I'm not taking anything away from Eric, but it's quite damning that a professional sports show that was a part of a million dollar network got completely outmatched in weekday coverage by a guy filming in a room in his house. It really drives home how these television networks are still struggling to adapt to the internet
@@jakehobby3477 Same, really hoping radioactive can maybe get moved to like youtube shorts instead of a broadcast and not be gone completely, or at least something similar where we here the radio conversations throughout the race.
I have a step sister who use to work for FOX Sports and she believes that they're just in it for the money. For the commercial breaks "Breaks equals revenue."
@@JeffWeselyan I hate to say this but i'm sure there is a really good reason why they have so many Herbert Cam shots, probably a good idea (on paper) with a horrible execution but yea, I don't like it either
As a fan of Truex, that clip of him coasting across the finish line yesterday as the crowd was chanting, "Go! Go! Go! Go!" as they erupted in cheers gave me chills
I’d give it a C- Harvick was the only main positive you can look at this season. I think the booth itself is not the problem. They were all good this year and bowyer was much better. The problem is all the inexcusable things Fox still does that we have beat a dead horse with. Random taking commercials with 8 laps to go. Panning away from good battles on track to focus in on the crowd and taking like 10 seconds to pan over when there was a crash or a controversy on track or pit road. Good thing for Fox is we had a lot of magical moments this season on Fox
D- to an F- only the booth was good. The production and camera crew OML I have absolutely no words🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🙄🙄! Cut a lot of the commercials as well.
I don't watch many races live any more (mostly just Daytona & Dega), but 2 things stick out to me. The amount of super zoomed in close shots on maybe 1-2 cars when there are 5 cars possibly battling for the same spot happen waaay too often. Also I haven't seen any one else mention this (so it could be a personal issue), but I am not a fan of having 1/4th of the screen blocked by the standings/ticker. There has to be a better way so that we aren't potentially missing action behind an opaque standings graphic.
The volume of missed track events and commercials is bad but my biggest pet peeve is the driver tracker on the left. It stays at 1-20 forever then eventually goes to 11-20, 21-30, 31-last but it flies through them. Plus it seems completely random when it does. Maybe it's a Sonoma thing but the interval between drivers was all over the place.
what i think of is my granddad who got me into racing, he lost his sight in his 60's and still had the race on tv every sunday, everytime the announcers lazily don't describe the action or lay out for 2 minutes i think of him or any other older blind fans trying to enjoy the race
MRN and PRN radio saves me every race weekend. I mute the TV and crank my speakers. Just Google MRN or PRN depending which race and listen to real Nascar commentary.
I’ve turned off races when they start the commercials every 3 mins. I know it’s not a fair comparison but skysports shows the F1 races with no breaks, even their Indycar coverage has their own announcer during breaks on NBC. Even here in Canada it’s the same damn 5 commercials, that have nothing to do with a NASCAR audience.
I have $2000 worth of computer/AV equipment to record live broadcasts and mark the commercial breaks in those broadcasts. Then, when I'm watching the broadcast (time-shifted by a few hours) and a commercial comes on, I can hit a button on the remote and get back to racing. NASCAR broadcasts back in 2000 or so were the impetus for this setup. On a side note, you'd be surprised how little actual play time there is in an NFL game when they're not standing around waiting for a commercial to complete. You can literally watch one in about an hour, 15 minutes if you're skipping commercial breaks.
I think I hated most about Fox this year was the first couple races they would do Crank It Up during pitstops instead of when the cars are on the track
Agree with pretty much all of the points made in this video. The Cup broadcasts were still similar to the past few years, although as you said it was good to finally have some consistency and I thought harvick was a good addition. The only thing that got a little bit old was Harvick consistently dunking on Clint. It’s funny from time to time but it got to the point where it almost felt forced. Xfinity was solid too. I think Adam Alexander is good, the only thing that bugs me about him is he falls in to the trap of where he just gets too goofy and too off track. Joey Logano being in the booth over and over again definitely wasn’t the best either, but I think he’d be okay if he also is able to tone down the silliness The Truck broadcasts continue to be absolutely nauseating to sit through. The Little/Paraons/Waltrip booth is like the group of kids in school working on a project together that constantly get distracted and can’t go more than 30 seconds straight staying focused. Phil Parsons is good, but Jamie Little falls into the same a category as Vince Welch where they’re really good pit reporters but just don’t have what it takes to be in the booth. And Michael Waltrip… you should make a whole video about him alone and how awful he is. Couple all that in with as you said the terrible camera angles, transitions, checking to see how Daniel Dye’s doing in 17th, kids in the stands, pit reporters asking drivers questions or telling them things that have nothing to do with racing, etc. I hope Fox can improve in the next TV deal because post-COVID, it’s really been sad to see the decline and lack of care displayed by Fox. Cup - B Xfinity - B- Trucks - F
The best NASCAR broadcasts were the 80's & 90's by ESPN with Bob Jenkins, Benny Parsons & Ned Jarrett in the booth with Dr, Jerry Punch, John Kernan and Bill Weber. That's the formula that needs to be copied today.
Completely agree that Fox treats the broadcast the same was as 20 years ago but things have changed considerably since then with streaming and so many more options available. Too many commercials, coming back from a commercial to show full screen promotion for something, commercials after just a few laps etc. Also coming back from commercials and showing side stuff /fluff stuff instead of showing live racing is infuriating.
Tbh I don’t think anyone watched race hub anymore since the early 2010s on speed when there was actually care put into it. I feel like Steve Byrnes passing really had a part in the nascar on fox decline. I don’t blame fox for cutting race hub because of its lack of care but I do think nascar needs there own streaming service that houses practice and qualifying and the race broadcasts from all 3 series and also put up their own version of race hub on TH-cam or on their own streaming service if it ever happens
Yes, Joy is a step slower in certain aspects, but hell if I make it to his age, I hope I'm half as witty and remember that much of any past. My big thing with Fox wasn't the booth this year, it was the "production" / "director" / "camera" side of things. The booth would call things that the cameras totally missed, or just wouldn't show a reply on; would cut away to the wrong thing, and the post race coverage was complete ass. That isn't the booth, that's higher levels.
I don't watch the races per se, but I do try to listen to them on the radio. And after doing some calculations on The Groovy gauge for Eric Estepp's Channel the races on Fox average at 70.29%, excluding The Clash.
Even the radio does a better job at making it seem more exciting. Nothing against the guys they have in the booth, but in my opinion, I’d rather listen to PRN or MRN on the radio then watching at all on fox
I thought NASCAR on FOX was starting to improve a little bit better after the 2024 Daytona 500. Nope, of course not…. At least Mike Joy and Kevin Harvick were a good duo! Pit road reporting is still good, and… Bowyer wasn’t too bad? Congrats, Clint. Other than that, everything else is just, ugh….
Worth noting that Leigh Diffey will be taking Rick Allen's place after the Olympic break. Also, Chris Myers is just terrible as well, he has no poker face, he just looks completely uninterested in what he's doing and we all can tell. Very weird that he is still covering Nascar.
The in booth give grade Nascar cup series Mike joy C Kevin Harvick C- Clint Bowyer B Nascar xfinity series Adam Alexander F Rotation of drivers and crew chiefs. F Nascar Craftsman Truck Series Booth announcers Adam Alexander (rotating play-by-play) F Jamie Little (rotating play-by-play) F Phil Parsons (color commentator) A Michael Waltrip (color commentator) D Rotation of drivers and crew chiefs F
I think even ESPN and their ladder part of the years where they didn’t even care about NASCAR did a better job than Fox did the past few years especially this year which was terrible.
A lot of people criticize walltrip, but honestly, when he left, there was a gap that needed to be filled. That wasn’t really filled correctly, although Jeff was a good addition, like I think they still miss Darrell to this day, he just brought so much enthusiasm and it was never dry. As for Larry, he’s basically in every race but only for strategy it would’ve been cool to see him stay in the booth rather than being in a side booth.
That wouldn't be great because it would still be an unevolved booth. As much as I love DW, it was clear that it was time for him to go. He had spent so many years out of the seat, and being in his seventies meant he had virtually no relatability to modern racing. The sport passed him by. As a result, he had to resort to relying on his goofiness, which just made him look like a cooky old man. DW's prime was a perfect mix of his racing coverage and goofiness, and that prime was long gone in 2019. With all that said, however, it is also apparent that Fox has never filled the void DW left behind, and it honestly feels like he was the soul of their coverage. It's no wonder that Fox's coverage feels so lifeless
DW was getting too silly by the time gen 6 came around. DW was great during the gen4 and gen 5 days, DW having driven gen 4 cars and being able to somewhat relate to gen 5, bur by 2013 he was getting stale.
I think the booth is not the problem when it comes to Fox as they did a decent job. The biggest issue with Fox is the production quality which is absolutely terrible. I agree with Iceberg that Fox's coverage has not evolved at all very similar to how ESPN covered Indycar during the final decade they had the rights. Speaking of Indycar, I really hope that Fox does not get the rights to Indycar because they would treat Indycar even worse than NASCAR which Indycar does not need (they already have enough problems as it is like Honda threatening to leave after 2026). Indycar needs to renew their deal with NBC or go to the CW so that every race is free on over the air TV & more fans can watch.
I think Nascar should sellout to one of the major streaming platforms like Peacock or Netflix. There are so many commercials during green flags and then you add cautions onto that and it’s hard. Going to commercial under green is the one thing I can’t wrap my head around.
They already sold one package to Amazon next year. I agree for the most part except a large part of their fans are older so if you completely eliminate cable TV, that’s gonna kill a lot of viewership. Since 95% of people who are older who make up the majority number of people watching, only have cable TV. So it could be rough for a year or two. They need to get younger people more interested in the sport it’s happening, but they still have older people who are majority watching compared to younger audience
FOX is treating NASCAR more like an entertainment property more than an actual racing series. I don't know what Phelps and company still see in this network when it's clear as day that FOX doesn't give two shits about the sport. They dropped NASCAR Race Hub and less races are now going to be broadcast on the primary network with cable taking the majority of that slice, not to mention that, in my opinion, I fully believe the directors are groomers since they love the kids so much, it's actually disgusting and uncomfortable to watch. I hope that the Prime streaming portion of the schedule will completely blow FOX out of the water. I really hope they do.
You guys are hilarious, just wait till you find out who owns USA. Another person that has also been on Epstein's island, but hey apparently you guys know best right?
Here’s an idea for a video to do What’s NASCAR on FOX gonna look like next year? BECAUSE in 2025 FOX is taking over coverage of the INDYCAR series, including the Indianapolis 500 & all the races will be on FOX, not their cable networks like FS1 How many NASCAR races are getting sacrificed to the FOX cable networks & how many races are gonna shown on the regular FOX channel? Gonna be really interesting next year with FOX’s racing coverage; both NASCAR & INDYCAR
As for the Xfinty and Truck side, Its also annoying when they shove their talent into a sound stage in Charlotte instead of sending them to the tracks. And for trucks, its only going to get worse as its going to be 3 people in a booth in charlotte just about every race. Another thing I have noticed is Fox has been getting REALLY lazy with their timing and scoring pylon. If the cup series isnt there, or road courses for stand alone trucks/xfinity, they just set up something at the start finish line. Meaning we only see where everyone truly is at the start finish line. And that is the only time we can see how close someone is to the leader. Yea we have eyes but I like numbers. And its annoying when we go from cup having decent timing scoring, to trucks where it doesnt do anything until the line. In general, its just broke. Sonoma had so many issues when they would get to turns 8-11 where cars would set off randomly and cause the pylon to switch drivers up 20 positions until the whole field cleared those timing lines. It just seems as if they got to a point, but because they are going to try to get Indycar races, they decided to just stop improving the fox broadcast. Everything has been the same since 2020. And its stale after 4 years of the same broadcast with nothing new but what mini segments you cover the racing action with.
And to be directly fair. I don't know about other countries, but I saw few different countries translations, and I can tell you that in most countries we see race in full length without commercials at all. So it doesn't affect international viewers at all
@@extragoogleaccount6061 ask me and I'll give you some links 😉 Russia(pirated of course, but before it ran without ads on TV), Saudi Arabia, Baltic countries. To name a few. I think used to even Canadian translation was without ads.
Got that right. I stopped watching Nascar because of the commercials. Even baseball holds their commercials breaks to inning change, pitcher change, timeouts. Fox should take pointers from the MLB. Oh wait, they also host the MLB playoffs... They know how to show sports events, so why does Nascar get the short end... huh, fox. Goodbye, don't let the door .........on your way out.
When it comes to a great broadcast, remember the great finishes from years ago? You remember what the announcers were saying as it happened, we had two count them two of the greatest finishes in Nascar history this year and the booth sounded so anti climactic during those. It’s a real shame man
Aw like the truck broadcast, Jamie little always needed more time, Jamie Howe is great too Probably weakest moments this season in Xfinity (inviting truck drivers to the booth) and in Cup (long green flag runs and then struggling to fill the air, that one time clint was out of it for half a race and harvick joked about it, vegas was it). Xfinity was probably my favorite of their briadcast, Blaney (needs to be there more), Logano (needs to be permanent), and Kesselowski are my dream team, they're great.
I really loved the booth this year and thought that Joy, Harvick, and Boyer absolutely saved the broadcast to a watchable point every week despite the production. I would give all 3 of them an A but I also do admit it is hard for me to not enjoy Mike Joy and we all want more personality from the drivers so I don't mind the Harvick/Bowyer dynamic between them. Yes it was a little too far once or twice, and credit to if I remember correctly Joy grabbing the reigns of the conversation in those moments and pulling us back to the race and on topic without much awkward dead air, I enjoyed the Harvick word of the day because that is just up my nerdy alley, and I honestly have nothing negative to say about the booth because as mentioned Harvick/Bowyer have about 9 months or so to work on their chemistry. With that said, on to production, I think this is arguably the worst job a production team has done to cover Nascar races, by any broadcasting group, not just FOX, ever, or at least since I have been watching since the early 2000's. As mentioned the amount of times we were getting told about something by Harvick or Bowyer, only to never see it live, or just a replay after the fact, and I felt like they just didn't show the right cars or battle going on almost all of the time of every race, and I have been watching long enough that I don't think it is the camera men and women who are to blame, we have seen time and time again over the years that Nascar camera operators are more than capable of getting at least a viewable angle of just about anything, so it to me must be whoever is choosing which camera to show, and whoever is telling these camera operators to look at a Kyle Larson shirt in the crowd every 10 laps, or follow around a car on its own lap a few laps down, etc. It was so bad that I found myself in the last 2 races at Sonoma and Gateway, through I would say the first half to maybe even 2/3 of the race doing something else while it was on the TV, like playing a video game, and just listening to the 3 in the booth because that is just about the same if not does a better job than watching it only to not see what was going on, and that is the first time I have ever really gotten to that point, outside of maybe a few minutes on my phone here and there and talking with others that I am watching it with, A cup race on the TV prior to the last few weeks has always had my undivided attention. Really disappointed in everyone involved behind the cameras outside of the actual camera operators themselves just doing what they are told.
The booth was solid, production was bad. Yeah they either took too long to cut to where something was happening, if they even cut at all. And the crowd zoom ins were too frequent to the point where it started to become weird. Regarding the commercials they were far too frequent and they were usually the same block of commercials too. Also really got sick of seeing the Fox Nation commercials. (And yes I would have the same reaction if NBC loaded their commercials with MSNBC ads).
My rating for FOX this year, 4/10. Credit where it's due, the booth were generally good, and the new pit-road segments where they actually highlight the members of pit-crews was a really good addition to the broadcast, but that's where the compliments end. Production overall was just bad, camera work was beyond a joke and the commercials seemed louder and more frequent.
My grade for each series on Fox: Cup C+, other two are F's, because I can't stand Alexander(and one or two guest Cup drivers), much have rather preferred like back in early 2000's(but with Joy, Harvick, Bowyer). As for Trucks, I'm surprised that Fox still continues after this year. Thought the series would go somewhere else.
It doesn’t matter how good the booth get compared to the week before the production will always be terrible. Whether it’s the zoomed in camera angles or just completely missing something super important like a fight or a crash or something that the average viewer would really need to see. It’s like they don’t even care. They cut off the second the race most of the time. The replays like yesterday it even froze when they tried to show a crash. Like I thought there was something wrong with my TV, but I found out it was just crappy fox production. Like get your crap, right. All they do is spend time on Fox News trying to make that right, but they can’t focus on anything else
outside of commercial revenue that Fox can bring in during their portion of the schedule I really wonder why Fox re-upped when it's not hard to tell they lost interest in Nascar over the last few years. On the booth Joy and Harvick were great and if I have to I can put up with Bowyer but whenever Joy retires I say you move Harvick to Joy's position keep Bowyer then for enthusiasm but bring in a a driver/ crew chief who can do the technical break downs like Larry Mac could do from the booth.
Yeah, when Clint and Kevin make comments about the lack of direction a fair amount while live. Maybe Clint should be the director, because whoever is current doing the job doesn't care.
Yeah, that's been going around lately... Kathleen Kennedy blames Star Wars for her failures. All so many others now blame others for not seeing their vision.
My grade pretty much tracks with yours, although I’m a little more critical of Bowyer. His hee-haw-yee-haw carnival barking, cliche spouting is way past old. He seems to want to come off as the smartest guy on the broadcast when most of the time he comes off as the opposite. I like Harvick’s keeping Bowyer’s ego in check, especially when he needles him about not having driven the Next Gen car. One omission is Mikey’s cringey grid walks. It seems like most of the time the drivers look at him like he’s a crazy guy looking for his meds.
I watch the races live. I have my Playstation running and switch to that during commercial. WAY to many commercials. They appear to not cover Chase Elliott on purpose most of the time. I'm sure the haters are gonna hate. But he is the most popular driver. When Dale Jr was racing he was covered endlessly. Whoever is calling out what cameras to use and when is obviously on crack. Clint Boyer and the way he says Toyota drives me insane. Towyota...
If it was possible, I'd give Fox a F- They are just calling it in at this point. When the booth calls out action and the cameras are nowhere near it... and on top of that Bowyer CALLING THEM OUT... you prove you just DGAF.
Ok. I Give NASCAR On FOX, A E. But, The Budweiser Shootout At DAYTONA, Needs To Be Broadcasted, Along With DAYTONA 500 Qualifying, As Well As Speedweeks, And As Well As The DAYTONA 500, Races, From DAYTONA In February, The 1st Races, To Sonoma In June, ALL On NBC, And As For The Truck Series, Have Adam Alexander, In The Booth, For The NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series, Full-Time, And Replace Michael Waltrip, For Martin Truex Jr.
I doubt they replace Mike with someone that is as knowledgeable as Mike is. Real shame because I love that part about Mike. I think it’s a great spot for Fox
D+ for FOX Sports this year while they tried some new things like showing us driver pit crews their common issues bleed through and its really noticable like how they only got 1 angle of Corey LaJoie flipping at Talladega or had a battle for the lead at Gateway and showed a fan for a split second and its evident that commentators and pit reporters are the ones who actually care about the broadcast. What they need to do or get rid of next year: -Jamie Little needs to be kept on pit road she's not cut out to be a commentator my ears bleed everytime she tries to make something sound exciting or when she butchers a call -Michael Waltrip is better doing gridwalk all I hear from him is something about Daniel Dye and how he's a great kid when the first thing that comes to my mind about him is when he kicked someone in the balls -More crank it up segments and it should mostly be on the racetrack I appreciate FOX for switching it up and having it on pit road sometimes but its more enjoyable on the racetrack -Clint Bowyer needs to at least not crack jokes all the time when its not necessary bc he makes being funny his entire personality -The camera crews actually need to be watching the track I don't mind them showing kids or fans when its not taking away from something interesting on the racetrack -Commercials need to seriously be cut down to where they're not every 10 laps bc I hate the commercials so much that I watch the international feed bc it goes uninterrupted for free -Cartoon driver portraits need to go most of them just look weird or straight up bad and I'd rather see real driver pictures from production day that they do in January rather than the ugly comic drawings -Highlighting driver pit crews was something that was a nice touch this year and should come back -I can understand not having enough time in the TV window for some interviews but I want to hear more drivers instead of just the winner and 2nd place finisher
my nascar schedule for 2025 is this 1 Daytona 2 Sonoma 3 las Vegas 4 Phoenix 5 Circuit of Americans 6 Atlanta 7 Richmond 8 martinsville 9 Texas 10 Talladega 11 Bristol 12 Kansas 13 darlington 14 all star race North Wilkesboro 15 Charlotte 16 Gateway 17 Iowa 18 Dover 19 Indianapolis 20 Pocono 21 Michigan 22 walking Glenn 23 streets of Chicago 24 Atlanta 25 Daytona regular season finale 26 darlington 27 Kansas 28 Bristol 29 Michigan 30 Talladega 31 Charlotte Orval 32 Las Vegas 33 homestead Miami 34 martinsville 36 Phoenix
Yeah, I agree. I kind of feel bad for the guys in the booth. You can tell they know we are frustrated, I'm sure they are, too, having to keep covering Fox's ass. Even just at Sonoma, they showed a replay and it didn't work and Mike had to apologize and say they'll get that replay for us soon. Always having to cover up Fox's mistakes and issues.
Production, camera angles and commercials. ironically three commercials as I tried to watch this video. But in all seriousness really bothered me to hear, usually Mike Joy, yelling about a spin or a wreck or a non wreck, that we had no clue about until later. Too much important stuff missed by what I assume is the bad camera angles but that may go back to production as well and finally the commercials are just out of hand. Nascar in itself is just a giant ad between cars, tracks etc and its getting harder and harder to know who is in what car but with commercials also thrown in every 3 or 4 minutes and then missing actual things on track happening because we are at a commercial break, ruins any excitement or momentum the race may have going for the viewer.
Too many commercials to justify watching at the bar, too few highlights to follow along at home on TH-cam. And wtf happened to radioactive? I only saw 2 or 3, that was my favorite thing. D-
It's not even worthy of a grade. The good that the re-energized booth brought to the table was quickly dashed by production dropping a colossal shit on the table so hard that it broke. -Richmond missing the restart and refusing to call out either hamlin for jumping or their own producers for missing it, also in richmond cutting to Uncle Joe struggling over the pit wall while Martin walled Larson into 1. -Sonoma xfinity and cup *immediately* cutting to in car cameras while battles are still going on *RIGHT BEHIND THE WINNER!* (Xfinity) or something big went wrong (cup). _Cutting the full screen to fans (mostly kids) in the stands,. -Zooming so far in that you could practically count the hairs on SVG's beard 2 laps in a row. - Just zoomed in *everything*. -The producers making Harvick say Gen Z shit no cap. Like no, you sound like my dad Harv. Just tell the producers "N-O" -Refusing to ditch the cartoons despite universal hatred of them. -Refusing to use the Macs anywhere but the Charlotte studio. -Trucks -Literally no post race anything. -Like 10 cameras at the track max? -Being bipolar as hell on if they want to put effort into pit stop coverage or not, sometimes they show the times, sometimes not, sometimes they show who took tires, sometimes not. -The commercials are so awfully paced. -Too many of the same commercials (I want to dropkick that damn Liberty Mutual baby)
remember a few years ago a random person tweeted that Fox was so shitty that it wasn't odd to them that Camping World had left, to which Marcus Lemonis liked that tweet so Fox was so awful that a sponsor left....a Sponsor, makes you wonder how many other sponsors left becasue of how bad Fox was
Last year bowyer was annoying mostly with his constant repetition of some things. This year the booth did feel fresh and I enjoyed those 3 together in the booth. But yea fox is bad in the other ways
And that sucks, because those of us, and overwhelming majority of us, they can't afford big cable plans, can no longer watch the cup series because USA is an added expense meaning you have to pay extra for that channel. Thank you Xfinity for screwing everything up.
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What grade would you give NASCAR on FOX in 2024?
D- only because the booth guys redeem it from me giving fox an F
D probably
C-
5/10
D-
2:58 “And Bowyer cuts in with a joke”
And then I immediately got a 5 second advertisement on TH-cam. Amazing allegory for NASCAR on FOX this year lol.
I don't think people gave a shit about Race Hub being cut out when we've got Eric Estepp 💀
I will miss Radioactive but haven’t watched a full episode in years
I'm not taking anything away from Eric, but it's quite damning that a professional sports show that was a part of a million dollar network got completely outmatched in weekday coverage by a guy filming in a room in his house. It really drives home how these television networks are still struggling to adapt to the internet
@@jakehobby3477 Radioactive will continue to be produced by NASCAR Productions.
@@jakehobby3477 Same, really hoping radioactive can maybe get moved to like youtube shorts instead of a broadcast and not be gone completely, or at least something similar where we here the radio conversations throughout the race.
@@kkmdew09I'm sure Fox will release Radio active on Kevin Harvick's podcast now who knows.
I have a step sister who use to work for FOX Sports and she believes that they're just in it for the money. For the commercial breaks "Breaks equals revenue."
That's how they make their money, they're not broadcasting this for fun
They’re a business. Money is the entire point.
Ask ur step sister why fox targets children and shoot stupid angles
@@JeffWeselyancreates new fans
@@JeffWeselyan I hate to say this but i'm sure there is a really good reason why they have so many Herbert Cam shots, probably a good idea (on paper) with a horrible execution
but yea, I don't like it either
As a fan of Truex, that clip of him coasting across the finish line yesterday as the crowd was chanting, "Go! Go! Go! Go!" as they erupted in cheers gave me chills
I think Harvick was a great addition to the booth, kinda acted like a bridge between Joy & Bowyer
I’d give it a C- Harvick was the only main positive you can look at this season. I think the booth itself is not the problem. They were all good this year and bowyer was much better. The problem is all the inexcusable things Fox still does that we have beat a dead horse with. Random taking commercials with 8 laps to go. Panning away from good battles on track to focus in on the crowd and taking like 10 seconds to pan over when there was a crash or a controversy on track or pit road. Good thing for Fox is we had a lot of magical moments this season on Fox
D- to an F- only the booth was good. The production and camera crew OML I have absolutely no words🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🙄🙄!
Cut a lot of the commercials as well.
I don't watch many races live any more (mostly just Daytona & Dega), but 2 things stick out to me. The amount of super zoomed in close shots on maybe 1-2 cars when there are 5 cars possibly battling for the same spot happen waaay too often. Also I haven't seen any one else mention this (so it could be a personal issue), but I am not a fan of having 1/4th of the screen blocked by the standings/ticker. There has to be a better way so that we aren't potentially missing action behind an opaque standings graphic.
The volume of missed track events and commercials is bad but my biggest pet peeve is the driver tracker on the left. It stays at 1-20 forever then eventually goes to 11-20, 21-30, 31-last but it flies through them. Plus it seems completely random when it does. Maybe it's a Sonoma thing but the interval between drivers was all over the place.
what i think of is my granddad who got me into racing, he lost his sight in his 60's and still had the race on tv every sunday, everytime the announcers lazily don't describe the action or lay out for 2 minutes i think of him or any other older blind fans trying to enjoy the race
MRN and PRN radio saves me every race weekend. I mute the TV and crank my speakers. Just Google MRN or PRN depending which race and listen to real Nascar commentary.
Old commentators usually had radio experience as well, so they were almost “naturally” better at being descriptive. But that’s a great point.
I’ve turned off races when they start the commercials every 3 mins. I know it’s not a fair comparison but skysports shows the F1 races with no breaks, even their Indycar coverage has their own announcer during breaks on NBC. Even here in Canada it’s the same damn 5 commercials, that have nothing to do with a NASCAR audience.
I have $2000 worth of computer/AV equipment to record live broadcasts and mark the commercial breaks in those broadcasts. Then, when I'm watching the broadcast (time-shifted by a few hours) and a commercial comes on, I can hit a button on the remote and get back to racing. NASCAR broadcasts back in 2000 or so were the impetus for this setup.
On a side note, you'd be surprised how little actual play time there is in an NFL game when they're not standing around waiting for a commercial to complete. You can literally watch one in about an hour, 15 minutes if you're skipping commercial breaks.
I think I hated most about Fox this year was the first couple races they would do Crank It Up during pitstops instead of when the cars are on the track
Race hub literally ends tomorrow, I will try to watch
Agree with pretty much all of the points made in this video.
The Cup broadcasts were still similar to the past few years, although as you said it was good to finally have some consistency and I thought harvick was a good addition. The only thing that got a little bit old was Harvick consistently dunking on Clint. It’s funny from time to time but it got to the point where it almost felt forced.
Xfinity was solid too. I think Adam Alexander is good, the only thing that bugs me about him is he falls in to the trap of where he just gets too goofy and too off track. Joey Logano being in the booth over and over again definitely wasn’t the best either, but I think he’d be okay if he also is able to tone down the silliness
The Truck broadcasts continue to be absolutely nauseating to sit through. The Little/Paraons/Waltrip booth is like the group of kids in school working on a project together that constantly get distracted and can’t go more than 30 seconds straight staying focused. Phil Parsons is good, but Jamie Little falls into the same a category as Vince Welch where they’re really good pit reporters but just don’t have what it takes to be in the booth. And Michael Waltrip… you should make a whole video about him alone and how awful he is. Couple all that in with as you said the terrible camera angles, transitions, checking to see how Daniel Dye’s doing in 17th, kids in the stands, pit reporters asking drivers questions or telling them things that have nothing to do with racing, etc.
I hope Fox can improve in the next TV deal because post-COVID, it’s really been sad to see the decline and lack of care displayed by Fox.
Cup - B
Xfinity - B-
Trucks - F
The best NASCAR broadcasts were the 80's & 90's by ESPN with Bob Jenkins, Benny Parsons & Ned Jarrett in the booth with Dr, Jerry Punch, John Kernan and Bill Weber. That's the formula that needs to be copied today.
1000% yes. Golden age of NASCAR broadcasts and ESPN never got cheesy or corny
Completely agree that Fox treats the broadcast the same was as 20 years ago but things have changed considerably since then with streaming and so many more options available. Too many commercials, coming back from a commercial to show full screen promotion for something, commercials after just a few laps etc. Also coming back from commercials and showing side stuff /fluff stuff instead of showing live racing is infuriating.
Tbh I don’t think anyone watched race hub anymore since the early 2010s on speed when there was actually care put into it. I feel like Steve Byrnes passing really had a part in the nascar on fox decline. I don’t blame fox for cutting race hub because of its lack of care but I do think nascar needs there own streaming service that houses practice and qualifying and the race broadcasts from all 3 series and also put up their own version of race hub on TH-cam or on their own streaming service if it ever happens
Yes, Joy is a step slower in certain aspects, but hell if I make it to his age, I hope I'm half as witty and remember that much of any past. My big thing with Fox wasn't the booth this year, it was the "production" / "director" / "camera" side of things. The booth would call things that the cameras totally missed, or just wouldn't show a reply on; would cut away to the wrong thing, and the post race coverage was complete ass. That isn't the booth, that's higher levels.
I don't watch the races per se, but I do try to listen to them on the radio. And after doing some calculations on The Groovy gauge for Eric Estepp's Channel the races on Fox average at 70.29%, excluding The Clash.
Even the radio does a better job at making it seem more exciting. Nothing against the guys they have in the booth, but in my opinion, I’d rather listen to PRN or MRN on the radio then watching at all on fox
I thought NASCAR on FOX was starting to improve a little bit better after the 2024 Daytona 500. Nope, of course not….
At least Mike Joy and Kevin Harvick were a good duo! Pit road reporting is still good, and… Bowyer wasn’t too bad? Congrats, Clint.
Other than that, everything else is just, ugh….
Worth noting that Leigh Diffey will be taking Rick Allen's place after the Olympic break. Also, Chris Myers is just terrible as well, he has no poker face, he just looks completely uninterested in what he's doing and we all can tell. Very weird that he is still covering Nascar.
Fox cut the 600 short
I'm hoping that the new Cup network coverage that starts next year really ups the competition with Fox, and forces them to up their game.
D- is my absolute most generous grade.
The in booth give grade
Nascar cup series
Mike joy C
Kevin Harvick C-
Clint Bowyer B
Nascar xfinity series
Adam Alexander F
Rotation of drivers and crew chiefs. F
Nascar Craftsman Truck Series
Booth announcers
Adam Alexander (rotating play-by-play) F
Jamie Little (rotating play-by-play) F
Phil Parsons (color commentator) A
Michael Waltrip (color commentator) D
Rotation of drivers and crew chiefs
F
Mike Joy, Dale Jr, Clint Bowyer. Top Tier booth.
The booth is great again. Pit reporters are great. The production and big event feel is lacking though. Watch NBC and it's taken more seriously.
Except it isn't taken seriously on NBC they got more of the same problems.
I think even ESPN and their ladder part of the years where they didn’t even care about NASCAR did a better job than Fox did the past few years especially this year which was terrible.
Only the commentary was better but thats about it.
I think Fox missed more crashes than they actually got on camera in all series
It just gets worse as the years go by
What if Larry Mac and Darrell Waltrip stayed in the Fox booth with Mike Joy to this day?
A lot of people criticize walltrip, but honestly, when he left, there was a gap that needed to be filled. That wasn’t really filled correctly, although Jeff was a good addition, like I think they still miss Darrell to this day, he just brought so much enthusiasm and it was never dry. As for Larry, he’s basically in every race but only for strategy it would’ve been cool to see him stay in the booth rather than being in a side booth.
That wouldn't be great because it would still be an unevolved booth. As much as I love DW, it was clear that it was time for him to go. He had spent so many years out of the seat, and being in his seventies meant he had virtually no relatability to modern racing. The sport passed him by. As a result, he had to resort to relying on his goofiness, which just made him look like a cooky old man. DW's prime was a perfect mix of his racing coverage and goofiness, and that prime was long gone in 2019. With all that said, however, it is also apparent that Fox has never filled the void DW left behind, and it honestly feels like he was the soul of their coverage. It's no wonder that Fox's coverage feels so lifeless
DW was getting too silly by the time gen 6 came around. DW was great during the gen4 and gen 5 days, DW having driven gen 4 cars and being able to somewhat relate to gen 5, bur by 2013 he was getting stale.
I think the booth is not the problem when it comes to Fox as they did a decent job. The biggest issue with Fox is the production quality which is absolutely terrible. I agree with Iceberg that Fox's coverage has not evolved at all very similar to how ESPN covered Indycar during the final decade they had the rights. Speaking of Indycar, I really hope that Fox does not get the rights to Indycar because they would treat Indycar even worse than NASCAR which Indycar does not need (they already have enough problems as it is like Honda threatening to leave after 2026). Indycar needs to renew their deal with NBC or go to the CW so that every race is free on over the air TV & more fans can watch.
As an Indycar fan also today wasn't good news sounds like they are officially going to Fox starting in 2025
I liked the passionate poet segment
This is my first year watching nascar and I really enjoyed Joy, Boyer, and Harvick
I think Nascar should sellout to one of the major streaming platforms like Peacock or Netflix. There are so many commercials during green flags and then you add cautions onto that and it’s hard. Going to commercial under green is the one thing I can’t wrap my head around.
They already sold one package to Amazon next year. I agree for the most part except a large part of their fans are older so if you completely eliminate cable TV, that’s gonna kill a lot of viewership. Since 95% of people who are older who make up the majority number of people watching, only have cable TV. So it could be rough for a year or two. They need to get younger people more interested in the sport it’s happening, but they still have older people who are majority watching compared to younger audience
NASCAR needs to be like TH-cam turn the microphone off on the announcers, and give us the race during commercials
It took Joy, MacReynolds, and DW 1 race to become amazing.
It'll take 1-2 years to make Joy, Harvick, and Bowyer to be great.
Mike Joy is the GOAT. I love the chemistry between he, Clint, Kevin & Larry. They done a great job
FOX is treating NASCAR more like an entertainment property more than an actual racing series. I don't know what Phelps and company still see in this network when it's clear as day that FOX doesn't give two shits about the sport. They dropped NASCAR Race Hub and less races are now going to be broadcast on the primary network with cable taking the majority of that slice, not to mention that, in my opinion, I fully believe the directors are groomers since they love the kids so much, it's actually disgusting and uncomfortable to watch.
I hope that the Prime streaming portion of the schedule will completely blow FOX out of the water. I really hope they do.
Wtf liking kids makes you a groomer now?? Making accusations is slander if you don't have evidence....shut up
@@truckercowboyed2638 looks like "in my opinion" went over your head. 🤷♂️
i feel like this is true, however no evidence to prove it has come out yet
@@frlracing It's Fox and Rupert Murdoch is known to be on that list so.
You guys are hilarious, just wait till you find out who owns USA. Another person that has also been on Epstein's island, but hey apparently you guys know best right?
Here’s an idea for a video to do
What’s NASCAR on FOX gonna look like next year? BECAUSE in 2025 FOX is taking over coverage of the INDYCAR series, including the Indianapolis 500 & all the races will be on FOX, not their cable networks like FS1
How many NASCAR races are getting sacrificed to the FOX cable networks & how many races are gonna shown on the regular FOX channel?
Gonna be really interesting next year with FOX’s racing coverage; both NASCAR & INDYCAR
I really enjoyed Kevin Harvick in the booth. Having someone fresh out of the sport in the booth really provided more prospective than previous years.
As for the Xfinty and Truck side, Its also annoying when they shove their talent into a sound stage in Charlotte instead of sending them to the tracks. And for trucks, its only going to get worse as its going to be 3 people in a booth in charlotte just about every race.
Another thing I have noticed is Fox has been getting REALLY lazy with their timing and scoring pylon. If the cup series isnt there, or road courses for stand alone trucks/xfinity, they just set up something at the start finish line. Meaning we only see where everyone truly is at the start finish line. And that is the only time we can see how close someone is to the leader. Yea we have eyes but I like numbers. And its annoying when we go from cup having decent timing scoring, to trucks where it doesnt do anything until the line.
In general, its just broke. Sonoma had so many issues when they would get to turns 8-11 where cars would set off randomly and cause the pylon to switch drivers up 20 positions until the whole field cleared those timing lines.
It just seems as if they got to a point, but because they are going to try to get Indycar races, they decided to just stop improving the fox broadcast. Everything has been the same since 2020. And its stale after 4 years of the same broadcast with nothing new but what mini segments you cover the racing action with.
And to be directly fair. I don't know about other countries, but I saw few different countries translations, and I can tell you that in most countries we see race in full length without commercials at all. So it doesn't affect international viewers at all
What countries? Might need to hit up the VPN lol
@@extragoogleaccount6061 ask me and I'll give you some links 😉
Russia(pirated of course, but before it ran without ads on TV), Saudi Arabia, Baltic countries. To name a few. I think used to even Canadian translation was without ads.
ESPN's (or whoever's) coverage of F1 is premier. NBCs coverage of Indycar is really good too.
ESPN only just plays the sky sports broadcast for f1 so they don't even do them
Agreed on both, copy that FOX!
They need to put Jamie McMurray in the booth. I thought he was really good for the races He was in last year.
Does NASCAR still have victory lane coverage???
Got that right. I stopped watching Nascar because of the commercials. Even baseball holds their commercials breaks to inning change, pitcher change, timeouts. Fox should take pointers from the MLB. Oh wait, they also host the MLB playoffs... They know how to show sports events, so why does Nascar get the short end... huh, fox. Goodbye, don't let the door .........on your way out.
NASCAR gets the short end because they like Baseball more and Football more than NASCAR.
When it comes to a great broadcast, remember the great finishes from years ago? You remember what the announcers were saying as it happened, we had two count them two of the greatest finishes in Nascar history this year and the booth sounded so anti climactic during those. It’s a real shame man
I wish someone could explain why Fox does a “Crank it up!” for pit stops. 🙄
Makes less sense with only one big nut instead of 5 lugnuts.
Aw like the truck broadcast, Jamie little always needed more time, Jamie Howe is great too
Probably weakest moments this season in Xfinity (inviting truck drivers to the booth) and in Cup (long green flag runs and then struggling to fill the air, that one time clint was out of it for half a race and harvick joked about it, vegas was it). Xfinity was probably my favorite of their briadcast, Blaney (needs to be there more), Logano (needs to be permanent), and Kesselowski are my dream team, they're great.
Someone should add up the total amount of dead air where there's just awkward silence on their broadcast throughout Fox's tenure
I really loved the booth this year and thought that Joy, Harvick, and Boyer absolutely saved the broadcast to a watchable point every week despite the production. I would give all 3 of them an A but I also do admit it is hard for me to not enjoy Mike Joy and we all want more personality from the drivers so I don't mind the Harvick/Bowyer dynamic between them. Yes it was a little too far once or twice, and credit to if I remember correctly Joy grabbing the reigns of the conversation in those moments and pulling us back to the race and on topic without much awkward dead air, I enjoyed the Harvick word of the day because that is just up my nerdy alley, and I honestly have nothing negative to say about the booth because as mentioned Harvick/Bowyer have about 9 months or so to work on their chemistry.
With that said, on to production, I think this is arguably the worst job a production team has done to cover Nascar races, by any broadcasting group, not just FOX, ever, or at least since I have been watching since the early 2000's. As mentioned the amount of times we were getting told about something by Harvick or Bowyer, only to never see it live, or just a replay after the fact, and I felt like they just didn't show the right cars or battle going on almost all of the time of every race, and I have been watching long enough that I don't think it is the camera men and women who are to blame, we have seen time and time again over the years that Nascar camera operators are more than capable of getting at least a viewable angle of just about anything, so it to me must be whoever is choosing which camera to show, and whoever is telling these camera operators to look at a Kyle Larson shirt in the crowd every 10 laps, or follow around a car on its own lap a few laps down, etc.
It was so bad that I found myself in the last 2 races at Sonoma and Gateway, through I would say the first half to maybe even 2/3 of the race doing something else while it was on the TV, like playing a video game, and just listening to the 3 in the booth because that is just about the same if not does a better job than watching it only to not see what was going on, and that is the first time I have ever really gotten to that point, outside of maybe a few minutes on my phone here and there and talking with others that I am watching it with, A cup race on the TV prior to the last few weeks has always had my undivided attention.
Really disappointed in everyone involved behind the cameras outside of the actual camera operators themselves just doing what they are told.
The booth was solid, production was bad. Yeah they either took too long to cut to where something was happening, if they even cut at all. And the crowd zoom ins were too frequent to the point where it started to become weird.
Regarding the commercials they were far too frequent and they were usually the same block of commercials too. Also really got sick of seeing the Fox Nation commercials. (And yes I would have the same reaction if NBC loaded their commercials with MSNBC ads).
My rating for FOX this year, 4/10.
Credit where it's due, the booth were generally good, and the new pit-road segments where they actually highlight the members of pit-crews was a really good addition to the broadcast, but that's where the compliments end. Production overall was just bad, camera work was beyond a joke and the commercials seemed louder and more frequent.
You remember all those things? I don't even remember what was in last race in the booth. Maybe it's not a problem with commentary but with fans.
My grade for each series on Fox: Cup C+, other two are F's, because I can't stand Alexander(and one or two guest Cup drivers), much have rather preferred like back in early 2000's(but with Joy, Harvick, Bowyer). As for Trucks, I'm surprised that Fox still continues after this year. Thought the series would go somewhere else.
The races themselves get a B. Broadcasts F. I thought Sonoma was the worst cup broadcast of year.
Races fell off a bit, especially compared to 22 and 23. But I guess it most likely was hypeflated
It doesn’t matter how good the booth get compared to the week before the production will always be terrible. Whether it’s the zoomed in camera angles or just completely missing something super important like a fight or a crash or something that the average viewer would really need to see. It’s like they don’t even care. They cut off the second the race most of the time. The replays like yesterday it even froze when they tried to show a crash. Like I thought there was something wrong with my TV, but I found out it was just crappy fox production. Like get your crap, right. All they do is spend time on Fox News trying to make that right, but they can’t focus on anything else
“Fox would’ve missed the second plane”
-TwistedToe
Am I the only one who loves Clint and Kevin talking mad shit to each other in the booth?
outside of commercial revenue that Fox can bring in during their portion of the schedule I really wonder why Fox re-upped when it's not hard to tell they lost interest in Nascar over the last few years. On the booth Joy and Harvick were great and if I have to I can put up with Bowyer but whenever Joy retires I say you move Harvick to Joy's position keep Bowyer then for enthusiasm but bring in a a driver/ crew chief who can do the technical break downs like Larry Mac could do from the booth.
10:43 I highly agree with you.
Pulling someone from a lower series.....wonder who you might be getting at there :D
F. Total failure. And good riddance to Fox Sports
Yeah, when Clint and Kevin make comments about the lack of direction a fair amount while live. Maybe Clint should be the director, because whoever is current doing the job doesn't care.
The FOX director literally calls us “haters”
Yeah, that's been going around lately... Kathleen Kennedy blames Star Wars for her failures. All so many others now blame others for not seeing their vision.
My grade pretty much tracks with yours, although I’m a little more critical of Bowyer. His hee-haw-yee-haw carnival barking, cliche spouting is way past old. He seems to want to come off as the smartest guy on the broadcast when most of the time he comes off as the opposite. I like Harvick’s keeping Bowyer’s ego in check, especially when he needles him about not having driven the Next Gen car.
One omission is Mikey’s cringey grid walks. It seems like most of the time the drivers look at him like he’s a crazy guy looking for his meds.
WELL I MEAN, The Camera problem is also a Thing on FORMULA 1
I watch the races live. I have my Playstation running and switch to that during commercial. WAY to many commercials. They appear to not cover Chase Elliott on purpose most of the time. I'm sure the haters are gonna hate. But he is the most popular driver. When Dale Jr was racing he was covered endlessly. Whoever is calling out what cameras to use and when is obviously on crack. Clint Boyer and the way he says Toyota drives me insane. Towyota...
Now that we've voiced our opinions on FOX's coverage of NASCAR, what does FOX say?
If it was possible, I'd give Fox a F-
They are just calling it in at this point. When the booth calls out action and the cameras are nowhere near it... and on top of that Bowyer CALLING THEM OUT... you prove you just DGAF.
Ok. I Give NASCAR On FOX, A E.
But, The Budweiser Shootout At DAYTONA, Needs To Be Broadcasted, Along With DAYTONA 500 Qualifying, As Well As Speedweeks, And As Well As The DAYTONA 500, Races, From DAYTONA In February, The 1st Races, To Sonoma In June, ALL On NBC, And As For The Truck Series, Have Adam Alexander, In The Booth, For The NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series, Full-Time, And Replace Michael Waltrip, For Martin Truex Jr.
I doubt they replace Mike with someone that is as knowledgeable as Mike is. Real shame because I love that part about Mike. I think it’s a great spot for Fox
Probably either Jamie Little or somebody fresh out of broadcasting school or whatever they call it...Adam Alexander would be a great replacement.
NBC Olympic coming up what we get like 6-7 races. Basically every race till the end I can actually watch
D+ for FOX Sports this year while they tried some new things like showing us driver pit crews their common issues bleed through and its really noticable like how they only got 1 angle of Corey LaJoie flipping at Talladega or had a battle for the lead at Gateway and showed a fan for a split second and its evident that commentators and pit reporters are the ones who actually care about the broadcast.
What they need to do or get rid of next year:
-Jamie Little needs to be kept on pit road she's not cut out to be a commentator my ears bleed everytime she tries to make something sound exciting or when she butchers a call
-Michael Waltrip is better doing gridwalk all I hear from him is something about Daniel Dye and how he's a great kid when the first thing that comes to my mind about him is when he kicked someone in the balls
-More crank it up segments and it should mostly be on the racetrack I appreciate FOX for switching it up and having it on pit road sometimes but its more enjoyable on the racetrack
-Clint Bowyer needs to at least not crack jokes all the time when its not necessary bc he makes being funny his entire personality
-The camera crews actually need to be watching the track I don't mind them showing kids or fans when its not taking away from something interesting on the racetrack
-Commercials need to seriously be cut down to where they're not every 10 laps bc I hate the commercials so much that I watch the international feed bc it goes uninterrupted for free
-Cartoon driver portraits need to go most of them just look weird or straight up bad and I'd rather see real driver pictures from production day that they do in January rather than the ugly comic drawings
-Highlighting driver pit crews was something that was a nice touch this year and should come back
-I can understand not having enough time in the TV window for some interviews but I want to hear more drivers instead of just the winner and 2nd place finisher
my nascar schedule for 2025 is this
1 Daytona
2 Sonoma
3 las Vegas
4 Phoenix
5 Circuit of Americans
6 Atlanta
7 Richmond
8 martinsville
9 Texas
10 Talladega
11 Bristol
12 Kansas
13 darlington
14 all star race North Wilkesboro
15 Charlotte
16 Gateway
17 Iowa
18 Dover
19 Indianapolis
20 Pocono
21 Michigan
22 walking Glenn
23 streets of Chicago
24 Atlanta
25 Daytona regular season finale
26 darlington
27 Kansas
28 Bristol
29 Michigan
30 Talladega
31 Charlotte Orval
32 Las Vegas
33 homestead Miami
34 martinsville
36 Phoenix
I turn the sound off and play mrn or prn. Makes it so much better
I like the booth just fine. Everything else is subpar.
Yeah, I agree. I kind of feel bad for the guys in the booth. You can tell they know we are frustrated, I'm sure they are, too, having to keep covering Fox's ass. Even just at Sonoma, they showed a replay and it didn't work and Mike had to apologize and say they'll get that replay for us soon. Always having to cover up Fox's mistakes and issues.
Production, camera angles and commercials. ironically three commercials as I tried to watch this video. But in all seriousness really bothered me to hear, usually Mike Joy, yelling about a spin or a wreck or a non wreck, that we had no clue about until later. Too much important stuff missed by what I assume is the bad camera angles but that may go back to production as well and finally the commercials are just out of hand. Nascar in itself is just a giant ad between cars, tracks etc and its getting harder and harder to know who is in what car but with commercials also thrown in every 3 or 4 minutes and then missing actual things on track happening because we are at a commercial break, ruins any excitement or momentum the race may have going for the viewer.
Too many commercials to justify watching at the bar, too few highlights to follow along at home on TH-cam. And wtf happened to radioactive? I only saw 2 or 3, that was my favorite thing. D-
It's not even worthy of a grade. The good that the re-energized booth brought to the table was quickly dashed by production dropping a colossal shit on the table so hard that it broke.
-Richmond missing the restart and refusing to call out either hamlin for jumping or their own producers for missing it, also in richmond cutting to Uncle Joe struggling over the pit wall while Martin walled Larson into 1.
-Sonoma xfinity and cup *immediately* cutting to in car cameras while battles are still going on *RIGHT BEHIND THE WINNER!* (Xfinity) or something big went wrong (cup).
_Cutting the full screen to fans (mostly kids) in the stands,.
-Zooming so far in that you could practically count the hairs on SVG's beard 2 laps in a row.
- Just zoomed in *everything*.
-The producers making Harvick say Gen Z shit no cap. Like no, you sound like my dad Harv. Just tell the producers "N-O"
-Refusing to ditch the cartoons despite universal hatred of them.
-Refusing to use the Macs anywhere but the Charlotte studio.
-Trucks
-Literally no post race anything.
-Like 10 cameras at the track max?
-Being bipolar as hell on if they want to put effort into pit stop coverage or not, sometimes they show the times, sometimes not, sometimes they show who took tires, sometimes not.
-The commercials are so awfully paced.
-Too many of the same commercials (I want to dropkick that damn Liberty Mutual baby)
Thank the good lord nbc is back
remember a few years ago a random person tweeted that Fox was so shitty that it wasn't odd to them that Camping World had left, to which Marcus Lemonis liked that tweet
so Fox was so awful that a sponsor left....a Sponsor, makes you wonder how many other sponsors left becasue of how bad Fox was
Considering a lot sponsorship is sold based on TV, I wouldn't doubt that there have been some who've left because of Fox
I had a trial for an hour or so on fox sports and I used it to watch some of the Daytona 500 and 70% of what I saw was adds and not good ones 😢
If I have one Thing I would Change in 2025, use the Split Screen More.
Not just "more", more like every green flag run. Only cautions and red flags need to be full screen ads.
I think Clint bowyer is better off as a pit reporter than being in the booth
if fox loses larry and mike, they may as well just get lost. nothing else needs to be said.
If Mike Joy retires, I guess you could say that Harvick is going to "Carry that Weight" if you know what I mean 🤠🎇
Fox sucked. I’m just returning as a viewer since 2006, I was really disappointed in the production quality
Man NBC is gonna be a great feeling for you
Can we just have NBC cover NASCAR for the entire season next year please we'll let Fox have the truck races instead.F+
Did anyone see that fox is now going to cover Indy car next season?
Let me see what I am preparing my oven…ooooooo pizza and HOT FRESH F! F for Fox.
NASCAR on FOX taking notes from monster jam
:CHILDREN CHILDREN CHILDREN CHILDREN!!!!!!!
I love Mike. Idc I love Mike always have.
I like to say "typical fox, gives you real news but lacks context"
That Daytona 500 this year really put a bad noise in my mouth.
Last year bowyer was annoying mostly with his constant repetition of some things. This year the booth did feel fresh and I enjoyed those 3 together in the booth.
But yea fox is bad in the other ways
The only person that irritated me was Shannon Spake
The booth for cup is good and needs to stay imo. But ya the production is not good at all. I’d give it a C+
And that sucks, because those of us, and overwhelming majority of us, they can't afford big cable plans, can no longer watch the cup series because USA is an added expense meaning you have to pay extra for that channel. Thank you Xfinity for screwing everything up.
The production is so bad i just wait till the end of the year and read the headline who was the champion
The fall of Fox and even NBC does this and doesn’t make them any better started when they stopped doing victory lane interviews