*Before watching this:* I love the sound of the ocean. *After watching this:* I love the sound of magnetic tape being swished around in a tub of water.
I mean as a fine art and photography degree holder I can tell you that all recording methods, visual and audio, are fake, even when they aren’t, it’s clever tricks of technology, engineering, physics, sometimes even chemistry, etc, if any of it were in fact real then artists, photographers, camera people and sound recordists would be actual magicians with real-life whiz-bang D&D magic, which we’re not, we’re more akin to the guy with the rabbit in his hat at the party, it’s tricks to achieve a desired effect, and it is so easy to fake even back in the 19th-century it was so easy to fake if you knew how
Even as a kid, if you thought Santa was real then you weren’t that bright. Sussed that at 4 years old. A man in a fake beard you only see in malls etc and never delivering presents on sleigh pulled by reindeer isn’t going to fool anyone with their own mind. You must’ve never questioned as a kid. Guess what else isn’t real? MONEY!
@@kishascape Why be so rude? It takes less effort to not comment at all than to try to insult others. It’s not obvious. I agree it ruins some of the magic of documentaries.
Just so everyone knows, Macro lenses aren't for long distances (1:13). Telephoto lenses are for long distance and macro lenses are for extremely close-up. Some macro lenses can still be used to shoot a distant subject, but not typically with a large amount of 'zoom'. A pretty blatant mistake by Insider, but everything else in the video and the world of foley is accurate.
"the Northern lights don't make a sound but when you see this clip you don't think about it" Literally no one thinks that the cymbal noises are made by the lights...
Also you don't need "amazing HD cameras" for "timelapse technology"(?). Gosh, these journalists sometimes really just make facts up like these foley artists, don't they? Capturing fewer frames per second or faster playback isn't complicated high tech...
This video is so badly mixed. For a video whose purpose is to highlight sounds, there is hardly any scene where they actually let us listen to the sound. Reduce your talk lady!!!
Though the work and effort of the sound artist are remarkable I was always annoyed by the super-fake sounds of those documentaries. It feels like the directors feel the obligation of making this all super dramatic and Hollywood-like. I agree that there are situations that call for fake or supplementary sounds, but still- it's fine if we don't hear the footsteps of a spider. We will live. Just give us the buzzing of a passing fly or the sound of the forest surrounding the shooting, that's enough.
Absolutely. I discovered that documentary sounds are fake when i heard them use a child’s cooing noise in that old documentary about the wire vs cloth mother experiment with baby monkies
Yeah it always annoyed and weirded me out. Though I do appreciate the sound design in its own right, the shroom growing timelapses and weird plants I kinda like tho.
Music also portrays emotion extremely well, like the northern lights scene. Forest sounds + atmospheric music would be way better than faux spidey steps
Honestly if I heard that cymbal sliding while watching the aurora borealis, I would instantly question it. Aswell as a slinky going "Bing Bing Bing Bing Bing bing" would never convince me of the sound of a streamline web shooting.
Funny I was always asking myself how they record such tiny sounds. I came to the conclusion that they have amazing microphones, or they fake the Sounds. Was tending to the microphones.
I have to say, the dumb unnatural sounds dubbed onto nature docs in the last couple of decades are really obtrusive to me - they're so obviously faked! We used to have subtle music, timed to the elements of the scene to bring us into the footage, now they're treating their documentaries like a fiction piece. Hate it. Still, well done on making such clever sounds, and thanks for pointing out to everyone that they're fake!
For a video about sound the ladys voice is at least 2x as loud as everything else in the video. Aside from that though it's nice. Interesting subject. What a cool job that guys got.
Anyone who watched a show about insects fighting each other understand this. The fights were all staged in captivity and they used pig noises for the insects. It was so obvious it hurt.
I lived five hundred miles north of the Arctic circle for a number of years. The nor lysen make a very specific sound. Remove the cellophane from a cigarette package and gently twist it.
Video:How Sounds are Made for Nature Documentaries Me, watching the video in 2 am during the midnight in mute 'cause I' m too lazy to stand and get my earphones: *interesting.*
I hate this trend in modern nature documentaries. With older docs you don't get all these annoying added sfx which pull you out of immersion. In reality there's a lot of environmental noise and with insects you only really hear their wings vibrating. I don't mind the exaggerated real noises or cleaning up environmental noise. It's when you hear insects chewing and so forth that it gets annoying.
It's just to enhance the experience of watching it!🙂. Humans are always using sensory for stimulation. So I guess they wanted us to have both(sound and sight)
Greetings from Iceland! I want to correct what you said in the beginning: You CAN hear northern lights on rare occassions. I was once lucky enough to experience those sounds here in Iceland.
So... the reason you watch a nature documentary is to get an artistic interpretation of nature. That's just wrong. I'm an audiophile, so practically all modern shows drive me crazy as EVERYTHING sounds fake. Uncanny valley applies to sound design, too. The reason I love 80's synthesizers is because they don't pretend to sound like real instruments. 90's synths all tried to mimic real instruments and they sounded "wrong".
I don’t like a lot of modern electronic drum kit sounds (specifically in dance music) for that reason! It just sounds like muted clicks and I don’t understand the point of it.
Wait obviously not all sounds would be recorded for the insects or animal's. For example a lions roar is legit while the music is actually just music like wtf common sense. Webs don't have sounds nor does the aurora at the northern hemisphere. It's just background music and I've never really noticed the music if I'm honest😂😂
Once you visualize some BBC sound designer with a boom mic splashing water about in his bath tub it's pretty hard to unsee it. The only silver lining is that you now get the opportunity to rain on everyone else's parade when they happen to be watching a nature doc.
Have to admit I have hated added sounds to nature documentaries for years. If you happen to shoot the real sound. Cool. If not. Music and narration please.
Very interesting to learn about this kind of work, but why not consult an audio expert during the production of the video? It's frustrating not to hear the final sounds as used in the docs, and only the raw and unconvincing Foley. And why the whimsical music throughout the whole thing?
I knew it 😤 I remember having an argument with my parents about the sounds in nature documentaries when I was a kid because I was insistent that they couldn't capture such tiny sounds from so far away and I refused to believe they were up close and personal while a lion was munching on a zebra carcass. Eventually they convinced me I was wrong and now I'm mad again 😂 I know they probably just wanted me to shut up and watch the documentary but they're the ones who told me I was wrong when they didn't know what they were talking about 💅
Yass and this is why Foley and Sound Editing getrs awards. I get to do Foley very rarely but love the creativity of it. But i NEVER want to hear anyones' eye opening again 😂 Hardest thing to foley… being inside a sea of hops in a vat 😂
YOU GOT MACRO LENSES 100% WRONG. Macro lenses are used for shooting very close to an object (inches or fractions of an inch). ZOOM LENSES are for shooting objects which are far away.
@@Wildridefilms -Eh, thank you for that. I must have been tired. However, both can be used. I have a 70 - 300mm lens that I got fantastic footage of a 17 year cicada hatching with. Looks like National Geographic footage.
More like completely making it up, instead of mimic. I'm glad that blinking is completely silent - just imagine your eyes making that sound everytime you blink.
Ever since I was a kid I hated how much repetitive fake noises documentaries had. I'd especially have problems with putting in sounds that physically can't happen. Like, I'm fine with faking the noises made due to not being able to record the natural ones, but can we stop with the reptiles hissing every time they move and horses making the same three sounds when they're running and standing on the hind legs?
Such skill. Marvellous! Foley-enhanced drama much preferred to the ludicrous 40-piece metropolitan orchestra that used to saturate earlier Attenborough documentaries! Occasionally a bit of over-the-top is okay: that huge drumbeat&rumble dubbed onto the surfacing of a sharp-toothed swamp creature had my girlfriend fall off the sofa. Did I laugh!
*Before watching this:* I love the sound of the ocean.
*After watching this:* I love the sound of magnetic tape being swished around in a tub of water.
I mean as a fine art and photography degree holder I can tell you that all recording methods, visual and audio, are fake, even when they aren’t, it’s clever tricks of technology, engineering, physics, sometimes even chemistry, etc, if any of it were in fact real then artists, photographers, camera people and sound recordists would be actual magicians with real-life whiz-bang D&D magic, which we’re not, we’re more akin to the guy with the rabbit in his hat at the party, it’s tricks to achieve a desired effect, and it is so easy to fake even back in the 19th-century it was so easy to fake if you knew how
But it’s still water, just not in an ocean.
Annoying how they play stupid music over it so we can't really hear the sound effects they're referring to.
@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ I couldn't understand a thing you just said.
@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ No, it's me too.
Tf
That's because you can basically 'steal' their sfx
In other words, a perfect replica of actual documentaries.
I'm feeling like a kid that's just learned Santa doesn't exist 😥 They are probably the most underrated workers in entrainement industry!!
You know that they do the same in movies and tv because the mics are meant for actors lines not the random shit in the scene
@@thewhitewolf58 I knew for movies/tv shows. Just that I didn't about documentaries also 😉
I guess being a Sound Effect designer is actually kinda fun.
Yeah he does
Even as a kid, if you thought Santa was real then you weren’t that bright. Sussed that at 4 years old. A man in a fake beard you only see in malls etc and never delivering presents on sleigh pulled by reindeer isn’t going to fool anyone with their own mind. You must’ve never questioned as a kid.
Guess what else isn’t real? MONEY!
The sounds were fake all along
But this mans job is quite unique
For some reason this is heartbreaking. Okay, the northern lights and flowers i get it!..
BUT the underwater shots?? I've been lied in my whole life???
It’s pretty obvious to anyone with a grain of a sense.
@@kishascape Why be so rude? It takes less effort to not comment at all than to try to insult others. It’s not obvious. I agree it ruins some of the magic of documentaries.
@@AB-ft7ng It definitely is obvious if you pay attention. Cope.
You didn't figure this out by yourself? Honestly embarrassing
everything is a lie I want a brain refund
A BRAIN REFUND OMG mood
Me too lol I’m so upset lol
Unfortunately we couldn’t find one
Here you go a handgun you know what to do
Disney too
This is why I have trust issues
lmaooo😭
Just so everyone knows, Macro lenses aren't for long distances (1:13). Telephoto lenses are for long distance and macro lenses are for extremely close-up. Some macro lenses can still be used to shoot a distant subject, but not typically with a large amount of 'zoom'. A pretty blatant mistake by Insider, but everything else in the video and the world of foley is accurate.
Stupid commentator scripting for sure.
I was coming down to the comments to say exactly this
Wow, I feel cheated… 😐
Same 😔
😶
"the Northern lights don't make a sound but when you see this clip you don't think about it"
Literally no one thinks that the cymbal noises are made by the lights...
My thoughts exactly
Macro lenses are actually used for filming something really close.
Omg 😳 No way
I was about to say
Thx someone noted
I found your comment after making my own. Yes, I cringed too.
I caught that. The word they wanted is "telephoto." Insider needs better editors/fact-checkers.
Big respect to foley artists. Without them, every movies/shows we watch are complete bland.
Yeah! They are really creative on providing those sounds
Nah idk, they fake everything
@@unbanned6175 Try putting a mic right beside a lion hunting a buffalo then.
Right? Hope it's a high-paying profession. They deserve it.
Truer one could say
I feel like my whole life’s been a lie...
Surely you'd use a telephoto lens for shooting across a valley? I thought macro lenses were for things like extreme close ups on bugs and stuff.
yup.
Yeah they got that wrong lol
Finally someone in the comments who noticed xP
Also you don't need "amazing HD cameras" for "timelapse technology"(?).
Gosh, these journalists sometimes really just make facts up like these foley artists, don't they?
Capturing fewer frames per second or faster playback isn't complicated high tech...
@@Rainquack I do think that Movie Insiders are pretty good, bit this was pretty awful...
That audio at the beginning for the northern lights was stupid af
I don't think anyone ever really believed that one like the underwater stuff. I always thought of it as more of a soundtrack or embellishment
The creativity and dedication this man has omg...thank you for making nature documentaries so mesmerising :””)
You're mistaking macro for telephoto at 1:14
This video is so badly mixed. For a video whose purpose is to highlight sounds, there is hardly any scene where they actually let us listen to the sound. Reduce your talk lady!!!
I just said the same thing! Completely agree! She is at least 2x as loud as everything else in the video
Same sane man
She's the narrator, not the writer or director or whoever had more input in the final product. Chill out.
I never got to hear the final sound of an aurora. It didn’t sound like something I’d hear in a documentary.
Though the work and effort of the sound artist are remarkable I was always annoyed by the super-fake sounds of those documentaries. It feels like the directors feel the obligation of making this all super dramatic and Hollywood-like. I agree that there are situations that call for fake or supplementary sounds, but still- it's fine if we don't hear the footsteps of a spider. We will live. Just give us the buzzing of a passing fly or the sound of the forest surrounding the shooting, that's enough.
Absolutely. I discovered that documentary sounds are fake when i heard them use a child’s cooing noise in that old documentary about the wire vs cloth mother experiment with baby monkies
Yeah it always annoyed and weirded me out. Though I do appreciate the sound design in its own right, the shroom growing timelapses and weird plants I kinda like tho.
Music also portrays emotion extremely well, like the northern lights scene. Forest sounds + atmospheric music would be way better than faux spidey steps
Honestly if I heard that cymbal sliding while watching the aurora borealis, I would instantly question it. Aswell as a slinky going "Bing Bing Bing Bing Bing bing" would never convince me of the sound of a streamline web shooting.
I don’t think it’s supposed to convince you, most rational adults understand air doesn’t make metallic sounds..
I think the aurora sound is like background music. You know it's not the real sound.
I feel like after this video there´s no going back...from now on you´ll always hear magnetic tape in everything
Imagine they accidentally placed the unedited where in the camera men are heard farting, chatting, eating snacks, cursing and whatever stuff 🤣
O/-/O
I want to sniff their farts 🙄
Sexist
@@deletedchannel3633 It's just what they are normally referred to
Next video: the animals used in nature documentaries are people in furry suits.
1:14 a macro lens is not for shooting something across a valley, that's a telephoto.
Severus Snape as Foley artist
OMFG NO- 😭😭😭😭
Funny
I was always asking myself how they record such tiny sounds. I came to the conclusion that they have amazing microphones, or they fake the Sounds.
Was tending to the microphones.
My life has been a lie
I have to say, the dumb unnatural sounds dubbed onto nature docs in the last couple of decades are really obtrusive to me - they're so obviously faked!
We used to have subtle music, timed to the elements of the scene to bring us into the footage, now they're treating their documentaries like a fiction piece. Hate it.
Still, well done on making such clever sounds, and thanks for pointing out to everyone that they're fake!
For a video about sound the ladys voice is at least 2x as loud as everything else in the video. Aside from that though it's nice. Interesting subject. What a cool job that guys got.
I thought they used super powerful microphones
Anyone who watched a show about insects fighting each other understand this. The fights were all staged in captivity and they used pig noises for the insects. It was so obvious it hurt.
That whale sound created by them at 7:28 sounded more like my toilet flush😂😂
Takes a certain type of genius to make sounds post production
I lived five hundred miles north of the Arctic circle for a number of years. The nor lysen make a very specific sound. Remove the cellophane from a cigarette package and gently twist it.
7:07 for a second i thought this was tony stark 😂
Oml same 💀😂
It is
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Video:How Sounds are Made for Nature Documentaries
Me, watching the video in 2 am during the midnight in mute 'cause I' m too lazy to stand and get my earphones: *interesting.*
Aurora Borealis? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized ENTIRELY within your kitchen..?
Yes!
@@danislug May I see it?
@@BrianBBBB Uhhh, *no*
Seymour! The house is on fire!
@@josephstalin364 no mother, it’s just the northern lights
For the longest time I thought folly artists where just part of an SNL skit. It took me a while to realize this was serious.
How come you make a sound of something you never heard?
I hate this trend in modern nature documentaries. With older docs you don't get all these annoying added sfx which pull you out of immersion. In reality there's a lot of environmental noise and with insects you only really hear their wings vibrating. I don't mind the exaggerated real noises or cleaning up environmental noise. It's when you hear insects chewing and so forth that it gets annoying.
What a very strange sound to play for northern lights.
I literally thought that the documentary production uses high end and really expensive equipments to capture these shots and sounds. Lol.
1:15 thats exactly how a macro lens works..
When you want to do ASMR but you have a degree in nature
y'all really thought northern lights make noises?
This just spoiled everything. Cause I had absolutely loved Our Planet.
It's just to enhance the experience of watching it!🙂. Humans are always using sensory for stimulation. So I guess they wanted us to have both(sound and sight)
i have a feeling that mixing was beyond basic and really undermined this guy's work, also the neverending music wasnt helping either.
Never really thought
Greetings from Iceland! I want to correct what you said in the beginning: You CAN hear northern lights on rare occassions. I was once lucky enough to experience those sounds here in Iceland.
So... the reason you watch a nature documentary is to get an artistic interpretation of nature. That's just wrong. I'm an audiophile, so practically all modern shows drive me crazy as EVERYTHING sounds fake.
Uncanny valley applies to sound design, too. The reason I love 80's synthesizers is because they don't pretend to sound like real instruments. 90's synths all tried to mimic real instruments and they sounded "wrong".
I don’t like a lot of modern electronic drum kit sounds (specifically in dance music) for that reason! It just sounds like muted clicks and I don’t understand the point of it.
facts 👍
Wait obviously not all sounds would be recorded for the insects or animal's. For example a lions roar is legit while the music is actually just music like wtf common sense. Webs don't have sounds nor does the aurora at the northern hemisphere. It's just background music and I've never really noticed the music if I'm honest😂😂
Foley artistry has been a secret obsession of mine and I’m also a high school science teacher so this is just...👩🏽🍳💋 PERFECTION
Once you visualize some BBC sound designer with a boom mic splashing water about in his bath tub it's pretty hard to unsee it. The only silver lining is that you now get the opportunity to rain on everyone else's parade when they happen to be watching a nature doc.
Would you want to remove the narration to show all of Richard Hinton’s foley work?
Im not watching documentaries ever again😂😂😂
8:50 if you saw that without knowing the context, you'd think that the guy just really needs to see a specialist
I've always felt the foley sounds on nature docs were super obvious and sometimes cringey.
Oh ffs... we’ve all been duped 🤦♀️😧
Wow I did not know this and this is why I am subscribed to you. To wach videos like this
These people are amazing. They made nature and animal sounds realistic. It really make me believe that those sounds were naturally produced. Kukos!
Come on bro none of those sounds even matched the scene, this was a mid example of foley
Have to admit I have hated added sounds to nature documentaries for years. If you happen to shoot the real sound. Cool. If not. Music and narration please.
I rather not listen to music
@@pinkpenzu I don't mean songs. Instrumental sounds.
7:07 Tony what are you doing there
Very interesting to learn about this kind of work, but why not consult an audio expert during the production of the video? It's frustrating not to hear the final sounds as used in the docs, and only the raw and unconvincing Foley. And why the whimsical music throughout the whole thing?
This was crazy and very cool.
The norther lights one was a really dumb example 😂 who thinks lights sound like high hats
I knew it 😤 I remember having an argument with my parents about the sounds in nature documentaries when I was a kid because I was insistent that they couldn't capture such tiny sounds from so far away and I refused to believe they were up close and personal while a lion was munching on a zebra carcass. Eventually they convinced me I was wrong and now I'm mad again 😂
I know they probably just wanted me to shut up and watch the documentary but they're the ones who told me I was wrong when they didn't know what they were talking about 💅
Macro = up close, telephoto= distance. Surprised they got this wrong in the first 2 minutes?!
Nature documentary are the original asmr
Richard Hinton's Greatest sounds! Now on Amazon!.
love to watch this documentary, Stay tuned.
The background music made is so difficult to hear his noises!! Can someone re edit and re upload? I can’t hear what he’s doing
Imagine how boring nature shows would be without ASMR sounds 😆 it would be like watching a low budget TH-cam doc
*me farting into a mason jar* = a Beluga whale yawning
i had no idea.. wow
I was unaware of this. I thought creatures really make sounds lol 😂
Nice work Rick! Thanks for sharing.
Yass and this is why Foley and Sound Editing getrs awards. I get to do Foley very rarely but love the creativity of it. But i NEVER want to hear anyones'
eye opening again 😂
Hardest thing to foley… being inside a sea of hops in a vat 😂
Umm I definitely think twice when I see the northern lights and hear symbols and wind chimes lol
YOU GOT MACRO LENSES 100% WRONG. Macro lenses are used for shooting very close to an object (inches or fractions of an inch). ZOOM LENSES are for shooting objects which are far away.
Not Zoom lenses, but telephoto lenses. Zoom lenses are just lenses that have a range of focal lengths
@@Wildridefilms -Eh, thank you for that. I must have been tired. However, both can be used. I have a 70 - 300mm lens that I got fantastic footage of a 17 year cicada hatching with. Looks like National Geographic footage.
Playing with your saliva to mimic the sound of an eye... nice
More like completely making it up, instead of mimic.
I'm glad that blinking is completely silent - just imagine your eyes making that sound everytime you blink.
Not y'all acting like you didn't know it wasn't the actual sound-
Some of these things I thought were real😅
The northern lights do have a kinda tuning fork sound if there's no ambient sound around it.
You mean spiders and centipedes don't really roar?
Why would you add music to your video when we’re all here to hear the faintest of sounds?
*_-When your recording the quiet kid and your friend makes ak47 noises-_*
Ever since I was a kid I hated how much repetitive fake noises documentaries had. I'd especially have problems with putting in sounds that physically can't happen. Like, I'm fine with faking the noises made due to not being able to record the natural ones, but can we stop with the reptiles hissing every time they move and horses making the same three sounds when they're running and standing on the hind legs?
Yeah, I would think twice about the northern lights making the sounds of someone fuckin around at a music store.
Pretty impressive if you manage to shoot across a valley with a macro lens 😅
Can't believe even a documentary has fake sounds.
Next up : our reality is actually a simulation
You mean like we're inside a matrix or something? 😉😁
Don't ruin it... Damn wth!
1:14 *telephoto lenses
His studio looks like my room.
For some reason, I expected leather to be used on mushrooms. Honestly, it's a great choice because they have similat textures.
I feel like i was faked out by plant earth
I can’t believe it’s only EQ applied the underwater sound of the whale. Amazing. 😮
Such skill. Marvellous! Foley-enhanced drama much preferred to the ludicrous 40-piece metropolitan orchestra that used to saturate earlier Attenborough documentaries! Occasionally a bit of over-the-top is okay: that huge drumbeat&rumble dubbed onto the surfacing of a sharp-toothed swamp creature had my girlfriend fall off the sofa. Did I laugh!
Fun fact: Auroras DO actually make a sound, rarely auroras make a low humming sound, along with ethereal cracking noises.
it wasn't until 2:36 where I realised he wasn't talking to the camera but inside a call. What else is a lie?
Macro Lens means shooting something across the Valley? And a Telephoto shoots insects on the moon then?