Pot Odds: A Key Concept for Successful Poker Players

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  • @GTOWizard
    @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Did today's video teach you something new about pot odds? Share your thoughts in the comments below! What would you like us to cover in the future?

    • @leoyuan3f
      @leoyuan3f ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A video about exploiting soft player pools would be great. Your videos are awesome I like them all, especially that pot geometry video. But sometimes I struggle to apply the concepts cause I don't know how applicable probe 250% pot turn 250% pot shove river would be to the soft pools I play in.

    • @itsrrraven
      @itsrrraven ปีที่แล้ว +1

      id love a video that shows how to build a balanced limping ramge, (either LFI or overlimping), and when its profitable to implement this into an overall strategy

    • @mzockt
      @mzockt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is awesome material. An important topic precise and on point explained. Compared to other teaching material a time Safer and way better gettable. Well done Wizard Team. Very very good job !

  • @hotshower
    @hotshower ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I’d be curious to see a video of you applying the concepts “in game” vs the gto trainer. Like how we actually decide to construct our range in reality given pot odds and equity realizations and polarization

    • @ebutuoyjg
      @ebutuoyjg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes there is a shortage of good videos showing how to apply poker math realtime during action.

    • @valentinoruiz4440
      @valentinoruiz4440 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ebutuoyjg where

  • @dathangeddes6035
    @dathangeddes6035 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video made me realize I need really need to spend more time on fundamentals like this

  • @Bazzy13
    @Bazzy13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    OMG I FINALLY GET IT
    I struggle so much with maths but this was so clear and understandable, thank you so much
    Just wanted to add a quick edit, I've been trying for weeks to wrap my head around the maths of this but for some reason, this video just made it all click. Not sure why or how but again, thank you

  • @josemariafilho8850
    @josemariafilho8850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The most instructional video I've ever seen about pot odds. Thanks a lot

  • @Shaggi0209
    @Shaggi0209 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great video for containing so much information in so little time.

  • @josephineting8080
    @josephineting8080 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome material, I like the comparison between CO n BTN range and their potential holdings.

  • @cybermonk373
    @cybermonk373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This material is dense for me. I like the length of the video. Keep up the great work!

  • @jesuslovesyou-matts
    @jesuslovesyou-matts ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you do a video on what minimum defense frequency is and why it's important

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good idea!

    • @martinrobins5196
      @martinrobins5196 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/EUm_dgEl9TU/w-d-xo.html

    • @zzxyyxxz4976
      @zzxyyxxz4976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there are already plenty of videos on this. there is one from Qing Yang (who has done videos for gto wizard before) on his channel

  • @ivankyuchekov5432
    @ivankyuchekov5432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THanks again. Much points to discuss. Cheers

  • @leclubber
    @leclubber ปีที่แล้ว +3

    amazing content as usual. Thank you very much. May i ask what the 2-4 rule is?

    • @personalpokertrainer
      @personalpokertrainer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The rule means that we count our outs and multiply X4 on the flop and X2 on the turn to know more or less how likely it is to hit at least one of our outs by the river.
      In this case we have 9 outs on the flop to make a flush. 9 X 4 =36. You will make a flush roughly 36% of the time.
      On the turn you count your outs and multiple by 2. So you will make a flush 9X2= 18% of the time (roughly).

    • @leclubber
      @leclubber ปีที่แล้ว

      @@personalpokertrainer
      Thank you for you input.
      I m still missing smthg though.
      Each out counting for approx. 2.25%, if we have 9 outs twice => 2.25% x 9 x 2 = 40.5% which is far from 36% hence my interrogation

    • @thesneakingninja1
      @thesneakingninja1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leclubber how’d you get that each out counts ~2.25%?

    • @Schindlabua
      @Schindlabua 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have 2 cards in hand, and 3 are the flop. Meaning there are 47 cards left in the deck and drawing any particular card on the turn is 1/47 ≈ 2.127%. If you don't hit it, no problem, you still have 1/46 ≈ 2.174% of drawing it on the river.
      If we simplify both percentages to 2% that's where you get the 2-4 rule from. But we can maths it out "properly".
      You hit your out on the turn? Nice! There was a 1/47 chance of that happening. Whichever card comes next, it will make you happy, so that's a 1/1 ≈ 100% chance of being satisfied with the river.
      You didn't hit your out on the turn? There was a 46/47 chance of that happening, but you still have a 1/46 of drawing your out on the river.
      Your expected out hitting percentage is therefor given as
      1/47 * 1/1 + 46/47 * 1/46 ≈ 4.255%.
      (If you have many outs your chances increase accordingly. With four outs, your 1/47 becomes 4/47 etc. Also notice how the 46es cancel out in the second term :)

  • @Flopwellpoker
    @Flopwellpoker ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the great content

  • @goodfold
    @goodfold ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice Video Thx!~

  • @steveng8727
    @steveng8727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome content, thanks!

  • @NClottery
    @NClottery ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey great video ! But I have a question you say 3chips/new pot first of all what do you mean new pot is it 5.5?or total 8.5 / bye How did you get 26% Thanks cause 3/8.5 =35% maybe Im doing it wrong?

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there, it's 3 / (pot + bet + call), or 3/11.5.
      Required equity = amount to call / pot after you call

    • @Do_the_Dishes
      @Do_the_Dishes ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m with you on that durruber. Left me scratching my head too.

    • @masonmcgahey7
      @masonmcgahey7 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Do_the_Dishes8.5 is in the pot. If you call the pot is 11.5 (to match the 3 he put in). It would be 3/11.5 not 3/8.5.

  • @csquared4538
    @csquared4538 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If someone is miscalculating their required EV by not taking into account the pot + the call (like the 25% vs 33% example), this would mean they're going to always be playing too tight, right? How would you adjust your bet sizes to exploit this?
    Obviously, I don't think anyone who would make that mistake is consistently calculating their required EV anyway, so there are probably plenty of other spots.
    I don't actually play poker, but it's interesting.

  • @amazingcabbage39
    @amazingcabbage39 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question for you personally. How frequently do you mix checks on the flop to balance your checking range?

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That depends on the flop! You can watch this video to learn how to build flop heuristics th-cam.com/video/MbUGqC9wfGs/w-d-xo.html. Also I recommend watching the Mechanics of Cbetting video to learn some of the underlying principles that guide flop cbet sizing and frequency.

  • @4MarkyMark4
    @4MarkyMark4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I honestly rely on pot odds even more than GTO, it’s easy for me to do the math in real time and relate it to my hand strength

  • @zedacapadocia0235
    @zedacapadocia0235 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello.
    At 3:02 the table says that for a bet size of 150%, we need at least 37.5% of equity. But at 7:36 the BTN opens for 2.5bbs in a starting pot of 1.5bbs. Doesn't that mean he's raising 166% of the pot? And we have to call something between 37.5% and 40%. This table only works posflop?

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In an unopened pot you can think of the BB as the previous raiser. After BTN opens 2.5x, the BB's pot odds are 1.5/5.5 = 27.3%, which corresponds to a BTN raise size of 60% pot.

    • @zedacapadocia0235
      @zedacapadocia0235 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GTOWizard Oh, I got it now. Thanks for the answer.

  • @larryhernandez1469
    @larryhernandez1469 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in the first example at time 0:01:31 Shouldn't the pot odds be 35% ?. 3/8.5 = .353 or am I missing something? thanks

    • @louischampion1632
      @louischampion1632 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are betting into a pot of 8.5 so the total pot size would be 11.5 after your bet is placed. So it would be 3/11.5 = 0.26

  • @kaaristotelancien3005
    @kaaristotelancien3005 ปีที่แล้ว

    when we under-realize equity with a hands by calling turn for example, it comes from the fact that vilain can bluff us next street and down our equity with his bottom range ?

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is one reason! Many factors impact how well a hand realizes equity. Mainly - how well can the hand improve into one that can extract a lot of value?
      Learn more about equity realization:
      blog.gtowizard.com/equity-realization/

  • @bartomiejkmita5118
    @bartomiejkmita5118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please more videos like this! :)

  • @raphaelhudon6744
    @raphaelhudon6744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi guys,i would like to know if you can telle me what are the maths behind the table you presented at minute 5:55 ?

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Check out our blog to learn more about the math of poker!
      blog.gtowizard.com/mdf-alpha/
      blog.gtowizard.com/what-are-pot-odds-in-poker/

    • @raphaelhudon6744
      @raphaelhudon6744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GTOWizard And how you calculate the Value construction and bluff construction ?

  • @Shapemyst
    @Shapemyst ปีที่แล้ว

    im sorry if i am stupid, but the 1st calculation (3 : 8,5 = 26%). for me 26% of 8,5 is 2.21 and not 3. what am i doing wrong

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The formulas are detailed in the first 4 minutes of the video.
      To caluclate as a percent use (amount to call)/(pot after you call), = 3/(3+3+5.5) = 26%.
      To calculate as odds use (reward:risk) or 8.5 : 3
      To convert odds to percent, x : y => y / (x+y) = 3 / (8.5 + 3) = 26%

  • @513morris
    @513morris ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👍

  • @bradensmith8170
    @bradensmith8170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah

  • @임준우-q7w
    @임준우-q7w 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    basic

  • @PSPCRemy
    @PSPCRemy ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man this is beginner content !?😵‍💫 how th does anyone calculate all this in seconds at the table 🫠🫠🫠