: EQ *before* the amp can help shape the amp's character, especially as gain levels increase. Cutting bass and adding mids/highs before the amp can help drive more searing/syrupy tones; add bass and cut mids/highs and you get more of a fuzz-like character. Of course, I need to add qualifiers here -- not like this is absolutely true for all amps!
By comparison, EQ *after* the amp tends to be more of a final shaping of the character that has already been applied to the guitar signal via the amp/cab/mic. Some people really like to boost mids and highs prior to the amp, get that searing/syrupy tone, but then use post-EQ to add back in the lows to taste.
Most amplifiers have a preset network of tone shaping that is applied to the input already, where the manufacturer has decided how much bass to cut. That's pretty common. Some amps -- the Mesa Mark series is a classic example -- have their tone controls placed earlier in the pre-amp stages and (often) have additional tone shaping available later in the circuit via graphic EQ sliders. If you read their manuals they explain this well (also, a shout-out to Mesa for their manuals -- they're quite well-written, very conversational with lots of examples, well worth a read even if you don't own one of their amps). A common theory for Mesa Mark amps is to crank the highs and cut lows with the tone knobs, but then make up for it by boosting lows later in the circuit using their graphic EQ. The classic "V" shaped EQ is an example. Cool stuff.
This idea of cutting lows at one point and adding them back later is pretty common in other areas too, such as in record-making. When vinyl records are cut, the bass frequencies are significantly attenuated to help with the cutting of the grooves, and to save wear on the needle. The preamp for the turntable would then apply the opposite EQ, restoring the bass frequencies to their original levels before being amplified out the speakers.
Thanks for the question. Hope this helps.
Can you do 2 pedal type in the chian? Like 2 delays or 2 reverbs and so on.
Nice video. Does Ge 200 amp simulation works well in amp return with Cab simulation off?
Sorry Bruno -- never tried that with this unit.
Sir let me ask you that did you use audio interface from ge200 to record this clip? or you use XRL from ge 200 through Sound card and direct to computer?
Sintakoun BOULOMMAVONG I use Reaper in my pc to record the sound from my ge200 and a headset to listen to what I’m playing, cause of the lag as I just plug it via USB
I sent the output of the Mooer into my Focusrite Scarlet interace, into my little Mac.
Hey there thanks for the great video ! helped a lot ! I have this processor, but I am not satisfied with the sound quality .. Maybe I do something wrong but my setup is Guitar > Mooer ge200 > blackstar id core 10 v2 stero amp .. I asked to one of the pro guitar players, and she told me to use preamp before the amp is that correct ? and in case I need to get a preamp how should be the set up ? because sound quality is not satisfying at all .. it is not like in the description videos .. thank you !
Im looking into getting this Mooer.... In your case, it might be in the settings, as you can change the output depending on if you are going into an amp, or direct to a PA or recording interface, etc...
Good luck, and let me know if you get it sorted....I'm hoping to get this pedal simulator, and a Blackstar is one of the amps on my short list for soon after....
Honestly, I think you'd be better off just using the Blackstar by itself. I have that little amp, and it sounds pretty good! I have no doubt that running the Mooer into the Blackstar could create challenges. I'm sure someone out there has tweaked it to make it sound good, but I'm sure it takes some knob-twisting.
If you took the Mooer with a patch that included an amp/speaker/mic combo, and run it into the Blackstar, you're essentially running the Mooer's modeled signal through another stage of amp/cab/speaker modeling. That could cause weird issues if you don't account for it. That would have to be tweaked by ear, but it could be done.
did you already update that in imac sir? NICE TONE
Sounds very good bro! Can you tell me what the settings were for the Dr. Z patch you had?
Thanks for watching!
Yeah, you know I didn't do a good job of showing the settings of each patch. That specific Dr. Z patch was long ago deleted by a firmware upgrade. However, I spent some time last night recreating it as close as I could get. Here is what I came up with:
Amp: Dr. Zee 18 JR
Gain: 100
Bass: 90
Mid: 100
Treble: 70
Presence: 50
Master: 100
Cab: Dr. Zee 112
Tube: OFF*
Mic: U47
Center: 35
Distance: 25
Those settings should get you pretty close. Please note that when this video was made, there was no "Tube" setting as part of the firmware. So if you're on the latest firmware, to replicate as close as possible the sound on this video, you should turn off the tube power amp emulation. That said, I find I like it better with the emulation on. You may too. It sounds pretty cool with the EL34 emulation as well as the default EL84. I've also found that you may want to change up the Mic model, as several of them sound pretty good with this patch.
Here are the other settings (which you can see in the video, but I thought I'd put them here for ease)
Reverb: Room
Pre Delay: 200ms
Level: 15
Decay: 40
Tone: 40
Drive: Pure Boost
Volume: 85
Tone: 42
Gain: 88
thanks !!!
Strange almost nobody on TH-cam use it with an tube amp. Wonder why.??
Does it feel responsive like the real deal?
Hard to say. I've not taken this unit and run it through a power amp and cab, with volume. That would be the best test of "feel".
In my opinion, taking any modeler (or amp!) and running it through a pair of monitors does change the overall feel. A large part of that comes from the fact that the volume is lower, so you're missing that interaction of guitar-speaker at high volume. Some modelers are better at the "feel" part than others, and frankly it's all very subjective. To me, the Fractal units feel different from a unit like this -- now, whether that difference is a good or bad thing is totally dependent on the player.
Back when I was using v1 modelers, like the first Line 6 Pod, the feel was noticeably "smoother" than an actual amp. Some people like that smoother feel, others think it's too far from a real amp. YMMV.
I'd say that the feel of the Mooer was less disconnected and smooth than an early Pod, but not as realistic as an Axe-FX. Of course, this unit costs *significantly* less than an Axe-FX, or even a Helix, so there's going to be some tradeoffs there. That said, some people may actually *prefer* those tradeoffs.
you are connected to pa? or an amp or cab?
Neither. Straight into Focusrite interface into my Mac.
@@AnthonyFerguson01 Its sound better than record directly from GE200 USB? thanks
Are you running straight into a daw or are are you micd? Sounds great! You have a much better grasp on this than I have.
Straight into my Focusrite interface, and recorded using GarageBand.
Is there a difference between recording via the included USB output? Might be 48kHz only, but if you apply fewer post processing, might be as good?
Not sure. I haven't messed with the USB recording yet. I'll have to see if I can try that in the coming weeks.
Que guitarra es???
PRS 245 (Paul Reed Smith)
mème pas fait une démo sur les accompagnement de batterie nul
what are you useing for a speaker cab power? real amp, pc
skip bass All sounds recorded direct to my Mac.