Bass player mate of mine drove up and bought the 5 string the day it came in and used it on a gig that night. What a great sounding and looking bass, amazing stuff.
The "lack of innovation" commenters clearly have never played or owned a Sire MM. The innovation is the creation of a Custom Shop rival at 2nd hand Mex Fender prices. I've owned a V7 5 and was blown away with it and have now taken delivery of the new P7 which is unbelievable and at the price point. Mate just bought the V9 which is again stunning. You won't buy a better spec bass for twice the price, I've just sold my Fender American P bass as I don't need it and it wasn't as good as the Sire MM. Well done Sire, MM and Andertons for finally stocking them.
LOL, cheap 1000 dollar MIM Fender competition basses? They sound thin, and look like a knock off, with the laughable fake headstock . You get sense in those, you're like the Hyundai driver who thinks he has a Mercedes, LMAO!
You didn't mention that the V7 Vintage has a different bridge pickup position wrt the V7. I think that is closer to the bridge, like the '70s Jazz Basses.
I've owned a lefty V7 since January of 2016 and these basses are great! Pots are solid, the pickups sound great and the tone I get really gets a lot of compliments. I'm thinking perhaps a lefty M7 will be next.
Btw, the primary difference with the V7 Vintage is that it is 70s pickup spacing whereas the normal V7 is 60s. Also the neck is always maple, so it's the only way to get an alder/maple combo.
Marcus Hogan while there is some truth to that you clearly haven't played one. These basses are really something special and can easily compete with basses 3 or 4 times the price
Great demo Nathan and Lee. I've had a Sire Marcus Miller M3 for about a year now and it's become my #1 bass. It offers a huge variety of tones and plays very well.
Don't get why Nathan was on this vid. Kid yaps away non stop. He plays OK but has nothing compared to Nathan which is the only reason I watch these vids.
I picked up my Sire 5 String vintage V7 from Andertons a couple of weeks ago..... and I am soooo happy. It’s a really great bass... at a great price 👍🏾
I love the fact that such great talent as Marcus Miller and the Chappers are doing this deal of making instruments for musicians. WOW! Thanx to Marcus and Rob for such great axes respectively.
they are in the same category as Squiers and MIM Fenders. Made in China I believe. Thin sounding, for wanna be vintage players . People see you with this, it screams - here comes the "hobby bass man".
get over yourself man! good quality is still good quality! to be honest I haven't seen your last platinum album on sale recently so your comment is mute! sir! :)
Happy Holidays Nathan and Lee! Watching this video now and wanted to first thank you both for doing your videos, and this demo of the Sire basses. Secondly as an educator I appreciate the section on you guys giving some history on Marcus Miller. Thank You Gentlemen! Cheers
I have a V7 and a V7 Vintage which imo are amazing for the price. Looking forward to a vid featuring the V9, M7 & M3. Nice to have a UK stockist of these!!
I had a Sire for a few years and it seems they've slowly been gaining traction. For the price they are great, but if you have the money, any nice jazz style bass could be better. You can find a Fender on CL or ebay for just as much, if not a little more sometimes. I sold my Sire, got a Reverend Justice, and I'm never looking back. I think the Sire is a bit 'thin' sounding no matter how you set the EQ. That said, glad I got to experience one.
Great basses but I can't stand the truss adjustment in the body and the headstock shape. Kinda ruins it for me aesthetically but everything else is great.
My Review. Well had my Sire Marcus Miller V7 4 string fretless a while and here are my honest opinions. The bass construction is good and fit and finish is good. Has a huge tonal palette but I just use mine in passive mode. Easy to play so generally all good. The negative points for me. The bridge is terrible. Trying to set up intonation on a fretless is bad enough but this has been the worse one. The saddles don’t stay seated and flop around and lift up and the adjustment screw won’t go back far enough as the thread inside the saddle isn’t long enough so I shortened the screws on mine. It’s just a typical cast cheap bridge so I’ll be changing for something a bit more stable and adjustable. The next bad thing is similar quality to the bridge, the machine heads or tuners if you prefer. Bit slack but also the amount of metal that grinds when turning isn’t a nice feeling. Quite tight to so they will we changed also. I’m not a fan of the lacquered neck but that’s just my choice so may sand that off but over all for the price not too bad. A good second bass or a cheap fretless to get started in to it but I don’t think I would use one as my main bass. I may change my mind after some mods. Hope that helps.
Nathan! Saw you at the Fleece last night with the Blockheads. Awesome as always. Mr Watt-Roy can't be the easiest person to cover for..! Was that a TC electronics head you were using? Thought you'd have a nice 80's British made Trace Elliot to go with the cabs. Really great mate. Crowd loved it
What !!!!! no demo of the P7 (PJ pickups rather that just a 'Jazz' bass)....... Good job I didn't wait for the video before I bought one ;-) I have one of the first 10 P7's in the country & love it... believe or not I've used the active bit as I want to 'get to know it' as a passive bass, then comes the fun stuff i.e active, pedals, etc. The only downside for me is knowing that U.S. customers get the Marcus Miller gig bag included
The pickup blend in my v9 feels like it went all the way if I tweaked it a bit. For example at 4 it feels like entirely bridge pickup, at 6 almost only neck pickup. Is it normal or should I have it checked? (I'm not a pro so I might be entirely mistaken)
Potato, Potato get elixir Strings, they are more expensive but last way longer than standard Roundwounds(they don't last for years, flatwounds do) And with "last" i mean keeping an acceptable tone If you play a lot, standard ones only last like a 3-4 weeks, maybe less
Jorgesx Bass Sire>>MIM Fender Jazz I prefer essential features over the fancy of "my guitar is more expensive to make because it's made by a good conutry for making guitars"
Can someone help me , I got a sire S7 alder 4 string jazz bass today and noticed the pick up selector knob doesn't have a middle knotch to let u know when u are in the centre and using both pick ups it just goes either way freely and I've no idea where the middle is, this is very unlikable and I think I'll return it, is this the case on all sire basses or is mine just queer ?
Lads the tones for the intro! talk about pop! I run a mark bass little mark III and a fender jazz bass but I do not know how to eq this tone ... any tips?
Could you guys be so kind to do a review of fretless m7? There is literally no good review of it on the internet. And Im from Serbia, so I cant really try before I buy. I do have v7 fretless and the fretted ash one. They are awesome.
I wish i knew how to play half the riffs y'all do! I have the technique but barely anything to use this technique with. very sad. (and i play an Ibanez so i could REALLY use one of those)
The bassist in my alternative rock band uses a Marcus Miller Sire jazz and it sounds killer. Lots of attack, loads of low end, and that preamp is super versatile. He uses a pick, but I've played the bass using fingers and it does just as well.
Same here. Gave up watching after seeing a string of videos making all basses sound the same. Even the poor Stingray was made to sound awful. Popped back on here today and surprise surprise, same tired old boring tone.
Once again the Bass market has shown the guitar market the way to go. They did it with amps, now they are doing it with instruments. Whether you like this bass or not, it won't cast you $1500 to find out. I looked at the website and the build materials seem to be very good. Now you can buy a 6 string guitar for $400-$500, but it will have cheap pickups and "pot"metal hardware.
Andertons, I love you guys and Marcus Miller (check out his stuff with Miles Davis) but oh dear, there's nothing new to see here... It's just a Jazz Bass copy with an active pre-amp. They could've at least had a go at a new body style, even if they used the Jazz Bass template to start with - and not just re-shape the headstock. I understand it's all about shifting units out of the shops but try and be a little bit innovative... Must we live in a world where everything looks the same..?!
There are plenty of different basses out there if you aren't into these. Maybe go down to your local music store and have a look around. You'll be astounded at the variety on offer. Not everything looks the same.
It's not just a jazz bass copy, it's a bass built exactly to Marcus's specs. The innovation in this bass is that it was built to sound and play every bit as good as the top of the line Fender basses but at unbelievably low Squier prices. The V7 is stocked with high end features like string thru body, expensive tonewoods, active/passive 18V preamps, et al. There is a reason this is the best selling bass on Thomann and worldwide. If you want more modern design cues (Ibanez style changes in body shape that the OP might call "innovation"), Sire has those as well with the M series. This bass is all about Marcus, high end specs and a low price.
Thing is...try to imagine a new guitar body form, that does not look familiar with something thats already on market, but also looks cool for me it´s like trying to imagine a new colour
G I understand that these are good quality basses, but what im referring to is the design. Why do they keep imitating fenders? Cant they just try to make their own signature design? That shape is already taken.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Marcus Miller gets what he wants and it's what bass players gravitate towards. It would be dumb business not to make a classic jazz shape. Look at the M7 if you want a new shape. Those are beautiful!
Fender used to make Marcus Miller signature Jazz Basses. The reason why so many manufactures "copy" the J and P bass style is because it's a tried and true design that works. Creating a whole new design can be risky because if it doesn't catch on and sell well it could lead to the brand going bankrupt.
What do you want? A galactic cucumber that spurts fire from its teats? And has a low action and is reasonably priced? You give it to me and I'll review it.......
cheap basses! sound like thin metal. No vintage phat fender tone here. Trust that Marcus' bass is special , nothing to do with these cheapo wanna be Fenders. Way too much treble, no low end or growl. At least for me.
That is on the user. You crank up the low end and down on the high end, you'll get a booming sound that only a rapper would want. You have "reviewz" in your channel name; get one and review it?
Bass player mate of mine drove up and bought the 5 string the day it came in and used it on a gig that night. What a great sounding and looking bass, amazing stuff.
The "lack of innovation" commenters clearly have never played or owned a Sire MM. The innovation is the creation of a Custom Shop rival at 2nd hand Mex Fender prices. I've owned a V7 5 and was blown away with it and have now taken delivery of the new P7 which is unbelievable and at the price point. Mate just bought the V9 which is again stunning. You won't buy a better spec bass for twice the price, I've just sold my Fender American P bass as I don't need it and it wasn't as good as the Sire MM. Well done Sire, MM and Andertons for finally stocking them.
Hey how long did it take you to receive it?
LOL, cheap 1000 dollar MIM Fender competition basses? They sound thin, and look like a knock off, with the laughable fake headstock . You get sense in those, you're like the Hyundai driver who thinks he has a Mercedes, LMAO!
Macreviewz here you are again. If you think a headstock and the name on it can be laughable, I think you're laughable.
You didn't mention that the V7 Vintage has a different bridge pickup position wrt the V7. I think that is closer to the bridge, like the '70s Jazz Basses.
I've owned a lefty V7 since January of 2016 and these basses are great! Pots are solid, the pickups sound great and the tone I get really gets a lot of compliments. I'm thinking perhaps a lefty M7 will be next.
Btw, the primary difference with the V7 Vintage is that it is 70s pickup spacing whereas the normal V7 is 60s. Also the neck is always maple, so it's the only way to get an alder/maple combo.
Huge props to Rory for the edit. The stereo sounds great through my headphones. Also great playing as always guys!
Marcus Hogan while there is some truth to that you clearly haven't played one. These basses are really something special and can easily compete with basses 3 or 4 times the price
Ollie King I didn’t say anything about the bases at all. I don’t know what you’re talking about?
well i clearly replied to the wrong comment sorry haha
Please please please do an all about the FRETLESS bass!!
Will do - I'll make it sound horrible though! 😉
Great demo Nathan and Lee. I've had a Sire Marcus Miller M3 for about a year now and it's become my #1 bass. It offers a huge variety of tones and plays very well.
Don't get why Nathan was on this vid. Kid yaps away non stop. He plays OK but has nothing compared to Nathan which is the only reason I watch these vids.
I picked up my Sire 5 String vintage V7 from Andertons a couple of weeks ago..... and I am soooo happy. It’s a really great bass... at a great price 👍🏾
I love the fact that such great talent as Marcus Miller and the Chappers are doing this deal of making instruments for musicians. WOW! Thanx to Marcus and Rob for such great axes respectively.
they are in the same category as Squiers and MIM Fenders. Made in China I believe. Thin sounding, for wanna be vintage players . People see you with this, it screams - here comes the "hobby bass man".
get over yourself man! good quality is still good quality! to be honest I haven't seen your last platinum album on sale recently so your comment is mute! sir! :)
Macreviewz here you are again, sounding really intelligent.
That's a proper bit of wood, that "is!"
- Lee
It is extremely entertaining to watch and listen to these guys! The best reviews on youtube!
The jams keep delivering the good stuff! Gonna need more!
Great stuff guys as always. I have to agree, these Sire basses certainly are feature packed and a seriously good price point
thank you, guys! I've been waiting for this review for so long
Happy Holidays Nathan and Lee! Watching this video now and wanted to first thank you both for doing your videos, and this demo of the Sire basses. Secondly as an educator I appreciate the section on you guys giving some history on Marcus Miller. Thank You Gentlemen! Cheers
I own a Vintage V7 and its a beast!
I ordered the V7 5-string Swamp Ash today from Andertons! Can't wait to get it!
I have a V7 and a V7 Vintage which imo are amazing for the price. Looking forward to a vid featuring the V9, M7 & M3. Nice to have a UK stockist of these!!
I had a Sire for a few years and it seems they've slowly been gaining traction. For the price they are great, but if you have the money, any nice jazz style bass could be better. You can find a Fender on CL or ebay for just as much, if not a little more sometimes. I sold my Sire, got a Reverend Justice, and I'm never looking back. I think the Sire is a bit 'thin' sounding no matter how you set the EQ. That said, glad I got to experience one.
Guitar player but I just bought Yamaha trbx great value.
These Sire basses look and sound great a with all the bell's and whistles!
Nice Description. But it would help to know what knots the guy is using WHILE the other guy is playing...
I recall having a MM signature Fender Jazz in my hands and letting it go. What a great bass! These sound ok but...
Tone is killer
You guys are great SALESMAN ,I WANT ALL OF THEM
I dont understand why people are complaining about the headstock. I think it is beautiful. Kind of looks like a Sadousky.
As a kid Marcus played a bass clarinet if I'm not mistaken. Don't forget the time that Marcus almost turned David Sanborn into a house whole name.
Make a comparision video between the alder and ash basses please
These new Sire basses sound killer!
comparative between P7 and V7 next time ? 4 and 5 strings ?
Great basses but I can't stand the truss adjustment in the body and the headstock shape. Kinda ruins it for me aesthetically but everything else is great.
Haha yes on the end jam! Did you end up getting the 5 Lee?
what song did they jam on?
Billsfour gah, the name is on the tip of my tongue but I can’t remember it. I’m terrible with song names
My Review. Well had my Sire Marcus Miller V7 4 string fretless a while and here are my honest opinions. The bass construction is good and fit and finish is good. Has a huge tonal palette but I just use mine in passive mode. Easy to play so generally all good. The negative points for me. The bridge is terrible. Trying to set up intonation on a fretless is bad enough but this has been the worse one. The saddles don’t stay seated and flop around and lift up and the adjustment screw won’t go back far enough as the thread inside the saddle isn’t long enough so I shortened the screws on mine. It’s just a typical cast cheap bridge so I’ll be changing for something a bit more stable and adjustable. The next bad thing is similar quality to the bridge, the machine heads or tuners if you prefer. Bit slack but also the amount of metal that grinds when turning isn’t a nice feeling. Quite tight to so they will we changed also. I’m not a fan of the lacquered neck but that’s just my choice so may sand that off but over all for the price not too bad. A good second bass or a cheap fretless to get started in to it but I don’t think I would use one as my main bass. I may change my mind after some mods. Hope that helps.
Had a look on line and there is no lefty's please tell me you have some of them on the way.
Nice job...Folks...Luther forever !!!!
Can’t find listing for the Fretless versions. When will they be available to see or order? Ta muchly 👍
Dumb question, what is the song at the end that they jam to? Thanks! Love video and playing!
Better than ibanez sr300? Great for rock?? Thank's...
Nathan! Saw you at the Fleece last night with the Blockheads. Awesome as always. Mr Watt-Roy can't be the easiest person to cover for..! Was that a TC electronics head you were using? Thought you'd have a nice 80's British made Trace Elliot to go with the cabs. Really great mate. Crowd loved it
What !!!!! no demo of the P7 (PJ pickups rather that just a 'Jazz' bass)....... Good job I didn't wait for the video before I bought one ;-) I have one of the first 10 P7's in the country & love it... believe or not I've used the active bit as I want to 'get to know it' as a passive bass, then comes the fun stuff i.e active, pedals, etc. The only downside for me is knowing that U.S. customers get the Marcus Miller gig bag included
Typo . . . . 'believe or not I've NOT used the active bit
Did you watch the whole thing?
Yes but I'm impatient !!!.....Looking forward to Part 2 ;-)
19:11
That convinced me
so surprised how damn good these basses sound for their price. i bet a lot of the "big boy bass" companies are starting to get worried.
The boy can play the bass!
Man, I wish Sire made a yellow V7.
Guys, fender Jazz bass MIM or V7? Which serves more as a Jazz Bass?
The pickup blend in my v9 feels like it went all the way if I tweaked it a bit. For example at 4 it feels like entirely bridge pickup, at 6 almost only neck pickup.
Is it normal or should I have it checked?
(I'm not a pro so I might be entirely mistaken)
I would 100% love to get a bass, but the strings are so expensive.
But you don’t have to change them nearly as often.
Once they're dull, just boil em in hot water for 15 minutes.
Won't make them as good as new but nearly so.
Flat wounds will last forever, some people play them for years!
Am I the only one that thought this was meant as a joke?
Potato, Potato get elixir Strings, they are more expensive but last way longer than standard Roundwounds(they don't last for years, flatwounds do)
And with "last" i mean keeping an acceptable tone
If you play a lot, standard ones only last like a 3-4 weeks, maybe less
Nice Job...Congratulations!!!Sire X Fender MIM?Thku.
I have both and Sire gives you more for the money.
Jorgesx Bass Sire>>MIM Fender Jazz
I prefer essential features over the fancy of "my guitar is more expensive to make because it's made by a good conutry for making guitars"
Can someone help me , I got a sire S7 alder 4 string jazz bass today and noticed the pick up selector knob doesn't have a middle knotch to let u know when u are in the centre and using both pick ups it just goes either way freely and I've no idea where the middle is, this is very unlikable and I think I'll return it, is this the case on all sire basses or is mine just queer ?
Nice vid, sounds great :-)
True story about Marcus and the clarinet. He plays the bass clarinet for real.
would have been nice to see the p7 range rather than just the V7
As I say at the end (if only you watched all of it!) reviews for them coming soon.....
Lads the tones for the intro! talk about pop! I run a mark bass little mark III and a fender jazz bass but I do not know how to eq this tone ... any tips?
Brian Fitzpatrick scoop the mids.
All flat as I recall, great eq on the basses though - very flexible!
2 of the basses you link to have P+J pickup configurations, where are those here, those would be the ones people are interested in methinks?
If you watch the whole video you will hear that I say that we will feature that series in a future episode......
I did watch it, must have missed that :)
Watch it again! 😉
are they 2 or 3 pieces bodies?
What do you think? Sire M3 or Ibanez SR300E?
Bar Goldstein still the Ibanez SR for me.
Ibanez all day
Also try for the sr300e, it's got some good stuff like split coils and more I think.
Spongebob i meant the SR300E. I tried the SR370E and it was great, but it's not all that good ergonomically
Do you want a jazz style or a more modern style? Kind of up to you.
Sire v9 not?
Hey bruh, please have a Review of Elegee Bass from Philippines by Jon Dela Cruz.
10:55 - 11:00 ok, this is _very_ interesting
Where is the PB model ?
Coming.......
1st generation?
The reason the ‘player inhibiter’ existed in the 60’s was to shield the pickups from interference.
When electronics improved, these weren’t needed🙂
Could you guys be so kind to do a review of fretless m7? There is literally no good review of it on the internet. And Im from Serbia, so I cant really try before I buy.
I do have v7 fretless and the fretted ash one. They are awesome.
Yeah, I'll make Lee play it! 😉
sire p7 please
I wish i knew how to play half the riffs y'all do! I have the technique but barely anything to use this technique with. very sad. (and i play an Ibanez so i could REALLY use one of those)
I wish you would show how these basses sound in a rock context when you do these videos, all this funky jazzy stuff leaves me cold.
Duly noted! 😉
The bassist in my alternative rock band uses a Marcus Miller Sire jazz and it sounds killer. Lots of attack, loads of low end, and that preamp is super versatile. He uses a pick, but I've played the bass using fingers and it does just as well.
Thanks! I, too, would also like to hear both pop and rock. Just a simple "boom, b-boom" from time to time.
Not possible! 😉
Same here. Gave up watching after seeing a string of videos making all basses sound the same. Even the poor Stingray was made to sound awful. Popped back on here today and surprise surprise, same tired old boring tone.
That's a proper bit o' wood there innit?
The guy on the right makes my wrist hurt looking at it lol.
Why? What are you doing?
hi
hi bob
Once again the Bass market has shown the guitar market the way to go. They did it with amps, now they are doing it with instruments. Whether you like this bass or not, it won't cast you $1500 to find out. I looked at the website and the build materials seem to be very good. Now you can buy a 6 string guitar for $400-$500, but it will have cheap pickups and "pot"metal hardware.
11:15 wow that bass
Do bassist play anything other than what they play every time
What do you mean?
no, not really, bass players usually play bass when they are playing bass
Actually good bassists. So rare
I'm sure the slappers will love these but not for me.
Lee didn't slap at all and his stuff sounded great.....
Andertons, I love you guys and Marcus Miller (check out his stuff with Miles Davis) but oh dear, there's nothing new to see here... It's just a Jazz Bass copy with an active pre-amp. They could've at least had a go at a new body style, even if they used the Jazz Bass template to start with - and not just re-shape the headstock. I understand it's all about shifting units out of the shops but try and be a little bit innovative... Must we live in a world where everything looks the same..?!
There are plenty of different basses out there if you aren't into these. Maybe go down to your local music store and have a look around. You'll be astounded at the variety on offer. Not everything looks the same.
It's not just a jazz bass copy, it's a bass built exactly to Marcus's specs. The innovation in this bass is that it was built to sound and play every bit as good as the top of the line Fender basses but at unbelievably low Squier prices. The V7 is stocked with high end features like string thru body, expensive tonewoods, active/passive 18V preamps, et al. There is a reason this is the best selling bass on Thomann and worldwide. If you want more modern design cues (Ibanez style changes in body shape that the OP might call "innovation"), Sire has those as well with the M series. This bass is all about Marcus, high end specs and a low price.
Look at the Sire M7.
Thing is...try to imagine a new guitar body form, that does not look familiar with something thats already on market, but also looks cool
for me it´s like trying to imagine a new colour
Your missing the point..... it's about getting good quality instruments down to a decent price point
Another "me too" brand
lol, ask all the pros who use these basses if it's a "me too brand".
G I understand that these are good quality basses, but what im referring to is the design. Why do they keep imitating fenders? Cant they just try to make their own signature design? That shape is already taken.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Marcus Miller gets what he wants and it's what bass players gravitate towards. It would be dumb business not to make a classic jazz shape. Look at the M7 if you want a new shape. Those are beautiful!
Fender used to make Marcus Miller signature Jazz Basses. The reason why so many manufactures "copy" the J and P bass style is because it's a tried and true design that works. Creating a whole new design can be risky because if it doesn't catch on and sell well it could lead to the brand going bankrupt.
What do you want? A galactic cucumber that spurts fire from its teats? And has a low action and is reasonably priced? You give it to me and I'll review it.......
Just another jazz bass copy... boring
How many of those can you find that are quality and have a 3 band active EQ for under 500? Go on, name a few.
cheap basses! sound like thin metal. No vintage phat fender tone here. Trust that Marcus' bass is special , nothing to do with these cheapo wanna be Fenders. Way too much treble, no low end or growl. At least for me.
That is on the user. You crank up the low end and down on the high end, you'll get a booming sound that only a rapper would want. You have "reviewz" in your channel name; get one and review it?