You should Lengthen the tab move the mount out further and lower the upper mounting point closer to the hinge that will give you up angle as well as down angle.
Hey I love your content! I’m planning a DIY surf tab setup on my boat. Quick dumb question before I start experimenting-does the tab deploy on the surf side of the wake? Or is it like a wedge where you use it on the non-surf side?
Non surf side If you're building your own, the tab needs to be much bigger than what I had. 12x12 was too small. Needs to be more like 16 to 18 inches long
Your going about the actuator mounting and throw totally wrong. Check out evolution surf tabs and see how they mount the actuators for the up travel and down travel. The way you have done it limits the travel you can achieve from the actuator because of the length. Just another note. On the majority of Malibus from 01 onwards you actually need about 18 degrees of up lift from the tab to keep it out of the water while at surf speeds. Other then that I love your videos and the time you spend trying to help others by doing a lot of the RND for them.
Yes. I have an idea for a plate design that will make a huge wave. The new tab will bolt onto the tab that's here now. New video will be out in the spring. Testing to begin around mid June since that's the soonest we get in the water here
Have you thought about getting a bigger plate? It looks like that one stick out 9 inches from the boat and is 12 inches wide. It looks like they also have a 12 x 12 and 9 x14, would be interesting to see you test a bigger plate size
Yes. I'll be doing an updated video with more details of the final mounting and a few different plate sizes My ultimate plan was to go to a centurion dealer and trace the plate shape on cardboard and cut it out on metal and bolt it to the plate thats already on my boat.
@@GearsAndTech Would you say between the 2 the waves produced are comparable? Why is there not an aftermarket suck gate that mounts where a trim tab would go?
Why didn’t you mount the actuator lower and move the mount on the tab? I built an entire kit with your exact kit but I built different tabs that are the exact same as the Infiniti tabs just haven’t installed them because it no time
Yes, I needed to make new tabs that are longer and then move the tabs down lower. I'm working on new plates for another time. Will do a video when I actually do it
You seem to like the surf mode with a lot of ballast nowadays... What happened? Did your opinion change on systems that go down vs systems that go out? And if so, why?
Turns out the most important thing is to have some yaw to the boat. Probbaly worth making a new video to explain Surf mode makes an old boat yaw New boats have found other ways to make the yaw. It's probbaly the biggest advancement since the surf gate itself! Im working on a custom plate for the back that adds the yaw needed. From best to least Yaw surf system Down deploying surf system Extreme List the boat hard to surf side Side deploy surf system No surf system
@@GearsAndTech What I really want to see is how the combination of Yaw (surf mode style) and the 3 back plates do, along with a little lean and, of course, heavy ballast. Like, on a down-deploy, what exactly is the middle plate for? How does engaging the surf side plate in addition to the NON surf side plate (that initiates the wave) affect the wave? And how does all of that combine with a yaw system like Surf Mode to make the end-all of surf waves? Does a down plate itself create yaw or what? What about a down AND a side deploy combined? Is the yaw all that matters with the side/suck gates, or does their actual deflection/delay of the flow do anything? So many questions...
Okay so, buy short actuators and mount them further inside so you dont have to have a helter skelter deck setup. Definitely not fucking with my deck like that on an Xstar.
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If you're doing this as a DIY, please use 5200 rather than silicone on the screws to keep it watertight. Good video though!
You should Lengthen the tab move the mount out further and lower the upper mounting point closer to the hinge that will give you up angle as well as down angle.
Just got a Lenco setup. Hope it helps make a wake lol
Only thing I noticed is the plate is too small. If you can make it longer then you will be good
Hey I love your content! I’m planning a DIY surf tab setup on my boat. Quick dumb question before I start experimenting-does the tab deploy on the surf side of the wake? Or is it like a wedge where you use it on the non-surf side?
Non surf side
If you're building your own, the tab needs to be much bigger than what I had. 12x12 was too small. Needs to be more like 16 to 18 inches long
Your going about the actuator mounting and throw totally wrong. Check out evolution surf tabs and see how they mount the actuators for the up travel and down travel. The way you have done it limits the travel you can achieve from the actuator because of the length. Just another note. On the majority of Malibus from 01 onwards you actually need about 18 degrees of up lift from the tab to keep it out of the water while at surf speeds. Other then that I love your videos and the time you spend trying to help others by doing a lot of the RND for them.
Thanks for the feedback
Wow that is great price. I would probably modify the tabs a bit though by adding some extra crap on them similar to GSA tabs.
Yes. I have an idea for a plate design that will make a huge wave. The new tab will bolt onto the tab that's here now.
New video will be out in the spring. Testing to begin around mid June since that's the soonest we get in the water here
@@GearsAndTech Are your new plates out yet?
@@GearsAndTechany update?
@@GearsAndTechhave you found a solution for that huge wave?
Have you thought about getting a bigger plate? It looks like that one stick out 9 inches from the boat and is 12 inches wide. It looks like they also have a 12 x 12 and 9 x14, would be interesting to see you test a bigger plate size
Also, can you do an updated video with the new mounting points on the back of the boat?
Yes. I'll be doing an updated video with more details of the final mounting and a few different plate sizes
My ultimate plan was to go to a centurion dealer and trace the plate shape on cardboard and cut it out on metal and bolt it to the plate thats already on my boat.
Awesome can’t wait thanks!
Using 2 suck gates versus installing trim tabs on an older v drive. What produces a bigger, longer and better wave? Oh and Hello from Alberta!
Without some time spent on tuning the trim tabs, the 2 suck gates are easier.
@@GearsAndTech Would you say between the 2 the waves produced are comparable? Why is there not an aftermarket suck gate that mounts where a trim tab would go?
Why didn’t you mount the actuator lower and move the mount on the tab? I built an entire kit with your exact kit but I built different tabs that are the exact same as the Infiniti tabs just haven’t installed them because it no time
Yes, I needed to make new tabs that are longer and then move the tabs down lower. I'm working on new plates for another time. Will do a video when I actually do it
Can you help me setup my 2007 Malibu 23 lsv? I would be grateful for your help. I’m at about 8000’ above sea level with the 340 monsoon
Get a good prop for high elevation and weight the back as much as possoble
With extra weight and a suck gate will I get a solid wave from my boat?
You seem to like the surf mode with a lot of ballast nowadays... What happened? Did your opinion change on systems that go down vs systems that go out? And if so, why?
Turns out the most important thing is to have some yaw to the boat.
Probbaly worth making a new video to explain
Surf mode makes an old boat yaw
New boats have found other ways to make the yaw. It's probbaly the biggest advancement since the surf gate itself!
Im working on a custom plate for the back that adds the yaw needed.
From best to least
Yaw surf system
Down deploying surf system
Extreme List the boat hard to surf side
Side deploy surf system
No surf system
@@GearsAndTech What I really want to see is how the combination of Yaw (surf mode style) and the 3 back plates do, along with a little lean and, of course, heavy ballast. Like, on a down-deploy, what exactly is the middle plate for? How does engaging the surf side plate in addition to the NON surf side plate (that initiates the wave) affect the wave? And how does all of that combine with a yaw system like Surf Mode to make the end-all of surf waves? Does a down plate itself create yaw or what? What about a down AND a side deploy combined? Is the yaw all that matters with the side/suck gates, or does their actual deflection/delay of the flow do anything?
So many questions...
Dude mount the actuator lower on the transom and further out on the tabs
Yes, tabs aren't long enough to do that
Was there ballast added to achieve that wave? Trying to possibly do similar change on my 03 tige. May do larger plates
Yes. Ballast bags were used to get the weight up
are you going to make an update to this video?
I'm going through some testing with different fin shapes and such.
What kit is this? Any weight on that back? Looks like a decent wave.
Link is in the description for the kit I used
Im going to make bigger plates for this and see if I can dial it in better
Okay so, buy short actuators and mount them further inside so you dont have to have a helter skelter deck setup. Definitely not fucking with my deck like that on an Xstar.
Actually you want longer tabs. At least 16 to 18 inches long
Then mount the actuator low on the boat and farther out on the plate
What boat do you have?
Centurion cyclone with c4 hull
Completely fake funny how you don’t show the back of your boat with the bigger wave obviously a different boat
You're joking!
Check out my other videos. It's all the same boat