I bought a luxury watch last year, and the potential resale value wasn't a factor at all. I wear it and enjoy it. I will probably give it to my son one day.
Resale value is definitely important to me that’s why most of the time I buy preowened and why I only got my Rolexes at retail. I don’t have alot of money so being able to get out of a watch for what I got in it for has allowed me to enjoy the hobby in a responsible way
The Railmaster is very appealing. Thinking it might be my first luxury purchase. I do also like the Breitling Chronomat 38 on Delray right now. Thanks for the great content as always.
Not for me I don't buy watches with the intent of selling them. I've only sold 3 watches in all my years of collecting. If resale value is a concern buy pre owned it is what it is. Loosing some money on certain watches just goes with the territory.I got s few watches out of Japan 🇯🇵 at good prices brand new. Japan seller's is usually where I go if I want to buy a watch brand new
Frederico, I have a Tiffany Atlas automatic and an 1837 Makers 27mm square watch. Love them both! I also love the CT60. If you get a chance, check out the new version of the CT60 and the new Atlas Moonphase Mechanical watch, which I believe is powered by a Zenith movement. I really enjoy your content. Keep up the great work!
Picked up a MAMACOO's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
My belief is simple: I like watches because of how they look. They're jewelry that moves. The moment I buy or don't buy a watch for the resale value, I've made a wrong decision.
As a collector I've never sold a watch and have accumulated around 30 watches over time. But yes as a buyer I've taken advantage of low resale value of pre-owned watches. And I always negotiate prices from dealers, aiming to get 20% off per Fed which sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
I bought the Blancpain 50 fathoms and now it has a poor resale value. I bought it because it’s the best sports dive watch on the market and didn’t care about selling it in the future. If you want investment go by an ETF or derivatives or structured notes and make 9%. Wonderful videos by the way, I really enjoy your content.
Since I don’t have any social media I was wondering if you would answer my question here? Is the Tag Heuer Seafarer Hoodinkee a good investment watch that might go up in value due to it being a limited edition of 985? Thanks
I agree with your value idea. I only buy watches that I like and therefore buy on the second market. I do not need a “Buying Experience” at a concessionary, as the champagne is not to my taste anyway :-)…joking…When you buy nice watches, e.g. Moser or Chopard to buy on the second market is essential as the difference to the retail price ist so so vast. Both brands have watches that I like and I could not even afford the retail of some watches I bought. Also I not buy watches to sell like someone here before posted. However in my experience you sometimes you come to a point when you have to male decissions and that sometimes means there is watches to be sold, purely to refine the collection which I have just being through, sell 2-3 pieces down on your list to be able to buy a watch that you are switched on, in my example I just sold a 2x Tdr and a GP to buy a platinum Moser Perp Cal. so never say never :-). That is the way watch collection sometimes leads as the average collector not have endlessly deep pockets. So a possible resale value for me is always an issue which means you need to get such watches that I am talking about for a very reasonable price and for me that is what it is all about. I could quote quite some examples like this.
I dont set my Rolex, I wear it most days, and I'll never sell it. Its my Rolex. I do not even like the brand but its still my watch and I wear it. I bought Omega, JLC, these are also mine forever until I will them to my daughter. They mark an event for me and that is their total value.
Watches, like clothing, cars, are consumables. Meant to be worn, used, for enjoyment. Unless you are a buy, and store unused, unworn type, watches were meant to be used, worn. Buy pre-owned watches.
I love all the talk about the big name guys in the watch business can we get a special on just the outliers and I’m not talking about the nominal in a studio underdog, theSinns. Uninematic. But could we see some stuff from an old company like Gervil. Corum. U boat , Baum et Mercer
...I just bought my absolute gril watch on chrono.. parmigiani fleurier kalpa lavaender Blue from 2008. bought it................. 3500euros!!😅 no box no papers, need a service. I will get it serviced for 300euro max...😅 resale value???.... 7to8 thousand Euros 😌😌😌😌👌👌👌👌👌😄😄😄😄 after twelve years of collecting buying saling... I endly did the best Beal of my life for sure!😅😌👌👌 now I'm a happy guy 🎉
The only way I take resale into account is if the watch has a good resale I will generally buy it new and if it has a poor retail I will generally buy preowned
Watches is an investment… at the very top of the market. The most expensive watches, limited edition, off catalogue, Rolex, AP, RM, PP, FPJ tend to retain their value. If you’re looking to just fend off inflation then this works like gold bars. The reason watches aren’t an investment is because most people can only afford the mass produced ones which of course lose value.
Does value retention matter? Unless you're absolutely loaded and truly financially independent, of course it does. Life happens, I know my 126610LV can fetch MSRP + tomorrow. I know if I need to sell my Seamaster I'm taking a hit, a sizeable hit. You lose the value of a Studio Underdog on your Omega (in general) the minute you walk out of the AD. Think about that.
Fredo says don't be afraid to negotiate but what he said in another video is just don't negotiate when you are trying to buy a watch at Delray watch. Fredo doesn't like that!
We would be limited to so few watch options if we considered resale value heavily with each purchase. Buy what you like. If you need to consider resale value maybe you shouldn’t be putting your money elsewhere.
When you base your purchase of something on its resale value you are, in effect, allowing complete strangers to control what you buy and own, since resale value is a popularity contest. Why would you do that? Beats me. Surprising how many people don't understand this. Or maybe they do and just don't care. If so that, too, puzzles me. They say it takes all kinds to make a world and here's proof.
Resale Value is not important if you’re poor and have a few watches. If you’re rich however, you’ll have 100 watches and not wear it, why? You’re basically using it as a gold bar you can wear. Rolex is king because it’s the most liquid, very easy to sell.
You would need to be very irresponsible with money not take care about resale value. Obviously it matters! I buy most watches pre owned and buy Rolex at retail. Why on earth would I buy a brand new watch, decide to sell then get hammered off a dealer? I don't plan on selling watches when I buy them but taste changes, it's part of the collecting journey.
If you're buying watches that are causing that much concern for resale value you're buying watching above your means. Resale value is not a big deal when you're buying watches you can actually afford.
@BourbonInhibitions no it's called being financially responsible. You'll find people who are good with money care about resale value and aren't wreckless
I bought a luxury watch last year, and the potential resale value wasn't a factor at all. I wear it and enjoy it. I will probably give it to my son one day.
That is the way to think about it! Forget resale value.
Love Omegas in general...great technology behind any produxt they make.
I do enjoy wearing my watch’s and yes retention value is important for me for watt I choose for my watch collection
Resale value is definitely important to me that’s why most of the time I buy preowened and why I only got my Rolexes at retail. I don’t have alot of money so being able to get out of a watch for what I got in it for has allowed me to enjoy the hobby in a responsible way
The Railmaster is very appealing. Thinking it might be my first luxury purchase. I do also like the Breitling Chronomat 38 on Delray right now. Thanks for the great content as always.
Not for me I don't buy watches with the intent of selling them. I've only sold 3 watches in all my years of collecting. If resale value is a concern buy pre owned it is what it is. Loosing some money on certain watches just goes with the territory.I got s few watches out of Japan 🇯🇵 at good prices brand new. Japan seller's is usually where I go if I want to buy a watch brand new
Same thought... I have never sold, i feel attached to all of my watches
@@wjackterSame 💯 it's funny how each watch I own makes me feel different. It's like each watch has a certain mood
Resale is very important. Many people say it doesn’t matter….until it’s time to sell the watch. Which one day will most likely will happen.
I have the White face Omega Seamaster. Great watch, looks even better on a rubber. Thanks
Love my Railmaster. Great watch.
Frederico, I have a Tiffany Atlas automatic and an 1837 Makers 27mm square watch. Love them both! I also love the CT60. If you get a chance, check out the new version of the CT60 and the new Atlas Moonphase Mechanical watch, which I believe is powered by a Zenith movement. I really enjoy your content. Keep up the great work!
Really like the Patek you’re wearing!
Picked up a MAMACOO's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
My belief is simple: I like watches because of how they look. They're jewelry that moves. The moment I buy or don't buy a watch for the resale value, I've made a wrong decision.
As a collector I've never sold a watch and have accumulated around 30 watches over time. But yes as a buyer I've taken advantage of low resale value of pre-owned watches. And I always negotiate prices from dealers, aiming to get 20% off per Fed which sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
I bought the Blancpain 50 fathoms and now it has a poor resale value. I bought it because it’s the best sports dive watch on the market and didn’t care about selling it in the future. If you want investment go by an ETF or derivatives or structured notes and make 9%. Wonderful videos by the way, I really enjoy your content.
Guess what? The FF is still the best sports dive watch on the market!
Since I don’t have any social media I was wondering if you would answer my question here? Is the Tag Heuer Seafarer Hoodinkee a good investment watch that might go up in value due to it being a limited edition of 985? Thanks
railmasters are amazing!
Γεια σου φιλε Φρειδερικο. Εισαι λεβεντιά!!!! Παρακολουθω τις εκπομπές που της κανεις με αγαπη. Εκτιμηση και ευχες για επιτυχία.....
Like the roadsters you have in
I agree with your value idea. I only buy watches that I like and therefore buy on the second market. I do not need a “Buying Experience” at a concessionary, as the champagne is not to my taste anyway :-)…joking…When you buy nice watches, e.g. Moser or Chopard to buy on the second market is essential as the difference to the retail price ist so so vast. Both brands have watches that I like and I could not even afford the retail of some watches I bought. Also I not buy watches to sell like someone here before posted. However in my experience you sometimes you come to a point when you have to male decissions and that sometimes means there is watches to be sold, purely to refine the collection which I have just being through, sell 2-3 pieces down on your list to be able to buy a watch that you are switched on, in my example I just sold a 2x Tdr and a GP to buy a platinum Moser Perp Cal. so never say never :-). That is the way watch collection sometimes leads as the average collector not have endlessly deep pockets. So a possible resale value for me is always an issue which means you need to get such watches that I am talking about for a very reasonable price and for me that is what it is all about. I could quote quite some examples like this.
I dont set my Rolex, I wear it most days, and I'll never sell it. Its my Rolex. I do not even like the brand but its still my watch and I wear it. I bought Omega, JLC, these are also mine forever until I will them to my daughter. They mark an event for me and that is their total value.
Thanks Fed!
I liked your Vanguard comment. I recommend VOO.
Watches, like clothing, cars, are consumables. Meant to be worn, used, for enjoyment.
Unless you are a buy, and store unused, unworn type, watches were meant to be used, worn.
Buy pre-owned watches.
I love all the talk about the big name guys in the watch business can we get a special on just the outliers and I’m not talking about the nominal in a studio underdog, theSinns. Uninematic. But could we see some stuff from an old company like Gervil. Corum. U boat , Baum et Mercer
...I just bought my absolute gril watch on chrono.. parmigiani fleurier kalpa lavaender Blue from 2008. bought it................. 3500euros!!😅 no box no papers, need a service. I will get it serviced for 300euro max...😅 resale value???.... 7to8 thousand Euros 😌😌😌😌👌👌👌👌👌😄😄😄😄 after twelve years of collecting buying saling... I endly did the best Beal of my life for sure!😅😌👌👌 now I'm a happy guy 🎉
I don't resale my watches. I saved up for them for keeps.
I want to buy a lower-end Patek for someone who tipped me off to a great investment. Which one do you suggest? He is about 30. Thanks.
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@@gregspitz5246Thanks. That's great.
The only way I take resale into account is if the watch has a good resale I will generally buy it new and if it has a poor retail I will generally buy preowned
Not so much. I even plan on selling my two Rolex's to get another Omega and another Tudor.
Personally I can't stand that "denim" look on the Railmaster dial, although it's a good quality watch.
I buy what I like, regardless of resale or what's chic this week, and I wear them like I'll die tomorrow.
Watches is an investment… at the very top of the market. The most expensive watches, limited edition, off catalogue, Rolex, AP, RM, PP, FPJ tend to retain their value. If you’re looking to just fend off inflation then this works like gold bars. The reason watches aren’t an investment is because most people can only afford the mass produced ones which of course lose value.
Does value retention matter? Unless you're absolutely loaded and truly financially independent, of course it does.
Life happens, I know my 126610LV can fetch MSRP + tomorrow.
I know if I need to sell my Seamaster I'm taking a hit, a sizeable hit.
You lose the value of a Studio Underdog on your Omega (in general) the minute you walk out of the AD. Think about that.
Fredo says don't be afraid to negotiate but what he said in another video is just don't negotiate when you are trying to buy a watch at Delray watch. Fredo doesn't like that!
Just got a Studio Underd0g smoked salmon edition. Just Love the Design and I am happy that the movement got an significant Update.
Meh, flavor of the month.
Depends on your financial situation, if you’re a normal guys then yes, yes it does.
Harry Winston was bought 38K in white gold, Sold 7K USD, you decide......
We would be limited to so few watch options if we considered resale value heavily with each purchase. Buy what you like. If you need to consider resale value maybe you shouldn’t be putting your money elsewhere.
When you base your purchase of something on its resale value you are, in effect, allowing complete strangers to control what you buy and own, since resale value is a popularity contest. Why would you do that? Beats me. Surprising how many people don't understand this. Or maybe they do and just don't care. If so that, too, puzzles me. They say it takes all kinds to make a world and here's proof.
Got my Railmaster from you a few months back on Delray! Loving it.
Was it the cheapest one in the country? 😂
@@jimv.6631 haha it was not
Delray"……just flippers not pleasurable to deal with
Resale value certainly matters. Massive depreciation allows me to acquire some quality watches I couldn’t afford at retail.
Resale Value is not important if you’re poor and have a few watches. If you’re rich however, you’ll have 100 watches and not wear it, why? You’re basically using it as a gold bar you can wear. Rolex is king because it’s the most liquid, very easy to sell.
It's the exact opposite. Resale value is not important to people wealthy enough to wear them purely for enjoyment.
It does if you aren't very wealthy
Wondering why you have your shirt unbuttoned down so far. 🤔 I mean, it’s not like you’re ripped. 😂
You would need to be very irresponsible with money not take care about resale value. Obviously it matters! I buy most watches pre owned and buy Rolex at retail. Why on earth would I buy a brand new watch, decide to sell then get hammered off a dealer? I don't plan on selling watches when I buy them but taste changes, it's part of the collecting journey.
100% agree.
People who lose 25% of their money out the door are irresponsible.
If you're buying watches that are causing that much concern for resale value you're buying watching above your means. Resale value is not a big deal when you're buying watches you can actually afford.
@BourbonInhibitions no it's called being financially responsible. You'll find people who are good with money care about resale value and aren't wreckless
@@BourbonInhibitions Wrong. Same exact thing with cars.
You never buy new cars because they lose money instantly unless you’re making easily 6 figures
No.
Watches are toys. If it’s worth nothing tomorrow, I’m fine.
no one buys it anyway
When it comes to fine imitation watches, MAMACOO delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.
FIRST!
I’m not selling any of my watches bottom line they’re gonna go on the dirt with me 🪦